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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by almayda: 8:29am On May 09, 2019
I swear,Reno will never utter a word on this matter again.
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by LZAA: 8:29am On May 09, 2019
frankmoney:
all this stuff you wrote is mere conspiracy theory
Actually it isn't
There is a reason why MLK is prefered to malcolm x even though malcolm was way better
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Afamed: 8:31am On May 09, 2019
SLAP44:
In the end, Soyinka spoke so many words and ended up saying nothing in response to the issues raised.

Such an evasive character is not worthy of even the readers digest author of the week award.
You will twist his words since it doesn't favour your narrations. Wail on

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Xisnin(m): 8:31am On May 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:
Sincerely speaking, soyinka didn't write anything.

All his 55 pages book is nothing but trash.
Soyinka's works are not for kids.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by goslowgoslow(m): 8:31am On May 09, 2019
SarkinYarki:
over 116 people have won the Nobel prize for literature including Bob Dylan the country musician !!!! so Wole Soyinka should stop disturbing like he is the first and last person to win it ..Its not a that much of a big deal jare
You must be another guy on weed. How is or has Wole Soyinka disturbed you after winning Nobel price?

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Cyberleets: 8:31am On May 09, 2019
handsomebanana:


See ur sef

The man dey mind e business na person call e name enter mata.


And by the way, 116 out 7 billion is a fuckîng big deal

Lol dude am among that 7 billion and I don't write novel so get a life...

When the whole 7 billion decides to start writing novels, then u can start the comparison
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by RTSC: 8:32am On May 09, 2019
aribisala0:


That is a nice way to console one self.

JK Rowling author of Harry Potter is even more widely read and she will never win a Nobel Prize because she is not good enough.

There is no comparison between Soyinka and Achebe. He wrote Plays mainly , just like Shakespeare, though he wrote other works too

Playwrights inhabit a world inaccessible to those whose diet is James Hadley Chase and Jackie Collins

Yes people drink more Coca Cola than Orange juice but that does not make it good or healthy

Shakespeare wrote works like
Macbeth
Merchant of Venice
Julius Caesar
etc

They are HARD WORK to read and study . They are not intellectual popcorn and so we do not expect millions of people to buy them

Wole Soyinka wrote Plays which we also studied at school
e.g Trials of Brother Jero.#
#It is not the sort of work ordinary people read on a plane journey.
He wrote serious philosophical essays whic again, were serious academic works and poetry.
That is why his peers honoured him

What nice way are you talking about?
Achebe's book is read in colleges all over Europe and America.
The same people that awarded the Nobel Prize. How many Soyinka books has that kind of acclaim.?

We have hundreds of Nobel Prize winners whose name the world will no longer remember .

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Magic1: 8:33am On May 09, 2019
BuhariAdvocate:
This useless Rino trying to foment trouble again.its an embarrassment to compare prof soyinka with that half baked achebe .


What did you just say. Be very careful lest...
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by samsam2019: 8:33am On May 09, 2019
SarkinYarki:
over 116 people have won the Nobel prize for literature including Bob Dylan the country musician !!!! so Wole Soyinka should stop disturbing like he is the first and last person to win it ..Its not a that much of a big deal jare
how many don win am from your family or village or even your tribe?



Every sane person knows Nobel is not the measure of greatness but to downplay Soyinka's achievements is insanity from you

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Nobody: 8:34am On May 09, 2019
Xisnin:

Soyinka's works are not for kids.


Kids reads same 55 page book grin cheesy grin
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Wallade(m): 8:34am On May 09, 2019
StOla:
Why do people fail to learn that literature is not about Prose alone.

The 3 genres of literature are Prose(Novel), Drama(Play), and Poetry.

While Soyinka ticks the box in all, Achebe ticks only the Prose box.

While Soyinka is an acclaimed Playwright and Poet, Achebe is an acclaimed Novelist.

Soyinka won the Nobel for the dual reason of Drama and Poetry, and this much reason was stated in his award justification, as the reason for all other awardees are stated.




So why are people comparing an apple to an orange when the award for best fruit was given to an orange on the basis that for that years consideration, the sweetest orange was the decider?

Can we/you just communicate this opinion to Reno Omokri to educate him and make him understand the need not to conclude on what he doesn't understand.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by FortuneDeGreat(m): 8:36am On May 09, 2019
BuhariAdvocate:
This useless Rino trying to foment trouble again.its an embarrassment to compare prof soyinka with that half baked achebe .
You call Prof. Achebe half baked? I wonder for you and your god buhari even made it to the baking pan talk more of even entering the oven. grin grin grin

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by bamasite(m): 8:37am On May 09, 2019
How dare you call Achebe half baked?

Please show respect
BuhariAdvocate:
This useless Rino trying to foment trouble again.its an embarrassment to compare prof soyinka with that half baked achebe .
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by crazysam001: 8:37am On May 09, 2019
SLAP44:
In the end, Soyinka spoke so many words and ended up saying nothing in response to the issues raised.

Such an evasive character is not worthy of even the readers digest author of the week award.

The essence of writing is to communicate not flaunt a style, there I have always had a problem with his works in relation to Achebe or even Ekwensi

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by fuke(m): 8:37am On May 09, 2019
SLAP44:
In the end, Soyinka spoke so many words and ended up saying nothing in response to the issues raised.

Such an evasive character is not worthy of even the readers digest author of the week award.

Did they teach you English in school?
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by almayda: 8:37am On May 09, 2019
Those who understand literature gave it to Wole Soyinka, I'm sure they must have read these men's books,Reno that is deficient in literature wouldn't have understood the criteria used to select who the Noble peace prize for literature winner should be.I guess he thought the process was conducted in Abeokuta...never allow your emotions work without the benefit of your interllect.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Xisnin(m): 8:38am On May 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:



Kids reads same 55 page book grin cheesy grin
A kid's brain is not fully developed so is some adult's.
Soyinka's works are not recommended for either to avoid concussion.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by benji93: 8:39am On May 09, 2019
My thoughts exactly. The Nobel Prize is an award by the academia to the academia not to the most popular. Their assessment of a work does not necessarily include popularity or simplicity. These guys might as well inaugurate an award for the most popular works. I don't understand how anyone would critique a process, despite not knowing how the process actually works.
aribisala0:
Jackie Collins is even more popular but no where as popular as the author of Harry Potter Series

SO CLEARLY

The Nobel Prize is NOT a popularity contest. It is an award by academics to their peers. A scholastic award which us mere mortals do not often understand. How many times is it that many people hear the name of a Nobel prize author the first when he wins the prize but would have heard of Jackie Collins, Jeffery Archer, Robert Ludlum and So om?

Wole Soyinka gained acclaim as a Playwright and Essayist not a novelist though he wrote novels too.
Wole Soyinka is a thinker not a writer of literary popcorn. The Man died was not written for enjoyment or entertainment . It is a serious work requiring the reader to exert themselves.

It is clear you have no idea what you are talking about if you need to compare Soyinka and Achebe.

They did not operate in the same Arena.
Wole Soyinka was more involved with THEATRE.
He wrote plays. He directed them and acted in them He was involved with a theatre company and I believe put up a performance on Independence day 1960.

So I do not see how their paths cross for any comparison.

Soyinka covered the entire spectrum of Literature.
Poetry, Novel, and Theatre written and practice.

The truth is that Achebe wrote novels and some poetry which was mostly pedestrian and populist stuff and not particularly like to impress his academic peers.
As far as novels go I think Ben Okri is way better

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by BluntBoy(m): 8:41am On May 09, 2019
SLAP44:
In the end, Soyinka spoke so many words and ended up saying nothing in response to the issues raised.

Such an evasive character is not worthy of even the readers digest author of the week award.

You think everyone is as childish as you and Reno?

What issue did Reno raise? So, because Reno could not get into any of Soyinka's work, then it means Achebe was better?

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Wallade(m): 8:41am On May 09, 2019
I wish we can all understand that the areas of specialization in literature for Woke Soyinka and Chinua Achebe differs.

That will guide our assessment of both exceptional men.
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by israelmao(m): 8:42am On May 09, 2019
For clear reading for weak sight:"Chinua is entitled to better than being escorted to his grave with that monotonous hypocritical era of deprivation's lament orchestrated by those who,as we say in my part of the world,"Dye their mourning weeds in deeper indigo than those of the bereaved".He deserves his peace.Me too.And right now not posthumously. "-RIP to the great one.

I have earlier on tweeted that, Wole Soyinka is unique and creative in his own way as well as Chinua Achebe.Wole Soyinka is philosophical and renowned for hard sentences which take a highly intellectual and deeper thinker to dissolve and absorb while Chinua Achebe was known for simplicity of expression and a master storyteller and you know many people love a sweet storyteller.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by aribisala0(m): 8:44am On May 09, 2019
RTSC:

What nice way are you talking about?
Achebe's book is read in colleges all over Europe and America.
The same people that awarded the Nobel Prize. How many Soyinka books has that kind of acclaim.?

We have hundreds of Nobel Prize winners whose name the world will no longer remember .

Whether they read Achebe's book in heaven is not the issue.


It is clear that you are ignorant and do not read.

Wole Soyinka is majorly a playwright. How many of his "books" are read in Colleges IN NIGERIA very few . So what?
How many people whose books are read in colleges in America win the Nobel Prize and HOW is it acclaim? If the subject matter is African literature or African studies what would they read, James Hadley Chase?

Wole Soyinka wrote plays that were performed at the National Theatre in London. That is acclaim. Wole Soyinka himself in his youth was an actor and theatre director and got wide acclaim for this so I really do not know why all this compensatory bitterness is neccesary.


That is not the point which seems to elude you. It is clear YOU do not read and have no understanding of the issues.

So you seek to console your self with this acclaim nonsense.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by Nobody: 8:44am On May 09, 2019
WISDOM IS MUCH DESIRABLE THAN COMMON SENSE.UNFORTUNATELY OMOKRI IS DEPRIVED OF THE TWO.

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by benji93: 8:44am On May 09, 2019
The question is who are communicating to. While some academicians endeavour to communicate information directly to the world, others only communicate to their peers. You may dislike his work for not being universal, but that does not reduce it's quality. If there was an award for universality of a literary work, achebe could have won it. Unfortunately, the Nobel prize by design doesn ot fit such a category.
crazysam001:


The essence of writing is to communicate not flaunt a style, there I have always had a problem with his works in relation to Achebe or even Ekwensi

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by nams77: 8:45am On May 09, 2019
preacherz:
Soyinka didn't support GEJ

shekina.

bruva Reno. let's just Forgive and forget.
And I guess chinua Achebe supported gej?
Reno was absolutely right but he ought not to have said it.
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by genabc(m): 8:45am On May 09, 2019
Osagyefo98:
Sincerely speaking, soyinka didn't write anything.

All his 55 pages book is nothing but trash.

I've read their works, they are great orators and a big blessing to Africa literature. However, Achebe's work is meant for the commoners, an average reader who doesn't av in-dept knowledge of literary appreciation while Prof. Soyinka work is for the elite, you have to go to a great length to decipher it, and that's the beauty of literature. Mind u, Literature comprises of poetry, drama and prose.

How many of his work have you read?

Keffi's Birthday Treat (1954)
The Invention (1957)
The Swamp Dwellers (1958)
A Quality of Violence (1959)[71]
The Lion and the Jewel (1959)
The Trials of Brother Jero
A Dance of the Forests (1960)
My Father's Burden (1960)
The Strong Breed (1964)
Before the Blackout (1964)
Kongi's Harvest (1964)
The Road (1965)
Madmen and Specialists (1970)
The Bacchae of Euripides (1973)
Camwood on the Leaves (1973)
Jero's Metamorphosis (1973)
Death and the King's Horseman (1975)
Opera Wonyosi (1977)
Requiem for a Futurologist (1983)
Sixty-Six (short piece) (1984)[72]
A Play of Giants (1984)
Childe Internationale (1987)[73][74]
From Zia with Love (1992)
The Detainee (radio play)
A Scourge of Hyacinths (radio play)
The Beatification of Area Boy (1996)
Document of Identity (radio play, 1999)
King Baabu (2001)
Etiki Revu Wetin
Alapata Apata (2011)

Novels

The Interpreters (1964)
Season of Anomy (1972)

Short stories

A Tale of Two (1958)
Egbe's Sworn Enemy (1960)
Madame Etienne's Establishment (1960)

Memoirs

The Man Died: Prison Notes (1971)
Aké: The Years of Childhood (1981)
Ibadan: The Penkelemes Years: a memoir 1946-65 (1989)
Isara: A Voyage around Essay (1990)
You Must Set Forth at Dawn (2006)

Poetry collections

Telephone Conversation (1963) (appeared in Modern Poetry in Africa)
Idanre and other poems (1967)
A Big Airplane Crashed Into The Earth (original title Poems from Prison) (1969)
A Shuttle in the Crypt (1971)
Ogun Abibiman (1976)
Mandela's Earth and other poems (1988)
Early Poems (1997)
Samarkand and Other Markets I Have Known (2002)

Essays

Towards a True Theater (1962)
Culture in Transition (1963)
Neo-Tarzanism: The Poetics of Pseudo-Transition
A Voice That Would Not Be Silenced
Art, Dialogue, and Outrage: Essays on Literature and Culture (1988)
From Drama and the African World View (1976)
Myth, Literature, and the African World (1976)[75]
The Blackman and the Veil (1990)[76]
The Credo of Being and Nothingness (1991)
The Burden of Memory – The Muse of Forgiveness (1999)
A Climate of Fear (the BBC Reith Lectures 2004, audio and transcripts)
New Imperialism (2009)[77]
Of Africa (2012)[78][79]

Movies

Kongi's Harvest
Culture in Transition
Blues for a Prodigal

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by frankmoney(m): 8:46am On May 09, 2019
LZAA:

Actually it isn't
There is a reason why MLK is prefered to malcolm x even though malcolm was way better
it is , why MLK is better is because of malcom's initial approach with the nation of Islam , after he left them , he became more like MLK

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by autonomous22: 8:46am On May 09, 2019
Reno go understand the English at all....
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by joshkke(m): 8:47am On May 09, 2019
Good points, with one small correction. Achebe also wrote Poetry. "Beware Soul Brother" and another volume the name of which I have forgotten. Also, in "There was a country" Achebe often interspaced the Prose with Poetry.

While Reno has a right to his opinion, I think he was remiss in calling out Soyinka in quite that way. I like Achebe, I also like Soyinka, and while the Nobel is a good thing, his winning it does not define Soyinka. His body of works does. It is in the same way not winning it does not define the late sage, Achebe.


StOla:
Why do people fail to learn that literature is not about Prose alone.

The 3 genres of literature are Prose(Novel), Drama(Play), and Poetry.

While Soyinka ticks the box in all, Achebe ticks only the Prose box.

While Soyinka is an acclaimed Playwright and Poet, Achebe is an acclaimed Novelist.

Soyinka won the Nobel for the dual reason of Drama and Poetry, and this much reason was stated in his award justification, as the reason for all other awardees are stated.




So why are people comparing an apple to an orange when the award for best fruit was given to an orange on the basis that for that years consideration, the sweetest orange was the decider?

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Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by blowjohn(m): 8:47am On May 09, 2019
T9ksy:




Abi o jare!!!


The poor guy is a lost cause and thus beyond any iota of aid.


People like u are among those who attended grammar schools and comprehensive schools.
Yet u can't comprehend the English grammar.
Nonsense!
Re: Wole Soyinka Replies Reno Omokri Over Chinua Achebe Being Better Than Him by perpeling22(f): 8:47am On May 09, 2019
I just went back to read his reply again, I think he gave the best respond. He honoured the great Achebe and at the same time advised Reno not to cry more than the bereaved

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