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|Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 1:44pm On Jan 06|
I keep wondering why almost all religions abuse women and relegate them to the background, almost as if they are some sort of inferior breed of animal. Throughout the bible, women were told to hide themselves for a period during menstruation, stay with husbands who had previously raped them, not speak a word in church and concentrate almost solely on rearing children. Further, women were looked upon as war booty, enslaved, raped and killed. They had no say and no rights.
The catholic church is a major culprit in the abuse of women. Rendering intelligent and fertile women to a dark existence of nun-ship , women were often raped by Priests, babies aborted, money and goods extorted from widows and hideous cover-up of all these crimes using some of the most gruesome methods ever known to man. Women were accused of witchcraft and murdered in horrendous ways.
Evangelical churches are no different. Women are constantly sexually abused, denigrated and silenced in the church. The Lords Chosen turns women into miserable objects while deeper life women dress as though going for a funeral service. It’s always the women who have to behave in certain ways so as not to tempt men into sin. When a pastor screws a young innocent church girl, his wife and the congregation turn on her and totally destroy her reputation while the randy pastor (so many of them ) continues to 'serve god'.
In some sects of Islam, women are covered to such an extent that only eyes are shown. They are hidden in harems and live lives that are totally controlled by the alpha male. He is her lord and master and without him she is nothing. Woe betide her if she decides to leave the faith, she is sought and murdered as a lesson to others who may wish to embark on a similar path.
During my days in deeper life, I always thought that the women looked miserable, unhappy, unkempt , and unfulfilled. Their entire life was monitored and controlled by the church even when seeking for a husband. Imagine been told by some pastor male, that a particular brother you prayed for is not your husband because God told him so - consider the sheer arrogance. I also did not fully understand why women and men were segregated in seating arrangements in those days at Gbagada. Why? Do they not trust their HOLY BRETHREN to remain sexually pure? Communication between male and female was observed, and prolonged conversations were deemed to be suspicious. Beautiful women dressed to hide their beauty and look miserable. They were told to endure abusive marriages and keep praying for deliverance as divorce was never an option. Indeed, many women endured a miserable existence of abuse without saying a word.
I believe that WOMEN need to throw off the shackles of religion just as Africans threw away the shackles of slavery. Women need to awaken, be empowered and be great. They need to respect their husbands but not worship him, they need not tolerate abusive men much longer, they should educate themselves and go and do greater things, they should dress modestly but brightly and look beautiful and happy. They should have a social life outside the confines of the home and they should be seen an co-equal with the man. The man is not GOD, he is a protector and co-provider period.
Things are indeed changing rapidly here in the west and to a certain extent in Africa, but MORE needs to be done to liberate women from the clutches of ILLITERATE, IGNORANT and SUPERSTITIOUS religion, so that they can live fulfilled, happy and contended lives.
MEN HELP YOUR WOMEN
YOUNG GIRLS TAKE NOTE
MARRIED WOMEN BE EMPOWERED
RELIGIOUS BIGOTS BACK OFF
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by OceanmorganTrix: 2:00pm On Jan 06|
It is not religion that relegated them, they relegated themselves.
An African woman's word to a man (friend/boyfriend/husband): I am your responsibility
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by earthsync(f): 2:03pm On Jan 06|
if I begin to talk about misogyny wey I don witness for church ehn e.g I was more than shocked when a minister said women shouldn't go to the gym cause going to the gym she'd have to wear training gear which would expose all the curves of her body hence her indirectly sinning cause probably the gym instructor or anyone on the street might lust on her, like what the actual fuçk, you need to see me then I was cringing my brains out. said it was wrong to go to the gym!!! the guy also said having male friends as a married woman or talking with male guys as long as the husband disapproves of it cause he's jealous is wrong, hence it's a sin to keep male friends cuz of that. they always talk about what the women should and shouldn't do (these things are always weird,) while leaving the men aside
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 2:03pm On Jan 06|
I suspect you failed to comprehend the article , go and read again , this time remove your parochial glasses.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 2:10pm On Jan 06|
Funny thing is , these same ministers are serial adulterers and in many cases paedophiles. Furthermore, it is a proven fact that the way a woman dresses is irrelevant when it comes down to sexual predator behaviour. We see this in ISLAMIC countries where despite the way women dress, rape and sexual abuse is rampant.
In the west where women dress the way they want sexual abuse incidents are very low, whereas in countries where religious dogma is upheld sexual abuse is rampant.
I also think women, need to respect themselves and not allow these so called ministers talk to them anyhow.
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 2:13pm On Jan 06|
There is plenty to criticise in Islam's view of women. Last year, the Observer told the story of a man in Basra who stamped on, suffocated and then stabbed to death his 17-year-old daughter for becoming infatuated with a British soldier. The relationship apparently amounted to a few conversations, but her father learnt she had been seen in public talking to the soldier. When the Observer talked to Abdel-Qader Ali two weeks later, he said: "Death was the least she deserved. I don't regret it. I had the support of all my friends who are fathers, like me, and know what she did was unacceptable to any Muslim that honours his religion
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by OceanmorganTrix: 2:29pm On Jan 06|
I am originally sure you just copied and paste, if not you would have understood my comment above. There are some religious teaching that have relegated women so much, but most women have relegated themselves by themselves with "my responsibilities are now yours" mindset.
Your sins are
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 2:35pm On Jan 06|
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by OceanmorganTrix: 2:37pm On Jan 06|
Thank you for correcting me
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by MuttleyLaff: 2:39pm On Jan 06|
frosbel2:You are always quick to be on the defensive.
Isnt what OceanmorganTrix said true?
That the typical African woman's word to a man (friend/boyfriend/husband) is: I am your responsibility?
You've got blinkers on, it's time you remove it
Dont mind him OceanmorganTrix, look at him playing the role of English teacher
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 2:47pm On Jan 06|
oh look - here comes the RELIGIOUS MALE CHAUVINIST
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by CAPSLOCKED: 3:27pm On Jan 06|
IF IT'S NOT ABOUT ROMANCE AND UNIMPORTANT THINGS ONLY APPEALING TO THEIR FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS, MOST WOMEN WON'T BOTHER ABOUT IT. THERE'S A HIGH CHANCE THEY WON'T BOTHER WITH THIS IMPORTANT INFORMATION YOU PUT UP.
ON THIS FORUM AND OFF IT I'VE SPENT QUALITY TIME TRYING TO ERADICATE RELIGION IN ALL THE LITTLE WAYS I CAN, AND FREE PARTICULARLY WOMEN FROM THE SHACKLES OF THIS SYSTEM THAT ADDS NOTHING TO THEIR LIVES APART FROM RIDICULE, TORTURE, AGONY, INJUSTICE AND OTHER INDESCRIBABLE UNPLEASANT EXPERIENCES...
ONE THING I'VE LEARNT SO FAR IS THAT MOST WOMEN DON'T CARE AND WILL HARDLY GIVE SECOND THOUGHTS A CHANCE.
I'M TEMPTED TO SAY THEY DESERVE ALL THEY'VE BEEN GETTING, PARTICULARLY ALL THE BAD UNFAIR TREATMENTS.
BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE VERY UNFORTUNATE ONES BORN IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WITH ALMOST NO OPTIONS OF HAVING BETTER AND DIFFERENT LIVES, I WISH THE OPPRESSION THEY FACE COMES TO AN END.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by Dantedasz: 4:17pm On Jan 06|
Religion generally is SEXIST and discriminatory towards women. The fact and brutal truth is women have refused to read the Bible. They mostly rely on what their pastors tell them. The pastors on their part cherry pick what to tell them and the women believe.
Women need to educate themselves and read what the Bible says. In my opinion NO woman can read the Bible and remain a Christian unless she is a dummy. The Bible is the most SEXIST book ever written and completely AGAINST women.
It is all there in the religious book of the Christians and no woman stands a chance of being free if she adheres to the contents.
If I am challenged I can provide enough passages that completely relegate women to second class beings.
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 4:17pm On Jan 06|
To a certain extent you are right. Unfortunately many people are gullible and they need our help coupled with patience to be free from their religious delusions. In many cases, , a lot of our women are in a Stockholm Syndrome situation and others are afraid to break from the status quo due to cultural reasons.
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by Alepa(m): 4:20pm On Jan 06|
I have no pity for women
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 4:22pm On Jan 06|
of course you won't - you are still a primitive man
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by Alepa(m): 4:23pm On Jan 06|
frosbel2:Wail to death . O ye woman
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 4:24pm On Jan 06|
I am a MAN , a MODERN MAN
Mumu to you Sir
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by CAPSLOCKED: 4:28pm On Jan 06|
I THINK IN MANY CASES OUR YOUNG WOMEN ARE RELIGIOUS JUST BECAUSE THEY WERE RAISED IN RELIGIOUS HOMES, AND HAVE HARDLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE RELIGION THEY PRACTICE.
SAME BUNCH THAT DON'T READ THE BIBLE NOR OBEY ANY LAWS OF GOD, AND "SIN" WITHOUT CONTROL ARE SAME ONES THAT DESPISE ME FOR NOT ENGAGING IN THEIR CARICATURE AND MOCKERY OF THE HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.
FOR MOST YOUNG WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY THERE'S NOTHING LIKE CULTURAL REASONS HOLDING THEM BACK.
THEY'RE TIED DOWN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO "THINK" OR FIND REASONS TO RELATE WITH ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T SOOTHE THEIR PETTY AND EMOTIONAL NATURE.
I QUOTE THAT ANYONE WHO REASONS RELIGION CRITICALLY WITHOUT BIAS AND EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT IS CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING IT FOR WHAT IT TRULY IS --- ABSOLUTE NONSENSE.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 4:28pm On Jan 06|
Key statement - Dependent on Pastors / This is the MAIN SHACKLE that needs to be broken.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by Dantedasz: 4:53pm On Jan 06|
Some passages from the Christian Bible-
1.Judges chapter 11.
2.Revelation Chapter 14.v3-4.
3.Leviticus chapter 31.v19-31.
4.Exodus chapter 21.v28-29.
5.Leviticus chapter 19.v20
6.Leviticus chapter 12.v2-5.
7.Genesis chapter 19.v8
8.Genesis chapter 3.v16.
9.Exodus chapter 21.v7-8.
10.Deuteronomy chapter 21.v11-14.
11.Deuteronomy chapter 22.v5.
12.1st Timothy chapter 2.v12.
13.Colossians chapter 3.v18.
14.1st Corinthians chapter 14.v34-35.
15.1st Corinthians chapter 11.v13-16.
16.1st Corinthians chapter 11.v3-10.
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 4:58pm On Jan 06|
Funny how all these verses made absolute sense to me in the days of my religious indoctrination. Brainwashing is a terrible thing.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by CAPSLOCKED: 5:10pm On Jan 06|
"AS LONG AS IT'S IN THE BIBLE, IT'S THE TRUE WORD OF GOD". WHEN I HEAR RELIGIOUS PEOPLE MAKE THIS CLAIM I CONCLUDE IT'S EITHER THEY'RE IGNORANT OR HAVE NO BRAIN.
THERE ARE PEOPLE (MOSTLY MEN) WHO JUSTIFY THE TERRIBLE ACTS OF TERRORISM BY YAHWEH IN THE OLD TESTAMENT , AND THE ABSURD INACCURACIES IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, THE SAME WAY OTHER MEN IN INDIA AND SAUDI JUSTIFY THE DEGRADATION, MOLESTATION, AND EXECUTION OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN FOR NO JUST CAUSE.
JUST LIKE CHRISTOPHER HITCHENS DID I PUT THIS QUESTION TO RELIGIOUS PEOPLE
"TO TERRIFY CHILDREN WITH THE IMAGE OF HELL, TO CONSIDER WOMEN AN INFERIOR CREATION—IS THAT GOOD FOR THE WORLD?"
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by janettee: 5:23pm On Jan 06|
If I could like this post a thousand times. Well written and I agree with you.
It's always laughable when some feminists describe themselves as 'christain feminists'. I mean why align yourself with a religion that doesn't give a fvck about your gender?. I've also seen some of them claiming god is a woman which is the funniest part ..
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by janettee: 5:33pm On Jan 06|
Let me also add that religious women are really gullible especially their Nigerian counterparts. I mean, have you tried to have conversations with them?. They are irredeemable.
People who believe their pastors/priests more than anybody/anything in this world.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by CAPSLOCKED: 5:36pm On Jan 06|
JUST HERE WONDERING HOW YOU'VE MANAGED TO SEE WHAT MILLIONS HAVE FAILED TO SEE.
RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE JUST SPECIAL.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by janettee: 5:38pm On Jan 06|
It's not that hard. I've been around religious women or rather I'm still around them so yea.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 5:49pm On Jan 06|
What you just stated is a fact.
I actually stopped my wife from going to Christ Embassy to listen to all that gibberish and 'witness' all the fake miracles involved. My sons went once and vowed never to go again ( they were only little then and yet knew it was bullsh1t ). Thankfully she has stopped going and is of a sounder mind that when she was at church. Her church and many others in the UK are made up of 80% of women and 20% of men, that says a lot.
The key thing in these churches ( of course, I would know after two decades of attendance ) , is that they programme their members and herd them like cattle into obedience. Those who want to leave are threatened, shamed or ostracised and those who know too much are kicked out with their reputation in tatters.
These people are not Christ like ( if there is such a thing ). They are the real heathen, totally immersed in myth and fable and unable to think outside the context of the 'inerrant' bible ( haha ).
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by MuttleyLaff: 8:40pm On Jan 06|
frosbel2:frosbel2, where and when have you ever seen or read me supporting or promoting religious male chauvinism?
I think I know what the problem is. frosbel2 when is your birthday?
I need to put dictionary down as your birthday gift so you can go look up the meaning of religious male chauvinist
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by peterphd(m): 11:05pm On Jan 06|
This won't work bro. Women feel generally and not think. There are exceptions but we're talking about the rule here. Women will always flock to religion.
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|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by frosbel2(m): 11:36pm On Jan 06|
I think the educated ones are wising up. The main issue is with the 'illiterate women' or those who have not been exposed to social media.
There is hope.
|Re: Women Need To Throw Away The Shackles Of Religion by sassysure: 6:38am On Jan 07|
There are thousands, no, millions of women smarter than their husbands but religion dumbed and numbed them.
While religion still thrive in Nigeria isn't because men loves it, it's simply an avenue given to them to control women freely.
They are so quick to quote that you submit to them according to the holy book thereby emotionally draining them cos of the fear of hell.
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