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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Arda1000(m): 7:39pm On Mar 15
Niger delta is a state, what is ur tribe?
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by preZidO1: 8:08pm On Mar 15
Ika are not igbo, history is there for everyone to read. Don't force your opinion people okay

Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Gr8amechi: 9:17pm On Mar 15
frankdoz28:
Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika and Oshimilli are Igbo people and nothing can change it. Our Ancestral igbo state is known as Anioma. They forced us into delta state and that's why today if they want to call us they will refer to us as Delta-Igbos meaning the Igbos in delta state.
But today it is a pity and very shameful to see some Ika people saying they are not Igbos all because they want to answer Niger-Delta which they don't even know the meaning; some even claim to be bini of which they don't even understand come in bini language. How can you be speaking bia which is an igbo dialect and be claiming bini? are you normal? How can you be bearing an igbo name and you are claiming bini? are you sure you are okay?
If you are one of such Ika people who deny their igbo identity my dear it is high time you wake up from ignorance and tell yourself some truth. can a Yoruba man give birth to a child and give him or her an igbo name? No! Then ask yourself why our parents in Ika are always giving their children an igbo names.
I am proudly Nwa-Aba from Abavo kingdom.
Udo diri unu........
The level of stupidity that some of you exhibit is profound, the name Anioma is an acronym coined from group of clans.
Now Isoko and urhobo are mutually intelligible does that make them one??
Currently the okpe people in delta state are saying they are not Urhobo but should be referred as okpe.

There are so much to language, languages results from cultural interaction doesn't mean you are one and same

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Gr8amechi: 9:24pm On Mar 15
asuustrike1:

They are fact I observed. These facts have been analysized by my team too. Do you know that some villages share similar names too? Mr man the facts are there so stop this myopic thinking. Probably you bring your own fact to refute op's claim.
Mr observer, why do you have places within anioma that are called "igbo quarters"
Do you see any place in anambra that give Igbos a place and call it "igbo quarter" go to Agbor down to ndokwa you would see that those community always have a section for them.
My village has "Hausa quarter and igbo quarter" if this doesn't ring a bell to you then continue

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Osagyefo98: 9:33pm On Mar 15
This rubbish that was started by one aba boy that has no good road in abia state should stop...


Ndokwa, aniocha, asaba are not igbos.
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by asuustrike1: 9:42pm On Mar 15
Gr8amechi:

Mr observer, why do you have places within anioma that are called "igbo quarters"
Do you see any place in anambra that give Igbos a place and call it "igbo quarter" go to Agbor down to ndokwa you would see that those community always have a section for them.
My village has "Hausa quarter and igbo quarter" if this doesn't ring a bell to you then continue
Residential area for certain ethnic group has no link with what Op opined

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Deltatoto: 10:05pm On Mar 15
pointblank247:
but Ndokwa is an Igbo word
you are stupid why didn’t u involve ikwere.wetin una Dey find for delta body?
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by pointblank247(m): 10:12pm On Mar 15
Deltatoto:
you are stupid why didn’t u involve ikwere.wetin una Dey find for delta body?
who invited this first son of a she-goat here ? Go talk to the people of animal kingdom, that's where you belong, eediot

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Deltatoto: 10:34pm On Mar 15
pointblank247:
who invited this first son of a she-goat here ? Go talk to the people of animal kingdom, that's where you belong, eediot
dont deviate deltans are not ibos .dont force us into that slavery we are not ritualists

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by pointblank247(m): 10:49pm On Mar 15
Deltatoto:
dont deviate deltans are not ibos .dont force us into that slavery we are not ritualists
goats are not used for money rituals so stop hiding, I would have loved to use you for pepper soup but, I don't eat leprous goats. You are a goat without sense, get that into your stupid brains,

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:06am On Mar 16
Gr8amechi:

The level of stupidity that some of you exhibit is profound, the name Anioma is an acronym coined from group of clans.
Now Isoko and urhobo are mutually intelligible does that make them one??
Currently the okpe people in delta state are saying they are not Urhobo but should be referred as okpe.

There are so much to language, languages results from cultural interaction doesn't mean you are one and same

I don't know anything about whether Aniomas are Igbo or not, and I don't really care, but yes, Isokos are Urhobos, and there is no reason that makes sense why they are not. This fragmentation of Nigerian tribes is the most ridiculous I've seen anywhere in the world, where groups that are almost identical claim distinct identities that make no sense. There are 1.3 billion ethnic Han Chinese in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore etc and despite significant dialectic differences for such a large ethnic group, they identify as one. Only in Nigeria do we see the foolishness where ethnic groups that may occupy one local government in a state will claim to be a distinct ethnicity even when they share 90-something percent of their culture with another group. I don't understand that primitive mentality.

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Obi1kenobi(m): 12:09am On Mar 16
Deltatoto:
dont deviate deltans are not ibos .dont force us into that slavery we are not ritualists

1) Delta is a state created by the Federal Government, not a tribe
2) I know many Deltans that identify as Igbo
3) Nobody can "force" you to be what you don't want to be.
4) Delta is one of Nigeria's capitals for rituals and cultism. grin Stop deceiving yourself.

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by aniomafirstson: 1:58am On Mar 16
pazienza:


Well, you have a point.
But I still believe we can't throw away the child with the bath water.
You look at the likes of Osita Mordi, and other proudly Igbo people out there, and you begin to feel for them when these Bini claiming Ika people surface.
You don't want to make them look foolish for holding out the Igbo western frontier for us. The least they deserve is our support. Their opinions about Ika Igbo identity can not be swept under the carpet, it must be as relevant as those of them claiming non Igbo. For this reason and more, I would maintain that Ika is Igbo, atleast until a referendum is conducted to separate the Igbos amongst them from the Biniphillic ones.


That's my current stance on this issue. I might yet change stance tomorrow, according to prevailing reality

I watched a video of a political rally by a PDP candidate in Igbodo Ika, where a Man from SE came pledged the support of SEners to the politician of Ika origin in a political rally in Igbodo.
The Igbo spoke in his Igbo dialect which sounds like an Imo dialect to Igbodo people, and they understood him perfectly, and when he was through, they told him that Igbodo and SE are one. Anyi bu ofu, they said.
And this was a gathering full with Ika people.

I don't think the situation down there is as bad as some of us think it is. Atleast towns like Igbodo, Ekwuoma, Abavo can easily be won over to our side if a referendum is conducted in Ika today on town by town basis.
Nice one pazienza

I can see you have changed

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Deltatoto: 6:58am On Mar 16
Obi1kenobi:


1) Delta is a state created by the Federal Government, not a tribe
2) I know many Deltans that identify as Igbo
3) Nobody can "force" you to be what you don't want to be.
4) Delta is one of Nigeria's capitals for rituals and cultism. grin Stop deceiving yourself.
lol
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Deltatoto: 6:59am On Mar 16
pointblank247:
goats are not used for money rituals so stop hiding, I would have loved to use you for pepper soup but, I don't eat leprous goats. You are a goat without sense, get that into your stupid brains,
lol take am easy no be me make Rochas your god father cast.
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by grandstar(m): 7:31am On Mar 16
I've met many Niger Delta. Igbo and many mannerisms quite different from the typical Igbo.

You might not know they are Igbo speaking.

Learnt many are descendants of immigrants who settled here. O
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Gr8amechi: 9:42am On Mar 16
Obi1kenobi:


I don't know anything about whether Aniomas are Igbo or not, and I don't really care, but yes, Isokos are Urhobos, and there is no reason that makes sense why they are not. This fragmentation of Nigerian tribes is the most ridiculous I've seen anywhere in the world, where groups that are almost identical claim distinct identities that make no sense. There are 1.3 billion ethnic Han Chinese in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore etc and despite significant dialectic differences for such a large ethnic group, they identify as one. Only in Nigeria do we see the foolishness where ethnic groups that may occupy one local government in a state will claim to be a distinct ethnicity even when they share 90-something percent of their culture with another group. I don't understand that primitive mentality.
Great you mentioned Chinese not delta state.
You can't force a tribe on someone, the Isoko are not urhobo and soon the okpe would stop being called urhobo.
Go to Europe and see how each clan and ethnicity are respected, similarities doesn't mean oneness.

The whole world biblically came from Adam and Eve so we can as well claim to be one clan. The whole black race has a single ancestral origin why didn't we all claim one origin??
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Perkins2018: 10:02am On Mar 16
asuustrike1:


Is itsekiri,Kabba Yoruba?

JohnDuke101:


Good question. I ask people who tell me same thing as OP said. I have never lived in Itsekiri land, I only visited Warri a few times but I totally understand Itsekiri language based on my understanding of Yoruba language and its dialects.

Kabba is not a tribe. They are called Okun. They are Yoruba. No doubt about that. However, Itshekiri are a distinct tribe who Originates from Ijebu and Edo but now maintains a distinct ethnicity
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by darfay: 10:28am On Mar 16
Obi1kenobi:


I don't know anything about whether Aniomas are Igbo or not, and I don't really care, but yes, Isokos are Urhobos, and there is no reason that makes sense why they are not. This fragmentation of Nigerian tribes is the most ridiculous I've seen anywhere in the world, where groups that are almost identical claim distinct identities that make no sense. There are 1.3 billion ethnic Han Chinese in China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore etc and despite significant dialectic differences for such a large ethnic group, they identify as one. Only in Nigeria do we see the foolishness where ethnic groups that may occupy one local government in a state will claim to be a distinct ethnicity even when they share 90-something percent of their culture with another group. I don't understand that primitive mentality.



Who told you isokos are urhobos?


Can you like not say what you know nothing about?

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Obi1kenobi(m): 10:56am On Mar 16
darfay:




Who told you isokos are urhobos?


Can you like not say what you know nothing about?

Give me one good reason why Isokos are not Urhobo.

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by asuustrike1: 11:11am On Mar 16
Perkins2018:


You failed simple logic. Can you have igbo quarters in Enugu or Imo? can you have Yoruba quarters in Lagos or osun? Can you have hausa quarters in Kano or Sokoto?

The fact that you have igbo quarters in anioma simply means they are not igbo.
You failed woefully because using residential area to depict a particular tribe doesn't correlate with what Op raised. There is no significant relationship between the residency of a tribe to the language spoken. Please come up with a reasonable excuse next time
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Obi1kenobi(m): 11:16am On Mar 16
Gr8amechi:

Great you mentioned Chinese not delta state.
You can't force a tribe on someone, the Isoko are not urhobo and soon the okpe would stop being called urhobo.
Go to Europe and see how each clan and ethnicity are respected, similarities doesn't mean oneness.

The whole world biblically came from Adam and Eve so we can as well claim to be one clan. The whole black race has a single ancestral origin why didn't we all claim one origin??

It's not a question of "forcing a tribe" on anyone. It's a question of small groups forcing a fraudulent distinct identity that makes no sense and claiming it. The matter seems to be at its worst in the Niger Delta, where for all kinds of political reasons, small groups that might not even occupy one full LGA claim distinct tribal status. Europeans do not fragment themselves in that fashion. For example, despite the fact Germanic groups across Europe vary greatly, they identify ethnically as German (even if not part of the German state). Hence you have Swiss Germans (Switzerland is basically "little Germany" ), French Germans (in Strasbourg/Alsace-Lorraine in France) etc. Austrians used to identify as Germans (and once dominated the German Confederation) until fashioning a separate identity after World War 2 to dissociate themselves from the evil history of Nazism.

This penchant many Nigerian groups have for asserting distinct identities is rubbish. Isokos and Urhobos are far closer related than many clans that identify themselves as Igbo or Yoruba, yet claim to be distinct groups. How does that make sense? What stops an Ijebu man from saying they are not Yorubas?

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by asuustrike1: 11:17am On Mar 16
Perkins2018:





Kabba is not a tribe. They are called Okun. They are Yoruba. No doubt about that. However, Itshekiri are a distinct tribe who Originates from Ijebu and Edo but now maintains a distinct ethnicity
Itsekiri were able to differentiate themselves from other tribes. Their dressing, names of their people, names of places and language are unique. When an itsekiri stand out in public he is recognized but when an Anioma does he is tagged an igbo.

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Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by nineone: 1:17pm On Mar 16
asuustrike1:

Itsekiri were able to differentiate themselves from other tribes. Their dressing, names of their people, names of places and language are unique. When an itsekiri stand out in public he is recognized but when an Anioma does he is tagged an igbo.
keep repeating your delusions. What's so Igbo about Anioma appearance? Dressing? Or what exactly? Please make your point clear
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by asuustrike1: 1:19pm On Mar 16
nineone:
keep repeating your delusions. What's so Igbo about Anioma appearance? Dressing? Or what exactly? Please make your point clear
You truth is staring at you
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by nineone: 1:21pm On Mar 16
Obi1kenobi:


It's not a question of "forcing a tribe" on anyone. It's a question of small groups forcing a fraudulent distinct identity that makes no sense and claiming it. The matter seems to be at its worst in the Niger Delta, where for all kinds of political reasons, small groups that might not even occupy one full LGA claim distinct tribal status. Europeans do not fragment themselves in that fashion. For example, despite the fact Germanic groups across Europe vary greatly, they identify ethnically as German (even if not part of the German state). Hence you have Swiss Germans (Switzerland is basically "little Germany" ), French Germans (in Strasbourg/Alsace-Lorraine in France) etc. Austrians used to identify as Germans (and once dominated the German Confederation) until fashioning a separate identity after World War 2 to dissociate themselves from the evil history of Nazism.

This penchant many Nigerian groups have for asserting distinct identities is rubbish. Isokos and Urhobos are far closer related than many clans that identify themselves as Igbo or Yoruba, yet claim to be distinct groups. How does that make sense? What stops an Ijebu man from saying they are not Yorubas?
Did you just say Europeans don't fragment themselves? On what ground? Do you want me to give you some list of very different European languages that are more intelligible and related than lets say the way Awka and Enugu but still chose different identities?
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by nineone: 1:22pm On Mar 16
asuustrike1:

You truth is staring at you
tell me so that I proof you wrong. I don't like people going about spewing one lie repeatedly without evidence. Make your point with facts not just making spurious or bogus claims
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by asuustrike1: 1:31pm On Mar 16
nineone:
tell me so that I proof you wrong. I don't like people going about spewing one lie repeatedly without evidence. Make your point with facts not just making spurious or bogus claims
Mr man stop beat around the bush thereby making repetitive statement. All the fact given by Op and my contributions are there for you to read. Many have seen it and acknowledge those facts. I had even given you suggestions as way forward to reduce the stereotype view of Anioma if you insist that they are not igbos. If you can't come up with reasonable fact to refute our claims then stop quoting me
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by nineone: 1:36pm On Mar 16
asuustrike1:

Mr man stop beat around the bush thereby making repetitive statement. All the fact given by Op and my contributions are there for you to read. Many have seen it and acknowledge those facts. I had even given you suggestions as way forward to reduce the stereotype view of Anioma if you insist that they are not igbos. If you can't come up with reasonable fact to refute our claims then stop quoting me
do you know the meaning of claims (bogus) and facts?
Re: Aniocha, Ndokwa, Ika And Oshimilli Are All Igbo's. Please Know Your Origin by Obi1kenobi(m): 2:21pm On Mar 16
nineone:
Did you just say Europeans don't fragment themselves? On what ground? Do you want me to give you some list of very different European languages that are more intelligible and related than lets say the way Awka and Enugu but still chose different identities?

Go ahead then. I'm waiting.

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