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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by jarell: 12:08pm On Jun 23, 2019
Good one op
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 12:09pm On Jun 23, 2019
Judybash93:


Good point...

But...we have evidences of events that occurred thousands and even millions of years locked up in dirt over the years..... why can't we get evidences pointing out the occurrence of a global flood even after much research....

Just like any other artefact or archeological subject, evidences are rarer with time. However, there are evidences people have identified as proof of the flood, though not widely accepted. But a whole area of study called flood geology is dedicated to this. It is widely believed in the scientific community that the moon was much larger than it is now, yet there is no concrete evidence.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2019
jiggaz:
Satan was in the garden when God was pronouncing judgement for what Adam and Eve did.

He heard when God said that the woman's seed will crush his head ... So from then he knew that God will send a Redeemer for man and he has been working hookline and sinker to Arrow that plan but he always fail.. Adam and Eve knew that a Redeemer will come for them too from that statement.

So there's nothing to correct from the thread. What i posted up there is very correct.
Lol, and that the snake will no longer walk but crawl.... Lmaoo so the snake use to walk before.... U people ehn, bible is a tale for kids and clowns

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by alBHAGDADI: 12:10pm On Jun 23, 2019
driand:


people always want to write up something to contradict others, maybe for fame or whatever I don't know, in the end they'll be forming 'reading the Bible with the spirit..

The OP said Satan instigated Cain to kill Abel because he thought the messiah would come from Abel's lineage.... Just imagine that... "he thought" INFact that was where I stopped reading

What's the aim and point of contradicting without concrete prove

Meanwhile the original plan from beginning wasn't for Jesus to come it was just a plan when the law was wasting human lives

Your last sentence is wrong. Jesus was already planned to come and die for us even before the world was created.

Revelation 13:8 (KJV)
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

1 Peter 1:19-20 (KJV)
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 12:15pm On Jun 23, 2019
Adakintroy:



The same way humans started to travel million miles out themselves after the fload.

After the flood, Noah's family produced two black kids, male and female... Then gbam they travelled to Africa to beget the billions of people in afrca today.
Then again the produced two Indian kids that trekked to India ..gbagam!

Then the produced two Chinese kids that travelled to China, to start producing Chinese race... Gbagam

Same for Arabs, Europeans, Kenyans, Koreans, Latinos, Fulani etc...

And immediately all of them got to their respective locations, their memories were erased to remember their origin...they did not even mention it in their histories where they came from.. The Egyptians with records over thousand of years did not record it, the Chinese dynasty did not mention it. We all needed the Bible to remind us.

To defend mumu story no easy... Well done sir

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 12:20pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


Just like any other artefact or archeological subject, evidences are rarer with time. However, there are evidences people have identified as proof of the flood, though not widely accepted. But a whole area of study called flood geology is dedicated to this. It is widely believed in the scientific community that the moon was much larger than it is now, yet there is no concrete evidence.

Ok.. another good answer but i think an occurrence of a few thousand years shouldn't be very difficult to come by since it was a global event as stated by the Bible... Moreover, what did the people know about earth's geography at that time...i think they used to believe that the earth was at the centre of the universe and an account from the story of the Israelites claimed that Joshua raised his hands and the sun stood still... My guess is.... It wasn't a global flood but a flood which occurred within their territory which they referred to their world...
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


After the flood, Noah's family produced two black kids, male and female... Then gbam they travelled to Africa to beget the billions of people in afrca today.
Then again the produced two Indian kids that trekked to India ..gbagam!

Then the produced two Chinese kids that travelled to China, to start producing Chinese race... Gbagam

Same for Arabs, Europeans, Kenyans, Koreans, Latinos, Fulani etc...

And immediately all of them got to their respective locations, their memories were erased to remember their origin...they did not even mention it in their histories where they came from.. The Egyptians with records over thousand of years did not record it, the Chinese dynasty did not mention it. We all needed the Bible to remind us.

To defend mumu story no easy... Well done sir

Bros, take am easy na

Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by owila4luv(m): 12:28pm On Jun 23, 2019
you said any human created by God Directly Is Called The Son Of God, and That Angels Were Not Created By God, (thats From The Top When You Were Explaining Giants) 2. Were Fishes also Destroyed? Since It Said All Living Creatures and There Was No Fish In The Ark
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 12:29pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


Oga stop saying nonsense, Noah's story is a pure myth that could never have happened..

How did Chinese, Indians, Egyptians, blacks all come from a family of Noah. What kind of scientific explanation can ever explain that, it is simply not possible. And how did the animals survive after the flood, what were the carnivores eating, the food chain couldn't have been possible... Did all the canivors in the world wait for the herbivores to populate before they start eating them for food, and how did they herbivores survived, did the herbivores wait months before the plants grow before they could start eating.

And how come Egypt, Chinese dynasty never made mention of Noah, and their was never a disconnect in their histores well documented over thousand of years before the said flood to date. Stop believing nonsense because it was written in the Bible... The Noah's flood is a pure myth and only an idiot will believe it word for word

I will ignore your insults and focus on your questions.

I believe if you do your research you will already know that genetics scientist already placed that all human beings came from the same two people, around whom they have a lot identity questions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/38613-genetic-adam-and-eve-uncovered.html

So I would ask you how Chinese, Americans, Black, Red Indians came from such two people. The answers to your question is already in the open. Its the same way you and your siblings all came from your parents but have different faces, heights and hues. The scientist say they do not know these two people, the bible tells us who they are.

The primary aim of sexes in reproduction is differention. A male combines genes with a different female to get an offspring who must be different from either the male or the female. Different in the sense that his gene set is a mix and match of the two. Since each gene set is a compressed file of many potential, even reminate features in one of the parents could suddenly be expressed. That is the way to solve the problem of optimisation using genetics. Otherwise we will all be hemophrodites, and reproduce our exact replicas, who will certainly not be able to survive our weak points and will die at some point of environmental challenge.

If you still do not understand, take time to study Genetic Algorithm for solving Optimization problems in computing. It is used to search for and located even oil wells, it works and is amazing. One of the best forms of Bio-mimickery.


2. In case you missed it, the Dove Noah sent out, came back with a twig. So yes, they did wait in the ark until plants grew.

3. What about the marine animals? Did the flood kill them off too? While I can't be more definite, many marine animals would be trapped on land as the waters receded, and could have been food. And many would still be in pools and revers that receded gradually.

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 12:46pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


Ask your question, let's reason together.

1. Noah is not just a father to Jews. By Definition, Jews are the decendants of Issac, who is plenty plenty years down the line from Noah.

2. Scientific evidence tells us of a certain ice age that wipped off many species. So its not true that nothing has happen on earth that did not have same semblance of the flood to kill off all most all that was on the earth.
3. The civilisation you are pointing at are quite young in the scheme of things. Babylon ruled at the time of the kings of isreal, very much after Noah. Egypt was in power at the time of birth of Joseph, who came even after Issac talkless of Noah. Romans were in Power at the time of Christ, just 2000 years ago. Literarily counting there is at least half a millennium between Noah and Abraham. But if you consider that Noah was said to have lived for almost 1 millennium 950 years, the gap is likely much more as the years may not be counted in literary terms.


I like the maturity in your response..

Now let us scrutinize this together and I will appreciate your sincere response.

Noah's ark happened about 5000 years ago meaning the population of the total humans on earth 5k years ago was just 8 people... Noah's children were 3 plus 3 wives... Meaning these 3 couples alone populated the whole earth we have today..based on the story, The 3 couples produced the Chinese, Indians, Arabs, blacks and all great ancient civilizations emerged from them.
According to the story.

but in reality, with the facts on ground, 5000 years ago, Africa's population alone was less than hundreds of thousands.....even the tribes and cultures trace their histories to tens of thousands , at no point in time did they reduce to 0 population.
Unquestionable facts on ground speaks of Egyptian civilisation with well preserved histories up to 10k years, they did not know anything like Noah.. How is it possible that Chinese dynasty existed during the period of the so called flood.

If the flood truly happened, all these cultures and civilizations won't be in existence at that time... Remember, only 8 humans on earth... But on the contrary, there were cultures, civilisations, wars, disasters, festivals and hundreds of thousands of humans all over the world living their lives.

In addition, simple logic says that 5000 years is far too small for even a population of 1000 people to repopulate earth to what we have today.

In addition, a family of 8 can never produce the different races we have today in not even 100,000 years not even evolution not to talk of mutation ...

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:01pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


I will ignore your insults and focus on your questions.

I believe if you do your research you will already know that genetics scientist already placed that all human beings came from the same two people, around whom they have a lot identity questions. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/38613-genetic-adam-and-eve-uncovered.html

So I would ask you how Chinese, Americans, Black, Red Indians came from such two people. The answers to your question is already in the open. Its the same way you and your siblings all came from your parents but have different faces, heights and hues. The scientist say they do not know these two people, the bible tells us who they are.

The primary aim of sexes in reproduction is differention. A male combines genes with a different female to get an offspring who must be different from either the male or the female. Different in the sense that his gene set is a mix and match of the two. Since each gene set is a compressed file of many potential, even reminate features in one of the parents could suddenly be expressed. That is the way to solve the problem of optimisation using genetics. Otherwise we will all be hemophrodites, and reproduce our exact replicas, who will certainly not be able to survive our weak points and will die at some point of environmental challenge.

If you still do not understand, take time to study Genetic Algorithm for solving Optimization problems in computing. It is used to search for and located even oil wells, it works and is amazing. One of the best forms of Bio-mimickery.


2. In case you missed it, the Dove Noah sent out, came back with a twig. So yes, they did wait in the ark until plants grew.

3. What about the marine animals? Did the flood kill them off too? While I can't be more definite, many marine animals would be trapped on land as the waters receded, and could have been food. And many would still be in pools and revers that receded gradually.

To say u mumu will be an understatement of the year, so u are comparing siblings with races. Do you know the differences in races, so why u never born Chinese.. Can a Chinese couple born an Indian.? We are talking of differences like heights, bone density, hair texture, skin texture, colour of eyes...blacks will always be Blacks and cannot born Chinese or Indian. So why after Noahs ark, that year wey that flood happen and Noah born all the races for earth today, since then, nobody don born green pikin or red human being.? Na only Noah sabi born different new races ba

2. So they waited till the plants grew, so wetin dem tiger, lion, cheetah come dey chop, dem wait for the goat to born, then the goat wey dem born come grow and born more goats... Oga if dem no teach u, you suppose know say that food chain no dey possible.

3. Now I confirm your education fees has to be refunded with interest.. So u think if the whole world becomes flooded, then salt water mix with fresh water... Stop watching Africa magic., start watching national geo... Even if u do fish farming, u will know that two different fishes can't survive under same condition.. Difference in temperature, salinity, density, affects aquatic animals and many fishes would have perished today...
Oga, your brain is for thinking, so water wey cover Mount Everest,, where did that water disappear to, the water just enter ground ba and you think u are smart.

grin

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adek15(m): 1:02pm On Jun 23, 2019
grrr:


God regreted creating man because He gave man a freewill. God has no autority over mans freewill. He gave everyone the opportunity to decide what they wanted. Many did not choose God, His laws and His ways which made God regret ever creating man.

That is why after making that statement in the Old testament, He decided to help man out of devils grip by sending His only begotten son to redeem the world. Thats why in this dispensation, you will never see where God made such a statement as everyone has a choice to be redeemed and He is constantly working out salvation for everyone.

Just think of it this way. We have all been there at a point where you helped someone who really needed help and the person turned back to betray you, wont you regret it?

lolz.. I won't regret it if I know the past, the present and the future. Remember God knows everything, shouldn't he know man would go astray?
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Adek15(m): 1:05pm On Jun 23, 2019
bixton:




You tried, but you still need to re-read your post and make some modifications/corrections.


The erroneous of them all is depicting the devil/lucifer in a manner that he knows God's plan for and about man......................

Thanks.



reading the post made it seem like Satan is as powerful or even powerful than God. As ifGod is powerless when it comes to Satan,A being he created and knows his beginning and ending o
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Stupidmodes: 1:07pm On Jun 23, 2019
Funaki:
but how could God regret creating men when he knew their abilities? The bible said God knows all things, he knew the end from the beginning. How was he shocked by the actions of men during Noah's time?
Moses wrote the aspect you quoted, a story which stems from creation. Moses was not there but wrote according inspiration of the spirit but in human nature. That is why we must commit ourselves to the knowledge of the spirit so as to allow Him teach is to understand the spirit of the word and not the letters of the word.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Stupidmodes: 1:09pm On Jun 23, 2019
jiggaz:
Based on the standard of God, there is no man that is good.
Man is measured by God’s righteousness. No man can ever match up to that on their own.


The Apostle Paul called himself the chief of sinners. He was a Pharisee, not a chief mafia or chief love-vendor. No one is good — all have fallen short of the glory of God.

The end times will be just like the days of Noah. The same solution back then will still work today.

The movie “Noah” is grossly Biblically-inaccurate.
This movie is crazy that it makes Noah crazy.
It means God look harsh and mean. God never asked Noah to kill his family.
God told Noah to save his family.

Noah was a preacher of righteousness. He preached for 50 - 70 years before the flood.
God gave the world an opportunity to be saved but they didn’t believe Noah’s preaching.

Poetic license never takes away from the character.
The Passion of the Christ is an excellent movie.
The scene whereby Jesus as a child fell and Mary ran to Him, tugs at your heartstrings.
In another scene, Jesus made a table as a carpenter and told Mary that it would be popular one day.
Then He playful splashed water in His mother’s face. That’s a fine touch, showing their relationship.
These scenes aren’t written in the Bible. But they could have happened. That’s poetic license.

Genesis 3:15 - God is addressing Satan who took on the embodiment of a serpent. The woman’s seed is Jesus. Women don’t have seed. This hints at the virgin birth.
In crushing Satan’s head, Jesus’ heel was bruised.
Jesus is the Serpent-Crusher and Dragon Slayer.

“And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭3:15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬)

After the prophecy was given, the devil wanted to stop the coming of the Messiah.
He observed Cain and Abel.
Abel brought a lamb (blood sacrifice) whereas Cain brought crops of the land (the works of his own hands).
Abel’s sacrifice was accepted by God, but Cain’s was rejected.
When you come to God with an unblemished lamb, He respects and honors that sacrifice.
The first murder was over religion. Abel approached God using God’s way, while Cain approached God using man’s way.
The devil instigated Cain to murder his Abel, thinking that the Messiah would come from Abel’s lineage. But this was not so.

Cain’s wife was one of his sisters. Abraham also married his half-sister Sarah.
Before the fall of men had taken its full effect, man’s genes were still purer than now.
We don’t marry within our family today because of faulty genes in our gene pool.
There is a higher chance to have children with physical problems if you marry within the same family.

Hollywood gave a grossly inaccurate portrayal of Noah's story. Find out what really happened, based on the Bible. Jesus said that the end times will be like the days of Noah. The same solution that worked for Noah back then, will work for us today as well!


There were giants on the earth

​Genesis 6:1-18 - Nephilim means “fallen ones”. They were giants.
There were two eruptions of giants.
The giants were mighty in strength and in wickedness.
They lived hundreds of years. Imagine if they have a propensity towards evil, what kind of evil contraptions they can invent.
Back then, the people knew more than we know today.
The daughters of men are just human women.
The sons of God refers to the fallen angels.
The one-third of all angels that followed Lucifer to rebel against God.
Angels can take on a body like a man and appear like a man.
The Bible tells us don’t forget to entertain strangers and that some have unknowingly shown hospitality to angels.
Angels are always presented in the Bible as taking on the appearance of a man.
Anyone created directly by God is called “a son of God”.
Adam was called son of God because God created Him directly.
Angels are not sons of God in a familial sense.
The devil was out to corrupt the woman’s seed, to secure his own position.
The fallen angels took on the appearance of men and had sex with human women, producing Nephilim offspring.
Greek mythology records giants and cyclops. They are actually Nephilim.
After the flood there was actually another eruption of giants: the Anakim and Rephaim. They came from the same stock of the Nephilim.
The devil knew the promise that God made to Abraham, and made the giants occupy the land of Canaan.
God raised Israel to kill the remaining giants.
Noah found Grace. This is the first mention of Grace in the Bible.
Noah means “rest”. Jesus could be full of Grace because He is full of rest.
Noah had a wife. Noah’s sons had one wife each. There were eight people on the ship/ Ark.
The mandarin word for ship 船is made of the character 舟(boat) + 八(eight) + 口(mouth, in the context of 人口, meaning people).
Noah wasn’t righteous because of his character, but by the blood of Jesus.
Noah was “blameless”. In the Hebrew, the word is tamim, which means unblemished.
The same word is used to refer to unblemished lambs needed for the sacrifices to God.
Noah and his family were the only ones left on the earth that were purely human.
The rest of mankind had been corrupted (had fallen angel DNA inside them).
Science can’t explain why animals have a migratory instinct.
There is a butterfly called “Tainted Lady Butterfly” which flies from Iceland in the cold seasons, to somewhere warm like Africa.
After the season changes, their young fly back to Iceland.
When you watch Bible movies, make sure they are made by people who are born-saved — Before you drink water, check the source.
The animals knew about the incoming tsunami in Bandar Aceh long before it hit. They migrated and ran to high ground and mountain tops.
God always prepares His people before the crisis.
God prepared Noah to be saved from the flood. That’s Grace.
The word “seal” in Hebrew comes from kaphar and the word “pitch” in Hebrew comes from kopher.
Kaphar also means atonement. Kopher means ransom. Jesus is the true ark.
All the waves of judgment hit the ark but it never touched Noah and his family who were safely inside the ark.
We are in the ark: in Christ Jesus.
300 is the number of victory. Gideon and his 300 men. The woman who anointed Jesus’ feet used ointment that cost 300 denarii.
God designed the windows to be at the top of the ark, and not at the sides.
God doesn’t want you to be occupied with all the destruction that is going on around the world.
He wants you to look up and fix your eyes on Him.
The devil wants you to look around — you’ll be distressed.
Don’t look within — you’ll be depressed. Look to Jesus and you’ll be at rest.
God has someone on His right hand that He never had before — Jesus, the perfect God-Man.
As a Man, Jesus can sympathize and empathize with you.
There is only one door on the ark. Faith in Jesus is the only Way for man to be saved.
The door was on the side. The Roman soldier pierced Jesus’ side at the cross, and blood and water flowed out.
Science showed that if you die of a ruptured heart, blood and water will flow out — God made a way to show His heart poured out for you.
Why three floors in the ark? Man is a triune being: body, soul and spirit.
Salvation is for your body, soul and spirit.
You can enjoy Heaven now, while you’re on your way to Heaven.

“When men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, God’s sons saw that men’s daughters were beautiful, and they took any that they wanted for themselves as wives. Yahweh said, “My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; so his days will be one hundred twenty years.” The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God’s sons came in to men’s daughters and had children with them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of man’s heart was continually only evil. Yahweh was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him in his heart. Yahweh said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the surface of the ground—man, along with animals, creeping things, and birds of the sky—for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found favor in Yahweh’s eyes. This is the history of the generations of Noah: Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time. Noah walked with God. Noah became the father of three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. The earth was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. God saw the earth, and saw that it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth. God said to Noah, “I will bring an end to all flesh, for the earth is filled with violence through them. Behold, I will destroy them and the earth. Make a ship of gopher wood. You shall make rooms in the ship, and shall seal it inside and outside with pitch. This is how you shall make it. The length of the ship shall be three hundred cubits, its width fifty cubits, and its height thirty cubits. You shall make a roof in the ship, and you shall finish it to a cubit upward. You shall set the door of the ship in its side. You shall make it with lower, second, and third levels. I, even I, do bring the flood of waters on this earth, to destroy all flesh having the breath of life from under the sky. Everything that is in the earth will die. But I will establish my covenant with you. You shall come into the ship, you, your sons, your wife, and your sons’ wives with you.” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭6:1-18‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Job 1:6 - God’s sons refers to the angels.

“Now on the day when God’s sons came to present themselves before Yahweh, Satan also came among them.” ‭‭(Job‬ ‭1:6‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Job 38:7 - Science has shown that stars can sing/produce musical frequencies.
The sons of God here refers to angels again.

“when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” ‭‭(Job‬ ‭38:7‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Jude 1:6-7 - The fallen angels who committed sexual immorality with human women left their original bodies to take on human bodies.
These fallen angels were bound in everlasting chains.

“Angels who didn’t keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them, having, in the same way as these, given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are shown as an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire.” ‭‭(Jude‬ ‭1:6-7‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Science tells us that man evolved from monkeys. No, man was created in the image of God.
Science tells us that everything degenerates if left on its own — it doesn’t evolve.

2 Peter 2:4-5 - The fallen angels in Tartarus were judged early.
The other demons that still roam the earth today are causing havoc.
Some sicknesses are caused by demons — especially when the pain seems to jump from one part of the body to another.
These sicknesses don’t go away on their own. These demons have to be cast out in Jesus’ name.

“For if God didn’t spare angels when they sinned, but cast them down to Tartarus, and committed them to pits of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and didn’t spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah with seven others, a preacher of righteousness, when he brought a flood on the world of the ungodly;” (‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭2:4-5‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Hebrews‬ ‭11:7‬ - Make sure your children’s hearts are filled with Jesus and the word of God.
Little children’s hearts are like wet cement. Don’t let the world write on their hearts.
After the cement dries, it’s much harder to write on it.

“By faith, Noah, being warned about things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared a ship for the saving of his house, through which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.” ‭‭(Hebrews‬ ‭11:7‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

We are forever safe in the true ark

​From Ham, Shem and Japheth, came the humans of all nations today.
We are actually all one human race that originates from Adam.

There was only one pair of dogs on Noah’s ark. From within their genes, came all other pedigrees of dogs. The potential is all in their genes.

Science can’t explain hibernation. The animals on Noah’s ark slept most of the time.
Animals don’t defecate when they are in hibernation.
God remembered Noah and all the animals. Remember doesn’t mean to just think of them.
It means to meet all their needs.

Genesis 7:15-16 - Elohim (Creator God) commanded Noah to build the ark.
Yahweh (Covenant-Keeping God) closed the door of the ark.
When God closes the door, no one can open it to drag you out to the waters of judgment.
Even when the ark gets a little turbulent from the choppy waters outside, you will fall safely within the ark, not out of the ark.
The name Jesus means “Yahweh saves”. Jesus even saves you from yourself — many times we are our own worst enemies.

“Pairs from all flesh with the breath of life in them went into the ship to Noah. Those who went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God commanded him; then Yahweh shut him in.” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭7:15-16‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Genesis 7:1 - One of the most beautiful words in the Bible is “Come”.
Jesus said “Come unto Me... and I will give you rest.”
You don’t need to clean yourself before stepping into the bath.
Step into the bath and you will come out clean.
Jesus is the Bath. You can’t clean yourself from your sins. Only faith in Jesus can give you forgiveness of sins.
When the Lord said “come”, it means that He is in the ark.

“Yahweh said to Noah, “Come with all of your household into the ship, for I have seen your righteousness before me in this generation.” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭7:1‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Genesis 8:15-16 - When the Lord says “go out” it means that He is still in the ark.
The Lord is the last to leave the ark. He’s a true Hero — He’s the first one in, and the last one out.

“God spoke to Noah, saying, “Go out of the ship, you, your wife, your sons, and your sons’ wives with you.” (Genesis‬ ‭8:15-16‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

A holy life is not the root of your salvation. It is a fruit.

Genesis 8:4 - Ararat means “curse reversed”. Because of Jesus’ death and resurrection, the curse has been reversed.
We are standing on ‘no-curse’ ground!

“The ship rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on Ararat’s mountains.” (Genesis‬ ‭8:4‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Genesis‬ ‭8:18-19 - Every creature that went into the ark came out alive and safe. It’s not how good we are — it’s how good your ark is.

“Noah went out, with his sons, his wife, and his sons’ wives with him. Every animal, every creeping thing, and every bird, whatever moves on the earth, after their families, went out of the ship.” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭8:18-19‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

There is still judgment coming. There will be a Second Coming of Jesus Christ where He will judge the unbelieving world.

Genesis 9:13-15 - No flood shall ever destroy the earth again.
A rainbow is formed when a storm and sunlight collide.
When the devil sends a storm, God gives you His Grace, forming a rainbow.
The rainbow has seven colors. God does many things in sevens.
You can see in the Book of Revelation that there is a rainbow around God’s throne in Heaven.

“I set my rainbow in the cloud, and it will be a sign of a covenant between me and the earth. When I bring a cloud over the earth, that the rainbow will be seen in the cloud, and I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh, and the waters will no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.” ‭‭(Genesis‬ ‭9:13-15‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

Isaiah 54:9 - This chapter comes after Isaiah 53 which is about the suffering of Jesus at the cross.
Thanks to Jesus’ finished work at the cross, God swore that He will never be angry with us who believe in Jesus.

““For this is like the waters of Noah to me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah will no more go over the earth, so I have sworn that I will not be angry with you, nor rebuke you.” ‭‭(Isaiah‬ ‭54:9‬ ‭WEB‬‬)

The devil’s attempts to prevent the Messiah’s birth has failed. Satan has lost, Jesus is the winner!

Don’t let Hollywood or anyone wrongly shape your belief in the Word of the living God.


https://www.miltongoh.net/miltons-blog/noah-the-real-story-pastor-joseph-prince-sermon-notes
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Joshmodest(m): 1:13pm On Jun 23, 2019
Judybash93:


Good point...

But...we have evidences of events that occurred thousands and even millions of years locked up in dirt over the years..... why can't we get evidences pointing out the occurrence of a global flood even after much research....
There's actually an evidence pointing to the global flood , the Rainbow you and I see after a heavy downpour , is an evidence that God would never destroy the world with flood again !!!
Just like the every tale , there's a good point to back it up at the end , E.g it's believed as a child that India beat Nigeria 100 - 1 with jazz ..and the evidence is that India were banned by Fifa for that reason ! or the tale of dog throwing tortoise wife's grinding stone away not knowing it was tortoise , and the evidence to this is dog is always digging the ground , supposedly looking for it .....
The evidence of the global flood is a "rainbow" - I'm feeling your points bro , arguing with this folks , can make you lose some pounds of reasoning !!

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:14pm On Jun 23, 2019
realmindz:


I like the maturity in your response..

Now let us scrutinize this together and I will appreciate your sincere response.

Noah's ark happened about 5000 years ago meaning the population of the total humans on earth 5k years ago was just 8 people... Noah's children were 3 plus 3 wives... Meaning these 3 couples alone populated the whole earth we have today..based on the story, The 3 couples produced the Chinese, Indians, Arabs, blacks and all great ancient civilizations emerged from them.
According to the story.

but in reality, with the facts on ground, 5000 years ago, Africa's population alone was less than hundreds of thousands.....even the tribes and cultures trace their histories to tens of thousands , at no point in time did they reduce to 0 population.
Unquestionable facts on ground speaks of Egyptian civilisation with well preserved histories up to 10k years, they did not know anything like Noah.. How is it possible that Chinese dynasty existed during the period of the so called flood.

If the flood truly happened, all these cultures and civilizations won't be in existence at that time... Remember, only 8 humans on earth... But on the contrary, there were cultures, civilisations, wars, disasters, festivals and hundreds of thousands of humans all over the world living their lives.

In addition, simple logic says that 5000 years is far too small for even a population of 1000 people to repopulate earth to what we have today.

In addition, a family of 8 can never produce the different races we have today in not even 100,000 years not even evolution not to talk of mutation ...

Key to your logic is the interpretation of biblical years. A major area of contention even among biblical scholars. I am of the opinion that biblical years are not to be taken in literal sense, just like the six days of creation were the bible called days when the sun was not yet created, so obviously not earth days.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:18pm On Jun 23, 2019
Adek15:
lolz.. I won't regret it if I know the past, the present and the future. Remember God knows everything, shouldn't he know man would go astray?

God knows man could go astray. But not all of Mankind. Book of Revelation tells us God even knows as of today who and who will meet his requirements of salvation, hence will be his harvest. And for these, he still made man with all his potential for good and evil.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Judybash93(m): 1:18pm On Jun 23, 2019
Joshmodest:

There's actually an evidence pointing to the global flood , the Rainbow you and I see after a heavy downpour , is an evidence that God would never destroy the world with flood again !!!
Just like the every tale , there's a good point to back it up at the end , E.g it's believed as a child that India beat Nigeria 100 - 1 with jazz ..and the evidence is that India were banned by Fifa for that reason ! or the tale of dog throwing tortoise wife's grinding stone away not knowing it was tortoise , and the evidence to this is dog is always digging the ground , supposedly looking for it .....
The evidence of the global flood is a "rainbow" - I'm feeling your points bro , arguing with this folks , can make you lose some pounds of reasoning !!

Lol..... grin grin grin Boss.... Abeg abeg grin grin

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:20pm On Jun 23, 2019
Joshmodest:

There's actually an evidence pointing to the global flood , the Rainbow you and I see after a heavy downpour , is an evidence that God would never destroy the world with flood again !!!
Just like the every tale , there's a good point to back it up at the end , E.g it's believed as a child that India beat Nigeria 100 - 1 with jazz ..and the evidence is that India were banned by Fifa for that reason ! or the tale of dog throwing tortoise wife's grinding stone away not knowing it was tortoise , and the evidence to this is dog is always digging the ground , supposedly looking for it .....
The evidence of the global flood is a "rainbow" - I'm feeling your points bro , arguing with this folks , can make you lose some pounds of reasoning !!

Lmao just imagine.

A full grown man believing rainbow is a sign God won't flood the world again... grin
Why did Yahweh have to flood the world in the first place, couldnt he have just seized the heart of all the humans he wanted to kill. He could have just taken away their breath and they all die... Or what sins did the plants and animals commit...that would have saved the stress of flooding, building an ark... And saving 2 species each of the animals.

Theses are the people the Christians won't think of when their evil god killed everyone.
1. Babies still sucking breats
2. The disabled
2. Little children
4. Old men and women.
Even innocent ants, innocent birds living their lives

But Yahweh killed them all! Very wicked

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:21pm On Jun 23, 2019
Adek15:
reading the post made it seem like Satan is as powerful or even powerful than God. As ifGod is powerless when it comes to Satan,A being he created and knows his beginning and ending o


Well no one knows how he came about such. There are so many faults in his write up and that alone gives reason to those with no understanding to say whatever they like.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by GerogeI(m): 1:38pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


To say u mumu will be an understatement of the year, so u are comparing siblings with races. Do you know the differences in races, so why u never born Chinese.. Can a Chinese couple born an Indian.? We are talking of differences like heights, bone density, hair texture, skin texture, colour of eyes...blacks will always be Blacks and cannot born Chinese or Indian. So why after Noahs ark, that year wey that flood happen and Noah born all the races for earth today, since then, nobody don born green pikin or red human being.? Na only Noah sabi born different new races ba

2. So they waited till the plants grew, so wetin dem tiger, lion, cheetah come dey chop, dem wait for the goat to born, then the goat wey dem born come grow and born more goats... Oga if dem no teach u, you suppose know say that food chain no dey possible.

3. Now I confirm your education fees has to be refunded with interest.. So u think if the whole world becomes flooded, then salt water mix with fresh water... Stop watching Africa magic., start watching national geo... Even if u do fish farming, u will know that two different fishes can't survive under same condition.. Difference in temperature, salinity, density, affects aquatic animals and many fishes would have perished today...
Oga, your brain is for thinking, so water wey cover Mount Everest,, where did that water disappear to, the water just enter ground ba and you think u are smart.

grin

How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes.

Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly.


Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish.

Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure.

Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self.
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by aytuns(m): 1:38pm On Jun 23, 2019
jiggaz:
Based on the standard of God, there is no man that is good.
Man is measured by God’s righteousness. No man can ever match up to that on their own.


The Apostle Paul called himself the chief of sinners. He was a Pharisee, not a chief mafia or chief love-vendor. No one is good — all have fallen short of the glory of God.

The end times will be just like the days of Noah. The same solution back then will still work today.

The movie “Noah” is grossly Biblically-inaccurate.
This movie is crazy that it makes Noah crazy.
It means God look harsh and mean. God never asked Noah to kill his family.
God told Noah to save his family.
.......................

The devil’s attempts to prevent the Messiah’s birth has failed. Satan has lost, Jesus is the winner!

Don’t let Hollywood or anyone wrongly shape your belief in the Word of the living God.


https://www.miltongoh.net/miltons-blog/noah-the-real-story-pastor-joseph-prince-sermon-notes

When ever I read pieces like this, I'm joyful in my spirit.. Lovely exposition. Lovely message
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by realmindz: 1:40pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


Key to your logic is the interpretation of biblical years. A major area of contention even among biblical scholars. I am of the opinion that biblical years are not to be taken in literal sense, just like the six days of creation were the bible called days when the sun was not yet created, so obviously not earth days.

When being bombarded with series of logical questions, then the Christian apologetics was founded with the idea to find excuses for the ridiculous biblical claims....
This is exactly what you are doing, hiding under excuses in what is obviously a ridiculous claim. Why can't the Bible which is supposedly the perfect book of all time inspired by God himself, the almighty God not get the stories right without the need for complex explanations.

Ok, aside the timinig issue...

After the flood, we had two of every kind of animals left just in one locality.....but we know all animals cannot survive in same environmental conditions...
How did the kangaroo survive under same condition with polar bear?


did the animals start journeying to their different natural habitals all over the world... How did they travel back without no record of their fossils ever found on their way back.? How did they survive?

What did the animals eat? Did the lion eat the zebra?

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by Joshmodest(m): 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


Lmao just imagine.

A full grown man believing rainbow is a sign God won't flood the world again... grin
Why did Yahweh have to flood the world in the first place, couldnt he have just seized the heart of all the humans he wanted to kill. He could have just taken away their breath and they all die... Or what sins did the plants and animals commit...that would have saved the stress of flooding, building an ark... And saving 2 species each of the animals.

Theses are the people the Christians won't think of when their evil god killed everyone.
1. Babies still sucking breats
2. The disabled
2. Little children
4. Old men and women.
Even innocent ants, innocent birds living their lives

But Yahweh killed them all! Very wicked
This Noah's story is just one out many my friend.
Do you remember :
* The day sun shined for 24 hours
* The day water flowed everywhere and rain didn't fall
* The talking donkey.
* The Ascension of Jesus to the heaven through the sky , when he came through a woman's womb .
* The water that turned to Ace of spades.
* The Red sea that divided into two .
* The fish that swallowed Jonah
* The bird that brought food for Elisha .
* The Angels that came to sleep.with girls they created.
And the Bible says the wisdom of men , is foolishness to Yahweh.... so doubting this stories makes you a fool and a candidate of hell ...

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes.

Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly.


Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish.

Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure.

Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self.

I know your types in school, they will ask for extra sheet and still get "E".

Wow, I've never seen a more beautiful nonsense. What you wrote up there is complete trash....

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by grrr: 1:45pm On Jun 23, 2019
Funaki:

he gave man freewill and he already had the foreknowledge of what he would use the freewill to do. So why should he regret?

If you know someone is a confirm thief, but you still went ahead to make the person a treasurer in your organization, will you regret when you already know what to expect? That's man, not even God that has foreknowledge of all things.

Well firstly, He also knew the devil will betray him why did He still create the devil?

Like it was written that a person will betray Jesus, why did God still create that person?

The truth is what He has said in His word
"My ways are not your ways, my thoughts not your thoughts"

As far as the heavens are so are His ways higher than ours.

God has a plan in all of this which our small minds still tries to rationalize but sadly it cant comprehend!

I know where this is leading to, that there is no God and if there is a God, why will He allow things like this to occur.

You can never understand His ways. Our little questions here are not questions but a way to challenge Him

Well like I said over a billion people cant be wrong
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:48pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


Lmao just imagine.

A full grown man believing rainbow is a sign God won't flood the world again... grin
Why did Yahweh have to flood the world in the first place, couldnt he have just seized the heart of all the humans he wanted to kill. He could have just taken away their breath and they all die... Or what sins did the plants and animals commit...that would have saved the stress of flooding, building an ark... And saving 2 species each of the animals.

Theses are the people the Christians won't think of when their evil god killed everyone.
1. Babies still sucking breats
2. The disabled
2. Little children
4. Old men and women.
Even innocent ants, innocent birds living their lives

But Yahweh killed them all! Very wicked


No one can ascribe a name to God that does not have a resemblance of any of His names as recorded in the Bible.
God created man giving him the free-will to ask questions even in man's stupidity. Yet over the years God has made Himself known to man in different ways but man have refused to acknowledge it.

There's no other religion that allows man to ask stupid questions even if you're a free thinker.....................

Now If I may know:
What are your beliefs as to the creation of the world and how did man come into being?
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:50pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes.

Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly.


Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish.

Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure.

Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self.

I know your types in school, they will ask for extra sheet and still get "E".

Wow, I've never seen a more beautiful nonsense. What you wrote up there is complete trash....

let me help u a bit, the writer of the Bible wrote from a flat earth perspective..now u understand when they say windows of heaven were opened.

The Bible was written with the concept of the earth being the centre of the universe, flat earth theory, they did not understand the concept of rain formation and precipitation.....now u dig, u ignoramus.

Bringing in genetic optimisation, you are shooting yourself on the foot as it is dead on arrival... DOD. If really u understand what you say, you will realize it is further disintegrate, negate, scatter, destroys and bury your own side of the argument for good...and Noah's ark remain a myth where it belongs
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by aytuns(m): 1:54pm On Jun 23, 2019
GerogeI:


How dumb. Obviously you are one of those who think they know a lot based on classical science classes.

Continuous genetic Differentiation in one direction will give you a prominent change. For example, if all kids without enough dark pigmentation died early of skin cancer, they will not reproduce, the population becomes inherently dark skinned over time as strong pigmentation becomes a common feature of surviving population. Please go and study Genetic Optimization before coming here to argue blindly.


Please tell me, why does salt water not mix with fresh water? Cause when that happen you only have a less salty water. Meaning marine creatures can survive in it depending on the degree of saltiness. With time you will have gradual filtration of such water pool via the natural water cycles and they will return as being fresh water. Such will take time, some animals will die off, some will survive and evolve. Bottomline, there is plenty meat to be fished off water pools, and even muds pools were you can have mud fish. Specialization in eating only antelope will come after antelope populations have grown. Just like bears who find themselves in polar region will learn to fish.

Hello, go figure the amount if water stored in the clouds, and the amount stored in polar ice caps and you will be amazed. Genesis can help you- He God made a firmament to separate the waters above from the waters below. And the waters below formed the seas. If He releases the waters above, you will have your flood. And all he needs to release it is to lower temperatures. We all already know an Ice age happened for sure.

Thank you. This is my last response to your ignorant self.

With all due respect sir, your answers are interesting, and I appreciate how you've been able to search out scientific proofs of biblical occurrences..

I've realised anyway that arguing with people who claim not to believe in God is usually a waste of time.. Cos the more they claim disbelief in God and the Bible, to more foolish they sound. These are people that their very existence points to the workings of a supreme being..

I wish you could write another thread talking on scientific proofs of biblical history.. It's a request.

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Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by bixton(m): 1:55pm On Jun 23, 2019
dazzlingd:


I know your types in school, they will ask for extra sheet and still get "E".

Wow, I've never seen a more beautiful nonsense. What you wrote up there is complete trash....

let me help u a bit, the writer of the Bible wrote from a flat earth perspective..now u understand when they say windows of heaven were opened.

The Bible was written with the concept of the earth being the centre of the universe, flat earth theory, they did not understand the concept of rain formation and precipitation.....now u dig, u ignoramus


How did you arrive at the bold?
Re: Noah : The Real Story - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by dazzlingd(m): 1:57pm On Jun 23, 2019
aytuns:


With all due respect sir, your answers are interesting, and I appreciate how you've been able to search out scientific proofs of biblical occurrences..

I've realised anyway that arguing with people who claim not to believe in God is usually a waste of time.. Cos the more they claim disbelief in God and the Bible, to more foolish they sound. These are people that their very existence points to the workings of a supreme being..

I wish you could write another thread talking on scientific proofs of biblical history.. It's a request.

And you find his argument amusing grin talk of birds of a feather

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