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The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 7:00am On May 12
Yes the church is dead with respect the church being the salt of the Earth, and the life of the salt is in its savor.

For Jesus said to the church:

Matthew 5:13 (KJV)

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

So from this saying of Jesus, it could be deduced the fact that the church which is the salt of the Earth could lose its savor.

And when it loses it savor it hence becomes good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden under the foot of men.

So for salt to be good for nothing and useless to that extent when it loses it savor, it means that savor is the life of the salt, so when salt loses it savor it has lost its life, and what remains of the salt is just its dead body, which is good for nothing.

And considering the functions of salt that make the church to be the salt of the Earth, which is to preserve, heal, nourish, give taste, cleanse etc., it is well obvious that the church which is the salt of the Earth has lost its savor, as it is no longer able to serve its purposes as the salt of the Earth.

So what is left of the church is just the dead body which is good for nothing, but to be trodden under the feet of men, as is the case where the church has become a laughing stock to men. For despite that they can see it just about everywhere they go, it has become good for nothing to them as it is not able to serve its purpose in their lives.

But the good news for the church is that the savour of the church that makes it to be the salt of the Earth, even that which it lost, is yet on the Earth. For it is the Spirit of God.

For He is the life of the church and the one that gave it the savour to be the salt of the Earth, that it was, and hence able to serve its purpose as the salt of the Earth. Therefore it was said:

Acts 1:4, 8 (KJV)

4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

So it was the Spirit of God that was going to give the church life, and make it possible for the church to be able to serve its purpose as the salt of the Earth that it was, hence the need for the church not to depart from Jerusalem but to wait until the Spirit of God had come upon her. Hence it was said:

Acts 2:1-4 (KJV)

1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

And hence the Spirit of God brought the church to life, and gave it the ability to serve its purpose as the salt of the Earth, as could be observed in the book of Acts.

So that's what the church has lost today, that has made her to be without savour, and hence good for nothing but to cast down and trodden under the feet of men.

Therefore for the church to come back to life and be able to serve its purpose as the salt of the Earth, it must do everything possible to get its savour back in the person of the Holy Spirit, otherwise it would remain good for nothing but to be trodden under the feet of men, even though its dead body is littered everywhere to be seen of men.
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 7:01am On May 13
Lost its savor
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 1:35pm On May 14
Tasteless!
Re: The Church Is Dead by LordReed(m): 2:00pm On May 14
jesusjnr:
Tasteless!

Like you.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by sonmvayina(m): 2:01pm On May 14
It was and never been alive, when it worships a dead man as God......

What idolatry... God forbids
Re: The Church Is Dead by Dtruthspeaker: 6:34pm On May 14
sonmvayina:
It was and never been alive, when it worships a dead man as God......

What idolatry... God forbids

Antichrist! No one called you here. Be away

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Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 6:38pm On May 14
No, you are dead. ' Upon this Rock, I shall build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it
If Jesus can die again, then the Church can die

Your true self is coming out Jesusjnr.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 6:39pm On May 14
Dtruthspeaker:

Antichrist! No one called you here. Be away
Just ignore that one.
Re: The Church Is Dead by Dtruthspeaker: 6:42pm On May 14
I have taken notice of you op. Why do you love stirrings? What profit thee or what is thy praise? I would have said some more but I think it right to chastise a friend in private.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 10:45pm On May 14
Shepherd00:
No, you are dead. ' Upon this Rock, I shall build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it
If Jesus can die again, then the Church can die

Your true self is coming out Jesusjnr.
If you had apologized to Michelle for the lies you were spreading concerning her, you would proven that you're not just a gentleman but a christian with some credibility at least.

You were clearly in error, but when you discovered instead of humbling yourself and doing the right thing, you started saying something else.

You have serious personal issues to worry about than myself, for if you cannot humble yourself and apologize when you're clearly in the wrong for false witnessing, what message could you possibly have to bring to others?

The reason I reacted to you that way when I was in the heat of the moment with hard mirror and the other atheists, was because what you did was so unwarranted, I mean couldn't it wait for another moment?

At least what I said to you was what Jesus said to Peter, so if that made me to be a bad person then what about Jesus?

Can the church lose its savor as the salt of the Earth?

If yes, then what did Jesus say about salt that loses it savor?

The church that Jesus built upon the rock, can never lose its savor, because it was founded upon a rock, so if there be a church that could lose its savor, that means that it was not built upon the rock as that of Jesus.
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 10:55pm On May 14
Dtruthspeaker:
I have taken notice of you op. Why do you love stirrings? What profit thee or what is thy praise? I would have said some more but I think it right to chastise a friend in private.
Well that should keep your quite busy since you have nothing else to do.

So I'm your friend, never knew that.

You sound familiar, and i think I know who you really are. wink
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 11:03pm On May 14
sonmvayina:
It was and never been alive, when it worships a dead man as God......

What idolatry... God forbids
Well, better to be that dead man, than to be you.

The church was once alive when it had savor, but it lost its savor and is now dead.

But fast and pray to Satan your god and master that the church doesn't resurrect from the dead and gets its savor back, because it would be better imagined than experienced by your master.

#satanist
Re: The Church Is Dead by ichuka(m): 11:13pm On May 14
The church can never die.because she is the Spirit of God in every Christain.
In Gods view the church knows no sin and can never sin.
Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 11:23pm On May 14
jesusjnr:

If you had apologized to Michelle for the lies you were spreading concerning her, you would proven that you're not just a gentleman but a christian with some credibility at least.
Which lie did I spread? Did I accuse anyone of theft or any crime? No. Did I say he is you? Yes. And I still stand by it. Maybe you don't know that it's hard to sound differently from your alter ego.
it shows.

jesusjnr:

You were clearly in error, but when you discovered instead of humbling yourself and doing the right thing, you started saying something else.
I was in what error? Listen, man, it is not wrong to have an altarego, but to split them and talk and respond to yourself' is laughable.

jesusjnr:

You have serious personal issues to worry about than myself, for if you cannot humble yourself and apologize when you're clearly in the wrong for false witnessing, what message could you possibly have to bring to others?
You know nothing abt humility. You are the must arrogant individual I ve met in this platform who claims to be Christian. You are proud and haughty, No one can correct you. Anyone who disagrees with you, you insult and label satan. You preach absurdities, yet, no one shd say anything. Apart from your Michelle, who else do you agree with here?
And, I have nothing to apologize for for. You are Michelle.

jesusjnr:

The reason I reacted to you that way when I was in the heat of the moment with hard mirror and the other atheists, was because what you did was so unwarranted, I mean couldn't it wait for another moment?
You have the right to react anyhow you want. I can't even remember what you said.
jesusjnr:

At least what I said to you was what Jesus said to Peter, so if that made me to be a bad person then what about Jesus?
Can the church lose its savor as the salt of the Earth?
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And, Jesus never said to Peter 'Get behind me Satan'.

The Lord sees what no man can see. He knew satan was trying to use Peter against Him. He told Peter that satan was desiring to sift him like wheat, but that He had prayed for him. He knew that Satan was using Peters tongue, hence he rebuked satan behind the scene, not Peter.

So, if you call people who try to correct you satan on this basis, then you are wrong.

No one knows it all, we learn from each other. If am wrong and you call me to order, I may not like your tone or the manner you did it, but as a Christian I shd not tag evil. I can disagree, but must retrieve and check my stance again.

[quote author=jesusjnr post=78396241]
If yes, then what did Jesus say about salt that loses it savor?

jesusjnr:

He said it shd be thrown away and men will walk over it. But, who in this context is this salt?

[quote author=jesusjnr post=78396241]
The church that Jesus built upon the rock, can never lose its savor, because it was founded upon a rock, so if there be a church that could lose its sav poloor, that means that it was not built upon the rock as that of Jesus.
The Church of Jesus Christ has no name. It's not a particular denomination. It's a City wirhout Walls. It's a Kingdom and the only people in it are those who are Born Again, Regenerate and Baptized by water and by fire. We, as individuals are Churches in a smallest form while we belong the larger form when we meet together.

So long as there are still five genuine believers in Christ on Earth, then the Church is here and alive. These five believers can be scattered in different denominations.

So, the salt of Jesus is very much in effect in the Church on earth. Let satan fight and plant errors, he has been trying from Adam, and he has been failing. Only those who will follow him, will follow him.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 11:55pm On May 14
Shepherd00:

Which lie did I spread? Did I accuse anyone of theft or any crime? No. Did I say he is you? Yes. And I still stand by it. Maybe you don't know that it's hard to sound differently from your alter ego.
it shows.


I was in what error? Listen, man, it is not wrong to have an altarego, but to split them and talk and respond to yourself' is laughable.


You know nothing abt humility. You are the must arrogant individual I ve met in this platform who claims to be Christian. You are proud and haughty, No one can correct you. Anyone who disagrees with you, you insult and label satan. You preach absurdities, yet, no one shd say anything. Apart from your Michelle, who else do you agree with here?
And, I have nothing to apologize for for. You are Michelle.


You have the right to react anyhow you want. I can't even remember what you said.
OK if you're so sure that she's my alter ego, prove it by placing a curse on yourself here that you shouldn't see tomorrow if she's not, and same curse on me if she truly is my alter ego?

If you don't then you've proven me right, and should hence offer an apology immediately to Michelle as righteous Christians who do same should.

Otherwise you have no right to allege something malicious as such against someone which you're able to stake your life on.

So until you do that you are just an empty spiritual drum making noise here In the guise of Christianity, and hence only worthy of my silence.
Re: The Church Is Dead by LordReed(m): 12:09am On May 15
jesusjnr:
If you had apologized to Michelle for the lies you were spreading concerning her, you would proven that you're not just a gentleman but a christian with some credibility at least.

You were clearly in error, but when you discovered instead of humbling yourself and doing the right thing, you started saying something else.

You have serious personal issues to worry about than myself, for if you cannot humble yourself and apologize when you're clearly in the wrong for false witnessing, what message could you possibly have to bring to others?

The reason I reacted to you that way when I was in the heat of the moment with hard mirror and the other atheists, was because what you did was so unwarranted, I mean couldn't it wait for another moment?

At least what I said to you was what Jesus said to Peter, so if that made me to be a bad person then what about Jesus?

Can the church lose its savor as the salt of the Earth?

If yes, then what did Jesus say about salt that loses it savor?

The church that Jesus built upon the rock, can never lose its savor, because it was founded upon a rock, so if there be a church that could lose its savor, that means that it was not built upon the rock as that of Jesus.

Like you apologized for falsely accusing me right? Hypocrite.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 9:52am On May 15
LordReed:


Like you apologized for falsely accusing me right? Hypocrite.
Lol!

Coming from someone who had also alleged that I was michellekabod2 in her conversion thread(remember the detective Hahn conspiracy) but didn't apologize after he found out it was only a false accusation.

So apologies for my inability to also call you a hypocrite, for could such a word possibly apply to an atheist?

But even with respect to apologies, that accusation can't hold water, for I've proven severally on this platform that It is a small thing for me if I sincerely feel I've done something wrong against someone here.

For I even apologized to you guys(especially sabrina) for that malicious thread I opened, and also modified the particular post as a result.

And also went to Sabrina's thread on atheist prayer to personally tender my apology to her despite knowing the kind of abuse and mockery it could attract.

And you very well know all these so that your tag of "hypocrite" doesn't apply to me at all to that extent.

But if it's with regards to those female monikers I accused you of opening, can you challenge me the way I challenged that shepherd guy if at least one of those monikers(especially jujusugar which has bit the dust ever since I exposed you) is not yours?

Because I'm ready to take that challenge, maybe you can immediately get the proof of God's existence you've been asking for all these while.

But by the way you are attacking me on this thread, it seems it's actually for something else beyond that, I suppose Michelle, that you have come to settle scores with me.

Let me tell you something you may not know, see that lady has one of the most beautiful souls I have ever come across since I was born, so I wasn't going to allow such extent of her spiritual potential to slide without a fight, for she's hence worth all the effort.

That said though i must commend you for the way you treated her even after she left atheism, for maybe just maybe you showed that all hope's not lost in your respect.

Thanks and God bless. cheesy
Re: The Church Is Dead by LordReed(m): 10:15am On May 15
jesusjnr:
Lol!

Coming from someone who had also alleged that I was michellekabod2 in her conversion thread(remember the detective Hahn conspiracy) but didn't apologize after he found out it was only a false accusation.

So apologies for my inability to also call you a hypocrite, for could such a word possibly apply to an atheist?

But even with respect to apologies, that accusation can't hold water, for I've proven severally on this platform that It is a small thing for me if I sincerely feel I've done something wrong against someone here.

For I even apologized to you guys(especially sabrina) for that malicious thread I opened, and also modified the particular post as a result.

And also went to Sabrina's thread on atheist prayer to personally tender my apology to her despite knowing the kind of abuse and mockery it could attract.

And you very well know all these so that your tag of "hypocrite" doesn't apply to me at all to that extent.

But if it's with regards to those female monikers I accused you of opening, can you challenge me the way I challenged that shepherd guy if at least one of those monikers(especially jujusugar which has bit the dust ever since I exposed you) is not yours?

Because I'm ready to take that challenge, maybe you can immediately get the proof of God's existence you've been asking for all these while.

But by the way you are attacking me on this thread, it seems it's actually for something else beyond that, I suppose Michelle, that you have come to settle scores with me.

Let me tell you something you may not know, see that lady has one of the most beautiful souls I have ever come across since I was born, so I wasn't going to allow such extent of her spiritual potential to slide without a fight, for she's hence worth all the effort.

That said though i must commend you for the way you treated her even after she left atheism, for maybe just maybe you showed that all hope's not lost in your respect.

Thanks and God bless. cheesy

Very good. I hereby tender unreserved apology for saying you created the Michellekabod2 account in other to fellate yourself.

Now I challenge you to prove that I created any other moniker other than LordReed2nd to post anywhere on Nairaland. If you cannot prove so then you must similarly tender an unreserved apology to me.

Fight for Michelle? Don't make me laugh. Your actions forced her to delete her account so you are fighting yourself.
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 10:34am On May 15
LordReed:


Very good. I hereby tender unreserved apology for saying you created the Michellekabod2 account in other to fellate yourself.

Now I challenge you to prove that I created any other moniker other than LordReed2nd to post anywhere on Nairaland. If you cannot prove so then you must similarly tender an unreserved apology to me.

Fight for Michelle? Don't make me laugh. Your actions forced her to delete her account so you are fighting yourself.
Okay even i accept your apology, and just let it slide, and If you didn't create such alleged accounts please accept my apology for saying you did.

As for Michelle, to say I was shocked would be a huge understatement, for it really saddened and pained me that she had to delete her account because of me, even though It wasn't the intentions for my actions.

For I was concerned about the ideas that she was putting into your heads with some of her actions and comments here, that would make you guys assume just about anything concerning me, hence I just wanted her to state precisely what I had done to her so that it would be clear, and not left to your imaginations to determine whatever it possibly could.

But it appears I pushed too hard in the process, as tempers flared up, so please also accept my apologies for that, for trust me I never wanted that to happen.

Peace.
Re: The Church Is Dead by LordReed(m): 10:51am On May 15
jesusjnr:
Okay even i accept your apology, and just let it slide, and If you didn't create such alleged accounts please accept my apology for saying you did.

As for Michelle, to say I was shocked would be a huge understatement, for it really saddened and pained me that she had to delete her account because of me, even though It wasn't the intentions for my actions.

For I was concerned about the ideas that she was putting into your heads with some of her actions and comments here, that would make you guys assume just about anything concerning me, hence I just wanted her to state precisely what I had done to her so that it would be clear, and not left to your imaginations to determine whatever it possibly could.

But it appears I pushed too hard in the process, as tempers flared up, so please also accept my apologies for that, for trust me I never wanted that to happen.

Peace.

Apology accepted, go and sin no more. LoL!

As for if Michelle inspired in me any wrong thought about you in me, it never even came to my attention you had a spat with her until I saw the thread leading up to her deleting her account so I have no idea what brought it on aside from that conversation I saw.
Re: The Church Is Dead by orisa37: 10:54am On May 15
No. Until The Taskmaster stops firing.
Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 11:52am On May 15
jesusjnr:

OK if you're so sure that she's my alter ego, prove it by placing a curse on yourself here that you shouldn't see tomorrow if she's not, and same curse on me if she truly is my alter ego?
I wonder what kind of a Christian you are. I shd place a curse on myself. lol. See? When the Lord Jesus told His disciples to be careful of false Prophets, they asked him how they can recognize the false prophets, He told them to look at their fruits.

You are bearing negative fruits here Jnr. No follower of Jesus will place a curse on anyone not to talk of themselves. Didn't Jesus say 'Bless don't Curse?'. Where did you get this from if not from satan?

Besides, it's you who needs proving that you are not Michelle not me. And, whether or not you are Michelle, how does that affect me?

You dey craze?
jesusjnr:

If you don't then you've proven me right, and should hence offer an apology immediately to Michelle as righteous Christians who do same should.
Go to hell. Jnr, do you know that Pride is the Chief of evil Spirits, just like Love is the Holy Spirit?

Again, go to hell.
jesusjnr:

Otherwise you have no right to allege something malicious as such against someone which you're able to stake your life on.
What is malicious about having an alter ego?
Why will mistake my life on a deadbeat fellow like you?
jesusjnr:

So until you do that you are just an empty spiritual drum making noise here In the guise of Christianity, and hence only worthy of my silence.
You believe you are someone special whom I will need to talk to? Look around you boy, you are chaff in the wind.

Your pride will destroy you Michelle.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 11:59am On May 15
ichuka:
The church can never die.because she is the Spirit of God in every Christain.
In Gods view the church knows no sin and can never sin.
Don't mind the dead man who claims he is a Christian. A Couple Christian who doesn't know what the Church is.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 11:59am On May 15
jesusjnr:
Well, better to be that dead man, than to be you.

The church was once alive when it had savor, but it lost its savor and is now dead.

But fast and pray to Satan your god and master that the church doesn't resurrect from the dead and gets its savor back, because it would be better imagined than experienced by your master.

#satanist
He is your bedfellow.

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Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 12:26pm On May 15
Let me leave the dead with their dead.

At least you've proven that you are just a lying corpse that has absolutely no case against me worth staking your life on, spiritually dead one.

Leave your advice for your fellow dead ones for only your fellow dead ones can find it useful.

Rest in pieces!

p.s. lordreed should also be another of my moniker, or lordreed knows better than dead=0 shepherd of dead=0 sheep.
Shepherd00:

I wonder what kind of a Christian you are. I shd place a curse on myself. lol. See? When the Lord Jesus told His disciples to be careful of false Prophets, they asked him how they can recognize the false prophets, He told them to look at their fruits.

You are bearing negative fruits here Jnr. No follower of Jesus will place a curse on anyone not to talk of themselves. Didn't Jesus say 'Bless don't Curse?'. Where did you get this from if not from satan?

Besides, it's you who needs proving that you are not Michelle not me. And, whether or not you are Michelle, how does that affect me?

You dey craze?

Go to hell. Jnr, do you know that Pride is the Chief of evil Spirits, just like Love is the Holy Spirit?

Again, go to hell.

What is malicious about having an alter ego?
Why will mistake my life on a deadbeat fellow like you?

You believe you are someone special whom I will need to talk to? Look around you boy, you are chaff in the wind.

Your pride will destroy you Michelle.


Re: The Church Is Dead by sonmvayina(m): 12:59pm On May 15
Dtruthspeaker:


Antichrist! No one called you here. Be away

You are anti oromila.... Aren't you?
Re: The Church Is Dead by sonmvayina(m): 1:02pm On May 15
jesusjnr:
Well, better to be that dead man, than to be you.

The church was once alive when it had savor, but it lost its savor and is now dead.

But fast and pray to Satan your god and master that the church doesn't resurrect from the dead and gets its savor back, because it would be better imagined than experienced by your master.

#satanist

Who say make you take 4 tablets? No be only 2 dem say make you take...
Do you really have a brain at all?

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Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 1:06pm On May 15
LordReed:


Apology accepted
OK thanks.
LordReed:


go and sin no more. LoL!
If you do the same, I'd say a big amen, Lol!

LordReed:


As for if Michelle inspired in me any wrong thought about you in me, it never even came to my attention you had a spat with her until I saw the thread leading up to her deleting her account so I have no idea what brought it on aside from that conversation I saw.
I know that you had tracked her posts to get this knowledge, but I was talking of beforehand, but nonetheless e pain me well well, I no go lie you, for I didn't see that one coming.

But her other moniker is still here in case she still want to express herself on NL though.

Thanks.
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 1:09pm On May 15
sonmvayina:


Who say make you take 4 tablets? No be only 2 dem say make you take...
Do you really have a brain at all?
You wey get brain, Lol!

A dead man is still better than you! grin

#satanist
Re: The Church Is Dead by Shepherd00: 1:32pm On May 15
jesusjnr:
Let me leave the dead with their dead.

At least you've proven that you are just a lying corpse that has absolutely no case against me worth staking your life on, spiritually dead one.

Leave your advice for your fellow dead ones for only your fellow dead ones can find it useful.

Rest in pieces!

p.s. lordreed should also be another of my moniker, or lordreed knows better than dead=0 shepherd of dead=0 sheep.
geeeerrrreeeooouuuut

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Re: The Church Is Dead by LordReed(m): 1:57pm On May 15
jesusjnr:

I know that you had tracked her posts to get this knowledge, but I was talking of beforehand,

Nope, I had not tracked her posts. I was already following that thread before she even replied you in it.
Re: The Church Is Dead by jesusjnr(m): 2:07pm On May 15
LordReed:


Nope, I had not tracked her posts. I was already following that thread before she even replied you in it.
OK.

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