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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by King44(m): 9:06am On Aug 04, 2019
seguntijan:
Corruption has grown to be an Ideology in Nigeria.
Any revolution in Nigeria would create a new type of corrupt system.
Those craving for revolution are the unfavoured class, they are singing: " "Do something new in my life'
Those against revolution are the favoured, their song is simple: "It shall be permanent, what the lord has done for me, it shall be permanent*
Whereas, some of us are at the centre of the Spectrum, whether revolution or not, we just need our share of the large cake, whether revolution or reforms.
Why I now say , corruption is ideological is that the two cries or songs are products of interest
I agree with you pa! this is how tinubu became jagaban they all have ulterior motives that would be revealed in time, but if the government wants to arrest arrest based on concrete evidence of rebellion not mere talk, buhari mehn I am just short if words it even pains me more to hear that Atiku is the best alternative to buhari these are bunch of don't do wells who once ruled and instead of them to take a back seat and help the country nature those who will put the country on track they came back or planning to come back n loot, one is even shouting kill kwaruption now na kwaruption dey kill us for this country, we don't even know who is winning between Mr Kwaruption n Buhari it seems both of them have called a round table n starting harvesting from the country already

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ElsonMorali: 9:08am On Aug 04, 2019
Revolution is not something you plan openly. It's usually something that takes the leadership/government by surprise.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by King44(m): 9:08am On Aug 04, 2019
1x2x3:


Something can be done when the masses get up and leave their dossile positions. I haven't seen a country where citizens will watch politicians loot them dry.
you haven't what? Nigeria is a case study you can loot anything dry just pitch your tent with the right party n people anything is possible in the political areana

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ithink7: 9:08am On Aug 04, 2019
The government of that time at least allowed people to protest but latter interrupted the protest because they thought it might turn violent.
Allow people to protest in peace or they'll protest with violence. When the majority doesn't want you anymore, there's nothing you can do about it unless you want to end up like Abacha.

koboko69:

Some of u have really short memories or let me say deliberate amnesia. Was it a fulani government that deployed soldiers during occupy Nigeria, was it a Fulani Government that deployed soldiers nationwide to sieze newspapers and invade newsmedia houses? Weather fulanuli, yoruba or igbo government, will the government sit and watch someone threaten a rovolution? Stick to the topic and stop all these childish rants.

Unfortunately this does not answer the question

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 9:08am On Aug 04, 2019
Boyooosa:


A question for you at this point:
that a BAD neighbour of yours in a very low voice to your ears, says 'tonight, me and my gangs are coming to deal with you'.
what will be your lines of action? kindly enumerate step by step in a very sincere way.
Note: This is somebody that has seen you with his girlfriend earlier but didnt know that you were only advising her against her waywardness you noticed recently. This has been a guy that beefs you because you go to work minding your business and try to be responsible as much as you can. This is also a guy you know that he fraternizes with a couple of deadly guys in your neighbourhood full of envy, particularly to your little success.
I wish you respond to this and thanks as you do so...

In civilised countries, if some says they will do you harm, you report the police. It will be the job if the police to take from there.

However, this has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Sowore asked people to come out and join him in protest, which is his constitutional right. The fact that he called his protest a 'revolution' is what people are making noise about.

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Stillthebest: 9:08am On Aug 04, 2019
lexy2014:


Pls which word did Shiite use?
..
Is he fighting for Shiites or Nigerians(which Shiite movement is just an Integra part of).. Warriors don't fight like commoners.. well educated people use proper vehicles to channel a course.. a blind fight will earn us nothing but reject by the people who were hailing u to go.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Stillthebest: 9:10am On Aug 04, 2019
Livefreeordieha:
I'm moved by ur comments... U are blessed richly with a proper discerning mind. Ur future is bright bro..

Thanks sir. U too

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Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Sonnobax15(m): 9:11am On Aug 04, 2019
1x2x3:



No reasonable govt in the world would keep mismanaging and looting public funds and still rob it to the face of the people.

Respect is earned not given. Going by that, Nigerian leaders doesn't deserve a single respect.
Please such advice should be given to libya 4 accepting revolution whole-heartedly...we don't want that here in 9ja..
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ithink7: 9:11am On Aug 04, 2019
You can sit in your house until Fulani herdsmen come and slaughter you and your family. They're already in the forest and on the roads, so you need to watch your back now and don't travel outside your city.

WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by tegrianonigltd(m): 9:13am On Aug 04, 2019
koboko69:

Some of u have really short memories or let me say deliberate amnesia. Was it a fulani government that deployed soldiers during occupy Nigeria, was it a Fulani Government that deployed soldiers nationwide to sieze newspapers and invade newsmedia houses? Weather fulanuli, yoruba or igbo government, will the government sit and watch someone threaten a rovolution? Stick to the topic and stop all these childish rants.

Unfortunately this does not answer the question


No Dey support evil, until they kidnap you or your family, maybe then your mindset go change, Evil is Evil don’t justify if you are actually paid. This is not democracy, check out Donald Trump, China President , Putin, see how pro actively Dey run a country, boasting economies, men with ideas, goal, dreams, ambitions, Buhari have none, all in his head is kwaruftion, he doesn’t even know the true meaning or how to tackle it
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Pvssy: 9:13am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


In civilised countries, if some says they will do you harm, you report the police. It will be the job if the police to take from there.

However, this has nothing to do with what is being discussed. Sowore asked people to come out and join him in protest, which is his constitutional right. The fact that he called his protest a 'revolution' is what people are making noise about.

And threatened the state security servuce. No where in Earth can this be tried that won't land him in long term jail. He is just weeks into his long jail term.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Pvssy: 9:15am On Aug 04, 2019
tegrianonigltd:



No Dey support evil, until they kidnap you or your family, maybe then your mindset go change, Evil is Evil don’t justify if you are actually paid. This is not democracy, check out Donald Trump, China President , Putin, see how pro actively Dey run a country, boasting economies, men with ideas, goal, dreams, ambitions, Buhari have none, all in his head is kwaruftion, he doesn’t even know the true meaning or how to tackle it


Trust me! you can't wail till 2023. You will get tired!
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Pvssy: 9:16am On Aug 04, 2019
ElsonMorali:
Revolution is not something you plan openly. It's usually something that takes the leadership/government by surprise.


Enlighten the lots Buhari called majority of them illiterates.

They planned a revolution and notified the government! grin
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by izucarbon(m): 9:17am On Aug 04, 2019
I support revolution 100% but the so call tribe and religion has destroyed our true nature
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 9:17am On Aug 04, 2019
Pvssy:


And threatened the state security servuce. No where in Earth can this be tried that won't land him in long term jail. He is just weeks into his long jail term.

What I see about Africans is that their thinking is too backwards. An unarmed man like Sowore is what you call threat to the armed security forces? How is that possible?
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by SaintLucia: 9:17am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


Use your brains. Which group would plan to rob CBN then first inform them that they are coming? You really thing that a group that truly wants to rob a federal institution like CBN would warn CBN ahead so they can put adequate security measures in place?

I dont know what this has to do with the fact that Sowore called for a mass protest, which the constitution allows him to do, and he was arrested for it.



It may interest you to know that it was the Federal Government that made Boko haram what it is today. Boko haram started as a protest group that was against Western education. Rather than your government to engage them, they rushed in, captured their leader Dikko Yusuf and several members, slaughtered them in broad daylight. What did that achieve? Shekau took over, armed what was left of them and started fighting Nigeria.

Today, over 200,000 Nigerians are dead, millions are displaced and billions of Naira that Nigeria could have used for other things have been spent fighting boko haram for the last 10 years

All for what? If the government had engaged Boko haram in dialogue when they were just protesting against western education, we may not have been in this situation. If government had killed Nnamdi Kanu or El Zakzaky when they came for them, some of their followers would have taken up arms like Boko haram. We keep repeating the same mistakes. Now it is Sowore, just because he wants to protest against government
So you never hear say armed robbers dey write letter and send it to some particular streets that we are coming to rob you? And you will see the people in that streets trying to do everything possible to prevent such risk, some people in that street may even leave their house for safety. My point Sowore is a fool. Go back and read where revolution has taken place. It has never happened in a Democratic state. U want to overthrow a legitimate government just because u lost election and want people to wear orange beret that carry your party logo.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by 1x2x3: 9:18am On Aug 04, 2019
Sonnobax15:
Please such advice should be given to libya 4 accepting revolution whole-heartedly...we don't want that here in 9ja..

You are probably among the politicians or a relative. You don't want revolution but you want looting and everyday killings.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by justmi1: 9:19am On Aug 04, 2019
What sowore is trying to do is what majority of Nigerians want and need, as a matter of fact, many feel it's long overdue but who wan die? ( we all scared and selfish, including sowore, if not why did run for office of president)

Now, sowore, from my point of view is trying to do the " right" thing the "wrong" way. Even if the idea is a revolution, he shouldn't have presented it as such, at least in public, as NO GOVERNMENT in the world would sit idly by and allow its overthrow.

But ofcourse Nigerians are tired of hearing protests and the word revolution is the only way to get people to support the movement ( let's see who would come out tomorrow).

Tommorow would really determine what we really want, a deserted protest tomorrow means we are doomed by the ruling class, ( sowore maybe offered a package and go underground) or an impressive turnout could be the beginning of the much desired " change"

Note that most revolutions don't start with an announcement of revolution - it begins with protest so only a stupid government would not pick up the organizer of a revolution - it is treasonable felony.

I believe sowore knows better and knows the card he is playing, I pray he gets support or else he is so on his own.

Enough said!!!
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by alphaNomega: 9:20am On Aug 04, 2019
midolian:


Rqbbish!!
Myopic!!


So if a group of people write the CBN they are coming to rob, you expect the government to sit and watch when they know the identity of these people just because we are in a democratic setting?

And when they come to rob and the incidence claim lives and properties, it is you and your people that will blame the government for being too "slow"

Bokoharam started with the ideology of Western Education is a sin..it started like they were preaching the gospel...see where we are today!
If the government had done the needful when the movement was a baby, only God knows if we would be having any boko nightmare now...

Some of these systems were never designed for the black man.
grin
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Pvssy: 9:21am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


What I see about Africans is that their thinking is too backwards. An unarmed man like Sowore is what you call threat to the armed security forces? How is that possible?

Oh! So he should be underated until he manifests it.

Like you forgot Shites were unarmed but wrecked havoc!

I repeat! You can't issue such threat anywhere in the world and won't be behind bars as of date.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Adayi1(m): 9:23am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


You still dont get it. We are in a democracy. People should be allowed to say whatever they like. What matters is what people do. You cannot charge a person to court for 'talking'. If Sowore likes, he can protest that he wants Buhari to step down. If Sowore likes , he can protest that he wants Snow to fall in Lagos. The constitution has given him the right to protest for whatever reason. The constitution has also given him the right of free speech as long as what he says is not being used to commit crime. If the authorities have any evidence that Sowore wants to use the protest to fo something unlawful, then they should arrest and charge him to court

But if the authorities arrested him because he mentioned the word 'revolution' or that he said he wants 'bundle Buhari out of office' then this arresting a man for merely talking.

If governments start going after people for what they said, as opposed to what they do, then it is no longer democracy, it is dictatorship.

If you cannot understand all this and still insist that the government is right to go after Sowore because of the words he used then it means you dont understand democracy and how it works
Weldone Sir, I have read all your arguments. You can now go and release Sowore from captivity. On a serious note, the man Sowore knows what he is getting into and he is ready to take all the risk that goes with it. No Government anywhere in the world will hear that word 'Revolution' against him and keep calm.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by seguntijan(m): 9:23am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


So is it now right to arrest people for using the wrong word?

Actions hasn't been done, so they just take precautionary measures base on their words.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Mouhstorph5(m): 9:23am On Aug 04, 2019
seguntijan:
Corruption has grown to be an Ideology in Nigeria.
Any revolution in Nigeria would create a new type of corrupt system.
Those craving for revolution are the unfavoured class, they are singing: " "Do something new in my life'
Those against revolution are the favoured, their song is simple: "It shall be permanent, what the lord has done for me, it shall be permanent*
Whereas, some of us are at the centre of the Spectrum, whether revolution or not, we just need our share of the large cake, whether revolution or reforms.
Why I now say , corruption is ideological is that the two cries or songs are products of interest




I commend your intellectual conclusion man!
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 9:24am On Aug 04, 2019
Stillthebest:
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Is he fighting for Shiites or Nigerians(which Shiite movement is just an Integra part of).. Warriors don't fight like commoners.. well educated people use proper vehicles to channel a course.. a blind fight will earn us nothing but reject by the people who were hailing u to go.

According 2u: "Sowore shouldn't have used the word 'revolution' a protest will do".

We are talking about choice of words& d kind of message they transmit. I didn't ask whether he is fighting 4 Shiites or not. What word did d Shiites use? Revolution or protest?

I don't no what u mean by "well educated people use proper vehicles to channel a course". Maybe u can shed some light on it as well as ur comment that "Warriors don't fight like commoners". Who are d "warriors" and who are d "commoners"?
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by modsfucker: 9:24am On Aug 04, 2019
gidgiddy:


Exactly, you allow people to protest then if the protest turns violent, then you can call in the Army to restore law and order.

This has nothing to do with overthrowing government. When Sowore was calling for a revolution, he said he wants people to come out and join him in protest against the direction Nigeria is heading. He never said anything about taking up arms or being violent.

Arresting Sowore because he mentioned the word 'revolution' would be tantamount to arresting people simply for talking.

Only somebody armed can overthrow a government. So if Sowore and his group are not armed and only want to on a protest which they call 'revolution', then arresting him is only because he talked.

We are in a democracy where people have freedom of speech. The authorities should not be arresting people for merely talking. That is very bad and takes us back to the days of the military where saying the wrong words could land one in jail

Then blame the culprit for wrong choice of words.... Revolution is revolution... Revolt, Forceful takeover of Government, forcing a regime change
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by amaben2020(m): 9:25am On Aug 04, 2019
WiLdFLame:
Only jobless and unpatriotic support this shits. If you ipobs wants revolution. Good and fine . Take it to southeast. Let the second Biafra war start and the little development there be destroyed. It's for the better of Southwest. Shebi una talk say una wan no wise ba. I don't know why the igbos hates Buhari much.

You are a big imbecilee, monumental failure and a dysfunctional sperm from a nympho mom, leave the Igbos out of your frustrations and poverty, bastard
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by seguntijan(m): 9:29am On Aug 04, 2019
King44:
I agree with you pa! this is how tinubu became jagaban they all have ulterior motives that would be revealed in time, but if the government wants to arrest arrest based on concrete evidence of rebellion not mere talk, buhari mehn I am just short if words it even pains me more to hear that Atiku is the best alternative to buhari these are bunch of don't do wells who once ruled and instead of them to take a back seat and help the country nature those who will put the country on track they came back or planning to come back n loot, one is even shouting kill kwaruption now na kwaruption dey kill us for this country, we don't even know who is winning between Mr Kwaruption n Buhari it seems both of them have called a round table n starting harvesting from the country already

God bless you, TINUBU and co then were using NADECO against the military, they were fighting the military because they know once democracy comes in they'll become the next emperor. This is exactly my point, none of Africa's protest leaders revolution is purely for the masses except NELSON MANDELA and that's why he's celebrated all over the world for that selfless service. Even FELA that's rebellious once contested for PRESIDENCY, 2023 is coming, SOWORE need to be in the news, and FG is giving him. what he wanted. the same SOWORE is the presidential candidate and National Party chairman. Imagine Atiku doing Secondus work also or Buhari doing Oshiomole's work.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by lexy2014: 9:34am On Aug 04, 2019
Midastorch:


Syria’s case did not start has war outrightly, people wanted Assad gone and they took to the street... They were not armed from the beginning of revolt till it was hijacked by Terrorist groups and their sponsors...

Syria's case didn't start as war but u mentioned this: "the revolts by the Free Syria Army (FSA) was hijacked by Al-qaeda, hence what we have in Syria today."

That is y I asked u, how's it applicable to Nigeria except u don't no what d Free Syria Army is and what it stands for.

I also asked u: "Who are "d enemies of d state" and who are their opposites?". Am yet to get a response on that
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by ElsonMorali: 9:35am On Aug 04, 2019
Pvssy:



Enlighten the lots Buhari called majority of them illiterates.

They planned a revolution and notified the government! grin

As a matter of fact most revolutions are spontaneous not planned.

If it's planned it becomes a protest.
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by Newboss(m): 9:36am On Aug 04, 2019
Afamed:
"I'm not talking of protest. I'm embarking on revolution. 85% of Nigerians are in support. Don't tell me about legal implications or what a Judge will say. I don't care. We must bundle Buhari out of that place...."

Omoyele Sowore....... July 25, 2019.

Exhibit C!

Sowore go suffer for prison. Planning to overthrow a legitimate government

Exactly. His plans is outrightly wrong.

I mean, how can a western academia still lack sense at over 40?

There are smart ways to handle this.

Taking an case at a time and protesting for that case to be implemented is smarter than planning to overthrow a government. That's how things are done in civilised climes. Labour has proved that it works again and again. ASUU has.

Overthrow the government when an election was conducted less than 6 months ago? WTF.


He's basically tolling the path of IPOB
Re: Will Any Government In The World Sit And Watch A "Revolution" Protest? by gidgiddy: 9:37am On Aug 04, 2019
modsfucker:


Then blame the culprit for wrong choice of words.... Revolution is revolution... Revolt, Forceful takeover of Government, forcing a regime change

In Nigeria that has serious security challenges, they are chasing people around because of choice of words? How is an unarmed Sowore going to force a change government? With his orange beret? If a country like Nigeria that has other groups who are killing people daily and the security forces are more interested in the type of words Sowore uses, it means Nigeria isnt a serious

People are being killed every day, your security forces is busy chasing around those who used wrong choice of words. I laugh in Chinese

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