Jonathan:
ode

ornicus:


Pele.not your fault you are a pass graduate who has to chase state govt job.e go better. Hopefully you will not be dragging with cleaner on salary.

adioolayi:

oponu, arindin babanla baba afofun gbe'mu

Jonathan:

Ọdẹ
So everyone must be a doctor or everyone must have passion for it ?
The health system is a complex one with different key role players.
And for your info dolt, I'm on level 10 approaching 12 and I work in the health sector.

Jonathan:
orie buru onisa

chrisxxx:

Noted.

ornicus:


Oh. I see. One of those johesu jokers who think their 4 years dubbing puts them on the same footing with medical doctors.

You are support and nothing more.deal with it

It is only in Nigeria we see this nonsense, just as it is in Nigeria that some engineering olodos will be equating the stress med school with engineering school

i know your story well. Wanted to be a doctor, couldn't make the cut, and now constantly beefing.

ornicus:


you are the typical nigerian who expects doctors to treat you for free because their reward is in heaven

continue. i hope for your sake you are rich, because the brain drain is back. doctors are not waiting around for the mercies of ungrateful nigerians

now back to the point that completely flew over your head.

every profession has industries or niches where its practiononers are well paid.

instead of whining about civil service, find an industry where you are a prime driver

an engineering firm has accountants, drivers, engineers, drafters, it guys. who do you think are the best paid people in the office?
an oil company has an it dept, a clinic, engineering departments, safety. who do you think are the best paid?
a bank has facilities management, it, different banking units, security dept. who is the best paid

when i was younger, people would say - don't do this profession it does not pay, that profession does not pay and so on
one of my dad's friends was warning me against architecture. in my second job, i was in the construction design industry and i met architects absolutely killing it.

pull yourself together and get yourself into an industry where your profession pays. or you can sit on your butt whining about entry level wage gasps

Stillthebest:


Has nothing to do with this. Every course has difficulties ro graduate from. Some courses are tedious more than medicine and surgery. Moat times medicine is about rotleaening and cramming. Have you not seen a medical doctor thag after you Complain to him or her and they take our their medical books to study for your complaints. Expertise of a doc is based on experience and learning on the job. It is simply because of the sensitivity of the profession and contribution to the country economy and also in saving lives. And they are treated as such all over the world. Every govt understands that any doctor whom your life depends on must be well taken care of and well fed. Or do you think they don't know that other professions are not underpaid?

Godmademan:
Trust me, cramming does not help a medical trainee much. A minor specialty in medicine can have books with large volumes. Considering how wide medicine is, it is not a crime for a young doctor to visit his books for clarifications. Even professors still get excited when they see some cases because that might be the last time they get to see such and learn from.

Stillthebest:



Right. But they do cram alot. I had a stint in the course that's why I knew. Especially to pass exams. But the course has more to do with understanding human body formations and diseases associated with causes in line with your speciality.

Godmademan:
some people cram in the pre-clinicals, but you can't survive a day in clinical medicine by cramming. You will be smoked out and sent home.

Stillthebest:

Why I said right.

Stillthebest:

Why I said right.

Godmademan:
Yea…
You had a stint in Medicine? Why did you opt out?

Stillthebest:


Long story. Lost dad in a plane crash. Affected me deeply, fell sick Close to two years lectures became on and off, result became bad at Part two. So I withdrew. That's part Two. Later went for a course in sciences but not medicine n surgery.

Godmademan:
Sorry about that. Sure you're making progress in your new endeavour.

Tonymario58:
I'm a doctor, yes I save lives
I spent 6 years in school without extra years.
I sat for 5 exams (one sessional and 4 professionals)
1st professional was about straight 18 months including weekend for tutorials after which I had 2 weeks break
2nd professional lasted about 16 months with one week break afterwards
3rd professional lasted 14 months with one week break afterwards
Lastly 4th professional called final MB lasted about 10 months then hurray, you're a doctor


For the engineers while in school, they spent 5 years in all without extra year, 2 semesters per year with 4 months long vacation per year normally,
In all, Engineers spent 10 semesters in school with gaps while doctors spent at least 18 uninterrupted semesters excluding 12 uninterrupted months for internship before full licensing.

Take prejudice away, forget the so called nobility associated with the profession.
Dear OP, even if you're so liberal a parent, you'll count yourself lucky n life, if your child ends up a doctor.


Doctors are smart
You can't be a doctor if you're not smart
You can be a doctor without much intelligence but you must be SMART �

Ninethmare:
I was going through the Nigeria Prison Entry Level for graduate and I noticed that those with M.B.B.S or Doctors are automatically on Level 12 immediately they are recruited.

Other medical courses are giving more preference in Level than others

Considering the years it will take for someone on grade 08 to reach grade 12 in Federal Government Job you will know that it's quite not fair

But what confused me was Almighty Engineering courses were placed on level 08

It's quite disheartening that we that studied Engineering for 5yrs, solved all those mathematics and spent so much are placed with other courses who studied 4yrs on the same entry level which is level 8 in Federal Jobs

Please I need your taking on this

Why is M.B.B.S placed so high and Engineering not given preference?

Lagusta:


PLAB is better

Lagusta:


PLAB is better

Lagusta:


PLAB is better

sreamsense:


It is not true, you seem not to understand the logic behind salary structure. Engineers and Doctors start from the same level.

Registered Doctor (at least before you are free to practice): 6yrs mbbs + 1yr (housmanship) + 1yr (NYSC) = 8yrs (before you can be employed by hospital). Note: Some might not get housemanship placement in one yr because of limited numbers of hospitals availability. So, for a fully registered doctor to be employed after NYSC, about 8-10yrs must have been spent, it means:
After 8-10yrs as registered doctor fully ready to practise at Federal, the person will start at level 12

For engineer, a fresh graduate in engineering is not yet an engineer, except he is certified by relevant bodies in engineering before he/she can be fully ready to be called engineer:
engineering (B engr ): 5yrs + 1yr = 6yr (fresh graduate not yet registered engineer, but can begin work if he likes at level 9 in public service), two yrs after (8yrs-when doctor is doing housemanship if he is lucky to get housemanship on time), engineer in federal service already moved to level 10. At 9/10 yrs when doctor must have finished NYSC and qualified to work in any hospital as registered doctor (i.e federal), by this time, engineer already has 4yrs post-graduate experience and become registered engineer(fresh) who now starts at level 12 which is the same as that of doctor(registered). Engineer even gets better opportunity because many factors can cause medical doctor to be delayed than 8/9/10yrs and also, engineer has been collecting money even before becoming registered engineer while doctor was still paying money to school and other finances before becoming registered. Amount collected during 1yr housemanship can not be compared with what level 10 engineer has collected so far. So, people that structured federal salary scale know what they are doing, fresh registered doctor and fresh registered engineer in federal institutions are logically starts on the same level in public service, numbers of years play important role.

https://nse.org.ng/news-events/recent-news/entry-point-for-engineers

camobri:

"She had all I needed in a lady, and she was too brilliant to be a nurse..."


can u really go far in life with this your cocky attitude? Nurses are meant to be dull? What was your background like before you entered uni, you mever met nurses or know of any? What sort of ignorance is this?
I want to believe it was due to the euphoria of being a new med grad. but if you are still that saucy, heaven helps you.

Lagusta:


lol, you actually dug up 2015 post in 2019, really

Anyway, for your info, i have MANY nurses as close friends and colleagues, and we work as a team to make the patient feel better.

Meanwhile, lets chill for some cool drinks, state your location lets know whats up