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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 7:47am On Aug 08|
LoJ:Charming. What a very colorful language and that coming from a "sage". Smh
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 11:20am On Aug 08|
Are you saying none of the answers provided so far are correct
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 11:57am On Aug 08|
LoJ:Isn't it funny how I who asked you the question is satisfied by your response. Incidentally, the post that makes up this thread was in response to the same individual!
I should pay £50 for answers because that was a clue.
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 1:57pm On Aug 08|
Jesus expressly admonishes:
Matthew 6: 19- 21
Do not lay up for yourself treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourself treasures in heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is there your heart will be also.
From this, we can see that the man who put his money in a vault will lose focus on the things above.
While his total cash may amount to 480 pounds, he will miss out on eternal rewards which are far more valuable than all the money in the world. So in the end he has nothing.
So, a wiser man would focus on the things above and not lay up fleeting treasures.
PS: I read through this thread again and no one mentioned this verse.
If the answer is simple, then God is answering. -- Albert Einstein.
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 3:42pm On Aug 08|
Ranchhoddas:Your money flies away before you know it, just like an eagle suddenly taking off."
- Proverbs 23:5
"Teach those who are rich in this world not to be proud and not to trust in their money, which is so unreliable. Their trust should be in God, who richly gives us all we need for our enjoyment."
- 1 Timothy 6:17
I considered the verse but when I reviewed it properly I came to the conclusion it doesnt merit mentioning it, so I instead used Proverbs 23:5 and 1 Timothy 6:17, as in the two above
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 3:49pm On Aug 08|
Another angle and attempt budaatum
"Why should a fool have money in his hand to buy wisdom when he doesn't have a mind to grasp anything?"
(i.e. It does a fool no good to spend money on an education, because he has no common sense.)
- Proverbs 17:16
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by LoJ: 3:51pm On Aug 08|
budaatum:baba I dey wait you already have my contact
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 4:20pm On Aug 08|
"18But the servant who had received one thousand coins went off, dug a hole in the ground, and hid his master's money. (i.e. in a vault, I would guess)
19After a long time their master returned from his trip and called them to give an account of how they had used his money."
- Matthew 25:18-19
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 5:32pm On Aug 08|
MuttleyLaff:Hear in KJV:
"Wherefore is there a price in the hand of a fool to get wisdom, seeing he hath no heart to it?"
No heart to getting wisdom, or no heart to pay the price of getting wisdom? The same wisdom that crieth out in the public square, "please simple, have some?"
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 5:35pm On Aug 08|
Ranchhoddas:What is meant by treasures?
How does one store the meant treasures where moths nor dust can't destroy it and where thieves cannot break in and steal it?
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 6:42pm On Aug 08|
A valued or a valuable item. --- Oxford dictionary
How one can store or should not store treasures can be seen from the parable of the rich fool.
Luke 12: 13-- 21 (NIV)
Someone in the crowd said to him,
"Teacher tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me"
Jesus replied; "man who appointed me a judge or an arbiter between you" Then he said to them "watch out, be on your guard against all kinds of greed; "life does not consist in an abundance of possessions"
And he told them this parable: "The ground of a certain rich man yielded an abundant harvest."
"He thought to himself; what shall I do? I have no place to store my crops."
"Then he said, this is what I'll do. I'll tear down my barns and build bigger ones, and there I'll store my surplus grain. And I'll say to myself, you have plenty of grain laid up for many years. Take life easy, eat drink and be merry."
"But God said to him: you fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. The who will get what you have prepared for yourself."
This is how it would be for whoever stores up things for themselves but is not rich toward God
Form the foregoing verses, we can see that while we might think that our treasures are our money, jewellery, or other material things we think valuable. Jesus has a different definition: our life, our soul. That's the real treasure
What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 6:49pm On Aug 08|
Ranchhoddas:So, "the real treasure" is "our life and our soul"?
How does one lose one's life and one's soul, and where does one store one's life and soul so moths nor dust can't destroy it and where thieves cannot break in and steal it?
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 6:55pm On Aug 08|
budaatum:We can do this by focusing on things that can not be bought. Love, kindness, humility and generally being virtuous.
A Christian (the Nigerian type) might say that Jesus meant piety, devotion and righteousness/holiness.
I choose to be less rigid. A mother's love for example cannot be bought, neither can little acts of kindness or charity.
I think the whole storing of treasures in the right manner can be reduced to the golden rule. "Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you".
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 6:56pm On Aug 08|
budaatum:I have added something else. Kindly check.
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 7:11pm On Aug 08|
Ranchhoddas:Sounds like one is the fruit of the other. 'In as much as one does these things - "Love, kindness, humility and generally being virtuous" to those whom one sees, one has done these things - "piety, devotion and righteousness/holiness" to/for/by/ the Lord God Almighty whom one seest not'.
How then is it treasure, and what is meant by storing it?
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 8:34pm On Aug 08|
budaatum:Remember that the definition of treasure is something valuable. So that things that we do to those we see are valuable to those who are on the receiving end of those acts. We also receive them in many folds.
Give and it shall be given unto you, good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over shall men give to you.
The Lord God we do not see also treasures our act of piety/devotion/ and righteousness and also rewards us for them.
We can see this in the life of King Solomon who pleased God with his sacrifice that God asked him to make any demand he so desired.
God inhabits the praises of his people. Psalm 22 vs 3.
It is treasure because it is valuable to those who it is directed towards.
To understand how it is stored, we only have to look at the parable of the talents already touched by an earlier commenter.
To store means to make use of it in an appropriate and productive manner. Whatever talents (treasure) we have been entrusted with, we are to use it for the benefit of others and to the glory of God instead of being selfish (hoarding it) like the unfaithful servant and the hypothetical man in your opening post.
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 1:55am On Aug 09|
Ranchhoddas:Thank you. A question. The unfaithful servant hid his master's wealth and put it not to profit. My hypothetical person just had a pound put in a vault every month and not where it would be stolen or eaten by moths. Where are they similar?
One more question. Why should one use one's treasure and talents "for the benefit of others"? Let me shout this please, Why, Ranchhonddas should anyone use their talents for the benefit of others? Do those others include the lazy modafuqas yelling, "Crucify him"? Should one be the messiah?
Pardon my shouting, its shock.
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 4:08am On Aug 09|
budaatum:Here is another slant to all this keeping a pound in a vault business.
1/ What is the goal of this 40 year old man with the idea of putting a dollar away in a vault, hmm?
2/ Does this man consider the impact of inflation on his buried and hidden away savings, hmm?
3/ Does he understand at all that the money hes put in the vault, is going to be eroded by inflation, hmm?
4/ Does he know there are better money saving ideas than hiding money away in a vault, hmm?
5/ Whats my #5 question again. Its skipped my mind. Sorry.
budaatum:"No one lights a lamp and puts it under a basket (i.e. or in a vault, I would guess). Instead, everyone who lights a lamp puts it on a lamp stand. Then its light shines on everyone in the house.
(i.e. people don't light a lamp and put it under a basket but on a lamp stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.)"
- Matthew 5:15
"But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
- Luke 6:27
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 7:32am On Aug 09|
budaatum:They are similar in that they both think they are doing the right thing. What they have in common is their lack of knowledge. Money stored rots.
It can be stolen, attacked by moths etc. Money put to good use/invested multiplies and is a blessing to the investor and those around him.
One more question. Why should one use one's treasure and talents "for the benefit of others"? Let me shout this please, Why, Ranchhonddas should anyone use their talents for the benefit of others? Do those others include the lazy modafuqas yelling, "Crucify him"? Should one be the messiah?We should use our talents for the benefits of others because there is no better way to use them. A life of sacrifice and helping others brings more fulfillment than any other.
If you don't, you are cheating yourself anyway.
Selfishness/miserliness helps no one. Not even the miser. I remember reading somewhere that the miser is as wretched as the spendthrift. Talent must be put to good use.
The messiah prayed for his killers on the cross saying " Father forgive them for they KNOW NOT what they do"
So the matter turns on knowledge. We should also include our would-be crucifiers because they wouldn't crucify us if they knew better.
Our acts of virtue can also show them the error of their ways.
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 8:44am On Aug 09|
budaatum:I Am Still Trying To Understand How You Intend To Quantify Intelligence into Measurements Of "how Much"
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 8:52am On Aug 09|
budaatum:If By saying "Pound" you Mean "Intellect"...
Who Saves Up Intelligence without Using It? Then It Dries up Of Cause...
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 9:16am On Aug 09|
My dearest friend, my guy Ranchhoddas, is working hard for the money, very hard for the money. No relenting whatsoever
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 10:07am On Aug 09|
I must get my share of the windfall mehhn
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by Ranchhoddas: 10:08am On Aug 09|
IamPlato:Let it be known that I referred this dude.
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 1:41pm On Aug 09|
Ranchhoddas:Is The Giving Money Part For Real? Or Just A Joke
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 2:47pm On Aug 09|
IamPlato:Pound is money, wisdom, learning, knowledge, intelligence, abilities, skill, goodwill, talents, logos, pound, soul, life etc. Some have at least defined it as such.
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 3:09pm On Aug 09|
IamPlato:Why, "How You"? Me, buda, Intends To Quantify Intelligence into Measurements Of "how Much"? How much what? Intelligenes? Intels?
It indeed will be funny, and a grave error on my part, in a thread specifically opposing the creation of graven images (muttley, remind us please!), and while I'm waiting for hakeem4 to let me know what he intends to measure a god with.
Kindly show me where Plato. I will be misleading and that must be corrected.
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by MuttleyLaff: 3:54pm On Aug 09|
budaatum:It really is true that ever since God took the risk to create human beings in his image and likeness, human beings, wasted no time, in having the boldness to reciprocate the gesture back. Human beings, to date are responding by making their own graven image and likeness of God version(s)
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 4:04pm On Aug 09|
MuttleyLaff:We do "God is like that, God is like this", according to our own puny minds.
This was you.
My response is this thread. Anyone wanna work out what the gibberish means yet?
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by budaatum: 5:20pm On Aug 09|
Ranchhoddas:The above, in fact sounds like Platonism's "Form of the Good", the "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Christianity, the goal of the Philosopher King who reigns in heaven, those who would be the Messiah of the world and not that of everybody else who is ruled or waiting to be saved.
I can't help think Christians are meant to learn to bear their own cross first before helping remove the twig from the eyes of others. Or can those with forests in their eye bear the cross of another? Are there not even some who go about, some intentionally some mistakenly, planting forests in their own and other people's eye instead of pruning branches?
Though Paul can't help his mysticism and the Word lieth not. The issue is, why give my wealth to lazy manna people? Is it not true anymore that sowers reap? Must more blood be shed for salvation?
Please note that my explanatorys so far constitute clues to the right answer, which, going by my reckoning, leaves a token sum for anyone who gets the answer right. I'll double it for ingenuity. Meanwhile, here's a rich man who might feed the starving. As for buda, you all have brains. If you used it you will be blessed. And the work is plenty but the workers few.
|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by IamPlato(m): 5:24pm On Aug 09|
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|Re: Paypal £100, Right Answer! by TruthinAction: 5:36pm On Aug 09|
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