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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Nobody: 11:45pm On Aug 19
bellong:


To God be the glory for the great deliverance of his soul and spirit.

God bless you bro.


Yes to God alone be the glory for we are just pens and pencils that He uses to make the drawings and He wouldn't share His glory with man.

I'm still overwhelmed with tears of joy, cos seeing people overcome sinful habits is the testimony I've always cherished most.

I almost lost hope on that guy and resorted solely to prayers when I didn't hear from him for one month, I didn't know he had gotten the victory.


Will continue the witchcraft stuff tomorrow.
God bless you and all that stood with me.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by Tweak2k: 11:45pm On Aug 19
EnthronedbyGod:



Any Jesus that you see that's not similar to this one is a scam, all those Jesus you see on statues in Churches and the ones with halo are all scam.

This is the closest I've ever seen in pics

Some na demons self. I'm very serious that some are actually fallen angels and not Jesus

lol
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 11:47pm On Aug 19
EnthronedbyGod:
Witchcraft that we have today actually started far back even before the days of Abraham.

These angels that worked with Azazel and samyaza introduced the daughters of men to witchcraft( sorcery)

Amazarak- taught sorcery and dividing of roots.

Armors- taught the solution to sorcery.

Barkayal- taught star gazing

Akibeel- taught satanic signs.

Tamiel- taught astrology.

Asaradel- taught moon gazing.

This is actually how witchcraft started and that's why witchcraft isn't limited to the terrestrial plain as so many Bible scholars and even men of God believe.



Enoch Chapter 6 - 8;

CHAPTER 6;
1 And it came to pass, after the children of men increased in those days, beautiful and comely daughters were born to them.

2 And the angels, the sons of the heavens saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: "Behold, we will choose for ourselves wives among the children of men, and will beget for ourselves children."

3 And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: "I fear that perhaps ye will not be willing to do this deed, and I alone shall suffer for this great sin."

4 Then all answered him and said: "We all will swear an oath, and bind ourselves mutually to a curse, that we will not give up this plan, but will make this plan a deed."

5 Then they all swore together, and bound themselves by a curse; and together they were two hundred.

6 And they descended on Ardis, which is the summit of Mount Hermon; and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn on it and bound themselves mutually by a curse.

7 And these are the names of their leaders: Semjaza who was their leader, Urakibarameel, Akibeel, Tamiel, Ramuel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Saraqujal, Asael, Armers, Batraal, Anani, Zaqebe, Samsaveel, Sartael, Turel, Jomjael, Arazjal.

8 These are the leaders of the two hundred angels, and the others all were with them.


CHAPTER 7

1 And they took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go into them, and mixed with them, and taught them charms and conjurations, and made them acquainted with cutting of roots and woods.

2 And they became pregnant and brought forth great giants whose stature was three thousand ells.

3 These devoured the acquisitions of all mankind till men were unable to sustain themselves.

4 And the giants turned themselves against mankind in order to devour them.

5 And they began to sin against the birds and the beasts, and against the creeping things, and the fish, and devoured their flesh among themselves, and drank the blood thereof.

6 Then the earth complained of the unjust ones.

CHAPTER 8

1 And Azazel taught mankind to make swords and knives and shields and coat of mail, and taught them to see what is behind them, and their works of art: bracelets and ornaments, and the use of rouge, and the beautifying of the eyebrows, and the dearest and choicest stones and all coloring substances and the metals of the earth.

2 And there was great wickedness and much fornication, and they sinned, and all their ways were corrupt.

3 Amezarak taught all the conjurers and root cutters, Armaros the loosening of conjurations, Baraq'al the astrologers, Kokabel the signs, Temel taught astrology, and Asradel taught the course of the moon.

4 And in the destruction of mankind, they cried aloud, and their voices reached heaven.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 12:35am On Aug 20
EnthronedbyGod:


Not the whole book, just the part that has to do with what you screen shot.

Don't forget to quote the particular post I made that's similar to the one you're copying from the book

God bless you richly.

Thanks bro...

Done it...
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by CodeTemplar: 1:08am On Aug 20
EnthronedbyGod:



Yes to God alone be the glory for we are just pens and pencils that He uses to make the drawings and He wouldn't share His glory with man.

This book of Enoch isn't it like "Seven books of Moses"? Is it safe for a believer to read?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by bellong: 1:40am On Aug 20
CodeTemplar:


This book of Enoch isn't it like "Seven books of Moses"? Is it safe for a believer to read?

I don't think it is demonic. It is one of those non-canonical books. Jude made reference to it from verse 14.

I have not read the book though.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 3:47am On Aug 20
CodeTemplar:
This book of Enoch isn't it like "Seven books of Moses"? Is it safe for a believer to read?
"The book of Enoch writing are referenced in the Bible by Peter and Jude not as a form of endorsing it but actually the mentioned parts of the book of Enoch in their letters was done to demystify to stories of angels impregnating human beings myths and stories that were going the rounds in and around that time.

Jude and Peter scolded people believing this story and even charged them of slandering the angels, further saying even fellow angels wouldn't think of slandering angels of what they are accused of.

I too, aside the good book, read the bad and ugly books, but that Book of Enoch, is one nasty piece of work, that you literally do a SMH every now and then, when reading it. No wonder, Paul too, aside Jude and Peter, warned against all these Jewish myths like including this one, doing the rounds back then and still does today.
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- Re: Who Said Angels Don't Have Sexual Feelings? by MuttleyLaff: 1:04pm On Feb 16

"... It is true you believe that The Book Of enoch was written by enoch, the one who was seven generations from Adam? You want the Book of enoch to be true so bad but its not and you cant get over that..."
- Re: WITCHCRAFT AND HOMOSEXUALITY ARE LIKE A SET OF TWIN. by MuttleyLaff: 7:18am On May 02

You'll retch up if you read the book. I honestly didn't want to gate crash or pooh pooh the Book of Enoch party going on here. I was enjoying reading all the five-star ratings given by the various very enthusiastic and/or passionate lovers of the book.

bellong:
I don't think it is demonic
It might not be demonic but it certainly is a disgracefully bad and unpleasant work of fiction, that immediately gives one a feeling of embarrassment and awkwardness when reading the book and others in same category as it is.

bellong:
It is one of those non-canonical books
It is one of those non-canonical book and rightly so it should be a non-canonical book because it is a falsely attributed book of Enoch. There is no existing, real or genuine book of Enoch. All thats out there are frauds

bellong:
Jude made reference to it from verse 14
"Don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and human commands (i.e. shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or fables) These are made up by people who won't obey the truth."
- Titus 1:14

Nobi today yansh, don tay, for fowl back. Senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables, have been around, and they revolved around fantasies, that goes, as far back or as early as Genesis 6, culminating in slanderous claims with angels roped in and so there, why in Titus 1:14 above, Paul was advising Timothy, to sternly correct believers on these senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables.

Jude, parroting Peter, mentioning a section of the book of Enoch at verse 14, wasn't as a form of endorsement, but rather he was debunking a myth and at same time, lambasting those who believe the senseless Jewish stories, Jewish myths and/or Jewish fables. Read Jude contextually to get a proper handle of this and make sure you read Jude contextually without the mistranslated parts.

bellong:
I have not read the book though.
"It is because you are a confirmed and bonafide bible illiterate, you are way behind and dont measure up to 2 Timothy 2:15 in any shape or form, is why you think I am full of inconsistencies. If you are asked to state what and where I am alledged to be inconsistent, you will begin to stammer and be chomping teeth

You avoid answering questions because you know you will be pinned down and get being exposed. It is as simple as that. You are nothing than a paper tiger, huffing and puffing. I have and easily eat people like you with breakfast

Would you believe it that this guy believes that The Book Of Enoch was written by Enoch, the one who was seven generations from Adam? You want the Book of Enoch to be true so bad but its not and you cant get over that, so refuse to answer the question and resort to introducing some unrelated, unconnected and totally different homosexuality subject

Do you also believe in the Infancy Gospel of Thomas too? Another Gnostic book? I was just about bringing the bird out of the pocket and havent even started proper questioning you about the Book of Enoch before you developed cold feet, cat got your tongue and so clamping up.

Let me remind you, of one of the many fascinating and interesting narratives, that you read in the Book of Enoch

"1And after some days my son Methuselah took a wife for his son Lamech, and she became pregnant by him and bore a son.
2. And his body was white as snow and red as the blooming of a rose, and the hair of his head and his long locks were white as wool, and his eyes beautiful. And when he opened his eyes, he lighted up the whole house like the sun, and the whole house was very bright.
3. And thereupon he arose in the hands of the midwife, opened his mouth, and conversed with the Lord of righteousness.
4. And his father Lamech was afraid of him and fled, and came to his father Methuselah.
5. And he said unto him: 'I have begotten a strange son, diverse from and unlike man, and resembling the sons of the God of heaven; and his nature is different and he is not like us, and his eyes are as the rays of the sun, and his countenance is glorious.
6. And it seems to me that he is not sprung from me but from the angels, and I fear that in his days a wonder may be wrought on the earth.
7. And now, my father, I am here to petition thee and implore thee that thou mayest go to Enoch, our father, and learn from him the truth, for his dwelling-place is amongst the angels.'
8. And when Methuselah heard the words of his son, he came to me to the ends of the earth; for he had heard that I was there, and he cried aloud, and I heard his voice and I came to him. And 1 said unto him: 'Behold, here am I, my son, wherefore hast thou come to me?'
9. And he answered and said: 'Because of a great cause of anxiety have I come to thee, and because of a disturbing vision have I approached.
10. And now, my father, hear me: unto Lamech my son there hath been born a son, the like of whom there is none, and his nature is not like man's nature, and the colour of his body is whiter than snow and redder than the bloom of a rose, and the hair of his head is whiter than white wool, and his eyes are like the rays of the sun, and he opened his eyes and thereupon lighted up the whole house.
11. And he arose in the hands of the midwife, and opened his mouth and blessed the Lord of heaven.
12. And his father Lamech became afraid and fled to me, and did not believe that he was sprung from him, but that he was in the likeness of the angels of heaven; and behold I have come to thee that thou mayest make known to me the truth.'
13. And I, Enoch, answered and said unto him: 'The Lord will do a new thing on the earth, and this I have already seen in a vision, and make known to thee that in the generation of my father Jared some of the angels of heaven transgressed the word of the Lord.
14. And behold they commit sin and transgress the law, and have united themselves with women and commit sin with them, and have married some of them, and have begot children by them.
15. Yea, there shall come a great destruction over the whole earth, and there shall be a deluge and a great destruction for one year.
16. And this son who has been born unto you shall be left on the earth, and his three children shall be saved with him: when all mankind that are on the earth shall die [he and his sons shall be saved].
17. And they shall produce on the earth giants not according to the spirit, but according to the flesh, and there shall be a great punishment on the earth, and the earth shall be cleansed from all impurity.
18. And now make known to thy son Lamech that he who has been born is in truth his son, and call his name Noah; for he shall be left to you, and he and his sons shall be saved from the destruction, which shall come upon the earth on account of all the sin and all the unrighteousness, which shall be consummated on the earth in his days.
19. And after that there shall be still more unrighteousness than that which was first consummated on the earth; for I know the mysteries of the holy ones; for He, the Lord, has showed me and informed me, and I have read (them) in the heavenly tablets.
- Book of Enoch 106:1-19
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- Re: WITCHCRAFT AND HOMOSEXUALITY ARE LIKE A SET OF TWIN. by MuttleyLaff: 9:51pm On Apr 28

The book and other variants of it, are best flushed down the toilet, where they belong. If you start, you won't last five minutes into reading the book, before you'll shove it away, from finding the content, being ludicrous and a waste of even idle time.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by yummy76: 4:18am On Aug 20
EnthronedbyGod:
Gud morning sir..please am sorry for not getting back to u since,i was
just trying to be sure of what am experiencing since then,right now i
just cant believe myself, i just cant believe i'm the one that used to
masturbate regularly before because i cant explain the kind of hatred
i have for masturbation now...cuz before even when i dont watch any
pornographic video or picture i will still be masturbating ,especially
when taking my bath the feeling was too strong that i couldn't
control,even when i swear and promised God and myself that i will
never masturbate again,before the end of that day i will find myself
doing it again and after doing it will be asking myself in regret what
have i done...but glory be to Almighty God cuz i beleive it over now,i
realy dont know how to appreciate u now but may the Almighty God that
u serve continue to strenghten u spiritualy and physicaly..i never
knew that i wil ever pause masturbation for weeks



That's the testimony. As I'm pasting this my eyes are filled with tears of joy

Glory hallelujah! Whatever the Lord does is forever. Congratulations brother. @EnthronedbyGod more grace and wisdom in Jesus name
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 4:27am On Aug 20
"7:10Then they took wives, each choosing for himself; whom they began to approach, and with whom they cohabited; teaching them sorcery, incantations, and the dividing of roots and trees.
7:11And the women conceiving brought forth giants
7:12Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all [which] the labor of men [produced]; until it became impossible to feed them;"

- The Ethiopic version of the book of Enoch 7:10-12

"1And they took wives for themselves and everyone chose for himself one each. And they began to go into them and were promiscuous with them. And they taught them charms and spells, and they showed them the cutting of roots and trees.
2And they became pregnant and bore large giants. And their height was three thousand cubits."

- The Book of Enoch. Chapter 7:1-2

I'll tell you what, among in it, I read before I chucked the book aside as complete nasty bad bullshit and a waste of time, it is in the Ethiopic version of the book of Enoch 7:10-12, where it said the height of the born baby giants were three hundred cubits, that is the length of one and of a half football field pitch, whilst other versions like the The Book of Enoch, even said it's actually three thousand cubits hence making the born baby giants to be as high as a 45-story building. Haba! Wetin now?"
- Re: The Book Of Enoch Exposed!!!! by MuttleyLaff: 8:07am On Apr 19

PS: Almost 55 pages and not a single mention of the spiritual consequences of religious/christian cults and deliverance from them through Jesus Christ. No mention of the dangers of getting sucked into religious cults and/or trapped in religious fanaticism. David Koresh, the American religious cult leader and Jim Jones, a faith healer and another religious cult leader, both believed they had the right to kill their followers through mass suicide and mass murder.

Not a comment about the dangers of drinking the Kool-Aid, eating grass, etcetera at the command of some delusional, pseudo-pastor/prophet/cult leader. Nothing said about joining religious/christian cults, that control of what members wear, eat or drink, have members withdraw from their families and/or from general society. Members threaten with disfellowshipping and/or excommunication if noticed wanting to not toe the line. They know themselves and so no point in mentioning names and thereby giving them free ads
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by bellong: 4:50am On Aug 20
@MuttleyLaff,

I don't understand what you are on about. I supposed including me in your rhetorics is mistaken me for someone else.

Quoting scriptures doesn't amount to knowledge my brother. You can be bothered with the letters, I will be bothered with the Spirit that gives life in the letters.

God bless you.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:15am On Aug 20
bellong:
@MuttleyLaff,

I don't understand what you are on about. I supposed your rhetorics including me is mistaken me for someone else.

Quoting scriptures doesn't amount to knowledge my brother. You can be bothered with the letters, I will be bothered with the Spirit that gives life in the letters.

God bless you.
I quoted you because you asked if the Book of Enoch is demonic or not so responded you. You also mentioned Jude verse 14 and that you have not read the book though, so I gave you a brief background with the Titus verse and shared my experience of and with the Book of Enoch. I don't think anything I did necessitated you being hostile, defensive and spoiling ready for a fight and/or confrontation. I don't know what got you rattled or why you got the hump. Rhetoric, calling, not rhetoric, rhetoric. Sheesh, who needs.... Too many plastics about.

Go ahead, go read and enjoy the Book of Enoch.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by bellong: 5:21am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
I quoted you because you asked if the Book of Enoch is demonic or not so responded you. You also mentioned Jude verse 14 and that you have not read the book though, so I gave you a brief background with the Titus verse and shared my experience of and with the Book of Enoch. I don't think anything I did necessitated you being hostile, defensive and spoiling ready for a fight and/or confrontation. I don't know what got you rattled or why you got the hump. Rhetoric, calling, not rhetoric, rhetoric. Sheesh, who needs.... Too many plastics about.

Go ahead, go read and enjoy the Book of Enoch.

You need to go back and read, this time slowly.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 5:23am On Aug 20
bellong:
You need to go back and read, this time slowly.
What is stopping you self prescribing this advice for yourself.

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 6:43am On Aug 20
Seems someone dug up this thread on the book of Enoch showing Jesus quoting from it.

https://www.nairaland.com/1080843/book-enoch-jesus-quoted-it


Very interesting details there.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:06am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Seems someone dug up this thread on the book of Enoch showing Jesus quoting from it.
https://www.nairaland.com/1080843/book-enoch-jesus-quoted-it


Very interesting details there.
You don't seem to get it, that the Book of Enoch, which there are at least three variants of it, is fake news poor attempt at reverse engineering on steroids.

Have you read the whole of the Book of Enoch, as in, read the three variants, hmmm? Did you come across and read the part where born baby giants were as high as a 45-story building? Haba! Wetin nau.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:18am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
You don't seem to get it, that the Book of Enoch, which there are at least three variants of it, is fake news poor attempt at reverse engineering on steroids.

Have you read the whole of the Book of Enoch, as in, read the three variants, hmmm? Did you come across and read the part where born baby giants were as high as a 45-story building? Haba! Wetin nau.

Yawns... don't get me started on why you'll believe certain things in the Bible, but will disregard other books the Bible made references to.

I can bet, if you grew up with the knowledge that the book of Enoch was one of the canonical books, you'll argue tooth and nail to defend it... But since it's not in the Bible...oh well, it's very easy to disparage and dismiss it as "wild tales"


See how you'll end up justifying Songs of Solomon which is not too different from a Romeo and Juliet story as the word of God, simply because it's a Bible book, but disparage the writings of Enoch since it's not in the Bible...


This is a typical example of how a human's mind is moulded by the decisions and traditions of men before him...rather than letting the Spirit of God to lead them into ALL TRUTH.


By the way, are you all aware that the first version of KJV Bible has more than 66 books?
Check 1611 KJV Bible to confirm this.


Are you all aware that the oldest version of the Bible ( the Ethiopian Bible) has more than 66 books?


Are you also aware that the book of Enoch is highly regarded by the Ethiopian church, one of the first set of countries the gospel bore fruits?

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:22am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
You don't seem to get it, that the Book of Enoch, which there are at least three variants of it, is fake news poor attempt at reverse engineering on steroids.

Have you read the whole of the Book of Enoch, as in, read the three variants, hmmm? Did you come across and read the part where born baby giants were as high as a 45-story building? Haba! Wetin nau.

Have you seen the fossils of the Nephilim to corroborate what Enoch wrote?
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:25am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Yawns... don't get me started on why you'll believe certain things in the Bible, but will disregard other books the Bible made references to.

I can bet, if you grew up with the knowledge that the book of Enoch was one of the canonical books, you'll argue tooth and nail to defend it... But since it's not in the Bible...oh well, it's very easy to disparage and dismiss it as "wild tales"
Get started on first answering my questions about if you had fully read all three variants of the Book of Enoch and if you caught and read the part about baby giants that are born 45 storey building high in heights, then go open a thread, invite me, to man to man, flesh it out with you
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:30am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
Get started on first answering my questions about if you had fully read all three variants of the Book of Enoch and if you caught and read the part about baby giants that are born 45 storey building high in heights, then go open a thread, invite me, to man to man, flesh it out with you

Yes I have read the book of Enoch. The one translated from Geez.

Now do me a favor and research on the fossils of the Nephilim before going any further.

There's nothing to flesh out with you.

Making wild claims that Jude or Peter disparaged the book of Enoch by going to quote from the book of Titus authored by Paul... I don't just get it...
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 7:40am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Yes I have.
Is this yes, to reading all three variants of the Book of Enoch back to back, hmm?

OkCornel:
Now do me a favor and research on the fossils of the Nephilim before going any further
What else, should I research on, is it new born babies, who eyes shine like sunlight and lit the whole room up with sun rays light, hmm? Or about new born babies that upon birth started conversing with God, erhn?

OkCornel:
There's nothing to flesh out with you.
Oh you don't want to deny the above that the Book of Enoch alludes to, erhn?

It's all good. You have my blessing to continue enjoy reading the fables, myths and senseless stories in the three different Book of Enoch.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:51am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
Is this yes, to reading all three variants of the Book of Enoch back to back, hmm?

What else, should I research on, is it new born babies, who eyes shine like sunlight and lit the whole room up with sun rays light, hmm? Or about new born babies that upon birth started conversing with God, erhn?

You could also research on a talking serpent, a talking donkey, a man running faster than a chariot e.t.c.

You simply believe these because they are in the Bible

MuttleyLaff:

Oh you don't want to deny the above that the Book of Enoch alludes to, erhn?

I'd like you to show us where Peter and Jude alluded to the book of Enoch they quoted from as fables.

MuttleyLaff:

It's all good. You have my blessing to continue enjoy reading the fables, myths and senseless stories in the three different Book of Enoch.

Do well and enjoy the "fables" included the 66 books you were brought up with as well. Cheers

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Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:54am On Aug 20
In case you are wondering where Jesus quote Enoch?

Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. (Mat 5:5) The elect shall possess light, joy and peace, and they shall inherit the earth. (Enoch 5:7 {6:9})

the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the son (John 5:22). the principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the Son of man. (Enoch 69:27 {68:39})

shall inherit everlasting life (Mat. 19:29) those who will inherit eternal life (Enoch 40:9 {40:9})

"Wo unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. (Luke 6:24) Woe to you who are rich, for in your riches have you trusted; but from your riches you shall be removed. (Enoch 94:8 {93:7}).

Ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Mat. 19:28) I will place each of them on a throne of glory (Enoch 108:12 {105:26})

Woe unto that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It had been good for that man if he had not been born. (Mat. 26:24) Where will the habitation of sinners be . . . who have rejected the Lord of spirits. It would have been better for them, had they never been born. (Enoch 38:2 {38:2})

between us and you there is a great gulf fixed. (Luke 16:26) by a chasm . . . [are] their souls are separated (Enoch 22: 9,11{22:10,12})

In my Father's house are many mansions (John 14:2) In that day shall the Elect One sit upon a throne of glory, and shall choose their conditions and countless habitations. (Enoch 45:3 {45:3})

that ye may be called the children of light (John 12:36) the good from the generation of light (Enoch 108:11 {105: 25})

the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:14) all the thirsty drank, and were filled with wisdom, having their habitation with the righteous, the elect, and the holy. (Enoch 48:1 {48:1})


The one direct quote in the New Testament is by Jude, a brother of Jesus Christ:

Jude 1:14-15, quoting Enoch 1:9 {2:1} [1]

"And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
"To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches, which ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

While that is the only referenced quotation in the Bible, there are many indirect references which involve striking similarities.

But beware, there are some that believe that the book is false, i leave it for you to decide.

https://www.nairaland.com/1080843/book-enoch-jesus-quoted-it
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 7:58am On Aug 20
The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book.

The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture".

The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. This and many other books became discredited after the Council of Laodicea. And being under ban of the authorities, afterwards it gradually passed out of circulation.

Just see how the decisions of a few men have molded the mindset and thinking of subsequent generations. Truth now looks strange to them.

Source: http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/enoch.htm

Read the book here - http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/thebookofenochwithversenumbers.htm
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:08am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
You could also research on a talking serpent, a talking donkey, a man running faster than a chariot e.t.c.
Are you this desperate, you need to descend this low, using a cheapskate tactic like this to defend your fondness to this poor and shoddy attempt at reverse engineering fake news book on steroids.

Why not discredit the miracles Jesus performed, why not put in Peter and Jesus walking on water erhn? If you really did your research, you would have found out the circumstances of the supernatural events in the Bible is quite different to those in the Book of Enoch. The ones in the Book of Noah are on par with outlandish claims in the Quran, like of Muhammad splitting of the moon etcetera.

OkCornel:
You simply believe these because they are in the Bible
Even if that's my reason, the Book of Enoch, whichever of the three variants, if not for sake of refuting it isnt in the bible.

OkCornel:
I'd like you to show us where Peter and Jude alluded to the book of Enoch they quoted from as fables.
If you're genuinely interested, you will go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so I can expose you The education you're yearning for about where Peter and Jude alluded to the slanders and fables concerning the book of Enoch will be given to you on that thread, if you have the balls to open, mention and invite me to.

OkCornel:
Do well and enjoy the "fables" included the 66 books you were brought up with as well. Cheers
"And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
(i.e. so they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.)
"
- 2 Timothy 4:4

"Don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and human commands (i.e. shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or fables) These are made up by people who won't obey the truth"
- Titus 1:14

Paul had you too, in mind when he wrote the above 2 Timothy 4:4 and Titus 1:14, to Timothy & Titus. Paul, two thousand years ago, saw you in the future 2019 and did a smh for you

OkCornel:
The Book of Enoch was extant centuries before the birth of Christ and yet is considered by many to be more Christian in its theology than Jewish. It was considered scripture by many early Christians. The earliest literature of the so-called "Church Fathers" is filled with references to this mysterious book.

The early second century "Epistle of Barnabus" makes much use of the Book of Enoch. Second and Third Century "Church Fathers" like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origin and Clement of Alexandria all make use of the Book of Enoch. Tertullian (160-230 C.E) even called the Book of Enoch "Holy Scripture".

The Ethiopic Church even added the Book of Enoch to its official canon. It was widely known and read the first three centuries after Christ. This and many other books became discredited after the Council of Laodicea. And being under ban of the authorities, afterwards it gradually passed out of circulation.

Just see how the decisions of a few men have molded the mindset and thinking of subsequent generations. Truth now looks strange to them.

Source: http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/enoch.htm

Read the book here - http://www.heaven.net.nz/writings/thebookofenochwithversenumbers.htm
The book of Enoch was rejected and denounced, as earlier as the first century and this by the disciples, as in, talking of Peter, Paul and Jude
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:22am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
Are you this desperate, you need to descend this low, using a cheapskate tactic like this to defend your fondness to this poor and shoddy attempt at reverse engineering fake news book on steroids.

Too much needless grammar. Just tell us why you believe tales of a talking serpent, talking donkey or a man running faster than a chariot. You simply believe these because they are in the Bible.

MuttleyLaff:

Why not discredit the miracles Jesus performed, why not put in Peter and Jesus walking on water erhn? If you really did your research, you would have found out the circumstances of the supernatural events in the Bible is quite different to those in the Book of Enoch. The ones in the Book of Noah are on par with outlandish claims in the Quran, like of Muhammad splitting of the moon etcetera.

Even if that's my reason, the Book of Enoch, whichever of the three variants, if not for sake of refuting it isnt in the bible.

The Bible has many translations and variants in circulation. Even the NIV version has certain parts of the scriptures excluded from it. But I don't see anyone making a fuss about that.

MuttleyLaff:

If you're genuinely interested, you will go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so I can expose you The education you're yearning for about where Peter and Jude alluded to the slanders and fables concerning the book of Enoch will be given to you on that thread, if you have the balls to open, mention and invite me to.

""Don't pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and human commands (i.e. shouldn't pay attention to Jewish myths or fables) These are made up by people who won't obey the truth"
- Titus 1:14
Paul had you too in mind when he wrote the above Titus 1:14, to Timothy. Paul, two thousand years ago, saw you in the future 2019 and did a smh for you

Oh... please come out clearly and show us where Peter and Jude called the book of Enoch they referenced from a fable!




MuttleyLaff:

The book of Enoch was rejected and denounced, as earlier as the first century and this by the disciples, as in, talking of Peter, Paul and Jude

Where did Peter, Jude and Paul denounce the book of Enoch as fraud?

Same book of Enoch Jesus quoted from abi? Nice joke.

Go and research on the church history and genuinely tell us at what point the book of Enoch was "rejected and denounced"
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 8:31am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Where did Peter, Jude and Paul denounce the book of Enoch as fraud?
If you're genuinely interested, you will go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so I can expose you. Call it getting education on about where Peter and Jude alluded to the slanders and fables concerning the book of Enoch. If you have balls open, mention and invite me, to lets get this other party started. I'll tear you to shreds and get you exposed. I know what I am talking, you dont.

OkCornel:
Same book of Enoch Jesus quoted from abi? Nice joke.
Poor and shoddy attempt at reverse engineering fake news book on steroids. Make believe, that Jesus quoted from their pitiful fantasy book.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 8:40am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
If you're genuinely interested, you will go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so I can expose you. Call it getting education on about where Peter and Jude alluded to the slanders and fables concerning the book of Enoch. If you have balls open, mention and invite me, to lets get this other party started. I'll tear you to shreds and get you exposed. I know what I am talking, you dont.

Poor and shoddy attempt at reverse engineering fake news book on steroids. Make believe, that Jesus quoted from their pitiful fantasy book.

Look at this one claiming he wants to tear one to shreds.

Arguing with you is a total waste of time. Especially after seeing your shameful attempts on your other thread, boldly telling us God sees nothing wrong in homosexuality.


Please tell us why you believe in talking serpent or a talking donkey or a man running faster than a Chariot. It's simply because it's in the Bible.

Anything outside that is automatically dismissed as tales...


Like I said earlier, arguing with you is a total waste of my time.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:10am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Look at this one claiming he wants to tear one to shreds.
Who are you referring to as "Look at this one " erhn?

Why dont you grow the balls to go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, and see whether or not, I wont keep to my words of tearing you to shreds so much you'll be exposed huh?

OkCornel:
Arguing with you is a total waste of time. Especially after seeing your shameful attempts on your other thread, boldly telling us God sees nothing wrong in homosexuality.
Smh, what a confirmed, bonafide and sorry arsed already loser you are. You have to resort to dragging up dirt and fall on throwing mud just so to make something stick erhn? I guess you know when you are beat, thats why you opt for this strategy, hmm?

OkCornel:
Please tell us why you believe in talking serpent or a talking donkey or a man running faster than a Chariot. It's simply because it's in the Bible.
Let me give you a doggy bone, just to pacify you. It is because they are all and each in the Bible. They are supernatural events, not discredited and never denounced by anyone in the Bible. They occurred with God in the equation and/or God directly involved. The reverse engineering Book of Enoch fake news on steroid book, with its slander stories about angels, about 45 storey building high baby giant human beings, baby giant human beings with eyes that shine like sun rays and liighting up a room with sunlight rays coming from their eyes, etcetera is just what it is. Trash. Bullshit meant for the toilet.

The mention of Enoch by Jude and Peter is done for the only reason to lambast the ungodly perverting the Gospel with fantasy tales etcetera

OkCornel:
Anything outside that is automatically dismissed as tales...
The current three variants Book of Enoch, are not the same Book of Enoch peddled about in the first century that the Apostles were against and warning the early believers about it

OkCornel:
Like I said earlier, arguing with you is a total waste of my time.
I already have granted you my blessing, to go ahead relish enjoy reading that bullshit of a cursed book.

If you continue being mouthy and/or keep on asking me question(s), then please grow a pair and go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so you can get the education you lack on Peter and Jude talking of the slanders and fables in the book of Enoch

You're scared now, because you know if you dare open the thread, mention and invite me to it, your illusion will be shattered and you will take a right good ol beating.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:18am On Aug 20
MuttleyLaff:
Who are you referring to as "Look at this one " erhn?

Why dont you grow the balls to go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, and see whether or not, I wont keep to my words of tearing you to shreds so much you'll be exposed huh?

Smh, what a confirmed, bonafide and sorry arsed already loser you are. You have to resort to dragging up dirt and fall on throwing mud just so to make something stick erhn? I guess you know when you are beat, thats why you opt for this strategy, hmm?

Let me give you a doggy bone, just to pacify you. It is because they are all and each in the Bible. They are supernatural events, not discredited and never denounced by anyone in the Bible. They occurred with God in the equation and/or God directly involved. The reverse engineering Book of Enoch fake news on steroid book, with its slander stories about angels, about 45 storey building high baby giant human beings, baby giant human beings with eyes that shine like sun rays and liighting up a room with sunlight rays coming from their eyes, etcetera is just what it is. Trash. Bullshit meant for the toilet

The current three variants Book of Enoch, are not the same Book of Enoch peddled about in the first century that the Apostles were against and warning the early believers about it

I already have granted you my blessing, to go ahead relish enjoy reading that bullshit of a cursed book.

If you continue being mouthy and/or keep on asking me question, then please grow a pair and go open a thread, mention and invite me to it, so you can get the education you lack on Peter and Jude talking of the slanders and fables in the book of Enoch

Double standards... double standards... double standards...

There are many variants and version of the Bible out there with contradicting interpretations... Oh but that's absolutely not a problem.

There are many fantastic tales like the talking serpent, talking donkey, man running faster than a chariot e.t.c. oh, but these are not fables since they are in the 66 books version of the Bible...

Bros, go and argue with yourself. Perhaps the Ethiopian Church must be hell bound for canonizing the book of Enoch...

ARGUING WITH YOU IS SIMPLY A WASTE OF TIME, ESPECIALLY AFTER I SAW THE NONSENSE THREAD YOU CREATED IN FAVOR OF HOMOSEXUALITY! I'm not going down that fruitless venture of arguing with you. It is a sheer waste of time.
Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:25am On Aug 20
By the way, this is for those who think the Bible is only 66 books;

Check out the first version of King James Bible - 1611

Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by OkCornel(m): 9:27am On Aug 20

Re: Cultism, The Spiritual Consequences And Deliverance Through Christ by MuttleyLaff: 9:29am On Aug 20
OkCornel:
Double standards... double standards... double standards...

There are many variants and version of the Bible out there... absolutely no problem.

There are many fantastic tales like the talking serpent, talking donkey, man running faster than a chariot e.t.c. oh, but these are not fables since they are in the 66 books version of the Bible...

Bros, go and argue with yourself. Perhaps the Ethiopian Church must be hell bound for canonizing the book...
Fyi, it is in the Ethiopic version of the book of Enoch 7:10-12, where it said, the height of the born baby giants were three hundred cubits, that is the length of one and of a half football field pitch, whilst other versions, like the The Book of Enoch, actually say they are three thousand cubits hence making the born baby giants to be as high as a 45-story building.

Everyone knows there is only one Bible but multiple translation versions, but with the Book of Enoch, apart from the lost first century book, there are actually three different Book of Enoch and not three translation version, they dont even compliment each other, like bible translations do.

Ogbeni, stop and just go grow the balls, open a thread, mention and invite me to it. Let's see how you'll fare on it, mano mano with me.

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