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Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jan 09, 2019
hypertension:


Here are the laws of moses to the jews

the Ten Commandments

Moral laws - on murder, theft, honesty, adultery, etc.

Social laws - on property, inheritance, marriage and divorce,

Food laws - on what is clean and unclean, on cooking and storing food.


Purity laws - on menstruation, seminal emissions, skin disease and mildew, etc.

Feasts - the Day of Atonement, Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Weeks etc.

Sacrifices and offerings - the sin offering, burnt offering, whole offering, heave offering, Passover sacrifice, meal offering, wave offering, peace offering, drink offering, thank offering, dough offering, incense offering, red heifer, scapegoat, first fruits, etc.
Instructions for the priesthood and the high priest including tithes.

Instructions regarding the Tabernacle, and which were later applied to the Temple in Jerusalem, including those concerning the Holy of Holies containing the Ark of the Covenant (in which were the tablets of the law, Aaron's rod, the manna). Instructions and for the construction of various altars.

Forward looking instructions for time when Israel would demand a king.

We all dont do these things again..yet we still tithe according to the law.

Please just think and reason.
The bolded say they shouldn't, are we obeying them now or we are doing those laws listed?
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by Nobody: 6:58pm On Jan 09, 2019
adelee777:

You can break any of the ten commandments if you can identify any of them that is against love. I always wonder how Nigerian "Christians" are programmed. He said love has fulfilled all the law, you are asking if you could then break the law. Smh.
Which means if you claim to love God you must tithe. You can't love God and not keep his commands
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by hypertension(m): 7:29pm On Jan 09, 2019
asuustrike1:

The bolded say they shouldn't, are we obeying them now or we are doing those laws listed?

The rest?? grin grin grin
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by Nobody: 9:54pm On Jan 09, 2019
hypertension:


Here are the laws of moses to the jews

the Ten Commandments

Moral laws - on murder, theft, honesty, adultery, etc.

Social laws - on property, inheritance, marriage and divorce,


Food laws - on what is clean and unclean, on cooking and storing food.

Purity laws - on menstruation, seminal emissions, skin disease and mildew, etc.

Feasts - the Day of Atonement, Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Weeks etc.

Sacrifices and offerings - the sin offering, burnt offering, whole offering, heave offering, Passover sacrifice, meal offering, wave offering, peace offering, drink offering, thank offering, dough offering, incense offering, red heifer, scapegoat, first fruits, etc.
Instructions for the priesthood and the high priest including tithes.

Instructions regarding the Tabernacle, and which were later applied to the Temple in Jerusalem, including those concerning the Holy of Holies containing the Ark of the Covenant (in which were the tablets of the law, Aaron's rod, the manna). Instructions and for the construction of various altars.

Forward looking instructions for time when Israel would demand a king.

We all dont do these things again..yet we still tithe according to the law.

Please just think and reason.
Do you keep those laws at the bolded?
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by Goshen360(m): 11:36pm On Jan 09, 2019
GoodMuyis:
Tithing Predate the law, it's a Kingdom Practice. That men abuse it does not mean it should be annulled. Even the then sacrifice was abused by the priest then.

Animal sacrifices and burnt offering predated the law also, DO YOU STILL PRACTICE THOSE? Why do we single out tithe only and argue it predated the law? Think for your in the word if you have been told a lie or not
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by hypertension(m): 4:40am On Jan 10, 2019
Goshen360:


Animal sacrifices and burnt offering predated the law also, DO YOU STILL PRACTICE THOSE? Why do we single out tithe only and argue it predated the law? Think for your in the word if you have been told a lie or not

Thanks so much...u r wise bro.

May God bless u.
Re: Why It Is Wrong For Christains To Pay Tithes by hypertension(m): 8:58am On Jan 13, 2019
hypertension:
Hi..please if u already came here to attack me, please dont read.

If u also came here without an open mind, it will be difficult for u to break out from your pastor's Doctrine

Im not a pastor, but a medical doctor (Here is my blog https://www.medplux.com)

Im only shocked that, within a week i started reading the bible intensively, i saw God's purpose firsthand. Its shocking i have been hearing false doctrines for years.


Now, lets start from the basics of tithes (i will be as concise as possible)


Tithing was first established in the old testament far before Moses through Abraham

He (Abraham) paid Mechedezek 10 percent of all he had once after the war. Gen 14:18-20


Then after, the children of isreal were instructed (as a law) to pay tithes to the Levi priesthood tribe of isreal.

Only these tribe, of the 12 tribes of isreal, can become High preist and collect tithes. Deut 12: 5-11, Deut 14 : 22 - 29, Leveticus 27: 30 - 34

Was tithe mentioned later in the bible?

Yes ofcourse. In malachi 3: 10 - 15

That the Jews of old should bring in their tithes to the storehouse of God

Did Christ mention tithe?

Yes he did.

He said

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former"

Christ encouraged the Jews to pay their tithes and also not neglect the most important part of the scriptures - justice and faith

So, before the death of christ, he encoraged the jew to live according to the law

Did christ mention tithe again?

He did!!

The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

What next?

Jesus christ died on the cross and sent forth the apostles to preach the word of God to the jews.

Then Came Paul.

Who is paul?

Paul is a jew (Jewish name saul), unbeliever, and persecutor of Early day christains.

Then jesus revealed himself to him, made him blind and shew him mercy.

What is paul's mission?

To preach the Gospel of Christ to the Gentiles

The Gentile are christain that were not legally bonded to abrahams promise. They are non jews

This means every Nigerian before christ were gentiles.

But were only allowed to partake of Abrahams promise after Christ's Death. Gal 3;14

So, what was paul's preaching?

That the Jews and Non-jews can inherit the kingdom of God simply by Faith (believing in Christ)

"For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Gal 3: 27, 28

What also?

That a christ follower is no-longer justified by the works of the law (the moses laws and tithing included) But only through faith

"know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[a] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified"

Why did paul say this?

Peter, an apostle of Christ, visted paul and was eating with gentiles (uncircumcised followers of Christ).

Immediately some jew arrived he quickly withdrew himself not to be seen by the "born jews"

For in those days, its required that u must be circumcised.

Then paul rebuked him, saying that

know that a person is not justified by the works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in[a] Christ and not by the works of the law, because by the works of the law no one will be justified. Gal 2:16

Did paul conderm the law further?

Yes he did

He told the jews that if its compulsory to be circumcised then then they must keep the whole law (please read Deut 14)

"Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law."

Galatian 5:3
In fact, he continued and said christ death is meaningless to you if u continue in the law

"Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."

Gal 5:4

So was the law useless then?

Before the coming of Christ the law was meant to bring the jews closer to Christ and then nolonger important (Gal 3:26 -26)

"Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed. So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith."

Is there any part of the new testament that paul mentioned tithe?

Yes, Paul himself mentioned tithe in the new testament when writing to the Hebrews

Hebrews 7: 5

And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

What was Paul talking about?

(before anyone deceives u, please read though verse 1 - 28)

This chapter completely shows u the law (including tithing) is useless and weak and has been replaced by a new covenant which is Jesus christ.

So if no tithes, how then would they pastors eat

Gal 6:6

" Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor."

How then can u inherit God's Kingdom..

Simply by living in the spirit through faith and avoiding things of the flesh.

"Because christ death has ended the curse of the law
Yet the law is not of faith, but “the man who does them shall live by them.

Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”),"Gal 3: 12, 13

So, its so simple. walk in the spirit and Get eternal life..

How?

Gal 5: 22 23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law



[b]Finally brethren, [/b]Dont be deceived. Paul said this himself
Gal 4: 14,15

"Then we will no longer be immature like children. We won’t be tossed and blown about by every wind of new teaching. We will not be influenced when people try to trick us with lies so clever they sound like the truth. Instead, we will speak the truth in love, growing in every way more and more like Christ, who is the head of his body, the church."

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