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Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by unstoppable51(m): 1:45am On Mar 17, 2019
From FeedMeJesus.com

A common practice in so many Nigerian and African churches in general, is the prayer of “my enemies fall and die!”

In case you are not familiar with this sort of prayer probably because you are reading this from outside the continent, “fall and die” prayers actually has to do with the “sending of Holy Ghost fire, earthquakes, thunder, rainfall etc to kill and destroy one’s enemies (mostly witches and wizards) and evil spirits.”

The prayer is often targeted at “wicked” uncles, aunts, neighbours, colleagues, mothers, fathers, herbalists, old men and women in villages who does not take pleasure in seeing other people succeed in life.

Sometimes it is also targeted at politicians, leaders and even business people who oppose the spread of the Gospel and “exchange people’s destinies” for money.

This type of prayer is seriously backed up with the belief that there are people who must die before you can ever be successful in life and so you need to pray for this to happen as soon as possible with all your strength. Like a wounded Lion, you must be very violent when praying these fall and die prayers.

The shocking thing is, the two most popular scriptures proponents of such prayers always put their feet on has little or nothing to do with their usage today. The first is Matt.11:12.

(Mat 11:12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Is this verse asking you to be violent in prayer and take your destiny by force? Well to understand what it is saying, let us read it from another translation.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. Matt.11:12 NIV

The verse is simply saying from the time John the Baptist started preaching the kingdom of God has been forcefully advancing on the earth as men has by faith been taking hold of it. It has nothing to do with prayers, let alone violent ones.

The other scripture used to promote these “fall and die” prayers is the passage that describes how Elijah killed King Ahaziah’s soldiers by commanding physical fire to come out from nowhere and consume them.

(2Ki 1:9) Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he went up to him where he was seated on the top of a hill, and said to him, O man of God, the king has said, Come down.

(2Ki 1:10) And Elijah in answer said to the captain of fifty, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. Then fire came down from heaven and put an end to him and his fifty men.

(2Ki 1:11) Then the king sent another captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he said to Elijah, O man of God, the king says, Come down quickly.

(2Ki 1:12) And Elijah in answer said, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and put an end to him and his fifty men.


What most people do not know is that although fire actually appeared and destroyed those soldiers, it wasn’t God’s best. God was never pleased with it. He is never pleased with the death of the wicked.

(Eze 18:23) Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

(Eze 18:32) For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.


Under the dispensation that Elijah lived in, the knowledge of God and His modules operandi was very very limited. So folks in those days said and did things according to their level of knowledge that were contrary to what God would have them do.

This was part of the reason God became flesh in His Son Jesus to give us a perfect representation of His true nature, will and character. Ending an era of attributing evil, death and destruction to Him. This is so clear in that in the face of the strongest opposition Jesus never killed but healed and restored life to His enemies.

(Heb 1:1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

(Heb 1:2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

(Heb 1:3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


So in Christ’s dealing with man, we see the true nature of God. In His words, Jesus puts it this way.

(Joh 10:10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Just a little while after those words, He set out with His disciples to Jerusalem for a preaching engagement and the Samaritans would not allow Him pass through their city because they were not at peace with the Jews.

When His disciple saw what was happening, they got so upset they wanted to call down fire to consume the Samaritans who were their enemies and enemies of the Gospel at that moment. But what did Jesus do? Let’s see it together from the scriptures.

(Luk 9:51) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

(Luk 9:52) And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

(Luk 9:53) And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

(Luk 9:54) And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

(Luk 9:55) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Verse 55 said Jesus REBUKED them for even having that thought alone. The word “rebuked” in that verse is not like when you softly tell your son, “Son don’t do this again.” No, it’s a very strong word. It is used almost the same way it is used to say Jesus rebuked demons. Very strongly.

He was very serious about them not imitating Elijah in this manner at all. And in verse 56 we see His reasons clearly.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them….

In praying for those in authority and for all men in general, Paul gives us a guideline.

(1Ti 2:1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

(1Ti 2:2) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

(1Ti 2:3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

(1Ti 2:4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


God would have all men (including your village people. LOL) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the Truth. He doesn’t want anyone perishing.

Some say it is not the human beings they are praying to die but the evil spirits behind their wickedness. Like seriously? Spirits don’t die! Even if they do, it is not within your authority biblically to kill them. Only God can and that’s why He made Hell, their place of eternal death.

The Bible said believers should cast them out, not kill them in the name of Jesus.

(Mar 16:17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Be humble and remain within the confines of the scriptures and stop making Christianity look like a joke with those extra Biblical practices or those not permitted for the man in Christ today.

I hope this blesses you.

Glory to God!


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/fall-and-die-prayers.html

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by soloehis(m): 2:53am On Mar 17, 2019
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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by CodeTemplar: 3:31am On Mar 17, 2019
So what of the unrepentant ones? Strange doctrines.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by asalimpo(m): 4:23am On Mar 17, 2019
They are pros nd cons to this:

1) Nigerians love dispensing "jungle" justice. Let a thief b caught stealing and the crowd is greater than d police- the thief will b lynched.
That mindset has entered d church. Fortunately man isnt God and has to wait on Him to vetoe his kill-requests.

2) Some enemies r hell-bent on getting you. They are all out to kill/wreck you. It's either you or them. Dialogue isnt an option.
What dyu do then? So assuming these hypothetical enemies are real, and they are hell bent the only recourse is to engage them and eliminate them. They shall b only one standing- who shall it be?
The bible can b used to justify this.
E.g David nd goliath? Goliath defied Isreal and God with loud boastings. He went down.
If say a child of satan, says a woman would never marry or never have children what dyu do?
Also, God is a God of piece but He is also a God of war? In the book of revelations we see Jesus fighting at the battle of Armegeddon. He is Slaughtering his enemies with His spoken word.
In the book of Acts ,one of the apostles commands an opposer of the gospel to go blind!
While in jail with silas,paul didnt pray fall-down-and-die prayers though.
He was attacked many times by godless men but he didnt ask for their lives.
It's confusing which option to take because both routes can b biblically supported. So what should one do? I think,the better option would b to pray that those with a good heart who r satan's pawns be delivered from his deception but those who when both love satan nd want to do his evil will be taken out? E.g if d church had prayed for paul's death when he was persecuting d church, only heaven knows the loss theyd have incurred if tht prayer got answered. Paul,converted,wrote over half of the new testament! Thank God,he didnt "fall down and die"!

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by chiommy123(f): 4:30am On Mar 17, 2019
Op I used to think like you until they opened my eyes. You don't know what they do with peoples destiny these days.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Praisesongz: 6:54am On Mar 17, 2019
Ah hear o
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Richdad50(m): 6:54am On Mar 17, 2019
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Follow this Writer at your own risk. Every man knows his battle and the weight of his burden. He who enters a battlefield with smiles and laughter should never complain of the seriousness of his enemies. No one enters a battle with the intention to give a speech, it is a place of weapons and deadly confrontation. It is either you stop them or they stop you.


Many believers have been cut short in life, returning back to God without the fulfillment of their purpose because they slipped before their enemies. You must understand the mindset of an enemy and know that your enemy does not wish to sit on a peace table with you neither does he want to wait and see the manifestation of your purpose. He is not patient and his aim is to destroy you.

Don't allow this modern warfare preachers decieve you with their mushroom approach to spiritual warfare. Don't be overly focused on the potential of your enemies but on your own powerful strike abilities. With that, you will live a normal and friendly life with people in the open but a dangerous man of prayer in the secret.

Richdad

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by soberdrunk(m): 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
Why somebody would wake up one morning and decide to go after their imaginary enemies is beyond me

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Iammelvin(m): 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
It's my birthday. Show some love people grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by lionness(f): 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
My enemies MUsT die!!!!!

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by nabegibeg: 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
unstoppable51:
From FeedMeJesus.com

A common practice in so many Nigerian and African churches in general, is the prayer of “my enemies fall and die!”

In case you are not familiar with this sort of prayer probably because you are reading this from outside the continent, “fall and die” prayers actually has to do with the “sending of Holy Ghost fire, earthquakes, thunder, rainfall etc to kill and destroy one’s enemies (mostly witches and wizards) and evil spirits.”

The prayer is often targeted at “wicked” uncles, aunts, neighbours, colleagues, mothers, fathers, herbalists, old men and women in villages who does not take pleasure in seeing other people succeed in life.

Sometimes it is also targeted at politicians, leaders and even business people who oppose the spread of the Gospel and “exchange people’s destinies” for money.

This type of prayer is seriously backed up with the belief that there are people who must die before you can ever be successful in life and so you need to pray for this to happen as soon as possible with all your strength. Like a wounded Lion, you must be very violent when praying these fall and die prayers.

The shocking thing is, the two most popular scriptures proponents of such prayers always put their feet on has little or nothing to do with their usage today. The first is Matt.11:12.

(Mat 11:12) And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

Is this verse asking you to be violent in prayer and take your destiny by force? Well to understand what it is saying, let us read it from another translation.

From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it. Matt.11:12 NIV

The verse is simply saying from the time John the Baptist started preaching the kingdom of God has been forcefully advancing on the earth as men has by faith been taking hold of it. It has nothing to do with prayers, let alone violent ones.

The other scripture used to promote these “fall and die” prayers is the passage that describes how Elijah killed King Ahaziah’s soldiers by commanding physical fire to come out from nowhere and consume them.

(2Ki 1:9) Then the king sent to him a captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he went up to him where he was seated on the top of a hill, and said to him, O man of God, the king has said, Come down.

(2Ki 1:10) And Elijah in answer said to the captain of fifty, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. Then fire came down from heaven and put an end to him and his fifty men.

(2Ki 1:11) Then the king sent another captain of fifty with his fifty men; and he said to Elijah, O man of God, the king says, Come down quickly.

(2Ki 1:12) And Elijah in answer said, If I am a man of God, may fire come down from heaven on you and on your fifty men, and put an end to you. And the fire of God came down from heaven, and put an end to him and his fifty men.


What most people do not know is that although fire actually appeared and destroyed those soldiers, it wasn’t God’s best. God was never pleased with it. He is never pleased with the death of the wicked.

(Eze 18:23) Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

(Eze 18:32) For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.


Under the dispensation that Elijah lived in, the knowledge of God and His modules operandi was very very limited. So folks in those days said and did things according to their level of knowledge that were contrary to what God would have them do.

This was part of the reason God became flesh in His Son Jesus to give us a perfect representation of His true nature, will and character. Ending an era of attributing evil, death and destruction to Him. This is so clear in that in the face of the strongest opposition Jesus never killed but healed and restored life to His enemies.

(Heb 1:1) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

(Heb 1:2) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

(Heb 1:3) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;


So in Christ’s dealing with man, we see the true nature of God. In His words, Jesus puts it this way.

(Joh 10:10) The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Just a little while after those words, He set out with His disciples to Jerusalem for a preaching engagement and the Samaritans would not allow Him pass through their city because they were not at peace with the Jews.

When His disciple saw what was happening, they got so upset they wanted to call down fire to consume the Samaritans who were their enemies and enemies of the Gospel at that moment. But what did Jesus do? Let’s see it together from the scriptures.

(Luk 9:51) And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,

(Luk 9:52) And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

(Luk 9:53) And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

(Luk 9:54) And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

(Luk 9:55) But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.


Verse 55 said Jesus REBUKED them for even having that thought alone. The word “rebuked” in that verse is not like when you softly tell your son, “Son don’t do this again.” No, it’s a very strong word. It is used almost the same way it is used to say Jesus rebuked demons. Very strongly.

He was very serious about them not imitating Elijah in this manner at all. And in verse 56 we see His reasons clearly.

(Luk 9:56) For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them….

In praying for those in authority and for all men in general, Paul gives us a guideline.

(1Ti 2:1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

(1Ti 2:2) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

(1Ti 2:3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

(1Ti 2:4) Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.


God would have all men (including your village people. LOL) to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the Truth. He doesn’t want anyone perishing.

Some say it is not the human beings they are praying to die but the evil spirits behind their wickedness. Like seriously? Spirits don’t die! Even if they do, it is not within your authority biblically to kill them. Only God can and that’s why He made Hell, their place of eternal death.

The Bible said believers should cast them out, not kill them in the name of Jesus.

(Mar 16:17) And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Be humble and remain within the confines of the scriptures and stop making Christianity look like a joke with those extra Biblical practices or those not permitted for the man in Christ today.

I hope this blesses you.

Glory to God!


Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/fall-and-die-prayers.html


it is well with my soul

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Alejoas(m): 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
cool
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by johnmattew: 6:55am On Mar 17, 2019
the biggest Reason why I stopped going to church...and prosperity gospel too.nigerian doctrines make one look like a dumb illiterate

they have forgotten that we are our biggest Enemies,not our village people,friend or families.....it's really sad that RCCG is part of the 'our enemies must die' doctrine.they gave successfully mixed Africanism with Christianity..I really respect the likes of TB Joshua that will never preach this kind of Nigerian Christianity doctrines

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 6:56am On Mar 17, 2019
Africans typically overdo everything. Plus we always find a way to blame others for our misfortune except ourselves.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by kollinz1234(m): 6:56am On Mar 17, 2019
Every power hunting for my star, Fall down and Die!! In the name of Jesus!!


@op, if u are not someone's enemy, pls leave that prayer alone

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by koribobo: 6:57am On Mar 17, 2019
This op must be the best joke of the year

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 6:58am On Mar 17, 2019
That advice na for oyibo grin grin grin,, for Here in Africa, you need fall down and die prayers oo. Someone will just wake up, and just go to one evil shrine and started raining incantations and curses on you and your children just because of envy. Infact, I have seen a woman on the road of oshodi one day, that was coming towards a lady, while I was walking at her back. It was a rush hour, This evil woman brought out something like a stick but It was a charm, pointed it towards this ladys tommy at a close range. I caught the screen, the lady caught the drama too but she was confused and kinda gentle. Though she confronted the woman but lightly, the woman just said she was playing with her. And it passed. "Bible says sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof". That's the kind of wickedness we are talking about. Who knows may be the charm has to do with the ladys womb or strange sickness. I have to walk to the lady and told her to better pray vigorously and back to sender kaind of prayers as she was walking. I strongly believe the woman had a mission.
If the fall down and die prayers has been working for some people, why can't I pray such too to fortify my self? You better stop them before they stop you. grin grin grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by hisgrace090: 6:58am On Mar 17, 2019
Your enemies are evil spirit not humans.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 6:59am On Mar 17, 2019
Any enemy that vowed that over their dead body will they see me succeed, die now!

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:02am On Mar 17, 2019
nonsense!!!
that witch wey dey for our yard wey no dey allow me sleep, must die this month gringringringringrin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by sojayy(m): 7:03am On Mar 17, 2019
Ok
Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:03am On Mar 17, 2019
well hat will not stop all my village witches and the ones living in my yard from dying this month grin cheesy grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Vince77(m): 7:03am On Mar 17, 2019
My only enemy is poverty.

That's why I always pray: "poverty die die die, poverty die die die."

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by JusticePlanet: 7:04am On Mar 17, 2019
That one na your own... EVERY ENEMY FALL AND DIE BY FIREEEEEEEEE!!!!

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:04am On Mar 17, 2019
whether the devil likes it or not, i am going to my late wicked uncle's burial this week grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:05am On Mar 17, 2019
more deaths fall on witches and wizards grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:05am On Mar 17, 2019
my village uncle must read this post grin

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Nobody: 7:06am On Mar 17, 2019
If they all die then who will motivate you to be better?.....enemies should live and see.

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Grupo(m): 7:06am On Mar 17, 2019
Christianity will always sell an imaginary problem and an imaginary cure

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Re: Why It Is Never Right For You To Pray That Your Enemies Fall And Die Today by Emmanuel226(m): 7:06am On Mar 17, 2019
LWKMD grin
this week i dey go collect assignment wey go sweep all those little witches wey dey our yard gringringrin

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