NigeriaIsDoomed:
You are lucky to be a Nigerian, if it were China you and those corrupt government officials would have been executed by now to deter other criminal elements.
Continue to support criminals because of the crumbs you are picking from the table.
Folks like you is why Nigeria has been stripped of everything by criminals since 1960.

It was re-awarded to the same contractor by the Goodluck Jonathan administration in 2012 for execution in six phases, starting with the Lagos-Ibadan stretch.

Okheria also said arrangements were being finalised to start the construction of the Lagos-Calabar and Kaduna-Kano rail lines.

“The contract was awarded by the regime of former President Goodluck Jonathan for $11.917bn. When we took over at the ministry, we renegotiated with the CCECC and we succeeded in reducing the contract sum from $11.917bn to $11.117bn and we are able to save $800m after the renegotiation,” he had explained.





https://punchng.com/n458bn-lagos-ibadan-new-rail-project-begin-feb/

deomelo:



You should feel lucky for GEJ and his corrupt cronies and looters because China go don slaughter them a long time ago

GEJ and Okonjo stole $2.3 billion and gave it to Dasuki to share with their PPDP cronies from Fayose, to FFK, Metuh and others.

That $2.3 billion is enough to build the same Lagos Ibadan Railway we are talking about.

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Ogbeni, na you dey support corrupt elements. I wouldn't mind if all those corrupt politicians were executed if it were possible.
My grouse with the present government is high level of hypocrisy.

deomelo:



I care less about your opinion about corruption because you are entitled to your opinion, but regarding this project and corruption, you are wrong, you can not even logically prove any case of corruption without facts.

Furthermore, GEJ's cost for the same project was higher, but the person you labelled corrupt actually renegotiated and reduced the cost.

Now, you see how silly you people sound.

myboy2111:

Lagos Ibadan is not single track, it is double tracks.

Bias mind will not allow you do small research

https://www.nairaland.com/4879575/update-lagos-ibadan-railway-photos

The total cost of Addis ababa Djibouti's railway line is $4 billion and not $3.4 billion
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/ethiopia-djibouti-railway-line-modernisation/

The addis ababa Djibouti's railway line is not all double tracks. .only 115km is double while the remaining 600km is single track

https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/ethiopia-djibouti-railway-line-modernisation/

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Ogbeni abeg u don win, make I sleep now jare.

Splashme:



Oga, is Buhari's govt funding the Lagos-Ibadan railway?

Is signing a loan agreement with China for a project an achievement?

Who cannot do such a simple task?

Didn't GEJ do it in the case of Abuja-Kaduna railway, airport terminals and Abuja MetroLine projects?

See, I only respect leaders who prudently manage resources and fund their own projects.

Engaging China to fund a project with massive loans for future generations to pay is not an achievement.

Bragalane:
What idiots normally do after arguing foolishly like the blind bat they are.

Splashme:



Oga, is Buhari's govt funding the Lagos-Ibadan railway?

Is signing a loan agreement with China for a project an achievement?

Who cannot do such a simple task?

Didn't GEJ do it in the case of Abuja-Kaduna railway, airport terminals and Abuja MetroLine projects?

See, I only respect leaders who prudently manage resources and fund their own projects.

Engaging China to fund a project with massive loans for future generations to pay is not an achievement.

deomelo:
If you are going to compare, at least equip yourself with detailed facts like specifications and factors like rail tunnels, rail bridges, rail stations and so on.

Peddling figures and making blind comparisons based on figures without facts and details is ignorance and mental laziness.


Lazy Nigerian youths

deomelo:



The projects are the same because they are both railway projects constructed by the same company?

So, Toyota Camry car in Nigeria and Ethiopia share the same cost just because they are made by the same company?


I hope and pray that you people are not the smartest people in your village because if so, your village is doomed.

EngrKem:

Mehn Fvck off!!!
Thank God for niger delta oil every day.
Hypocrits

JAWBONE:


The price of a brand new Toyota camry cost the same anywhere, any price difference would be negligible or else people would take advantage to arbitrage. I know your brain cannot comprehend what I just typed because you have donated it to sycophancy but just try and do some research. ZOMBIE

Staro:



You're intelligent.
I always wonder why ignorant Nigerians clap for Amaechi when he comes inspecting a railway project almost wholly financed by Chinese loans, loans and more loans

deomelo:
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Your ignorant and unintelligent rants are getting boring, get some education and start from basic elementary education.

Staro:




See who's talking about intelligence and education.
I have read your posts and will say for a fact that Nigeria is doomed if youths keep reasoning like you

Splashme:
The difference is too much
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves.

JAWBONE:


The price of a brand new Toyota camry cost the same anywhere, any price difference would be negligible or else people would take advantage to arbitrage. I know your brain cannot comprehend what I just typed because you have donated it to sycophancy but just try and do some research. ZOMBIE

Iblad0994:


This is the most false statement I’ve ever seen in my life. Why will the price of Toyota be thesame everywhere?? Don’t you factor in import tax, clearance, government policy.

I know of lot of countries that the price of cars are damn expensive such that people don’t even want to import cars because government charge too much on duties to discourage people from importing.

Take for example trade sanction on imported vehicles in other countries, do you mean the car price there will be thesame as another country without sanctions??

The cost to build one mile of road depends on the terrain, country, source to raw materials and lot of other factors. Do you mean the cost to build one mile of road in Brazil will be the same as that of Nigeria for example?

He is trying to correct you and you’re calling him zombie. Sometimes you argue not to win but to learn bro.

JAWBONE:


When Toyota produces car, they put a price on it. If the price changes, then it as a result of the specific country economic policies. The price difference among countries cannot be very significant. A brand new toyota cannot cost 30000 dollars in US and sell for 25000 dollars in Nigeria when converted to Naira at production cost, if the cost of importation from Nigeria for American buyers is not up to 5000 dollars, they would simply stop buying Toyota in America and start importing from Nigeria.

Cost to build a mile of road does not depend on terrain only. Yes terrain matters, even in Nigeria it costs more to build a road in the South than in the North because of the terrain
but that does not explain why a bigger project in size and functionality would cost less than a similar project. Terrain does not fully explain why a smaller railyway project in Nigeria should cost more than a bigger railway project in Ethiopia.

Splashme:
The difference is too much
Buhari, Amaechi, APC are big thieves.

Staro:



You're intelligent.
I always wonder why ignorant Nigerians clap for Amaechi when he comes inspecting a railway project almost wholly financed by Chinese loans, loans and more loans

NigeriaIsDoomed:
Oga, you can rant from now till you grow white hairs, it doesn't change the fact that you are a corruption apologist and looter. Arrant gibberish!
Nigerians will be shocked when the life of this government expires. Massive looting supported by their apologists like this illiterate I am quoting now happening silently.
you be looter oga na why u dey vex. Abeg no go kee yourself illiterate like u dey use your brain wey God dash yoi

Iblad0994:


This is the most false statement I’ve ever seen in my life. Why will the price of Toyota be thesame everywhere?? Don’t you factor in import tax, clearance, government policy.

I know of lot of countries that the price of cars are damn expensive such that people don’t even want to import cars because government charge too much on duties to discourage people from importing.

Take for example trade sanction on imported vehicles in other countries, do you mean the car price there will be thesame as another country without sanctions??

The cost to build one mile of road depends on the terrain, country, source to raw materials and lot of other factors. Do you mean the cost to build one mile of road in Brazil will be the same as that of Nigeria for example?

He is trying to correct you and you’re calling him zombie. Sometimes you argue not to win but to learn bro.

Iblad0994:


I get your point bro. But looking at the matter as a whole, there is more to this than just comparing project just by the cost.

Even if the government wants to steal, why will they bring out that exuberant price difference? That alone should tell you there are modalities and the report by the OP is just the heading, if you do the feasibility studies you will unravel the reasons for the price differences.

The media now just carry news without giving in-depth explanation as to the reason why things happened. Just that I currently don’t have time now, if I can make just little bit of research we will know why the prices are different and we can reach a logical conclusion.

But in conclusion, prices will always be different for project across countries even with the same contractors coz situations are different. Why the price difference is this much, I don’t know but I know that if proper research is done, that will be unraveled and logical deductions can be made whether the government inflates the price or not.

deomelo:
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Your ignorant and unintelligent rants are getting boring, get some education and start from basic elementary education.

Iblad0994:


I get your point bro. But looking at the matter as a whole, there is more to this than just comparing project just by the cost.

Even if the government wants to steal, why will they bring out that exuberant price difference? That alone should tell you there are modalities and the report by the OP is just the heading, if you do the feasibility studies you will unravel the reasons for the price differences.

The media now just carry news without giving in-depth explanation as to the reason why things happened. Just that I currently don’t have time now, if I can make just little bit of research we will know why the prices are different and we can reach a logical conclusion.

But in conclusion, prices will always be different for project across countries even with the same contractors coz situations are different. Why the price difference is this much, I don’t know but I know that if proper research is done, that will be unraveled and logical deductions can be made whether the government inflates the price or not.

omohayek:

I wonder if you, or anyone else who has referred on here to possible differences in terrain, have ever bothered to actually check out Ethiopia's terrain in comparison with SW Nigeria's? Because if you had, you'd know that Ethiopia is a much more mountainous country, thanks to the Rift Valley running through eastern Africa. That being the case, terrain would be a reason for the Ethiopian line to be more expensive, not less.

There's something ridiculous about the manner in which people on here reflexively defend anything done by "their" party, no matter how glaringly problematic it may be: it's not as if only supporters of one of the two main parties will exclusively bear the costs of servicing these loans, so what is to be gained by such efforts (unless one is being paid for doing so)? Even if it's true that the cost of the railway line under Amaechi is $800 million less than it was under GEJ, how does that establish that it still isn't wildly overpriced, albeit by less than before? That's as senseless as saying corruption in Nigeria ended after Abacha because no one after him established so many secret overseas accounts.

There are real questions to be answered here, and to pretend otherwise is simply to bury one's head in the sand like an ostrich.