ivolt:


Actually, it is about miracles or more specifically, testimonies.
That is why the scammers call it "cryptic" because whatever we can't explain
in this part of the world, we term it a miracle.
If they went for IVF, the doctor will explain how the process works which will
spoil the mystery but with cryptic, everything is hidden and the women will be
proud to announce their miraculous birth after 10, 20 or 30 years.

Some of these are not victims but willing participants in the scam, with a higher price,
some dealers are said to allow the buyer to inspect and select the pregnant girl she will buy from.

delishpot:


Your point exactly? So I can Google, proof read and subject my posts.

Duggedised12:
who said it is? But its is more realistic, some people got their children after several tries, some ended up having natural conception after several failed ivf attempts but You can't compare it to this fraudulent procedure that puts the woman's life at risk. Imagine having to have a cs performed on a woman just to play the part. That is just mean, let's not even talk about the women who are held in baby factories where they are taking theses babies from.

Sterope:
After how may tries and at what financial and emotional cost?

With this lie, most of these desperate women get to pay little in return for someone else's baby.

Duggedised12:
so if I get your point, it is the women's fault?

Duggedised12:
if you want another person's baby ,why expose your self to a high risk of getting cancer and unnecessary pain of CS, you make it sound as if this women know they were being played?

ivolt:

Of course, it is totally the women's fault.
The only exception I can make is if the woman is illiterate.

Sterope:
I believe some of them have their suspicions but they would rather not think too deeply about it. While some may just be gullible.

Either way CS and the cost of it all still beats IVF. That is the sad truth.

peteruuu:
Different stuffs happening... All pointing us to the return of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Make me worthy oh Lord.

Duggedised12:
of course they have their suspicions ,but when you have been desperate for a child for a long time, double checking will be the last thing you want to do. Some will not even want it confide in any close friend or relative.

No it doesn't beat ivf, having your own baby that carries your DNA can never be better than stealing a baby ,even if its just a few thousands cheaper. Some fertility clinics even do promos of 500k ivf procedure. So don't get it twisted.

PeachtreeReside:



That women above 30yrs of age who give birth are most likely to do it via scam like the one in the thread.

An educated and learned person would know that due to a lot of factors women above 30 give birth without the need to resort to scams like this.

Even above 40 too.


Sorry if I came across rude with my first post but you make it sound like it's a death sentence or very unlikely to give birth even via natural means after 30yrs.

Adakintroy2:
For me the "psych" behind this has nothing to do with desperation to get pregnant as the doctor has observe. Rather it's more or less desperation to keep shape and body intact not loosing figure to pregnancy.

Sterope:
I am not getting anything twisted. I am considering a desperate woman point of view

1) Cryptic pregnancy is cheaper and certain. IVF is never certain and it can be very expensive. Some are lucky, some aren't, some will never be lucky

2) Some of those who have their suspicions can convince themselves until it becomes the truth. They are certain if getting a baby at the end of it all. IVF requires a lot of faith and hope. The emotional cost of anxiety and depression may not be worth it

3) People overestimate the whole mini-me idea and all other blood related arguments. It is pure sentiment. It is an unpopular opinion but it doesn't make it less true. A child is always going to be a child so far you have dedicated so much to that child.

Once desperation to be called mummy and daddy sets in, biko forget the argument about having a child with your DNA. It beats going through that loop of disappointment for the unlucky and hopeless ones and the financial cost of going through it all.

My point of view is about the women out there who are desperate to have a child. It is not about myself or you.

Duggedised12:
while you have argued for how cheaper and convinient it is for desperate women ,have you stopped to ask youself where the babies are coming from ?
Baby factory is a crime,it is one thing to not know that this is a scam but it is another thing to know and willing agree to be illegally given another person's baby.

There has been instances of babies being stolen from hospitals, young girls being help captive, impregnated and their babies taken from them, there was even a horrible case of a pregnant woman, torn open,left to die and her baby taken,and all you want to do is talk of how it is more convenient to go through a fradulent process?

Adakintroy2:
For me the "psych" behind this has nothing to do with desperation to get pregnant as the doctor has observe. Rather it's more or less desperation to keep shape and body intact not loosing figure to pregnancy.

Sterope:
I know where the babies are coming from and I am aware of all the related consequences. I haven't argued whether it was conscionable or moral. For a woman who is desperate and could not care less, the cryptic option will definitely be the better option.

Duggedised12:
then all the women who participate in it should be be arrested ,they are not diffent from the criminals holding young girls in baby factories. They are the ones encouraging the market for baby factory operators.

And men should start doing DNA test, if the child is not yours send her out.This is the only way since these women have convinced themselves that stealing babies for a price is the only way because they want to cut cost ,ignorance is not an excuse of the law,these women are criminals too as you have made me realize.

Duggedised12:
then all the women who participate in it should be be arrested ,they are not diffent from the criminals holding young girls in baby factories. They are the ones encouraging the market for baby factory operators.

And men should start doing DNA test, if the child is not yours send her out.This is the only way since these women have convinced themselves that stealing babies for a price is the only way because they want to cut cost ,ignorance is not an excuse of the law,these women are criminals too as you have made me realize.

Sterope:
Of course, they are criminals. It is exactly the reason I couldn't fathom why the Doctor didn't send for the NMA or the Nigerian police when a patient walednin and claimed to be carrying cryptic pregnancy

cococandy:
Some men know they are impotent. They would rather pretend like they don’t know the kids isn’t theirs than expose the possibility that the child is stolen or gotten from another man.

As much so called barren women are ridiculed in Nigeria, it’s even a death sentence to a man for the world to hear that he’s impotent. He would rather play ostrich and act like he doesn’t know. A typical naija man who believes he is able to father children will not be likely to stay without trying other women. They already tried and
they know they can’t. That’s why they are complicit with their silence and providing funds for it in some cases.

noblealuu:
What a country... New scams emerging every day


It really baffles me that so-called enlightened folks are easy prey in the hands of scammers

AbuuBilaal:
Nobody is immune to scam. But there are two tips to help you avoid scam:

1- don't ever be desperate to get anything. Desperate people are the target market of scammers. Once you're desperate you'll lose all your rationale and reasoning. It won't matter if you're a professor or Nobel laureate.

2- If it looks too good to be true then it probably is. Exceptionally good offers are usually scams. For example there's this guy that sends Whatsapp broadcast of 400naira for 1gig MTN. This is too good to be true true so it's a red flag.

lucind:
hmm, I know a friend who once told me that his wife was cryptic pregnant, some months later he told me the wife has delivered, me still surprise until I read this post, thank God I now know it's fake. one of my friends is currently carrying this cryptic pregnancy, do I tell her that she is being scammed or not? honestly this is serious o!