HappyPagan:
this thread title though.. got me checking if I'm in the right section everytime I refresh.. GOD and CHOOSE >>>

IAmSabrina:

Hmph. LordReed take it easy o
I do enjoy budaatum's posts. Even though I dont get what point he/she's trying to make half the time

LordReed:


I know you said not to answer but I will for my own entertainment. Budaatum refuses to acknowledge personal sex but I like to think its a she, a sexy, long legged, well endowed, lithe female. LMFAO!

budaatum:

Please ask when you don't understand. I shall gladly respond.

IAmSabrina:

For starters, are you a guy or a girl. I'm just curious

JujuSugar:
Pick up a shoe.....

Now, if God really does exist and wants a relationship with us -- and if this relationship is the single most important thing to "get right" -- then why would God not give us more epistemic access to his own existence … than that of a shoe??. Doesn't this seem incompatible with the existence of a god who wants to have a relationship with us?

budaatum:

Why, do you say "God [did] not give us more epistemic access to his own existence", yet claim "He told me".

budaatum:

"So God created buda in God's own image, in the image of God God create buda; both male and female God created buda."

IAmSabrina:
I find it quite bizarre that ones eternal salvation depends on believing that god exists based on poor evidence.

IAmSabrina:
Whats even worse is that belief or disbelief is something one has no control over. Nobody can force their minds to believe something that doesn't make any sense. Sure you can say that you believe something is true, but that is not the same thing as believing it with your mind. 

JujuSugar:

You do know you didn't answer the question, right?

LordReed:


I know you said not to answer but I will for my own entertainment. Budaatum refuses to acknowledge personal sex but I like to think its a she, a sexy, long legged, well endowed, lithe female. LMFAO!

JujuSugar:

I thought we were playing a game, weren't we?

budaatum:

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budaatum:

A reasoning game? I'd agree. Consistency must be a rule of our playing though.

If I have heard evidence with my hearing sense I can not rationally claim lack of evidence to my senses. If you can, please explain how.

JujuSugar:

Ok
Budaatum when I said "God told me".......
It was a joke!!!!
Satisfied?

budaatum:

Oh my, forgive me! I did warn you that I cannot read between the lines. Sarcasm is between the line writing too and I don't do that neither.

JujuSugar:

Didn't I say that our epistemological framework was such that we can't understand God in my OP?..... Can you show me where I said otherwise?......

JujuSugar:
Going back to read all your posts and I'm just going to assume you're an agnostic deist......

HappyPagan:
All these smart people giving me headache... una no dey sleep?

HappyPagan:
All these smart people giving me headache... una no dey sleep?

budaatum:

Happy, this juju is pissing me off!

Does buda do sarcasm?

budaatum:

Yes you did! At least you did on clarification, and I paraphrased it as "Essentially, 'we know so much about pencils but nothing about God'", though you seem to be bouncing from "our epistemological framework was sufficient", to "it is insufficient", in other posts.

If you go back further than a week, you will meet the atheist buda, who does not believe gods do not exist but the one who knew they do not exist except in the minds of those in whom they are created. This buda the new evolved buda is a Jesus is Lord buda because God has created buda a mind. Just so you don't get confused.

HappyPagan:

Well, half the board doesn't find you boring. The other half can't follow what you say, but they think it is interesting.. you do use a lot of words.

all I'm saying is, yeah, you do come off as sarcastic.

HappyPagan:

Well, half the board doesn't find you boring. The other half can't follow what you say, but they think it is interesting.. you do use a lot of words.

all I'm saying is, yeah, you do come off as sarcastic.

JujuSugar:

Thank you o
Its almost dizzying reading his posts.....and at this time.....
No offense, budaatum

budaatum:

No offence taken. I've enjoyed discussing with you. Your freedom of expression is refreshing and you tasked my mind, which I respect immensely.

MuttleyLaff:
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God's approval.

Are you musically inclined? What musical instruments do you play if you are? Do you also compose?

Your body is an earth suit, when you snuff it, the spirit returns back to its Owner but your soul goes to rest and a waiting place pending the day of judgment when you will give account for every careless word spoken, you'll have to explain the reason(s) for your every word, thought and deed. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned, on that day.

budaatum:
You dash buda banana, my Lord! More like short, ugly, bow legged, no tits and gross.

I would add pig, or dog, at the end, but then I'd be asking you to believe dogs and pigs talk too along with Juju's shoes, which is an ask.

LordReed:
No matter what you are , you are always beautiful in my book.

budaatum:

Yes you did! At least you did on clarification, and I paraphrased it as "Essentially, 'we know so much about pencils but nothing about God'", though you seem to be bouncing from "our epistemological framework was sufficient", to "it is insufficient", in other posts.


If you go back further than a week, you will meet the atheist buda, who does not believe gods do not exist but the one who knew they do not exist except in the minds of those in whom they are created. This buda the new evolved buda is a Jesus is Lord buda because God has created buda a mind. Just so you don't get confused.

kkins25:


Ohh buda dont tell me MuttleyLaff's prayer and fasting has finally led you to the charismatic cross of christ. Tell me muttley, what psalms did you read? Did you sing the songs of solomon, the cries of job, the lamentations? what was the trick, the spell, the magic, that hoaxed buda into walking through the narrow path of Christianity to meet sky daddy. Oh pray tell my friend, what did you do to my dear buda....


Hey jujusugar, Buddha denies sarcasm like a thief denies thievery. Haha...

JujuSugar:
Pick up a shoe.....
Can you observe it with any OR all of your 5 senses? If you can, you are able to have as much certainty of this fact as anything else in the world. You'll never see two people debating the existence of shoes. That would be an exercise in stupidity.....
In contrast, the existence of a god is much less certain. Many reasonable and intelligent people become atheists and arguments for God's existence always have reasonable counter arguments. "Experiences" of God can be hard to distinguish from mere psychological or sociological effects.....
So the state of humanity is thus: we find ourselves in a world with an epistemological framework such that we are far more likely to know that a pencil exists than that God exists!
Having established all this, here is my question....
Now, if God really does exist and wants a relationship with us -- and if this relationship is the single most important thing to "get right" -- then why would God not give us more epistemic access to his own existence … than that of a shoe??. Doesn't this seem incompatible with the existence of a god who wants to have a relationship with us?
Cc. Budaatum, LordReed