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I made a thread titled "God is like a little child", and all hell broke loose, as some Christians on this platform who appeared to be so sure of themselves were so filled with fury and rage, as they viewed that thread title as demeaning and insulting to their most revered God.
And here are just a select few of their said reactions:
No be small thing oh as they were sounding so serious like true warriors united, genuinely fighting for their God's interest.
But as far the allegation leveled against me go, of calling God a child, it was absolutely unfounded, as I never said that but that God was like a little child and I yet stand completely unshaken in that view because i know very well what i'm talking about.
So if we are indeed serving the same God, how come my view concerning God is so at odds with that of such ones?
Well you would soon find out because if you happen to ask those same ones who their God is, the chances are that they would immediately say Jesus, as many christian view Jesus as their God, and not just in terms of the God the Son, but God the Father and the almighty.
So if that actually be the case, that would mean that God is not just like a little child, but that God was actually once a little child, even the same God they claim to serve which is Jesus.
For Jesus their God was once a baby, before He grew up and became the adult that He was, when He then did all the things that made them love and adore Him so much, and worship Him.
So I would like all those who were felt it was an insult to assume that God was like a little child, to let us know if they were here on Earth when their God, Jesus, was actually a little child of only a few days old, wrapped in swaddling clothes(the days equivalent of diapers/pampers shout out to Hahn), and lay lowly in a manger meant for cattle feed, etc., if they would have still thought He deserved their worship, and hence fallen down on their faces and worshipped Him?
Continue reading below.
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Ain't it already obvious from their furious reactions to the thread title "God is like a little child", that they wouldn't have, because they would have been ashamed of their God not just being like a baby, but actually being a baby of a few days old, as they only have an image of God which is in heaven that is big, big and big again, and all powerful, and glorious and majestic etc. And also that which was on earth as an adult in Jesus who was great and mighty both in Word and in Works.
But certainly not a few days old baby, wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger, and crying "yia, yia", and sucking breast milk, and need I go on to with the continuation of my intentional irritation and deliberate provocation of such ones from my previous thread, titled "God is like a little child"?
But thank God not all His worshippers are as such ones, for there are yet those adults that would not be ashamed of their God being a baby of only a few days old as it was said:
Matthew 2:1-11 (KJV)
Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem...
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
Now I had to emboldened the fact that they were not just men but "wisdom is justified of her children" men who came all the way from the far east to worship their baby God, for they knew better that one should not be ashamed of his own God even when He's is yet a baby, for it didn't make Him any less of the God that He was, hence their falling down and worship their baby God once they saw Him.
Need I say what I would have also done same had I been there?
Because for me to dare bring up a thread that said that God is like a little child, I certainly knew better as the wise men from the east and these instances from that thread titled "God is like a little child" proves exactly my point:
And you know what? We are not alone in that respect for heaven is also with us as was depicted by the reaction of heavenly host to the birth of the baby God:
Luke 2:8-14 (KJV)
And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
So from heavenly hosts it's also much respect, adoration, love and worship for God, despite that He was just a little baby, and probably minutes or hours old at the time.
Therefore God is not just like a little child but also was once a little child when He humbled Himself and came to us humans in the human form, for Jesus was first a baby before He grew up to become the adult that is much easier to love, adore and worship.
So again I ask the question, would you have fallen down and worshipped a baby God?
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Their baby god was born & breastfed by a woman ( mother of god) & kept in a manger.
Their fake doctrine removed their sense.
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Janosky:Jesus is God the Son/Word of God to me, and I would have proudly/humbly fallen on my face and worshipped Him even when He was yet only seconds/minutes/hours old.
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Say the truth
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When people are ashamed of their baby God, Jesus because He was not yet an adult, but just a little child.
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Not even one of them gree show up
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They don't like this question oh
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None of of them yet.
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. LEVITICUS 24:10-16.
10. And the son of an Israelitish woman,
whose father was an Egyptian,
went out among the Children of Israel:
and this son of the Israelitish woman
and a man of Israel
strove together in the camp;
11. And the Israelitish woman's son
blasphemed The Name of The Lord,
And they brought him unto Moses:
[and his mother's name was Shelomith,
the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan:]
12. And they put him in ward,
that the mind of The LORD might be shewed them.
13. And The LORD Spake unto Moses,
14. "Bring forth him that hath cursed
without the camp;
and let all that heard him
lay their hands upon his head,
and let all the Congregation stone him.
15. "And thou shalt speak
unto the Children of Israel,
'WHOSOEVER CURSETH HIS GOD
SHALL BEAR HIS SIN.
16. 'AND HE THAT BLASPHEMETH
THE NAME OF THE LORD,
HE SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH,
AND ALL THE CONGREGATION
SHALL CERTAINLY STONE HIM:
AS WELL THE STRANGER,
AS HE THAT IS BORN IN THE LAND,
WHEN HE BLASPHEMETH
THE NAME OF THE LORD,
SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH.' "
It is a very serious offense to talk loosely about GOD.
. MATTHEW 5:21-22.
21. "Ye have heard that it was said
of them of Old Time,
'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;'
'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:'
22. "But I Say unto you,
'THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY
WITH HIS BROTHER
WITHOUT A CAUSE
SHALL BE IN DANGER
OF THE JUDGMENT:'
and whosoever shall say
to his brother, 'Raca,'
shall be in danger of the Council:
but whosoever shall say, 'Thou fool,'
shall be in danger of Hell Fire. "
THE PHARISEES HAD A SIMILAR DOCTRINE TO WHAT YOU ARE ESPOUSING:
. MATTHEW 23:15-22.
15. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him
twofold more the Child of Hell
16. "Woe unto you,
ye blind guides,
'WHOSOEVER SHALL SWEAR BY THE TEMPLE,
IT IS NOTHING;
BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SWEAR
BY THE GOLD OF THE TEMPLE,
HE IS A DEBTOR!'
17. "Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater,
the Gold, or The Temple that sanctifieth the Gold?"
‘WHOSOEVER SHALL SWEAR
BY THE ALTAR,
IT IS NOTHING;
BUT WHOSOEVER SWEARETH
BY THE GIFT
THAT IS UPON IT,
HE IS GUILTY.’
19. “Ye fools and blind:
for whether is greater,
the gift, or the Altar
that sanctifieth the gift?
20. “Whoso therefore shall swear by the Altar,
sweareth by It,
and by all things thereon.
21 And whoso shall swear by the Temple,
sweareth by it, and by Him
that dwelleth therein.
22. “And he that shall swear by Heaven,
sweareth by the Throne of God,
and by Him that sitteth thereon.”
THE UNSCRUPULOUS JEWS WOULD SWEAR HYPOCRITICAL OATHS:
"I SWEAR BY THE ALTAR!"
"I SWEAR BY THE TEMPLE!"
"I SWEAR BY HEAVEN!"
Then, when they were put on Trial for breaking those oaths, the Pharisees would rule that those oaths were not binding, because they swore by the Altar, but not by a SACRIFICE on the Altar; they swore by The TEMPLE, but not by THE GOLD of The Temple; they swore by HEAVEN, but not by The Throne of God.
Lord Yeshua decreed those excuse to be rubbish.
Therefore, similarly, you cannot deny having BLASPHEMED GOD, in saying that HE, The CREATOR, WISEST, MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE, and MOST POWERFUL is "LIKE A LITTLE CHILD- BUT NOT A LITTLE CHILD!"
THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE AN INFERIOR SERVANT OF GOD, WHO HAS BEEN EXPELLED FROM HIS SERVICE.
. MATTHEW 5:16-20.
16. “Let your light so shine before men,
that they may see your good works,
and glorify your Father Which is in Heaven.
17. "Think not that I am come
to destroy The Law, or The Prophets:
I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18. "For verily I Say unto you,
'TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS,
ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE
SHALL IN NO WISE
PASS FROM THE LAW,
TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'
19. "Whosoever therefore shall break one
of these least Commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called The Least
in The Kingdom of Heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called Great
in The Kingdom of Heaven.
20. "For I Say unto you,
'THAT EXCEPT YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
SHALL EXCEED THE RIGHTEOUSNESS
OF THE SCRIBES AND PHARISEES,
YE SHALL IN NO CASE ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' "
. LUKE 16:1-15.
AND he Said also
unto his Disciples,
"There was a certain rich man,
which had a steward;
and the same
was accused unto him
that he had wasted
2. "And he called him,
and said unto him,
'HOW IS IT
THAT I HEAR THIS
GIVE AN ACCOUNT
OF THY STEWARDSHIP;
FOR THOU MAYEST BE
NO LONGER STEWARD.'
3. "Then the steward said
'WHAT SHALL I DO?
FOR MY LORD
TAKETH AWAY FROM ME
I CANNOT DIG;
I AM ASHAMED.
4. 'I AM RESOLVED
WHAT TO DO,
THAT, WHEN I AM
PUT OUT OF
THEY MAY RECEIVE ME
INTO THEIR HOUSES.'
5. "So he called every one
of his lord's debtors
and said unto the first,
'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU
UNTO MY LORD?'
6. "And he said,
'AN HUNDRED MEASURES
And he said unto him,
'TAKE THY BILL,
AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY,
AND WRITE FIFTY.'
7. "Then said he to another,
'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?'
And he said,
'AN HUNDRED MEASURES
And he said unto him,
'TAKE THY BILL,
AND WRITE FOURSCORE.'
8. "And the lord commended
the Unjust Steward,
because he had done wisely:
for the Children of this World
are in their Generation
the Children of Light.
9. "And I Say unto you,
'MAKE TO YOURSELVES
FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON
THAT, WHEN YE FAIL,
THEY MAY RECEIVE YOU INTO
10. "He that is faithful
in that which is least
is faithful also in much:
and he that is unjust
in the least
is unjust also in much.
11. "If therefore ye
have not been faithful
in the Unrighteous Mammon,
who will commit to your trust
The True Riches?
12. "And if ye have not
been faithful in that
which is another man's,
who shall give you
that which is your own?
13. "No servant can serve
for either he will
hate the one,
and love the other;
or else he will
hold to the one,
and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God
14. And the Pharisees also,
who were covetous,
heard all these things:
and they derided him.
15. And he Said unto them,
"Ye are they
which justify yourselves
but God knoweth your hearts:
for that which is
among men is Abomination
in The Sight of God."
IF YOU ARE IN DISSOCIATION, YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PERCEIVE YOUR WORDS TO BE BLASPHEMOUS.
IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO DENOUNCED YOU CALLED YESHUA THEIR GOD: HE IS NOT OUR GOD.
. JOHN 20:17.
17. Jesus Saith unto her,
"Touch me not;
for I am not yet
Ascended to my Father:
but go to my Brethren,
and say unto them,
' I ASCEND UNTO MY FATHER,
AND YOUR FATHER;
AND TO MY GOD,
AND YOUR GOD.' "
Lord Yeshua categorically stated that THE FATHER is OUR GOD and HIS GOD.
No one therefore has authority to say that LORD YESHUA is GOD to CHRISTIANS.
. DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.
32. What thing soever I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee, saying,
"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"
3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.
IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO WORSHIP A DIFFERENT GOD THAN THE ONE PROPHET MOSES PRESENTED.
I am aware of the Theological Chicanaries of the COLONIAL IMPERIALIST OYINBOS, whereby they claim that YESHUA is GOD- "coequal with GOD: THE FATHER and GOD: THE HOLY SPIRIT."
[See: THE BOOK OF COMMON PRAYER.]
None of those THEORIES are valid.
. JOHN 4:19-24.
19. The woman saith unto him,
"Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.
20. "Our fathers worshipped in this mountain;
and ye say,
'THAT IN JERUSALEM IS THE PLACE
WHERE MEN OUGHT TO WORSHIP.'
21. Jesus Saith unto her,
"Woman, believe me,
the Hour cometh,
when ye shall neither in this mountain,
nor yet at Jerusalem,
worship The Father.
22. "Ye worship ye know not what:
we know what we worship:
for Salvation is of the Jews.
23. "But the hour cometh,
and now is,
when the True Worshippers
shall worship The Father in spirit and in Truth:
for The Father seeketh such to worship Him.
24. "God is a Spirit:
and they that worship Him
must worship Him in spirit and in Truth."
IT IS AN INTELLECTUAL IMPOSSIBILITY FOR ANY GENTILE THEOLOGIAN TO CLAIM TO KNOW THE BIBLE BETTER THAN THE SAMARITANS.
They lived RIGHT NEXT DOOR, as it were, to the ORIGINAL SCRIBES of The Bible, and spoke the LANGUAGE, and knew the meanings of Scriptural Terminology and Injunctions before they were butchered in Gentile Languages, such as Greek and Latin.
Yet, LORD YESHUA decreed categorically, that THEY COULD NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
Therefore, for someone to turn around and say that they have an interpretation of The Bible that contradicts Lord Yeshua's explicit statements about his status and standing, is the height of arrogance, presumption, and insanity.
. JOHN 14:28.
28. "Ye have heard how I Said unto you,
'I GO AWAY,
AND COME AGAIN UNTO YOU.'
If ye loved me,
ye would rejoice,
because I Said,
'I GO UNTO THE FATHER:'
for my Father is greater than I."
LORD YESHUA WAS THEREFORE NOT EQUAL WITH GOD, NEITHER IS HE OUR GOD.
You have not proven that YESHUA was GOD; neither have you proven that GOD IS LIKE A LITTLE CHILD.
IF YOU WERE ARGUING FROM THE STANDPOINT THAT YESHUA WAS GOD WHEN HE WAS A BABY AND A LITTLE CHILD, YOU COULD HAVE SINCERELY SAID:
"GOD WAS LIKE A LITTLE CHILD."
That is NOT what you said: you said that GOD IS A LITTLE CHILD- meaning RIGHT NOW!
WE SEE HERE THE STUPIDITY AND INSANITY OF DISSOCIATION.
You have CHANGED your Story, to say that JESUS- whom YOU THINK can be called "GOD"- "WAS ONCE" a BABY, and "WAS ONCE" a LITTLE CHILD: while still standing by your claim that "God IS like a Little Child."
I WOULD NOT, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE HEBREW RELIGION.
They didn't worship people as gods.
They did GENUFLECT, to show respect, but this was never to declare a HUMAN BEING to be a god.
The ROMANS considered their CAESARS to be gods.
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oaroloye:Waste of much space!
At least you can now fully understand why I never dignified your comments concerning apostle Paul, with any response.
Because your showed yourself an epitome of the curse of knowledge.
So while this would be my first comment, it would yet be the last comment I would waste on your case.
So now you have the chance to show your best steps, cause you have all the floor to yourself.
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I WOULD NOT WORSHIP THE INFANT MESSIAH AS GOD, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NOT BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE HEBREW RELIGION.
. LUKE 2:7-20.
7. And she brought forth
her firstborn son,
and wrapped him
in swaddling clothes,
and laid him in a manger;
because there was no room
for them in the inn.
8. And there were in
the same country shepherds
abiding in the field,
keeping watch over their flock
9. And, lo, the Angel of the Lord
came upon them,
and the Glory of the Lord
shone round about them:
and they were sore afraid.
10. And the Angel said unto them,
“Fear not: for, behold,
I bring you Good Tidings
of Great Joy,
which shall be to all people.
11. “For unto you is born this day
in the City of David a Saviour,
which is Christ the Lord.
12. “And this shall be
a Sign unto you;
‘YE SHALL FIND THE BABE
WRAPPED IN SWADDLING CLOTHES,
LYING IN A MANGER.’ ”
13. And suddenly there was
with the Angel
a multitude of the Heavenly Host
14. “GLORY TO GOD
IN THE HIGHEST,
AND ON EARTH PEACE,
GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN.”
15. And it came to pass,
as the Angels were
gone away from them into Heaven,
the shepherds said one to another,
“Let us now go
even unto Bethlehem,
and see this thing
which is come to pass,
which the Lord hath
made known unto us.”
16. And they came with haste,
and found Mary, and Joseph,
and the babe lying in a manger.
17. And when they had seen it,
they made known abroad the saying
which was told them
concerning this child.
18 .And all they that heard it
wondered at those things
which were told them
by the shepherds.
19. But Mary kept all these things,
and pondered them in her heart.
20. And the shepherds returned,
glorifying and praising God
for all the things
that they had heard and seen,
as it was told unto them.
THERE IS NO RECORD THAT ANYBODY WORSHIPPED YESHUA AS A NEWBORN BABY.
The WISE MEN FROM THE EAST were nowhere near the manger, and arrived in Israel a LONG time after his birth- as long as TWO YEARS later- which many Functional Illiterate Fools do not know, nor reason.
. MATTHEW 2:1-18.
NOW when Jesus was born
in Bethlehem of Judaea
in the days of Herod the king,
behold, there came wise men
from the East to Jerusalem,
"Where is he that is born
King of the Jews?
For we have seen his star
in the East,
and are come to worship him."
3. When Herod the king
had heard these things,
he was troubled,
and all Jerusalem with him.
4. And when he had gathered
all the Chief Priests
and scribes of the people together,
he demanded of them
where Christ should be born.
5. And they said unto him,
"In Bethlehem of Judaea:
for thus it is written
by the Prophet,
6. 'AND THOU BETHLEHEM,
IN THE LAND OF JUDA,
ART NOT THE LEAST
AMONG THE PRINCES
FOR OUT OF THEE
SHALL COME A GOVERNOR,
THAT SHALL RULE
MY PEOPLE ISRAEL.' "
7. Then Herod,
when he had privily
called the wise men,
enquired of them diligently
what time the star appeared.
8. And he sent them to Bethlehem,
"Go and search diligently
for the young child;
and when ye have found him,
bring me word again,
that I may come
and worship him also."
9. When they had heard the king,
and, lo, the star,
which they saw in the East,
went before them,
till it came and stood over
where the young child was.
10. When they saw the star,
with exceeding great joy.
11. And when they were come
into the house,
they saw the young child
with Mary his mother,
and fell down,
and worshipped him:
and when they had opened
they presented unto him gifts;
gold, and frankincense,
12. And being warned of God
in a Dream
that they should not
return to Herod,
into their own country
13. And when they were departed,
behold, the Angel of The LORD
appeareth to Joseph in a Dream,
"Arise, and take
the young child
and his mother,
and flee into Egypt,
and be thou there
until I bring thee word:
for Herod will seek
the young child
to destroy him."
14 When he arose,
he took the young child
and his mother by night,
and departed into Egypt:
15. And was there
until the death of Herod:
that it might be fulfilled
which was spoken of the Lord
by the Prophet,
"OUT OF EGYPT
HAVE I CALLED
16. Then Herod,
when he saw
that he was mocked
of the wise men,
was exceeding wroth,
and sent forth,
and slew all the children
that were in Bethlehem,
and in all the coasts thereof,
from two years old and under,
according to the time
which he had diligently
enquired of the wise men.
17. Then was fulfilled that
which was Spoken
by Jeremy the Prophet,
18. "IN RAMA WAS THERE
A VOICE HEARD,
LAMENTATION AND WEEPING,
AND GREAT MOURNING,
RACHEL WEEPING FOR HER CHILDREN,
AND WOULD NOT BE COMFORTED,
BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT."
THE TERM TRANSLATED "WORSHIP" IS THE SAME USED EVERYWHERE IN THE GOSPELS [Strong's Reference: 4352- PRŌKUNĒŌ: to kiss (like a DOG licking his master's hand); to fawn, to crouch to, to prostrate in homage, do reverence to, adore, worship.]
[b]NO HEBREW ISRAELITE WORSHIPPED LORD YESHUA AS A BABY: THEY WOULDN'T DO THAT.
Those who worshipped him as an Adult were showing him respect as a Holy Teacher. If it were worship as a god, the Pharisees would have used it against him.
Clearly, their Disciples and penitents did the same to them.
You have already demonstrated ignorance of what is taught in the World.
"BECOMING AS A LITTLE CHILD" IS NOT THE PERMANENT STATE OF A CITIZEN OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
Colonial Imperial Christianity taught that in order to subjugate nations they had conquered with The Bible.
Their Clergy taught that only they could understand The Bible, and that other Christians had to BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, and STAY THAT WAY- from Cradle-to-Grave. They KILLED people who challenged that Theology.
YOUR ELDERS WERE CORRECT: YOU ARE LIVING PROOF THAT THOSE SAYINGS WERE TRUE!
WHEREAS ONE HAS TO BECOME AS A LITTLE CHILD TO ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD, ONE DOES NOT STAY [/i]A LITTLE CHILD!
. [i]1st [b]JOHN 2:9-14.
9. He that saith he is in the Light,
and hateth his Brother,
is in Darkness even until now.
10. He that loveth his Brother abideth in the Light,
and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his Brother is in Darkness,
and walketh in Darkness,
and knoweth not whither he goeth,
because that Darkness hath blinded his eyes.
12. I write unto you, Little Children,
[i]“BECAUSE YOUR SINS
ARE FORGIVEN YOU
FOR HIS NAME'S SAKE.”
13. I write unto you, Fathers,
“BECAUSE YE HAVE KNOWN HIM
THAT IS FROM THE BEGINNING.”
I write unto you, Young Men,
[I]“BECAUSE YE HAVE OVERCOME
THE WICKED ONE.”[/i]
I write unto you, Little Children,
“BECAUSE YE HAVE
KNOWN THE FATHER.”
14. I have written unto you,
“FATHERS, BECAUSE YE HAVE
KNOWN HIM THAT IS
FROM THE BEGINNING.”
I have written unto you,
[I]“YOUNG MEN, BECAUSE
YE ARE STRONG,
AND THE WORD OF GOD
ABIDETH IN YOU,
AND YE HAVE OVERCOME
THE WICKED ONE.”[/i]
The Levels of Development are:
3. YOUNG MEN.
2. LITTLE CHILDREN.
1. BABES IN CHRIST.
0. CARNAL BRETHREN.
-1. NATURAL MEN.
(YOUR RHETORIC IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT OF A "CARNAL BRETHREN.)
TIP: REAL SERVANTS OF GOD GET THEIR LEARNING FROM THE SCRIPTURES- NOT FROM KIDDIES.
That explains a LOT about you, right there.
. 1st JOHN 2:21.
21. I have not written
unto you because
ye know not The Truth,
but because ye know It,
and that no lie
is of The Truth.
. JOHN 8:30-32.
As he Spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then Said Jesus
to those Jews which
believed on him,
"If ye continue
in my Word,
(then) are ye
my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall
know The Truth,
and The Truth
shall make you free."
YOCHANNAN WAS NOT WRITING TO NOVICE BABIES.
BUT WHY HAVE YOU NOT DONE THAT?
All we are seeing from you (those who are on the same page with me, that is is self-serving rhetoric.
Nothing that serves GOD, nor Lord Yeshua.
You are trying to impress us with your supposedly MATURE UNDERSTANDING- which is actually MISUNDERSTANDING.
HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT LITTLE CHILDREN COULD REMIND LORD YESHUA OF THE FATHER, WHEN HIS GOD, THE FATHER WAS NEVER A LITTLE CHILD?
If you have to be a LITTLE CHILD to enter into KINDERGARTEN, does that mean that THE HEADMASTER, TEACHERS, AND STAFF are also "AS LITTLE CHILDREN?"
NAGUALISM Teaches that INFANTS are born with EIGHT-LEVEL AWARENESS- which ADULTS ignorantly teach them to maintain only the ONE EARTHLY LEVEL of Perception.
[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]
That is another aspect of the meaning of "BECOMING AS A LITTLE CHILD," because we have that Awareness of THE SEVEN HEAVENS restored through The Gospel.
Also, SCIENTOLOGY Teaches that to attain the state of CLEAR- totally free of Mental Abberations- one must TOTALLY-RECALL as far back as one's BIRTH, and GESTATION- that is, remember things that happened to us IN OUR MOTHER'S WOMB.
[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard.]
SCIENTOLOGY IS BASED UPON THE PARAPHRASED PRINCIPLES OF TWO CHAPTERS OF THE BIBLE:
. LEVITICUS 11:1-47.
. MATTHEW 18:1-35.
NAGUALISM IS THE CORROBORATION OF LORD YESHUA'S PARABLE OF THE ARROGANT INVITEES:
. MATTHEW 22:1-14.
These Teachings prove what BIBLE BELIEVERS could have attained - if only they had been diligent in applying It.
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 10:04am On Feb 05|
Obviously the proud adults definitely wouldn't bow down and worship a baby God.
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by oaroloye(m): 11:58am On Feb 05|
LIARS HATE KNOWLEDGE.
It means that they cannot play upon people's ignorance.
. PROVERBS 1:7.
7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
(but) Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction.
HOW CAN YOU NOT CALL KNOWLEDGE A CURSE, WHEN YOU YOURSELF HAVE NONE?
How could you possible have Knowledge, when you do not fear GOD?
(1) THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN "APOSTLE."
. MATTHEW 23:1-15.
THEN Spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his Disciples,
"The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do;
but do not ye after their works:
for they say,
and do not.
4. "For they bind heavy burdens
and grievous to be borne,
and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them
with one of their fingers.
5. "But all their works they do
for to be seen of men:
they make broad their phylacteries,
and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts,
and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues,
7. "And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.'
8. "But be not ye called 'Rabbi:'
for one is your Master,
and all ye are Brethren.
9. "And call no man your father upon the Earth:
for one is your Father,
Which is in Heaven.
10. "Neither be ye called masters:
for one is your Master,
11. "But he that is greatest among you
shall be your servant.
12. "And whosoever shall exalt himself
shall be abased;
and he that shall humble himself
shall be exalted.
13. "But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye shut up The Kingdom of Heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves,
neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer:
therefore ye shall receive The Greater Damnation.
15. "Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites!
for ye compass Sea and Land
to make one proselyte,
and when he is made,
ye make him twofold more
the Child of Hell than yourselves."
EVEN WHEN LORD YESHUA WAS ON THE EARTH, THE DISCIPLES FOUGHT WITH ONE ANOTHER OVER WHICH OF THEM WAS GREATEST.
. MARK 9:33-37.
33. And he came to Capernaum:
and being in the house he asked them,
"What was it that ye disputed among yourselves
by the way?"
34. But they held their peace:
for by the way
they had disputed among themselves,
who should be the greatest.
THIS WAS VERY IMPORTANT IN THEIR SOCIETY.
Therefore, they hid the Lord's Teaching forbidding them to be Masters and Rabbis over other Brethren, in order to lord it over the Newcomers, who would not know any better, and expect it of them.
(2) LORD YESHUA DOES NOT MANIFEST HIMSELF TO SINNERS.
. JOHN 14:21-27.
21. "He that hath my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."
22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot,
"Lord, how is it that thou
wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"
23. Jesus answered and Said unto him,
"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and The Word which ye hear is not mine,
but The Father's which sent me.
25. "These things have I spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But the Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom the Father will send in my Name,
He shall Teach you All Things,
and bring All Things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."
(3) PAUL CLAIMED THAT LORD YESHUA HAD MANIFESTED TO HIM AND GIVEN HIM A NEW GOSPEL TO REPLACE THE ONE HE HAD TAUGHT HIMSELF.
. MATTHEW 24:14.
14. "And This Gospel of The Kingdom
shall be preached in all the World
for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall The End come."
. MATTHEW 24:35.
35. "Heaven and Earth shall pass away,
but my Words shall not pass away."
. MATTHEW 28:16-20.
16. Then the eleven Disciples
went away into Galilee,
into a mountain where Jesus
had appointed them.
17. And when they saw him,
they worshipped him:
but some doubted.
18. And Jesus came
and Spake unto them,
"All Power is given unto me
in Heaven and in Earth.
19. "Go ye therefore,
and teach all nations,
in The Name of The Father,
and of The Son,
and of The Holy Ghost:
20. "Teaching them to observe
all things whatsoever I have Commanded you:
I am with you alway,
even unto The End of The World." Amen.
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOSPEL: THE ONE WHICH LORD YESHUA PREACHED.
PAUL preached a different Gospel.
. GALATIANS 1:6-17.
6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed
from him that called you
into the Grace of Christ unto another Gospel:
7. Which is not another;
but there be some that trouble you,
and would pervert The Gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an Angel from Heaven,
preach any other Gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you,
let him be Accursed.
9. As we said before,
so say I now again,
“IF ANY MAN
PREACH ANY OTHER GOSPEL UNTO YOU
THAN THAT YE HAVE RECEIVED,
LET HIM BE ACCURSED.”
10. For do I now persuade men, or God?
Or do I seek to please men?
For if I yet pleased men,
I should not be the Servant of Christ.
11. But I certify you, Brethren,
that the Gospel which was preached of me
is not after Man.
12. For I neither received it of Man,
neither was I taught it,
but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
13. For ye have heard of my conversation
in time past in the Jews' Religion,
how that beyond measure
I persecuted the Church of God,
and wasted it:
14. And profited in the Jews' Religion
above many my equals in mine own nation,
being more exceedingly zealous
of the traditions of my fathers.
15. But when it pleased God,
who separated me from my mother's womb,
and called me by his grace,
16. To reveal his Son in me,
that I might preach him among the Heathen;
immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
17. Neither went I up to Jerusalem
to them which were Apostles before me;
but I went into Arabia,
and returned again unto Damascus.
SERVANTS OF GOD CANNOT WITHHOLD THE TRUTH OF GOD FROM THOSE WHO NEED IT WITHOUT SUFFERING DIRE CONSEQUENCES.
. MATTHEW 10:16-20.
16. “Behold, I send you forth
as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves.
17. "But beware of men:
for they will deliver you up to the Councils,
and they will scourge you in their Synagogues;
18. "And ye shall be brought before governors
and kings for my sake,
for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles.
19. But when they deliver you up,
take no thought how or what ye shall speak:
for it shall be given you in that same hour
what ye shall speak.
20. "For it is not ye that speak,
but The Spirit of your Father
Which speaketh in you."
. JOHN 3:34-36.
34. "For he whom God hath sent
speaketh The Words of God:
for God giveth not The Spirit
by measure unto him.
35. "The Father loveth the Son,
and hath given all things into his hand.
36. "He that believeth on The Son
hath Everlasting Life:
and he that believeth not The Son
shall not see Life;
but The Wrath of God
abideth on him."
. JOHN 12:44-50.
44. Jesus cried and Said,
“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light into the World,
that whosoever believeth on me
should not abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I speak therefore,
even as the Father said unto me,
so I Speak."
THE SPIRIT OF GOD CANNOT SPEAK IN YOU, WHEN THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS NOT IN YOU.
Therefore, you cannot defend your False Apostle.
. MATTHEW 10:34-38.
34. "Think not that I am come
to send Peace on Earth:
I came not to send Peace,
but a sword.
35. "For I am come to set a man
at variance against his father;
and the daughter against her mother;
and the daughter-in-law
against her mother-in-law.
36. "And a man's foes (shall be)
they of his own household.
37. "He that loveth father or mother
more than me is not worthy of me:
and he that loveth son or daughter
more than me is not worthy of me."
IF PAUL WERE YOUR FATHER, OR YOUR MOTHER, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE NO RIGHT TO LOVE HIM MORE THAN LORD YESHUA!
That is, however, what you have done.
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by 1Sharon(f): 12:17pm On Feb 05|
I thought you were a Christian
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 12:22pm On Feb 05|
1Sharon:No i'm a true disciple of Jesus, not a christian
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by 1Sharon(f): 12:36pm On Feb 05|
And what's the difference
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 1:21pm On Feb 05|
1Sharon:The difference is that true Jesus disciples go all the way with Jesus, but the Christians stop half way.
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 9:56am On Feb 11|
An adult child would!
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 1:24pm On Feb 12|
We fall down and worship Him.
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It takes a little child!
|Re: Would You Have Fallen Down And Worshipped A Baby God? Photo. by jesusjnr(m): 9:32pm On Feb 16|
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