I wonder why atiku is overemphasizing on server results and other electronic means not recognized by law.why cant he order all his agents to produce copies of polling unit result sheets and do a new collation to arrive at the real results? This is even better and more comprehensive.while he was inspecting inec materials in April he should have started a recount of the ballot papers.by now,he would have been done instead of jumping from one online fairy tale to another.let him copy what adeleke,akpabio and others are doing.

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He's simply trying to stir up controversy to remain relevant in 2023.

Why do you think his minions have begun to sing about northern presidency in 2023?

He believes they were manipulated

That's what I explained to someone ooo that he's saying I'm a buhari fan. Inec cannot abandon a result sheet recognised by law for a server result that the law does not recognize. Atiku's lawyers are something else .the target should be on discrediting the results polling unit by polling unit.

That where tampering happened.

The very moment Atiku lost his Polling Unit (in his own home town), it was when he knew he has lost.

Here is why Atiku has gone to court:
- He is trying to save face. He never believed he will lose.
- He wants to stay in the news against 2023.
- By fighting to the end, he will be avoiding repaying those that deposited money to buy NNPC and other national assets.
- By fighting, Atiku and the PDP are trying in vain to discredit the reelection of President Muhammadu Buhari.

Though the manual was highly manipulated, take it or leave it, that would be the stroke for Atiku.

Recall that even INEC computation of the manual result was fraught with irregularities and the numbers didn't add up.

By the time they realize the game plan, it may be too late cos they were made to concentrate only a server

Mynd44:
He believes they were manipulated

But electronic results are more prone to manipulation

aolawale025:
That where tampering happened.

How can tampering happened at polling units where all agents are watching including observers and voters? So it is at the collation centers were only inec staffs were that there were no tampering

Manual result is not part of their Dubai Strategy

They thought the NASS under Saraki will override PMB's decline to the Electoral Act amendment.

netpro:
The very moment Atiku lost his Polling Unit (in his own home town), it was when he knew he has lost.

Here is why Atiku has gone to court:
- He is trying to save face. He never believed he will lose.
- He wants to stay in the news against 2023.
- By fighting to the end, he will be avoiding repaying those that deposited money to buy NNPC and other national assets.
- By fighting, Atiku and the PDP are trying in vain to discredit the reelection of President Muhammadu Buhari.

Sick

The legal team and the petitioners know more than you. They have chosen the best approach to building/sustaining their petition.


If you are an authority on election petition @garfield/senator dave/general Patton, they would have consulted you.

aolawale025:
That where tampering happened.

Tampering happened at the polling units? Are you for real?

I guess Atiku's Polling Unit results were manipulated too. He lost there too.

This server issue was already calculated as a fail safe should Atiku loose the election. Remember while results where still coming in from across the country, the guy already had his own results waiting for him on the server. Not even taking into account technical issues that might even prevent uploading of results as some INEC officials said they did. They planned this even before the election..In January, The INEC chairman even said the commission was not going to transmit election results electronically talk more of collation of results electronically, due to lack of enabling laws. But since their plan was already in the works, it was hard to pull the plug.

asfrank:
This sever issue was already calculated as a fail safe should Atiku loose the election. Remember while results where still coming in from across the country, the guy already had his own results waiting for him on the sever. Not even taking into account technical issues that might even prevent uploading of results as some INEC officials said they did. They planned this even before the election..In January, The INEC chairman even said the commission was not going to transmit election results electronically to more or collation of results electronically, due to lack of enabling laws. But since their plan was already in the works, it was hard to pull the plug.

Of course the server gives real time result nau. Between you that goes to the bank for deposit and he who does same on e-banking who gets alert first?

It is pertinent to note that PDP had party agents stationed across all polling units in Nigeria during the last general election and they all recorded the votes obtained by PDP and other parties. But surprisingly, Atiku doesn't seem to care about that.
My question is what would be the final verdict of the tribunal if they eventually discovered any irregularities with the figures as claimed by Atiku? Order a fresh election or PMB should vacate the seat without causing a major crisis across the states particularly in the north??

tuniski:

Of course the server gives real time result nau. Between you that goes to the bank for deposit and he who does same on e-banking who gets alert first?

what I am saying here is a device with network bar... even ur cellphone, when the network is not strong, u can't browse with it. Haba, is that also impossible, and his major concern was the North, were you hardly find good network in some areas

garfield1:

How can tampering happened at polling units where all agents are watching including observers and voters? So it is at the collation centers were only inec staffs were that there were no tampering

You and I know there were parts of the North that Atiku's agents voted Buhari.....esp in Buhari's massive strongholds of NW...
This is where people were threatened ....

The power of incumbency is too strong in these parts....forget Jonathan (that one doesn't know his right or left).

I don't want to engage in the server issue,because its a subject of Yes and No...INEC is acting funny but I still do not think the server issue is foolpoof for Atiku.

Would election observers enter into the hinterlands in the deepest parts of the Sahara?
Dem no born dem well..........

So let the Courts get to their analysis...but I think its a failed end,they all know what they are doing.....
Give the PDP some extra states and let them shut up.....

tuniski:

Of course the server gives real time result nau. Between you that goes to the bank for deposit and he who does same on e-banking who gets alert first?

Between a stamped bank teller or receipt and an alert that you receive, which one is admissible before law court?
Are you not supposed to present the teller first to prove the alert or the alert is enough?
In this era of fake alerts..
Your thought process ehn..

tuniski:
The legal team and the petitioners know more than you. They have chosen the best approach to building/sustaining their petition.


If you are an authority on election petition @garfield/senator dave/general Patton, they would have consulted you.

And when you lose at the tribunal, you will wail over the whole media.

OAUTemitayo:

And when you lose at the tribunal, you will wail over the whole media.

For what? Perhaps that is for children. Any human contest has lose/fail/defeat as an option.

You are already being emotional on matter that you should be dispassionate.

tuniski:

Of course the server gives real time result nau. Between you that goes to the bank for deposit and he who does same on e-banking who gets alert first?

The server from Dubai could not stand the taste of time. DOA.

OAUTemitayo:

Between a stamped bank teller or receipt and an alert that you receive, which one is admissible before law court?
Are you not supposed to present the teller first to prove the alert or the alert is enough?
In this era of fake alerts..
Your thought process ehn..

They are all admissible in law. Cos you can regenerate the electronic alert from the bank when needed.

This is exactly why INEC must allow access to its server. If the atiku's claim is fake the server will conclusively prove so. Otherwise this govt is toying with legitimacy issue.

Afamed:

The server from Dubai could not stand the taste of time. DOA.

Let INEC allow access to its server. It will only vindicate INEC and rubbish atiku's claim if, they truly dont have result banked there. On the other hand, it will show the ingenuity of #teamAtiku if it turns out to be there.


However,denying access to the server will impunge on the legitimacy of Buhari/apc govt.

asfrank:

what I am saying here is a device with network bar... even ur cellphone, when the network is not strong, u can't browse with it. Haba, is that also impossible, and his major concern was the North, were you hardly find good network in some areas

Yes, where network was bad you upload at the earliest point where you find useable network.

Let apc/buhari focus on the south the petitioner focuses on where and what relevant and sustains his Petition.

fergie001:

You and I know there were parts of the North that Atiku's agents voted Buhari.....esp in Buhari's massive strongholds of NW...
This is where people were threatened ....

The power of incumbency is too strong in these parts....forget Jonathan (that one doesn't know his right or left).

I don't want to engage in the server issue,because its a subject of Yes and No...INEC is acting funny but I still do not think the server issue is foolpoof for Atiku.

Would election observers enter into the hinterlands in the deepest parts of the Sahara?
Dem no born dem well..........

So let the Courts get to their analysis...but I think its a failed end,they all know what they are doing.....
Give the PDP some extra states and let them shut up.....

You have said it all.to add to it,there was rigging in several areas but even without that atiku lost

tuniski:


They are all admissible in law. Cos you can regenerate the electronic alert from the bank when needed.

This is exactly why INEC must allow access to its server. If the atiku's claim is fake the server will conclusively prove so. Otherwise this govt is toying with legitimacy issue.

Inec will allow when the court orders so

Thanks OP. I have been asking the same question on nairaland but the youth of today have decided not to engage in knowledgeable argument.

Atiku court case is to stay relevant till 2023. He is trying to whip up public sympathy of stolen mandate after the court must trash his case. It won't still work.
Pdp knew they won't win the election on ballot . so the best possible way to snatch power back, is to use onnoghen at supreme Court to sell black market justice. or saraki at the Senate to override buhari on new electoral act. Unfortunately for pdp, Buhari and Apc were Ten steps ahead of the Dubai plans.
What Apc needs to nail pdp coffin is Buhari to improve on the performance of last 4yrs then wike and others can continue to fight who buries the carcass of pdp.

tuniski:


They are all admissible in law. Cos you can regenerate the electronic alert from the bank when needed.

This is exactly why INEC must allow access to its server. If the atiku's claim is fake the server will conclusively prove so. Otherwise this govt is toying with legitimacy issue.

So without evidence of deposit which is the teller, you want bank to produce manufacture evidence for you.

Even if it is electronic transaction, you are to provide transaction details so bank can trace.
Dream on o.
Legitimacy issues ko, legal issues ni.

tuniski:

Of course the server gives real time result nau. Between you that goes to the bank for deposit and he who does same on e-banking who gets alert first?

Voting are not done electronically so INEC server (if there is one) cannot give real time results. Voting are done manually, sorted manually, counted manually, recorded manually in the result sheets and then signed by party agents. Transmission of the results in whatever form is done after the manual process recognized by law is completed.

Even though accreditation is done electronically, full data from the process cannot be obtained real time on INEC server because there are so many blind spots without internet connection in the country.

tuniski:


Yes, where network was bad you upload at the earliest point where you find useable network.

Let apc/buhari focus on the south the petitioner focuses on where and what relevant and sustains his Petition.

So now the question of integrity. HE claimed the Manual process was compromised, now one man will record a result on his own, remember manual process everyone including party agents saw was going on. I want to believe Atiku has a case but each time I try to reason its just impossible to win with this Sever strategy. He stood a better chance using electoral irregularities to prove his case.