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Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Apr 13, 2019
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 8:12pm On Apr 13, 2019
Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Jesse25(m): 8:19pm On Apr 13, 2019
It a very big scam the country it self is not even ready for enginee, our university have no facilities to teach engineering .....I have a diploma in engineering and up till now I can not even figure what I gain in school because they was no practical to what we where be thought in school ...the people I pity most are mechanical engineering student because Nigerian are not ready for one single engineering course talkless of mechanical eng. For me am going to computer science I can't come and waist my time again the only way I can study engineering is when I have the chance to school outside of this country

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by jesmond3945: 9:21pm On Apr 13, 2019
Thats why you have internships or IT. The University would only teach you theories, yes theories because theories are the foundations of problem solving. If you want practicals apply for internships or volunteer to learn some technical skills. If you want to know the significance of these theories watch youtube videos or learn matlab where you can visualize models. If you want to know the way theories are transfered to practical use then am sorry because most technologies are designed either in china or usa or germany.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 9:32pm On Apr 13, 2019
jesmond3945:
Thats why you have internships or IT. The University would only teach you theories, yes theories because theories are the foundations of problem solving. If you want practicals apply for internships or volunteer to learn some technical skills. If you want to know the significance of these theories watch youtube videos or learn matlab where you can visualize models. If you want to know the way theories are transfered to practical use then am sorry because most technologies are designed either in china or usa or germany.
read my article very well brother, when you go on internship, you work as a maintenance engineer. Nigeria graduate does nothing other than to ensure that machine run smoothly.. when they need engineers to modify existing design or change the system, these companies hire foreigners...
Most of the design team of innoson motors are Asians..

Nigeria system give us ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance to actually practise what we have learned. What is the point of acquiring so much theories if we are never going to use it. Isn't that a mockery of ourself?

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 9:37pm On Apr 13, 2019
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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by CodeTemplar: 10:02pm On Apr 13, 2019
1. To start with, Engineering is largely design oriented and not building or development as people like to claim.

2. The Nigerian University system is set up to produce research focused or academic focused graduates and most practical Knowledge we ignorantly ask for from the university system is suppose to be acquired in polytechnics and Tech Colleges.

3. Your lecturers too were taught theories and don't expect them to teach you practicals even if they put in extra effort to get the practical knowledge they posses themselves.

4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 10:21pm On Apr 13, 2019
CodeTemplar:
1. To start with, Engineering is largely design oriented and not building or development as people like to claim.

2. The Nigerian University system is set up to produce research focused or academic focused graduates and most practical Knowledge we ignorantly ask for from the university system is suppose to be acquired in polytechnics and Tech Colleges.

3. Your lecturers too were taught theories and don't expect them to teach you practicals even if they put in extra effort to get the practical knowledge they posses themselves.

4. the university isn't a place for practical focused skill acquisition. Polytechnics and technical Colleges are.

5. The average Nigerian is delusional and expects too be spoonfed with great ideas and their implementations. As engineers, they give you a knowledge of engineering principles and it is left for you to use your imagination to create things out of the principles you have learnt. In accounting, student are taught its principles and nobody takes them to a real life accounting dept to work, It is up to you to figure out what goes in where as you work with those principles.
please go back and read my article. The system is fvcked up.
It is impossible for anyone to implement anything. University or polytechnic
You get put so much theories to your head your brain will discard everything since you are not taught how to implent it.

Its like pouring water to a basket, the moment you finish exam, everything is gone in your head..
An average graduate does not remember anything, what is the point of learning if you are going to forget it all at the end of the day?
People that think like you are Nigerian problem.
There is need to reform the educational system in nigeria..
We are not even talking about making innovation..
Lets just be copying what developed nation are doing.. let us be manufacturing substandard phones, tv and all. One day we will get there..just like china did.

There is need for reformation. How can anyone defend the old and outdated stuffs we learn in Nigerian universities.....

You are part of Nigerias problem. Honestly

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Dollywood(m): 11:29pm On Apr 13, 2019
Educational system in Nigeria is trash, u only learn theories. In here we only read and study for grades don't expect much.. The country is backward the best way is to study engineering aboard for more outstanding practical knowledge. Pray for Nigeria

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by MyGeneration(m): 11:35pm On Apr 13, 2019
The worst scam is banking and finance.

The fact that I am getting enough likes says a lot, I wonder why in some jobs only engineers are allowed to apply, only people with law degrees are allowed to be lawyers, only people who read medicine are allowed to be medical doctors and lawyers.

But come to the bank engineer is working as banker, even medical doctors, even psychology. Then what's the use of the banking degree. I find this totally unacceptable.

Banking and finance is not just a scam its almost use less in Nigeria

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by HajimeSaito(m): 12:29am On Apr 14, 2019
Studying almost any professional course in Nigeria, especially any course in Science or Tech is a scam. The very few University courses that are not scams are Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa studies.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by CodeTemplar: 1:00am On Apr 14, 2019
Dothraki:
please go back and read my article. The system is fvcked up.
It is impossible for anyone to implement anything. University or polytechnic
You get put so much theories to your head your brain will discard everything since you are not taught how to implent it.

Its like pouring water to a basket, the moment you finish exam, everything is gone in your head..
An average graduate does not remember anything, what is the point of learning if you are going to forget it all at the end of the day?
People that think like you are Nigerian problem.
There is need to reform the educational system in nigeria..
We are not even talking about making innovation..
Lets just be copying what developed nation are doing.. let us be manufacturing substandard phones, tv and all. One day we will get there..just like china did.

There is need for reformation. How can anyone defend the old and outdated stuffs we learn in Nigerian universities.....

You are part of Nigerias problem. Honestly

The problem is selfish and lazy attitude from student like you who blame their flaws and forgetfulness on the system.

What practical do you expect people never thought practicals to teach you? Please state some practical aspects of Engineering lets see.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by jesmond3945: 6:10am On Apr 14, 2019
Dothraki:
read my article very well brother, when you go on internship, you work as a maintenance engineer. Nigeria graduate does nothing other than to ensure that machine run smoothly.. when they need engineers to modify existing design or change the system, these companies hire foreigners...
Most of the design team of innoson motors are Asians..

Nigeria system give us ABSOLUTELY ZERO chance to actually practise what we have learned. What is the point of acquiring so much theories if we are never going to use it. Isn't that a mockery of ourself?

you would need those thories someday. No knowledge is a waste. Talking of design, we see Nigerians who design cars but no encouragement to develop it further. Even here on nairaland we see people even mocking them, would Asians mock their brothers who are trying to engineer creative products? My argument is to defend the universities who you seem to blame for not doing enough but you forget that this is a problem of failure in leadership. The Asians who are designing the cars by innoson were living in the dark after the second world war. They understudied the americans, were able to learn technology and replicate same. Look at Innoson, can he send Nigerians to China to understudy and learn how to design cars? Of course he won't. He only cares about money and fame. So don't blame the universities but blame the political class.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by ifada123: 7:33am On Apr 14, 2019
The knowledge we get from electrical engineering is very practical, the problem is that you can't see materials to work with in making designs that will make you innovative as those in the western world (I made a foot detector foot match immediately I graduated, it was not pleasing to the yes,no material to work with no machinery for finishing),
In engineering you are supposed to be taught the basic principles and you as an engineer will think on what to invent with it,
Engineering is not meant to copy, as an average Nigerian engineer want it to be,
They prefer you teach then how the I iPhone X max was design and let them make it, rather than learn how telephone, integrated circutry, displays, cells,and design, allong with order basic needed knowledge,
That was why one richdad ask me to go and make robot rather than learning about circle, when the robot become faulty I will be lost in the ocean.
I don't see Nigeria improving in technology soon.
Why
(1) the supposed theorem we don't even understand it in in-depth
(2) that is the way the lecturer were taught.
(3) for the few engineer that understand it they don't have materials to implement it

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Martinez39(m): 7:57am On Apr 14, 2019
CodeTemplar:

The problem is selfish and lazy attitude from student like you who blame their flaws and forgetfulness on the system.

What practical do you expect people never thought practicals to teach you? Please state some practical aspects of Engineering lets see.
Sorry, you didn't read the OP. How is he lazy? He didn’t say he depends on the system. He said that the engineering curriculum is outdated and devoid of the expertise need to strive in the modern world, it's all theory with no practical and lecturers are not updating themselves. These ought not be in any university but if op is serious about engineering and have money, he can go elsewhere to study.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Uyi168: 8:54am On Apr 14, 2019
Calling it a scam is actually an understatement...

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 9:34am On Apr 14, 2019
CodeTemplar:

The problem is selfish and lazy attitude from student like you who blame their flaws and forgetfulness on the system.

What practical do you expect people never thought practicals to teach you? Please state some practical aspects of Engineering lets see.
so we should keep recycling the same mediocrity right?
We should keep teaching our future generations the same outdated theories right ?
Like i said earlier, our academicians is filled with people like you who just sit and recycle mediocrity

Nigeria is the most populous black nation, its a shame so many people in government and our professsors aren't conscious of this

ONLY Nigeria can prove the mental capability of black race, only Nigeria can show the world the scientific and technological potential of black race.
Just sad so many people keeps defending the useless system

Sad

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Xbursta(m): 9:53am On Apr 14, 2019
Jesse25:
It a very big scam the country it self is not even ready for enginee, our university have no facilities to teach engineering .....I have a diploma in engineering and up till now I can not even figure what I gain in school because they was no practical to what we where be thought in school ...the people I pity most are mechanical engineering student because Nigerian are not ready for one single engineering course talkless of mechanical eng. For me am going to computer science I can't come and waist my time again the only way I can study engineering is when I have the chance to school outside of this country

True i also have diploma in same course after i finish my two years program i felt like wasted my time am applying for DE to study cyber security

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by freemanbubble: 10:01am On Apr 14, 2019
Jesse25:
It a very big scam the country it self is not even ready for enginee, our university have no facilities to teach engineering .....I have a diploma in engineering and up till now I can not even figure what I gain in school because they was no practical to what we where be thought in school ...the people I pity most are mechanical engineering student because Nigerian are not ready for one single engineering course talkless of mechanical eng. For me am going to computer science I can't come and waist my time again the only way I can study engineering is when I have the chance to school outside of this country

Bros i pity you. Nor try am. Nor make that move
Bros am a computer science student in Uniben
Na everyday i take dey dull the more because we are subjected to old programming language such as Pascal and Fortran

My Pascal D
Fortran D
Assembly language F

Bros i don tire
And the worse part be say we go still dey do many maths

No practical

But last las sha i know say i go dey alright because nor be only school person fit take succeed for life

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by deyemia: 10:04am On Apr 14, 2019
I still said this same thing 3 days ago.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by cardoctor(m): 10:04am On Apr 14, 2019
I keep asking the same question. That's why I went solo.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by airminem(f): 10:04am On Apr 14, 2019
Studying in Nigeria is good but have a God father

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by TeeFriz: 10:05am On Apr 14, 2019
Studying thereotical courses in Nigeria is a scam
Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by abayomi27(m): 10:05am On Apr 14, 2019
a huge scam its bro...its either you know someone who is established already or you jaapa to excel as a solo engr.
Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by hischoice(m): 10:06am On Apr 14, 2019
I hate to spoil your mojo but engineering curriculum is same world-wide.

Three, four or five years of university engineering study at undergraduate level is built on the studies of heat transfer and thermodynamics. Every other subject is a derivative of those.

Where the problem lies in Nigeria's specific case are the embedded silly art subjects like Use of English and Philosophy of God's existence (jokes on COREN).

What could have been used in keeping the lads more in Thermo and Engineering Analysis classes, they spend with children of Karl Marx.

And by the way, you will never make sense of engineering until you graduate and start practicing... And that applies to everyone, irrespective of where you studied.

So my take is for the curriculum to be re-jigged to allow
more study of core engineering pricincples. They are theories. Yes, they are supposed to be so. Get grounded in the theories of Lagrange and Echelons, you will find them handy if you ever find yourself in a career involving engineering simulations.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Imstrong2(m): 10:06am On Apr 14, 2019
It's not a scam if at the end of the day you go by the title 'engr' the dream of most parent

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by bluefilm: 10:07am On Apr 14, 2019
Big time scam!!!

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Nobody: 10:08am On Apr 14, 2019
Jesse25:
It a very big scam the country it self is not even ready for enginee, our university have no facilities to teach engineering .....I have a diploma in engineering and up till now I can not even figure what I gain in school because they was no practical to what we where be thought in school ...the people I pity most are mechanical engineering student because Nigerian are not ready for one single engineering course talkless of mechanical eng. For me am going to computer science I can't come and waist my time again the only way I can study engineering is when I have the chance to school outside of this country
Me n you dey the same boat, I started coding immediately I graduated, I regretted ever studying electrical electronics engineering, such a waste of time, planning on how to further in computer science related course.

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by iragbmite: 10:09am On Apr 14, 2019
Education in Nigeria is a scam

I always wondered why the most successful people in Nigeria are foreign educated . . . it is because what we have in Nigeria is not education.

Nigerian engineers dont know shyyt.

True story: Computer science graduates who don't know how to operate a computer. Nigeria I hail oooooo

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Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by Peacemaker5129(f): 10:09am On Apr 14, 2019
MyGeneration:
The worst scam is banking and finance.
How!
Re: Is Studying Engineering In Nigeria A Scam? by madridsta007(m): 10:09am On Apr 14, 2019
Dothraki:
Engineering undergraduates study old theories from Way past generation, that is of little relevance to modern engineering. The university system teach so many calculation, and almost nothing on how to apply these mathematics to solve real life problems.

Many of theories learned aren't useless jargon, since we arent taught how to praticalise most of those knowledge, 99.99% of all engineering graduate would have forgotten what they learned by the time they graduate.
We only remember what is useful to us, what help us get through, or things we do constantly. Everything else, our brain trashes it.

Its quiet disturbing Most of the engineering student only read to pass. Which makes one question, are we in school only to pass some paper? If so, modern technology would not have existed at all.
Our primary purpose of studying engineering is to apply scientific discoveries to solve practical problems in the society. But unfortunately the system only made us to study only for grade.
Without practicing what we learn our brain will eventually discard everything as useless

An average engineering graduate does not remember 90% of what he learned in five years, I tried to go through some of my jottings from 300l, i was suprised because it all seem strange to me.. i couldn't remember a thing from the calculations l did with my own hand. A friend of my who have have a very much good grade have the same experience.

Apart from the abstractions of studying engineering in nigeria, most of the curriculum is old, we spent so much time studying theories that should be thought as a mere history. No wonder there havent been any groundbreaking engineering achievement from Nigerian universities

Majority of the engineering jobs that involve applying engineering maneuver will be given to foreigners. Innoson motor employs foreigners to do All of its engineering design, our Nigerian graduate work as if they are
mere technician. Engineering graduate will never apply most of the theories they learn at school. lot of our graduate who are lucky to find job in engineering companies work as a maintenance engineer. Whenever they need new designs or innovation, they hire foreigners to do the job, this is quite sad in my opinion. They have made mockery of 5 years of lifes. Quite sad

Studying in Nigeria and completely relying on your lecturers, laboratories, etc, is deluding yourself.
Going outside the box in every course is the way to go.
I know graduates of Engineering in Nigeria who are currently working at NASA, Washington D.C. Two brothers from a University in Northern Nigeria.
Anywhere in the world, if you ONLY rely on what you are being taught, you'll probably end up being mediocre. The world is fiercely competitive. If you go outside the box, you wouldn't. The average Nigerian student is extremely lazy. He/she goes on the internet to chat and engage in other frivolities. It is the same internet that gives the hard-working ambitious student, Edx and Coursera free courses, which this hard-working student takes and improves his knowledge of data science and analysis to complement the theories he learns in school.

The ambitious student does not have two heads. The lazy student easily latches onto an excuse, such as describing his/her course of study in Nigeria as a "scam". No sir/ma. It isn't. You are the lazy, scamming student.
It is up to you.

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