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Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Originalsly: 4:37am On Jul 14, 2019
I write from my New York City perspective. This is more for those who are planning on living here illegally. Do not do it... don't jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. Not discouragement.... but enlightenment. Don't count on people to help you...it is a dog eat dog situation. Sooo many opportunities would not be available to you.... for jobs... for housing... for transportation and for certain medical attention... you will have to pay out of pocket.
Today ICE is making sweeps to arrest illegal immigrants. The thing is... wherever they swoop down... they will drag not only their target... but everyone else around to check their status ...then off to the overcrowded detention centers.
Continued...actually...I did not even know I posted the above!

The fear I see while doing my rounds is alarming. People are soooo az fraid of ICE.... they been opening their doors for me at first knock...but now I have to convince them that I am who Insaid I am. If someone wants to host you.... their fear would be what if ICE raids and have them hauled in for harbouring an illegal? The situation is tense here. I know it is worse in other States where the residents are generally supportive of kicking out illegals. It is not surprising that we no longer hear much from those who always advise to stay away from Black areas... settle in White areas. Since Trump.... those people have been silent.
All the above... is just about fear.... fear because one is not legal.

It's a pity that those who are stuck here ... trapped... do not share their experiences... nor tell others of their pitfalls. Somehow... I have the feeling that misery loves company.

On vacation I'm not....status changed. For me.... to begin with... I was pressured to come by family members resident here. Feeding...clothing... housing... all transportation.... going to interviews... etc..... I had tremendous support. ...but that was my circumstances ...I didn't even have to look... my landing was well prepared.... all I needed to do was leap. What is your circumstances?...is your landing prepared? That's what this is all about.
My advice to anyone...visit first... before making a decision. You will see things from a wider perspective ... and be in a position to make good decisions.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by pussyeater: 5:03am On Jul 14, 2019
Tell them Ooh

According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement statistics, 256,085 people were deported in fiscal year 2018, up from 226,119 removals in fiscal year 2017.

That's still significantly less than the number of people deported during fiscal year 2012, when the Obama administration deported more than 400,000 people.

Staffing limitations and budget constraints generally limit how many people the US can detain and deport -- and how quickly that process happens. While the Trump administration has said it still focuses on criminals, there was an uptick in the number of people arrested by ICE without criminal records. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.

In Trump's first year, ICE arrested 109,000 criminals and 46,000 people without criminal records -- a 171% increase in the number of non-criminal individuals arrested compared to 2016.

CNN first reported in May that the administration had been considering deporting migrant families with court-ordered removals in an attempt to "send a message" to smugglers, according to a senior administration official.

As part of the consideration, the administration had been looking at an operation rolled out in the late years of Obama's presidency -- and revived in Trump's first year in office -- that also targeted families.



In 2017, ICE apprehended 650 individuals during a four-day operation, dubbed Operation Border Guardian/Border Resolve, which targeted families and unaccompanied children. According to the agency, it was the second iteration of the operation which had also taken place at the start of 2016 following an uptick in families and unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally.

Similar to the upcoming ICE operation, all individuals had court-ordered removals.

CNN's Catherine E. Shoichet contributed to this report.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Sirmuel1(m): 5:14am On Jul 14, 2019
Trump is sweeping out illegal immigrants, and not the ones that migrated legally. By the way, USA is not the only Country in the World.

If i have the opportunity, I would leave Nigeria and never come back again.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by pussyeater: 5:37am On Jul 14, 2019
Sirmuel1:
Trump is sweeping out illegal immigrants, and not the ones that migrated legally. By the way, USA is not the only Country in the World.
If i have the opportunity, I would leave Nigeria and never come back again.
It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by KendrickAyomide: 7:16am On Jul 14, 2019
But you overstayed your Visa na. your vacation in Newyork neverr Ended.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Sirmuel1(m): 8:26am On Jul 14, 2019
pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!


Keep deceiving yourself.
If you were a citizen in Canada, you won't talk this way

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 10:54am On Jul 14, 2019
you've said enough, is it your flee? let them flee it's none of your business.


if I have the opportunity to flee today, legally or illegally; I won't hesitate.


having said that, aren't you in newyork on vacation since 2018, tell us something else.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 10:57am On Jul 14, 2019
U can't even get usa visit visa in the first place

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Kingkun69(m): 11:38am On Jul 14, 2019
pussyeater:

It's the Greatest Country on earth. Take it or leave it!!!
leave them
They all say it isnt because they can't get in

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 12:08pm On Jul 14, 2019
Joromi12:
U can't even get usa visit visa in the first place

true that

but people still get sha

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by seanwilliam(m): 12:52pm On Jul 14, 2019
Sirmuel1:



Keep deceiving yourself.
If you were a citizen in Canada, you won't talk this way
stop deceiving ur self for cheap like on nairaland. if you are given resident+job in the two, which will u choose?. America is and will be the greatest( whatever greatness means to u ) country in the world

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by salford1: 3:11pm On Jul 14, 2019
Sirmuel1:



Keep deceiving yourself.
If you were a citizen in Canada, you won't talk this way
I am a Citizen of Canada, and he is right. USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. grin

I have learnt to seperate patriotism from reality.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Hadampson(m): 3:18pm On Jul 14, 2019
seanwilliam:
stop deceiving ur self for cheap like on nairaland. if you are given resident+job in the two, which will u choose?. America is and will be the greatest( whatever greatness means to u ) country in the world


For me, Germany is the best country in the world. To each his own. You can't force him to accept USA as the best country in the world. One man food is another man's poison

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by seanwilliam(m): 3:53pm On Jul 14, 2019
Hadampson:



For me, Germany is the best country in the world. To each his own. You can't force him to accept that USA is the best country in the world. One man food is another man's poison
u are right bro. i respect ur opinion but we choose to ignore FACT most times to satisfy our desire. #fact, america aint mate with germany, compare germany with russia/japan

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Hadampson(m): 5:24pm On Jul 14, 2019
seanwilliam:
u are right bro. i respect ur opinion but we choose to ignore FACT most times to satisfy our desire. #fact, america aint mate with germany, compare germany with russia/japan

Bro, comparing Russia with Germany is like comparing Congo with Nigeria. Dem no be mate

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Sirmuel1(m): 5:24pm On Jul 14, 2019
seanwilliam:
stop deceiving ur self for cheap like on nairaland. if you are given resident+job in the two, which will u choose?. America is and will be the greatest( whatever greatness means to u ) country in the world


Which cheap likes are you talking about? That doesn't bother me.


Honestly, I love USA, But I would pick CANADA!

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Americanboy35: 6:04pm On Jul 14, 2019
This US wey i dey na the best so far o

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by seanwilliam(m): 6:49pm On Jul 14, 2019
Sirmuel1:


Which cheap likes are you talking about? That doesn't bother me.

Honestly, I love USA, But I would pick CANADA!
ur choice anyway
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by seanwilliam(m): 6:50pm On Jul 14, 2019
Hadampson:


Bro, comparing Russia with Germany is like comparing Congo with Nigeria. Dem no be mate
which is better?

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Hadampson(m): 8:38pm On Jul 14, 2019
seanwilliam:
which is better?


You know the answer already bro. It's obvious

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by seanwilliam(m): 8:48pm On Jul 14, 2019
Hadampson:



You know the answer already bro. It's obvious
depends on the criterion bro. technologically and economically it is germany but millitarily and politically, it is russia

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Ugosample(m): 8:52pm On Jul 14, 2019
salford1:

I am a Citizen of Canada, and he is right. USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. grin

I have learnt to seperate patriotism from reality.

EXACTLY

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Beautyaddy: 9:18pm On Jul 14, 2019
Originalsly:
I write from my New York City perspective. This is more for those who are planning on living here illegally. Do not do it... don't jump out of the frying pan and into the fire. Not discouragement.... but enlightenment. Don't count on people to help you...it is a dog eat dog situation. Sooo many opportunities would not be available to you.... for jobs... for housing... for transportation and for certain medical attention... you will have to pay out of pocket.
Today ICE is making sweeps to arrest illegal immigrants. The thing is... wherever they swoop down... they will drag not only their target... but everyone else around to check their status ...then off to the overcrowded detention centers.
Continued...actually...I did not even know I posted the above!

The fear I see while doing my rounds is alarming. People are soooo az fraid of ICE.... they been opening their doors for me at first knock...but now I have to convince them that I am who Insaid I am. If someone wants to host you.... their fear would be what if ICE raids and have them hauled in for harbouring an illegal? The situation is tense here. I know it is worse in other States where the residents are generally supportive of kicking out illegals. It is not surprising that we no longer hear much from those who always advise to stay away from Black areas... settle in White areas. Since Trump.... those people have been silent.
All the above... is just about fear.... fear because one is not legal.

It's a pity that those who are stuck here ... trapped... do not share their experiences... nor tell others of their pitfalls. Somehow... I have the feeling that misery loves company.

On vacation I'm not....status changed. For me.... to begin with... I was pressured to come by family members resident here. Feeding...clothing... housing... all transportation.... going to interviews... etc..... I had tremendous support. ...but that was my circumstances ...I didn't even have to look... my landing was well prepared.... all I needed to do was leap. What is your circumstances?...is your landing prepared? That's what this is all about.
My advice to anyone...visit first... before making a decision. You will see things from a wider perspective ... and be in a position to make good decisions.


There is no need to scare people away from going to the US legally on a visiting or student visas.

After their three months legal stay in the US they can get an American to fall in love, marry and then can change their temporary status to permanent status via adjustment of status to obtain a green card. Unfortunately this is one of the weak US immigration loopholes that most visiting and student immigrants have used and are still using.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 4:28am On Jul 15, 2019
pussyeater:
Tell them Ooh

According to Immigration and Customs Enforcement statistics, 256,085 people were deported in fiscal year 2018, up from 226,119 removals in fiscal year 2017.

That's still significantly less than the number of people deported during fiscal year 2012, when the Obama administration deported more than 400,000 people.

Staffing limitations and budget constraints generally limit how many people the US can detain and deport -- and how quickly that process happens. While the Trump administration has said it still focuses on criminals, there was an uptick in the number of people arrested by ICE without criminal records. Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor.

In Trump's first year, ICE arrested 109,000 criminals and 46,000 people without criminal records -- a 171% increase in the number of non-criminal individuals arrested compared to 2016.

CNN first reported in May that the administration had been considering deporting migrant families with court-ordered removals in an attempt to "send a message" to smugglers, according to a senior administration official.

As part of the consideration, the administration had been looking at an operation rolled out in the late years of Obama's presidency -- and revived in Trump's first year in office -- that also targeted families.



In 2017, ICE apprehended 650 individuals during a four-day operation, dubbed Operation Border Guardian/Border Resolve, which targeted families and unaccompanied children. According to the agency, it was the second iteration of the operation which had also taken place at the start of 2016 following an uptick in families and unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally.

Similar to the upcoming ICE operation, all individuals had court-ordered removals.

CNN's Catherine E. Shoichet contributed to this report.

Nigerians and I too know syndrome. These are people ordered to leave by the Judiciary and they are 2000. Which they have been served order of removal since Feburary.

Don't come here and type rubbish without first going through the Order. Mostly targeted are the Mexicans and South Americans.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by NONNYG: 5:22am On Jul 15, 2019
Beautyaddy:


There is no need to scare people away from going to the US legally on a visiting or student visas.

After their three months legal stay in the US they can get an American to fall in love, marry and then can change their temporary status to permanent status via adjustment of status to obtain a green card. Unfortunately this is one of the weak US immigration loopholes that most visiting and student immigrants have used and are still using.
That was exactly the same thing OP didgrin

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Best201195(m): 6:42am On Jul 15, 2019
NONNYG:
That was exactly the same thing OP didgrin

Exactly grin grin

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Hadampson(m): 7:34am On Jul 15, 2019
seanwilliam:
depends on the criterion bro. technologically and economically it is germany but millitarily and politically, it is russia
Agreed smiley
Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 7:40am On Jul 15, 2019
Yea you're right, the streets of Los Angeles right now is empty, I mean it's Sunday night. Alot of Mexicans who hang around have gone underground. This clampdown is more on people who have committed offences even traffic offences are at high risk now and also those who were denied assylum by courts.
If you're an illegal immigrant, watch your back and don't trust anyone now.

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Re: Fleeing To The US ... A Word To The Wise. by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jul 15, 2019
salford1:

I am a Citizen of Canada, and he is right. USA is indeed the greatest country in the world. grin

I have learnt to seperate patriotism from reality.

Are you for real or just being sarcastic?

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