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Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Smartwave: 10:32am On May 15
fk001:



*graduate




Maybe an auto-correct.


*Modified


Pls recheck your post. What do you mean by "Bsc, Msc are all called "higher institutions" "
my brother, these are the kind of degree holder's that all these mushrooms universities and college of education degree affiliated programmes producing. And they are all forming university degree holder's.

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Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 10:54am On May 15
I no understand..
We both registered for the same jamb exam..
Let's say Mass Com... (d same course)
You scored 151/400
I scored 251/400..
U failed to reach varsity cut off mark
U registered for Poly screening exam
I registered for uni screening exam..
U scored 32 /100
I scored 290 /400

Merit admission list released...
Ur name is on the first list
I can't see mine..
Had to wait for next batch
Next list... See my name,, printed boldly in the school portal.


The truth is that almost all Poly students were rejected by University cox they failed to match up with the University high standard


Have seen engineering students (in Uni) produce Cars,, mini aircraft,, Formular One car(as part of their final year project) , amongst others. Last month,, it was posted on this forum how a team of researchers(accomplished scholars) in UNN improvised on d use of WASTE PRODUCTS as an alternative source of ENERGY. Stop saying that Varsity can't do practical,,,, that all they do is theories. You're just consoling yourself.

Waiting 4 una sniper bullet @ d poly students/graduates in da houz....

#ShotFired
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:02am On May 15
MrMash:


I never said one was inferior .

But you know in your heart which is better .

Ogbeni I work with this ur HND graduates everyday. They are hardworking no doubt, but if it takes them 30 minutes to solve a problem , na 3 minutes I go take solve am.

There was a time Polythecnic graduates were given opportunity to write same Dragnet exam as University graduates for a job opening . Guess what!! Nobody scored up to 18 grin

Make we dey sabi our mate. Abeg.


University >Poly.
Tell them d truth no matter how blunt it may sound..

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Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by jaeyking(m): 11:04am On May 15
MrMash:




The difference is hard to miss .

Try teaching both an entirely new thing and see who learns faster.

It would be a crime to pay both same salary .

University graduates are wired to be problem solvers and critical thinkers, Diploma holders are skilled craftsmen that take instructions.

I would take that as an insult.
It all depends on the individual.

Who no know book no go know.
Even if na MIT he go.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Goalnaldo(m): 11:04am On May 15
Those who will like it are graduates of polytechnic and those who will not are graduates of University.
Bottom line is everybody is self centered in Nigeria and will do anything to protect their own grin
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by jaeyking(m): 11:07am On May 15
malton:


So in your own wisdom, Yabatech is better than ABU? What manner of disrespect is this?!

The only reason University is better than Polytechnic is because they have better alumni

Most of the society elites finished from universities so that's y great attention is given to universities.

Thats all the knowledge depends on the individual.

I have seen a 2nd Class upper student in physics that can't take secondary school students in practical
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Teawhy2011: 11:13am On May 15
kittykollinxx:


A university degree is not a paper! taken nothing away from the polytechnic graduates, with all their skills they still need someone who understands the theories that drive the practice and that is why, university graduates should always have an edge. Without theories there's no productivity.
Have you taken a careful examination of polytechnic graduate writing skills?

Oga neva go there o! I always proud to be a Polytechnic graduate. I knw many of ur so-called bsc holders, whom I helped to write different letters during my nysc. Imagine,a so-called bsc holder doesn't know the difference between ADVICE and ADVISE, lMPORTANCE and IMPORTANT, IS and His etc.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:17am On May 15
Goalnaldo:
Those who will like it are graduates of polytechnic and those who will not are graduates of University.
Bottom line is everybody is self centered in Nigeria and will do anything to protect their own grin


If you give them "allow" they will be looking for "allowance"... They should know their boundary.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by toyinjimoh(m): 11:18am On May 15
OSUigboKiller:

Lol
Keep fooling yourself.
Your greatest wish was to be a bsc holder but sadly, (the brain nor get that power)
Wetin you get for jamb cheesy grin
what have u achieve with your bsc someone with ond is even better than you
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:27am On May 15
jaxxy:
There are Polythenics that are university standard quite well and universities that are below standard.

Mention them or forever keep mute
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Netanyahu1: 11:38am On May 15
kittykollinxx:


A university degree is not a paper! taken nothing away from the polytechnic graduates, with all their skills they still need someone who understands the theories that drive the practice and that is why, university graduates should always have an edge. Without theories there's no productivity.
Have you taken a careful examination of polytechnic graduate writing skills?
Forget that thing abeg, where has theory gotten us since 1960, all we have is certificates everywhere, yet we import 90% of what we consume .
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by deleo16(m): 12:26pm On May 15
baby124:
Upon all the school... Nigeria is not going forward. HND should be left where it is. In fact more Nigerians should be pushed to pass through polytechnics so they learn a skill for 2yrs before going on to earn BSC since most are useless to themselves after graduation anyway.

As for the useless professors who are just feeding fat on government wages without publishing any research at least biannually, they should be sacked. We have too many people with useless degrees where they cram/cheat through school and cannot apply their knowledge in any capacity.

Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Deepthoughts: 12:27pm On May 15
MrMash:


One of the characteristics of skilled craftsmen is that they dont read to digest. Dont take everything hook , line and sinker .

Go through the news again .

It is limited to paramilitary!!! even a Secondary school drop out can fit into the role.

I think the solution you all want is for all polythecnics to be converted to Universities. Make government kuku abolish polythecnics .

Throughout your stay in your "amazing" Polythecnic .
How many of your courses were taken by a Dr?
How many of your Courses were taken by a Prof ?
Foreign Prof ?

; grin shocked
Now you see how narrow minded n egotistical that you are,all this dichotomy fuel by the pride of your type is for personal gains n nothing to do with the society or national development,just because I don't agree with your views you termed me to be a product of the polytechnic,well I'm not,yes let the polytechnics be scrapped n a degree programme fashion put for courses that are practical skill oriented n let the present confusion cease for good,you that have been thaught by DRs profs,foriegn n extra terrestrial profs what have you contributed to the society,national or mankind?,other than attending numerous interviews, speaking grammar hoping to earn monthly pay n flex.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 12:28pm On May 15
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Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by Iretii0511(m): 12:31pm On May 15
Teawhy2011:


Oga neva go there o! I always proud to be a Polytechnic graduate. I knw many of ur so-called bsc holders, whom I helped to write different letters during my nysc. Imagine,a so-called bsc holder doesn't know the difference between ADVICE and ADVISE, lMPORTANCE and IMPORTANT, IS and His etc.


You wrote letters for BSc holders with this kind of grammar? Maybe they are graduates of Iya Basira University.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 12:31pm On May 15
Emo247:
The are not the same in so many ways, You think it is easy getting admission into the university? Polytechnic no stress for admission and you will be relaxing by going for I.T ND 1 / ND 2 .. they are enjoying

Oga I did direct entry to a Uni with my OND, Uni no get stress compared to what i faced in Poly. What i did in 200lv to 400lv first semester, I had done dem already in ND already. I no dey go class at all, I don't even know d lecturers for most course (Me wey skl don tire sef). I still burst their papa 2.1, con imagine if I con serious. Uni students dull die, dem go read everyday still struggle for 2.1.

That 1 wey say we no sabi write reports, Make he try no meet my poly OND grads, We go beat am hands down
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OSUigboKiller: 12:37pm On May 15
toyinjimoh:
what have u achieve with your bsc someone with ond is even better than you
lol
You wish were as lucky as I'm
30 and in level 9 (FG parastatal
Thank God for my B.Sc and MSc just concluded.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 12:41pm On May 15
kittykollinxx:


A university degree is not a paper! taken nothing away from the polytechnic graduates, with all their skills they still need someone who understands the theories that drive the practice and that is why, university graduates should always have an edge. Without theories there's no productivity.
Have you taken a careful examination of polytechnic graduate writing skills?

Bros, We understand theories very very well. Incase u don't know, Practical involves applying theoretical knowledge that u understand. If don't understand theories, ur practical no go make sense. Na why Bsc students no dey sabi do practical cos they crammed the theory in d first place.

Writing Skill (Lol) We go beat u hands down)

You are being myopic, majority of Nigerian students lack quality writing skills. Because the HND grads u've met cant write well doesn't mean everybody cant. Most Bsc Students are very very very dull, but i definitely won't say all Bsc Holders are dull.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by IMASTEX: 12:58pm On May 15
dingbang:
We believe in paper so much rather than productivity and output
The very reason the country is still sleeping in one position.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by kittykollinxx(m): 1:16pm On May 15
Babysho:


I know say you be Uni graduate. I could hardly comprehend what you wrote here.
Register for a comprehension class
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by BananaTree: 1:22pm On May 15
Mustsucceed:



Do you know many of the HND I have met actually have more stiff up there than bs.c?so how can you state such?
Iam glad it has been abolished

Where do you fall? That should tell us more about how sentimental you are.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by BananaTree: 1:23pm On May 15
jaxxy:
There are Polythenics that are university standard quite well and universities that are below standard.

Can you name some of the polytechnics?
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 1:26pm On May 15
Amitez:


Oga, go and check with ICAN and ACCA for their prize winnerso in Nigeria. That should just be okay to clear your doubts.
University degrees in Nigeria are just nothing but name.. Anyone can just obtain them if serious. Again try and visit MBA classes and find out top performers. Most are polytechnic graduates. Same applies on the job.
I for one select the best candidate in an interview, whether BSC or HND. It is the skills that I am after.

u dey mind dem, when we dey finish professional courses even b4 we are done with ND, na when dem dey find work, dem dey know about Professional courses
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 1:28pm On May 15
kittykollinxx:

Theories are the body of knowledge that drives a Profession. I dont mean theory its literal meaning

Mr Man What do u think we do in classes, Practicals?

I have passed through d two systems, Bros Syllabus na d same

Just so u know, Proper Applications of theories are what drives a Profession
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by toyinjimoh(m): 1:33pm On May 15
OSUigboKiller:

lol
You wish were as lucky as I'm
30 and in level 9 (FG parastatal
Thank God for my B.Sc and MSc just concluded.
congratulations for making it to the heaven with your bsc and masters
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by BananaTree: 1:35pm On May 15
xerxes456:
Tell them again... Most people make comments based on the knowledge available to them, they don't go further to at the least do a little research on what obtains as regards to a discuss that's beyond their knowledge...
Just like you, I have been in the 4walls of both a Polytechnic up to HND level and a University up to BSc level, the university curriculum is a watered down version of whats obtained in the HND curriculum... the dichotomy ish I believe was born out of lack of understanding of the difference between a technologist and a Scientist... they are worlds apart but are meant to complement each other not rivals or one is higher than the other, funny enough a technologist (HND holder) can function effectively in both specializations, while an ordinary (BSc Holder) can only function as a scientist... it's proven even in my place of work, it pops up day in day out.

Had both experience too. You're either intentionally not being sincere or you settled for a mushroom university. I used to think exactly this way when I was in the poly until I saw the light. Both are miles apart with the University far ahead. The poly is actually a huge joke. Even the practicals in question aren't being thought the way they should. And yes, I went to one of the best federal polytechnics and universities.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by jaxxy(m): 1:41pm On May 15
BananaTree:


Can you name some of the polytechnics?


Yabatech is one and there are a couple of others
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by ZinoFasisi(m): 1:50pm On May 15
kittykollinxx:


Do you know the meaning of writing skills at all? I meant ability to prepare official reports

So this man no even know d meaning of writings skills. Ur brain is too skewed towards working for people, u need reorientation.

Imagine thinking writing skills is mostly about Official report. yuck!!
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by MrMash(m): 2:05pm On May 15
jaeyking:


I would take that as an insult.
It all depends on the individual.

Who no know book no go know.
Even if na MIT he go.


I apologize . You are right.

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Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by BananaTree: 2:10pm On May 15
jaxxy:



Yabatech is one and there are a couple of others

Lol... You know nothing.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by jaxxy(m): 2:18pm On May 15
BananaTree:


Lol... You know nothing.


I think u don’t also. I know many who came tru this here and did excellently well even those who crossed to uni just for the sake of a bsc cow of the system. I know this for a Fact.

Sm universities are also overrated.
Re: FG Approves Abolition Of HND/BSC Dichotomy by OSUigboKiller: 2:24pm On May 15
toyinjimoh:
congratulations for making it to the heaven with your bsc and masters
You're welcome.

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