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Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 11:16pm On Dec 14, 2007


Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by Nobody: 6:07am On Dec 15, 2007
a fine place indeed, hope to be there someday
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 7:15am On Dec 15, 2007
To your mother fucker info, I am not going to waste my time to convince others how beautiful Nigeria is. We have surpassed that two by four buildings you are so fucking proud of cheesy. We have more than that shit. Whooo the fucking cares about Nairobi on this Forum anyway? You think we are half naked or we've been driven out of the city into the bush or what? You son of a fat ass hole bitch. We don't give a shit to your city. Stop trying hard. I fucking Bleep you all mother fucker hunters. You will never be treated fairly on your own land by the indians and them jack ass white folks forever and ever( TRUTH HURT). You deserve that treatment anyway, because you are a damn hunter. You don't deserve any better than the jungle. I therefore command you to go back to the jungle and kill some lions before you die of starvation. Bleep you hunters. Build your own hunting forum in the jungle and show how your fucking nairobi is to your fellow hunters. In your next post I will fucking translate your fucking national language for you to swallow it through your own ass. I fucking promise you. If you want me to Bleep you in your own mother fucker national language too. I'm ready for it. Bleep you bring it on bitch.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 7:20am On Dec 15, 2007
Nairobi, Is the newly chosen CAPITAL OF JUNGLES. The three wise hunters. what about this ride(maybay) in the jungle to chase some lions

Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 7:24am On Dec 15, 2007
CAPITAL OF JUNGLES AWARD NIGHT PRESENTED BY ZUMBUKUKU the greatest hunter of all time. cool

Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by maasai1(m): 10:01am On Dec 15, 2007
Youre always welcome olrotimi.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by anusule(m): 3:05pm On Dec 15, 2007
the only thing these pictures depict is the cleanliness of the city. its far cleaner than lagos grin. but lagos has taller and beautiful buildings than nairobi. the kenyans are still living an old-school life. see their cars, out-dated. in lagos you dont find people in those sort of cars, jeeps men.! grin
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by DDomex: 9:11pm On Dec 15, 2007
There cannot be a useful argument over this. I am familiar with both, and Nairobi is better than Lagos, any day of the week. The ignorant ones are best ignored to wisen up first.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 10:01pm On Dec 15, 2007
finally some sensible people. to some point i agree with anusule coz nigeria has a much bigger middle class. maasai, ropie mnaishi kenya ama majuu? coz i wish kama naeza pata pics kadhaa
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by maasai1(m): 4:49pm On Dec 17, 2007
Sema africanese niko nai. Ulitaka pics za?
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by anusule(m): 5:06pm On Dec 17, 2007
please shocked can't you write in english? nobody will beat you if you do. grin
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 12:39am On Dec 18, 2007
poa maasai, nilikuwa nataka pics za ile uchumi iko mombasa rd, sarit centre ndani and yaya centre ndani. ukiget time nitafutie hizo pics tafadhali. sawa?
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by maasai1(m): 7:14am On Dec 18, 2007
Ok wil try my best
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 1:39am On Dec 19, 2007








Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by shinystar(m): 3:57am On Dec 22, 2007
So don't we have finer places in Lagos, Calabar and Abuja? wHY CAN'T WE FOR ONCE APPRECIATE OUR POSSESSIONS?

All those who said Kenya is more beautiful had better let go of their Nigerian passports/ We are tired of residents who don't believe or see anything good in the country.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by shoop: 1:48pm On Dec 22, 2007
What's all the hullaballoo in here?
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 5:31am On Dec 24, 2007
This is king IGNORANT. The one and only faithful NIGERIAN on this particular forum. Some of my own brothers have been deceived by these pictures posted by the Tarzans. I made those Tarzans felt sorry for writing in English grin. So, they got smart, by writing in swahilli. Which is a piece of cake for me to translate. Olrotini or whatever asked the other hunter whether he or she lives in kenya. He wanted more of those pictures because he is been in the jungle for a while. Anyway, you all have a merry christmas and a happy new year.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by painkiller: 5:39am On Dec 24, 2007
Hey ignorant. Where have you been? Nice to hear from you. I miss your writings. Thank you for kicking these kenyans out of these forum. I got tired of those pictures. You did a great job. You deserve a good reward. Do you live in Nigeria? let me know, we will be good friends. Have a blesssed christmas and a happy new year. Take care
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by Maury: 10:26am On Dec 24, 2007
World's next outsourcing hub: Kenya? By Rob Crilly
Fri Dec 21, 3:00 AM ET



Nairobi, Kenya - The six clocks on the wall track time zones from the US Pacific seaboard, through the Midwest and across the Atlantic to Britain. Twenty or so computers sit idle, headsets resting on mouse pads waiting for the next shift of call center workers.

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It could be a phone bank anywhere in the world but for the clock on the far right labeled "Kenya."

"People say to me, 'Wow, this is happening in Kenya? We only think of you for athletics and wildlife,' " says Gilda Odera, managing director of Skyweb-Evans in the heart of the capital, Nairobi. "But people are getting really interested in us."

Her call center and a dozen others are seeds of an industry that the government hopes will put the East African country on equal terms with India as an outsourcing destination.

The government is pumping millions of dollars into improving the country's outdated telecom system in an effort to capitalize on Kenya's large pool of English-speaking graduates.

Eventually it wants Kenya to be as well-known for its call centers as its lions, tea, and coffee.

But for now, companies like Skyweb-Evans are limited by shoddy infrastructure and ferociously expensive internet connections.

Ms. Odera employs more than 40 people in two shifts. They mostly dial Canada to collect market research and polling data, but she says it can be a struggle to break even.

"Sometimes we have clients that need more than 20 seats but, because we haven't been able to ramp up, we haven't been able to take the work, even though it was attractive work," says Odera.

That is all about to change. In February, her company will open a 75-seat call center, expanding capacity more than threefold.

New fiber-optic cable
Last week, the Kenyan government signed an agreement with French-US telecom group Alcatel-Lucent for a fiber-optic cable linking the Kenyan port of Mombasa with the United Arab Emirates.

More important, it will connect East Africa to the rest of the world's Internet capacity and replace the slow and costly satellite links that act as a brake on the country's fast developing industry in business process outsourcing (BPO).

At the signing, Bitange Ndemo, permanent secretary at the Ministry of Information and Communications, said the connection would allow more ordinary Kenyans to surf the Internet. But the real driving force behind the deal, he said, was the potential for creating jobs in call centers and the rest of the outsourcing industry.

"A year ago we started pushing ourselves as a BPO center," he said. "But if you look at the price and compare it with our competition, we are simply not competitive."

Typical monthly charges are $7,500 for one megabyte of bandwidth. Elsewhere in the world it costs no more than $400.

"If we can get it below $500 for that megabyte we can make ourselves more competitive," said Mr. Ndemo.

Work on the 3,062-mile East African Marine System (Teams) cable is due to begin early in the new year.

The $82-million cable will run from Fujaira, in the UAE, along the seabed of the Gulf of Oman and down the African coastline to Mombasa. It is expected to bring the cost of connectivity down to about $500 per month immediately on completion in January 2009.

In the meantime, the government will use $9 million from a World Bank loan to subsidize connections and kickstart the industry in the new year.

Two other cables are also being planned.

The much delayed East Africa Submarine Cable System will eventually run along the Indian Ocean coastline, connecting 10 African cities with India and Europe. And a third will run from Europe to South Africa.

Ndemo said the cost will continue to come down as Kenya becomes a hub for East Africa, selling bandwidth to neighbors such as Tanzania, Uganda, and Sudan.

Mark Kobayashi-Hillary, off-shoring director of Britain's National Outsourcing Association, says Kenya is putting itself in a strong position.

"In Kenya – and the East African region – they have quite a good recent history of democracy, so it is a stable region and there are lots of well-educated people," he said. "That's a good start, but what they don't have is the infrastructure and I guess that's the importance of this fiber-optics deal."

A promising future
Research by the London-based business analysis group Datamonitor supports the optimistic outlook.

In a report published last year, the group forecast that Africa would see the fastest growth in the number of call centers for the rest of the decade, and singled out Egypt, Botswana, Ghana, and Kenya for particularly rapid expansion.

Egypt already has a booming outsourcing industry with many Western companies operating there.

Meanwhile, Botswana, Ghana, and Kenya – all former British colonies – have the sort of linguistic skills and education systems that make them well placed for call centers, according to the report.

And signs of a shift in the global pattern emerged earlier this year as several Indian companies began looking to outsource their own outsourcing operations, as rising wages and crumbling infrastructure took their toll.

Across town from Skyweb-Evans, Kencall is the posterboy for Kenya's outsourcing industry.

Kencall employs 500 people in a converted avocado warehouse on an industrial estate close to Nairobi's international airport.

Nicholas Nesbitt, its chief executive, says there is a ready pool of investors looking to enter the Kenyan industry, particularly from South Africa where labor costs are much higher.

"We've had a good three or four very big international call center companies coming through Kenya and kicking the tires," he says.

"As long as we can keep the drumbeat of Kenya as a good and positive place to invest, then when the time comes people will move in."
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by kenyanese: 6:34pm On Dec 24, 2007
Wow, I REALLY DO MISS HOME!!! cry cry cry
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by Maury: 6:52pm On Dec 24, 2007
Nairobi Has Great Personality, But is That Sustainable?

Nairobi voted amongst 200 best cities in the world

Nairobians might be pleasantly surprised to learn that their city has been rated as among the 200 best cities in the world. The list of 200 cities, selected by the staff, authors and readers of the Lonely Planet travel guide, is not scientific or based on any measurable quality of life index, but is based on qualities that are hard to measure, such as a city's "personality" and its "human architecture".

The top five cities on the Lonely Planet list are, not surprisingly, Paris, New York, Sydney, Barcelona and London. But other cities, which one would not normally categorise as "world class", such as Ho Chi Minh City, Kathmandu, Cairo, Mexico City, Zanzibar Town, Havana and Kolkata are also rated highly (all made it to the top 100 best cities list).

THE LONELY PLANET RATINGS differ significantly from other more scientific surveys, such as the William M. Mercer quality-of-life survey that ranks a city's "liveabily" though indicators such as its ability to provide its citizens with clean air, affordable housing, infrastructure, meaningful employment and green parks and spaces. When liveability is taken into account, Canadian and Australian cities, such as Vancouver, Melbourne, Montreal, Perth and Toronto always emerge as the most liveable cities.

African and Asian cities have always struggled to make it to this list because of their large slums, not to mention their crumbling infrastructure. But for the Lonely Planet authors, a city is more than its physical infrastructure. Bangkok rates the highest (ranked 8th) on their list of best Asian cities (despite its pollution and congestion) because of its lively markets, cafes and 24-hour shopping. Singapore, undoubtedly Asia's most "liveable" city, on the other hand, ranks 25th.

What the authors are emphasising is that what makes a city great is not its architecture or its air quality, but its people, its social fabric, its vibrancy, its diversity, its culture and its dynamism. Nairobi, which The Lonely Planet authors dubbed as "The Safari Capital of the World", is rated 135th for its various strengths, including "excellent night spots, the Westlands Triangle Curios Market, a good selection of restaurants and bars and its proximity to Africa's natural wonders".

The city's physical anatomy is described thus: "This young city, with its ultra-modern skyline and few remaining colonial era buildings, spreads from the city centre into the energetic working class suburbs, the wealthy garden suburbs of expats and the notorious sprawl of shantytowns". The typical Nairobian is defined as someone who likes "going out for a drink after work and socialising in cafes, restaurants and clubs, and shopping in malls and markets".

Before Nairobians congratulate themselves for joining the global consumer class, they might want to ponder this: The same authors rate Nairobi poorly for its "poverty, rampant crime, few laundrettes, political instability, ever-present prostitutes and the Aids epidemic".

There is no question that Nairobi ranks among the most unequal cities in the world. The city has gained the unenviable reputation of a being city with one thousand Prados and one million pedestrians.

A recent survey found that most slum residents - at least half the city's population - reside in shacks no bigger than 9 square metres with little or no access to safe water or adequate sanitation.

Despite the dehumanising living conditions, people continue to pour into the slums. Why? Because living in a city means having better employment opportunities. Slum dwellers need the jobs generated by city-based industries and enterprises to survive, and they need affordable housing (currently provided by slums) to be able to compete in a job market where labour is cheap and where rents for better housing are unaffordable.

In every city, including Nairobi, slums are sites of immense opportunity and enterprise, where dreams of escaping poverty are first nurtured. But when the gap between the haves and have-nots becomes unbearably wide, slums can also be the sites of conflict and violence. The economic gains achieved in cities are thus severely hampered by insecurity, resulting in reduced competitiveness and fewer investments.

IN EVERY "WORLD CLASS CITY", including London and New York, which are rated highly in almost every survey, national and local governments made concerted efforts to upgrade slums or to provide subsidies to the urban poor. For instance, when slums began posing a health hazard to London's residents in the late 19th century, the government built low-cost subsidised housing for the working classes who were helping Britain to industrialise.

By the mid 20th century, slums were a thing of the past in Britain and its working classes were among the most heavily subsidised group of people in the Western world. Today London is ranked among the best cities for business, culture, art and innovation.

If Nairobi wants to move up in its ranking as one of the world's best cities, then it too must consciously make an effort to make the city liveable for all its residents, not just those who can afford to shop in its wonderful malls, eat at its trendy restaurants and visit its vibrant night spots.
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Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 10:48pm On Dec 25, 2007
Who the hell cares about this copy and paste shit anyway. Go home and enjoy your christmas.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 3:56am On Dec 26, 2007
south east nine (se9), hhmmm i think i have seen that on SSC. welcome dude
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by naijaway(m): 12:11am On Dec 27, 2007
From the pictures I'll say I'm impressed; I saw many large and cleaner places with good paints. I see kenya being one of a nice state if all of west, east, and south Africa were to combine. Kenya is nice but Nigeria will be the silicon valley of Africa and Nigeria will be poised to be like the most central of Africans in future. I hope our government doesn't slack and allow others in Africa and beyond leave us beyond. When I saw those pics, I could see a Nigerian pic being more better than that and with less other races billboards and investment. We will prosper like the chinese with more trust and respect from other Africans. Regardless of where you are in west, south and east Africa, we are one people that speak different.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 12:59am On Dec 27, 2007
naijaway, nigeria's economic potential is bar none in africa, when it wakes up the rest of africa will wake, i think the problem lies with the leadership. when someone who trully understands nigeria's potential takes power then the country will explode economically. hopefully YAR'ADUA will kick start the economic engine. with the population, oil, money and investiment from the diaspora nigeria is posed to be africa's china
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by ignorant: 4:15am On Dec 27, 2007
Nigeria to be Africa's china?? what the hell is that? change it from china to something better fools before I smash you guys with some nice words, including you my brother naijaway. Don't be deceived by these pictures, there are more slums and filt in nairobi than you think. If you think the whole of nairobi is what they are showing you then you must be very very crazy. If I call you a hunter is because history and contemporary anthropological works allow me to call you that. Wax your eyes my brother those pictures are nothing as compare to what we have in NIGERIA. Ghana shit Kenya shit grin.
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by jayvin01: 4:35am On Dec 27, 2007
ignorant:

Nigeria to be Africa's china?? what the hell is that? change it from china to something better fools before I smash you guys with some nice words, including you my brother naijaway. Don't be deceived by these pictures, there are more slums and filt in nairobi than you think. If you think the whole of nairobi is what they are showing you then you must be very very crazy. If I call you a hunter is because history and contemporary anthropological works allow me to call you that. Wax your eyes my brother those pictures are nothing as compare to what we have in NIGERIA. Ghana shit Kenya shit grin.

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Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by volina(f): 10:12am On Jan 16, 2008
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@ ignorant, i feel u broda, abit jealous? well i think the motive here is not to compete but to bring out the true good nature of our african cities, n correct the tainted image displayed by the international media houses. Howz that we fight when we r supposed to be united, post forth those gooodies of lagos.abuja n others. Personaly i love nigeria though a kenyan. i was not lucky 2 get a naijaboy, n now is 2 late. have never been there but from the movies i watch u guyz u gotta a taste. Be a nyce boy n post those photos,
Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by volina(f): 9:39am On Jan 18, 2008
bishops tower, nairobi

Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by volina(f): 9:49am On Jan 18, 2008
NSSF BUILDING-COMMUNITY, Nairobi

Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by africanese: 12:52am On Jan 23, 2008





THE CITADEL.






in westlands i think



cities can have buildings and cars but what i am about to post i what makes nairobi different from any other city on the planet. THE MATATU


Re: Nairobi Photos (kenya): A Beautiful East African City by volina(f): 10:30am On Jan 23, 2008
@ africanese, good work, those matt zinambamba, vi deadly, will also post more n show this guyz nai is beautiful, meanwhile let me check the lagos skyscrappers

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