Kobojunkie:

lol . . . . Is this denial or what?

That their was a curfew and soldiers did kill in some areas, should now be interpreted to mean that all killings that took place during that time, in all areas of the country were done by soldiers, and it had to be IBB?

WOW

doyin13:

Are you absolving Babangida of any culpability?

I

It speaks for itself.

Sharon_f:

What is your POINT?

doyin13:

He needn't have pulled the trigger on those people that died to
be responsible for the killings that took place.

That it happened under his watch and from circumstances he connived
to create himself is frankly more than enough.

@Kobojunkie
you're frm which planet?
Did IBB order the shootings and the killings that took place during those riots? I am sorry, IBB may be an slowpoke but let's not heap it all on him no
are u sure you're not sucking your mama's bosom that time?
i'm talking about policemen shootin people on the street, in their balconies, because they're protestin d annulment of d election and you're are talkin about, tribal fight

Solomon227:

@ Kobojunkie
Please wen u want to make comments on sensitive issues that border on human life make sure u have yor facts, U said people that were killed in the June 12 crisis died from tribal attacks. FYI I was on Lagos street as a restless teenager participating live in the protests in 1993. It started peacefully and b/4 u know it thugs took over attacking Govt installations and offices (like u expect) and the soldiers responded with fires (I lost a friend to soldier's fire and I saw a dead pregnant woman from stray bullet) and like a nightmare the soldiers tool over and came into streets harassing and thrashing every1 including women and infants. Kobo, may be u wuld blame dose of us that went out there 4 what we got but let me ask u, Were u in Nigeria when 10s of brilliant military officers were murdered by d evil genius in ADC crash? were u in Nigeria when IBB murdered his best friend from secondary school (Vatsa), were u in this country wen IBB murdered Dele Giwa? Kobo, where were u wen all Nigerian universities were closed for almost 1 year by the Dinosaur? where were u wen IBB annul an election and now seeking to be elected (dont u think its crazily contradicting), where were u when Soyinka shouted millions has been deposited in his account? Just last month your 'hero' pull another fast one on Dabor for advsing him to stare clare of the presidential poll, I will forgive u if u were probably too young to understand d havocs IBB reck on Nigeria and Nigerians in 1993

hackney:

This man no dey come my village again if not i for go wait for am with
ogbunigwe. This one no dey for bullet-proof.

i am surprised that in 2010 you guys havent realized that arguing with kobojunkie is akin to a dog chasing its tail.
even in america if 10 of you decide to steal bubblegum from the 7 11 store. if nine of you wait outside while you send the 10th guy to go steal the bubble gum. if during the stealing the guy is caught by the owner and he decides to blast the owner. even though the nine of you did not sign up for murder you are going to jail for first degree murder. all 10 of you. why ? because you were co-conspirators in the scheme that led to the store-owners murder. same thing with IBB. he created the atmosphere for the murders. he was the one who hatched the scheme that led to people committing murders. he is a co-conspirator to those murders

buzugee:

i am surprised that in 2010 you guys havent realized that arguing with kobojunkie is akin to a dog chasing its tail.
even in america if 10 of you decide to steal bubblegum from the 7 11 store. if nine of you wait outside while you send the 10th guy to go steal the bubble gum. if during the stealing the guy is caught by the owner and he decides to blast the owner. even though the nine of you did not sign up for murder you are going to jail for first degree murder. all 10 of you. why ? because you were co-conspirators in the scheme that led to the store-owners murder. same thing with IBB. he created the atmosphere for the murders. he was the one who hatched the scheme that led to people committing murders. he is a co-conspirator to those murders

Kobojunkie:

a) June 12th riot did not really take place on JUNE 12th.

b) I was in Lagos too . . . only I was at least 20 miles away from where the riot killings happened on the day of the riot. Many of the killings that took place after the Ojota riots, took place in areas where the army or the police curfews were not really in place.

c) Please go back to the begining of the chat to get a better understanding of what the conversation has been about, read and the come back and rephrase your log above if you really want me to comment on anything you have up there.

paddy_lo:

Excellent point. . .

~Bluetooth:

I have not really grab her point of arguement;that ibb wasn't responsible for the hope 93 deaths,honestly,this is the first time i'm hearing it.i guess she doesnt know how powerful ibb and of recent,abacha were so powerful when they were in power.who killed those innocent lives ? Nigeria army that served IBB ? Is there any connection or not ?

Tadeus:

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME JUST ONE REASON WHY I SHOULD VOTE FOR IBB, ?

IBB IS,

(A) CAPABLE

(B) EXPERIENCED

(C) DETERMINED

(D) NONE OF THE ABOVE

CGKing:

Poster.

There is nothing new about that. IBB has always made sense. He is an intelligent man. But he is pure evil and that is a serious issue. Would you accept Hitlers candidacy because he makes siense? Hitler was a brilliant man, man.

~Bluetooth:

I have not really grab her point of arguement;that ibb wasn't responsible for the hope 93 deaths,honestly,this is the first time i'm hearing it.i guess she doesnt know how powerful ibb and of recent,abacha were so powerful when they were in power.who killed those innocent lives ? Nigeria army that served IBB ? Is there any connection or not ?

doyin13:

He needn't have pulled the trigger on those people that died to
be responsible for the killings that took place.

That it happened under his watch and from circumstances he connived
to create himself is frankly more than enough.

Kobojunkie:

We had a discussion about a year or two ago on June 12th and people clearly agreed that IBB set off a chain reaction that claimed lives and halted a whole nation for over a week. Majority agreed that yes, there were killings by the soldiers but not all the killings involved the army or the police at that time given that the army was not present in all areas, yet there were attacks on individuals, and some killed simply for being hausa or yoruba.
Fast forward a year or two and we are already working on denying that bit so we can claim it was all IBB's doing?

Sigh!! I don't like IBB and if he wins, I probably will not be visiting Nigeria till he leaves but that is no reason to TWIST history so we can feel better about ourselves.

Kobojunkie:

I am sorry but at this point it is somewhat obvious that it is not the case that I have not made my point well but that you REFUSE to see reason aside from that which you cling to their. PLease go back, read my posts AS IS to understand what I have said to this point on this and how what you have above shows you were not even following but simply responding.

By the way, insults and personal attacks do not ERASE points, they only reveal the level of maturity the one who stoops to that functions at . For those who have evidence against, provide it, else accept that people are allowed to have an opinion different from yours on issues.

~Bluetooth:

LWKMD. . .so i'm off-point now ? What you said was that IBB was not responsible for the deaths of people that died in during the 93 riot and i have told you what i knew and witnessed,so

~Bluetooth:
why would i need a source to present a case that i witnessed.i can still see myself holding green leaves amidst the sight of stern looking soldiers parading the streets.so what is your point now ?

can i call a friend ?

Kobojunkie:

I am not disputing that in anyway. I am simply saying that the many of the murderers who took to killing their neighbors in pretend retaliation during that period did not get their orders from the man though, and so it will be a bit naive to assume that all those who were murdered during that period were murdered during the riot.
Many of those in my area who were killed, died after the main riot, and people would have had no real reasons to FLEE back to their villages if their was no sensed tribal tone to the killings. Easterners fled east and westerners fled back to their villages for fear they would be next.

Kobojunkie:

Please repost the exact line where I said IBB was not responsible for the deaths please. I really want to know why you are having a hard time understanding my post all of a sudden.
I asked you earlier. did you also witness the cases that I witnessed and you did not answer me. Telling me you witnessed it does not negate what I witnessed or does it somehow do that?