jiddama:


They lack consensus because the entire "Brexit ideology" was concieved, birthed and campaigned to the masses based on lies and half truths....I could still remember vividly the day in 2016 when the referendum was passed, brexiteers won but they were confused a very scattered herd it seems their uniting factors were greed and hate . People are seeing the bigger picture.

And I think it's hypocritical of UK to keep demanding brexit and not give Scotland, northern Ireland and the others a chance to break away, they won't even entertain the thought....

Lizzysamuel:
Watch The Moment Theresa May was defeated in the house of Commons HERE

jiddama:



Brexit patriotic

Let me ask you, does it appeal to ethics and common sense that UK goes into an agreement with other European nations for decades enjoying the benefits of a single market , research and development , advancement in academia etc and contributing its qouta along with other partners according to economic strength , suddenly want to leave because they (as claimed by some politicians are sponsoring the union ,subsequently) are tired of contributing their qouta but still want to enjoy( soft brexit/ deal) all the goodies that came with the deal, they don't want a hard brexit( no deal) because they know it is tantamount to shooting themselves in the foot.

Brexit will bring down per capita income, cause inflation and essentially alienate UK from its neighbors and that's what is resonating with the MPs right now.

A referendum that was won by a slight margin (51.9%) and is opposed at every turn by a growing number.

If it was about sovereignty why would May lose by a margin of 230...in a voting session by members of parliament that are elected to protect those very interest?

Brexit was never sold honestly, all indicators where there when people started recognizing the possible implications, triggering article 50 was received with mix feelings.

I simply reiterated a fact that most people that care to look at the bigger picture stated:

THIS ISSUE IS MORE THAN UK LEAVING EU, IT'S A WAVE OF DIVISIVE, SELF CENTERED POLITICAL IDEOLOGY ACROSS THE GLOBE WHOSE MEMBERS UPON FINDING THEMSELVES IN CORRIDORS OF POWER, TAKE ACTIONS THAT GO AGAINST THE VERY PRINCIPLES AND VALUES OF WHICH HUMAN COEXISTENCE DEPENDS,IF LEFT UNCHECKED, IT WILL DESTROY THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF OUR CIVILIZATION.

WE ALL NEED EACH OTHER, POLITICS OFISOLATION EITHER BY PEN(BREXIT) OR BY BRICK AND MORTAR ( TRUMP'S PROPOSED WALL) IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS, THE SOONER WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND TRULY UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM , THE SOONER WE FIX IT.

Lastly, i implore you totry to attain a level of maturity that will enable you to have a polite discourse with people without trying to attack their personality. If you find that unattainable kindly get off my mention.

Ibcrown:
UK perlimament get sense! Wait na this woman atiku wan dey make deal with? Hell NO. We won't enslave ourself to the Britain again! Bubu till 2023

tony9k:


It is not as easy as that. The challenge is that the Brexit equation is now firmly in the House if Commons and there doesn't appear to be a majority for any of the options. The Labour Party would vote down any agreement as they would like to use it to force a general election. Is it not ironical that the rebels in the conservative who voted against the bill were both brexitiers and remainers. The brexities felt the proposal was not 'hard' enough while the remainers felt it was not 'soft' enough. Recall that ab initio most of the MPs were against Brexit. The situation is compounded by the arrogance of the EU creating the impression that the UK needs the EU more than the EU needs the UK. Maybe this crushing defeat will make the EU have a re-think. Finally if Theresa May had followed Trump's suggestion any emergent deal would have been similarly voted out.

ponziponzi:


I doubt if the UK can get a better deal than what they voted on. The biggest challenge of Theresa May's deal was the Northern Ireland backstop, I don't think the EU will change their position on that and it will even be a violation of the good Friday agreement. Like every divorce, it will be messy, even the British PM cannot come to consensus on what a good deal should look like.

ponziponzi:

You can't eat your cake and have it.

ponziponzi:

You can't eat your cake and have it.

chiedozie198100:
i always knew UK was not going anywhere.

u think say ee dey easy to divorce from marriage with benefits?

that's why Biafra to me is kinda waste of time.

too much intermingling and interdependence that if you exit, the consequences economically may destroy you forever.

Judefixedodd404:
See below

tzoracle:



true brits ?

Northern Ireland would protest vehemently against a no deal brexit and already the scots are threatening fire and igniting old tensions in the north, police in Northern Ireland are now free to shoot rubber bullets to dispel violent protests. Major business owners who are English are against it, the young people are against it. Problem is the young ones thought it irrelevant and decided to sit out the vote, I just hope Nigerian youths can take a cue from their mistake

Richdad50:
If Brexit must happen, then it must be a hard Brexit. A total exit from Europe. Theresa wanted a Brexit that puts UK in the hands of bureaucratic Europe.
Britain must take its future now or forever be slaves to globalists and migration hawks. She never listened to Trump's advice on Brexit and now she is going to pay with her political future. Good riddance.

#Richdad

KingOfAllIgbos:


Thank you very much for telling the honest and bitter truth.

Even if Biafra breaks away, they are connected to Nigeria ...landlocked and they would be at the mercy of Nigeria.

A nation of mostly businessmen and entrepreneurs....how will they sell to themselves when they become foreigners and are heavily taxed on Nigerian soil?

KingOfAllIgbos:


Thank you very much for telling the honest and bitter truth.

Even if Biafra breaks away, they are connected to Nigeria ...landlocked and they would be at the mercy of Nigeria.

A nation of mostly businessmen and entrepreneurs....how will they sell to themselves when they become foreigners and are heavily taxed on Nigerian soil?

KratosCorp:
You started the attack when you made false statements about Brexit. And that your childish shade down there is not a valid argument. In any case, here are some points to note

1) When the EU was formed it was sold to the European national governments and people as an economic union and a beacon of peace. But what has it become today? A mega bureaucracy of an unelected globalist government actively, albeit subtly, usurping the sovereignties of its member states. In fact, the rise of Trump has forced some them to openly start voicing the need to get all the European national governments to effectively handover to Brussels whatever remains of their national sovereignty. The Brits saw this, and it's in their best interest (and they have every right) to leave the Union.


2) The cause of the seeming rise in global crisis is not the quest for nationalism. On the contrary, the root cause of the issue is the fake and forced idea of unity which folks like you tend to so audaciously propagate. Yes, we are all human begins. But we are also very unique from each other. You create problems when you deny our uniqueness and then go ahead to try to force others to do the same. That's why multiculturalism or anti nation States is such a bad idea. The true proof of freedom is the liberty to say 'NO" without fear or shame. But are you not surprised that you are offended by the fact that the Brits chose to say no to the EU? Yet you'd be the first to lecture everyone about liberty and tolerance. That's hypocritical.

3) The vote that just happened was not about Brexit, but about the horrible deal which May brought to the table. Brexiters hate the deal. Many of them want a hard exit. In fact, Farage told May (and the EU hacks) a few weeks back that this deal was so bad that he's over-sure that it would not pass the Parliament. But I guess you were not paying attention.


4) Wake up. Hard Brexit will be a major tipping point to the liberation of Europe. It will bring liberty, security and (at the long run) major prosperity to the Brits. So, quit repeating the stale old lies that folks like you peddled during the exit campaign. It's been ages now since the Brexiters won, yet the economy is yet to crash. So, please, kindly save us your dooms day annunciation. Freedom is better.

jiddama:


They lack consensus because the entire "Brexit ideology" was concieved, birthed and campaigned to the masses based on lies and half truths....I could still remember vividly the day in 2016 when the referendum was passed, brexiteers won but they were confused a very scattered herd it seems their uniting factors were greed and hate . People are seeing the bigger picture.

And I think it's hypocritical of UK to keep demanding brexit and not give Scotland, northern Ireland and the others a chance to break away, they won't even entertain the thought....

chiedozie198100:


just to sidetrack ur comment, you see why a leader (prime minister or president) must talk to the people?

here in Nigeria, some fools are boldly saying that it is not by force for Buhari to talk to Nigerians.

in saner climes where democracy is taken seriously, one careless statement can practically bring down ur government.

we should begin to demand more from our leaders. not just to foolishly show our fingers (4+4) in blind and senseless solidarity.

VULCAN:
[s]Who is this pretend Igbo man? Are you not a Tinubu/Buhari/APC worshipper hiding under the cover of being Igbo.

You use the term break away like a teenager who runs away from home. When a nation not a country mind you, decides that it can no longer remain under the yoke of another, it has every right to negotiate a peaceful separation.

I won't bother to list the numerous countries that "broke away" and are doing very well now. They are just too damn many and something tells me you have little knowledge of history or even current affairs and that's why you imply that land locked nations are poor while only those with sea ports are rich. Although Onitsha will be made a seaport so your point is moot. And if the Niger Delta with more than enough access to the sea breaks away they will work better with the Igbo man than the Hausa and Yoruba have done so far.

Nigeria that has seaports how far with the riches?

And as for your last point. The Indians, Lebanese and Chinese that are doing business in every corner of this country are not complaining to you about being over taxed so why are you taking panadol for another's potential headache. Let Nigeria tax Biafra's 50% yet they will still make it.

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tony9k:


It is not as easy as that. The challenge is that the Brexit equation is now firmly in the House if Commons and there doesn't appear to be a majority for any of the options. The Labour Party would vote down any agreement as they would like to use it to force a general election. Is it not ironical that the rebels in the conservative who voted against the bill were both brexitiers and remainers. The brexities felt the proposal was not 'hard' enough while the remainers felt it was not 'soft' enough. Recall that ab initio most of the MPs were against Brexit. The situation is compounded by the arrogance of the EU creating the impression that the UK needs the EU more than the EU needs the UK. Maybe this crushing defeat will make the EU have a re-think. Finally if Theresa May had followed Trump's suggestion any emergent deal would have been similarly voted out.

SachaBastien:
For those who do not understand. MPs voting against May's Brexit deal does not mean Brexit is dead. It means The United Kingdom is heading for a hard Brexit come March 2019.

Richdad50:
If Brexit must happen, then it must be a hard Brexit. A total exit from Europe. Theresa wanted a Brexit that puts UK in the hands of bureaucratic Europe.
Britain must take its future now or forever be slaves to globalists and migration hawks. She never listened to Trump's advice on Brexit and now she is going to pay with her political future. Good riddance.

#Richdad

Saintzykie:
Really impressed with your analysis

Tehila07:


Strong women full nairaland o... See super comments! By their grammar, perceptions thou shall know them.

chiedozie198100:
i always knew UK was not going anywhere.

u think say ee dey easy to divorce from marriage with benefits?

that's why Biafra to me is kinda waste of time.

too much intermingling and interdependence that if you exit, the consequences economically may destroy you forever.

jiddama:



opinions becomes childish when it doesn't sit well with you...




Then the structure of commonwealth should be renegotiated... Let's all be mad together and allow Murphy's law to apply.

2- Nobody discourages uniqueness, in fact it is foundation of our diversity, denying it is tantamount to denying human nature. You refuse to see the bigger picture, the rise of trump and brexit is a poor response to the change in the dynamics of power.The unscrupulous politicians know that power is gradually moving to the east. Rather than find solutions to counter balance it, they are retreating into themselves. Don't you find it ironic that China is building bridges and US and UK are trying to build walls.