Rivers State Nigeria

Capital: Port Harcourt
Size: 11,077 km2
Population: 7.3 Million (2018 estimate)
GDP: $14.1 Billion (2017 official estimate)
GDP per capita PPP: $4500
HDI: 0.542 (2016)
People: Multi ethnic, 3 Major tribes.
Life Expectancy: Male 54.7, female 55.7

Rwanda

Capital: Kigali
Size: 26,338 km2
Population: 12.79 million
GDP: $10.211 billion
GDP Per Capita PPP: $2500
HDI: 0.524
People: Multi ethnic, 2 major tribe
Life Expectancy: Male 66.1, female 69.9

Analysis

Though landlocked and densely populated, Rwanda is a developing country that has undergone rapid industrialisation thanks to successful government policy. Since the early-2000s, Rwanda has witnessed an economic boom improving the living standards of many Rwandans. The Government’s progressive visions have been the catalyst for the fast transforming economy. The President of Rwanda, Paul Kagame, has noted his ambition to make Rwanda the "Singapore of Africa".

Bounded by the Atlantic ocean and having large deposits of hydro carbon, glass and silica sand, Rivers state is one of the most naturally endowed parts of Africa. It produces 50% of Nigeria's crude oil. However from the statistics above, it is clear that life in this very beautiful part of Africa is not better than life in Rwanda which has very little natural resources and land.

It shows again why seperatism in Nigeria is not a bad politics. Nigeria is too large and diverse to cordinate and develope a modern society. Ethnic tensions and religious intolerance contributes to keep the beautiful people of Nigeria down.

The South East of Nigeria which has clamoured for Biafra for years are always reminded that they are landlocked and with little oil. But here is Rwanda, a landlocked African Nation without resources (except its beautiful people) that survived a brutal genocide, gradually draging itself out of poverty without oil.

Think on this today.

Nice.

Wey Rwanda?

Wao nice...im

Why are we comparing?

What is there to be compared? Size, population, GDP??

Ayam not understanding

The land mass of Rwanda is way bigger than Rivers. Rwanda is a country. Rivers is state. I don't get the comparison.

helinues:
What is there to be compared? Size, population, GDP??

Ayam not understanding

well everything. Rivers state has enough oil revenues to be a johanesburg.

In 2018...rivers passed a budget of approximately 2 billion usd while rwanda passed a budget of 2.7 billion usd.

Compare how the 2 entities look...in terms of infrastructure and security

This topic has been on NL some years back and the summary of all opinions reached was that Nigerian states should be truly federal with no inhibitions. That way states like Rivers can achieve its full
potentials.



https://www.nairaland.com/1447940/rivers-state-vs-rwanda-why#18266772

Bede2u:
well everything. Rivers state has enough oil revenues to be a johanesburg.

In 2018...rivers passed a budget of approximately 2 billion usd while rwanda passed a budget of 2.7 billion usd.

Compare how the 2 entities look...in terms of infrastructure and security

What are you saying? What's the population of Rivers, What's their GDP?

amaniro:
The land mass of Rwanda is way bigger than Rivers. Rwanda is a country. Rivers is state. I don't get the comparison.

its not way bigger if u realise that rivers state has access to sea and large oil and gas which rwanda lack.

Rwanda is 2wice rivers in landmas while rivers gets the same amount of money like rwanda. Check the infrastructure.

The point is...an oil-rich entity with sea access vs a resource poor entity without sea access...similar population....yet rwanda is doing better

Bede2u:
its not way bigger if u realise that rivers state has access to sea and large oil and gas which rwanda lack.

Rwanda is 2wice rivers in landmas while rivers gets the same amount of money like rwanda. Check the infrastructure.

The point is...an oil-rich entity with sea access vs a resource poor entity without sea access...similar population....yet rwanda is doing better

Lol you don't still get the point. Rwanda pass rivers in everything. Rivers is a state in a nation. Which makes it limited to doing somethings. How many containers land in their sea port.?? 98% of containers coming to Nigeria land in Oshodi. I think this argument is vague and baseless.

Though I wouldn't support comparing a state with a country, just like comparing Nigeria with California, all the same, restructuring is the way to go. This current system would be very difficult to sustain. Nigeria is too diverse for this kind of system to work. I hope the noise of restructuring can go higher...

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Bede2u:
Analysis

Though landlocked and densely populated, Rwanda is a developing country that has undergone rapid industrialisation thanks to successful government policy. Since the early-2000s, Rwanda has witnessed an economic boom improving the living standards of many Rwandans. The Government’s progressive visions have been the catalyst for the fast transforming economy. The President of Rwanda, Paul Kagame, has noted his ambition to make Rwanda the "Singapore of Africa".

Bounded by the Atlantic ocean and having large deposits of hydro carbon, glass and silica sand, Rivers state is one of the most naturally endowed parts of Africa. It produces 50% of Nigeria's crude oil. However from the statistics above, it is clear that life in this very beautiful part of Africa is not better than life in Rwanda which has very little natural resources and land.

It shows again why seperatism in Nigeria is not a bad politics. Nigeria is too large and diverse to cordinate and develope a modern society. Ethnic tensions and religious intolerance contributes to keep the beautiful people of Nigeria down.

The South East of Nigeria which has clamoured for Biafra for years are always reminded that they are landlocked and with little oil. But here is Rwanda, a landlocked African Nation without resources (except its beautiful people) that survived a brutal genocide, gradually draging itself out of poverty without oil.

Think on this today.

There's actually nothing much to think.
Those with discernment and functional brain knows that being landlocked is not an issue.

How long will one listen to people who absolutely believe that a nation without natural resource will cease to exist?
The rest of Nigeria is apprehensive about Igbos leaving the contraption, hence they use such scare tactics about being landlocked. Halfwits among the Igbos bought into it. Their funeral.

See, no matter which way its viewed, the country cannot exist for much longer. Its horrible past has caught up with it.

Bede2u:
well everything. Rivers state has enough oil revenues to be a johanesburg.

In 2018...rivers passed a budget of approximately 2 billion usd while rwanda passed a budget of 2.7 billion usd.

Compare how the 2 entities look...in terms of infrastructure and security

I think I've learnt one or two from this thread, but note that Rivers State is limited by a lot.

Restructuring would've been our best option, but we all know that those idol States that get free allocations won't allow it see the light of the day. I won't say it's underperforming considering the fact that the GDP you mentioned goes to FG as revenue before sharing is done.

amaniro:



Lol you don't still get the point. Rwanda pass rivers in everything. Rivers is a state in a nation. Which makes it limited to doing somethings. How many containers land in their sea port.?? 98% of containers coming to Nigeria land in Oshodi. I think this argument is vague and baseless.

lol...now u are getting my baseless argument.

HopeAtHand:
This topic has been on NL some years back and the summary of all opinions reached was that Nigerian states should be truly federal with no inhibitions. That way states like Rivers can achieve its full
potentials.



https://www.nairaland.com/1447940/rivers-state-vs-rwanda-why#18266772

oh. Wow...didnt even know this b4 i opened this thread

Will this solve the water scarcity in Enugu ?

Nawa ooo. What are we comparing? State and country

Thanks Bede2u for putting your points forward in an intelligent manner, devoid of ethnic bashing and promoting intellectual discussion.

Bede2u:
Analysis

Though landlocked and densely populated, Rwanda is a developing country that has undergone rapid industrialisation thanks to successful government policy. Since the early-2000s, Rwanda has witnessed an economic boom improving the living standards of many Rwandans. The Government’s progressive visions have been the catalyst for the fast transforming economy. The President of Rwanda, Paul Kagame, has noted his ambition to make Rwanda the "Singapore of Africa".

Bounded by the Atlantic ocean and having large deposits of hydro carbon, glass and silica sand, Rivers state is one of the most naturally endowed parts of Africa. It produces 50% of Nigeria's crude oil. However from the statistics above, it is clear that life in this very beautiful part of Africa is not better than life in Rwanda which has very little natural resources and land.

It shows again why seperatism in Nigeria is not a bad politics. Nigeria is too large and diverse to cordinate and develope a modern society. Ethnic tensions and religious intolerance contributes to keep the beautiful people of Nigeria down.

The South East of Nigeria which has clamoured for Biafra for years are always reminded that they are landlocked and with little oil. But here is Rwanda, a landlocked African Nation without resources (except its beautiful people) that survived a brutal genocide, gradually draging itself out of poverty without oil.

Think on this today.

Comparing Rivers State to Rwanda is kind of baseless.

You can as well compare Nigeria to Rwanda. Nigeria surpasses Rwanda in almost every economic indices. Where quality of living is concerned, we always fall flat.

iornenge81:
Why are we comparing?

The mumu op is making a case why Biafra should be a country. And when he wants to compare Rwanda, he picked a state a SS, why not pick a state in SE.

HarryDuce:
Comparing Rivers State to Rwanda is kind of baseless.

You can as well compare Nigeria to Rwanda. Nigeria surpasses Rwanda in almost every economic indices. Where quality of living is concerned, we always fall flat.

Why do we like to lie in this country. Rivers State with it's allocation should far surpass Rwanda in terms of infrastructural development. It past leaders Odili,Amaechi and the current Governor decided to not use the allocations judiciously.

Bede2u:
well everything. Rivers state has enough oil revenues to be a johanesburg.

In 2018...rivers passed a budget of approximately 2 billion usd while rwanda passed a budget of 2.7 billion usd.

Compare how the 2 entities look...in terms of infrastructure and security

Difference is fantastical corruption. Rwanda might only have 10% wasted due to corruption, while Rivers has 90%.

RuudVanNisteroy:

Why do we like to lie in this country. Rivers State with it's allocation should far surpass Rwanda in terms of infrastructural development. It past leaders Odili,Amaechi and the current Governor decided to not use the allocations judiciously.

Well, what you consider lies is up to you. There is nothing peculiar about what the politicians in Rivers state are doing. It is the same story nation wide - federal and state governments have been robbing the country blind for over half a century. Has Nigeria used her oil wealth sanely? It's a very simple thing.

HarryDuce:
Well, what you consider lies is up to you. There is nothing peculiar about what the politicians in Rivers state are doing. It is the same story nation wide - federal and state governments have been robbing the country blind for over half a century. Has Nigeria used her oil wealth sanely? It's a very simple thing.

Imagine the state of Rwanda if it was run the same way Rivers state has been run since 1999.

Bede2u:
well everything. Rivers state has enough oil revenues to be a johanesburg.

In 2018...rivers passed a budget of approximately 2 billion usd while rwanda passed a budget of 2.7 billion usd.

Compare how the 2 entities look...in terms of infrastructure and security

Give Rivers State their oil to manage n watch them best Rwanda