shadeyinka:

I believe your position is the position of your organisation.

We read the same Bible but come to different conclusions (based on our own interpretations). e.g. Trinity, Death, Divinity of Christ etc

Hence, your views are very important. From the scripture you presented, I want to know we understand ourselves well.

So,

If I get you well,
Jehovah is the Almighty God
AND
Jesus is the Mighty god/God

Is this your position?

shadeyinka:

Since the Body is synonymous with your Soul. Jesus poured out his body on the cross?

See if it makes any sense?

shadeyinka:

Oh, we now have two Yahwehs, one the Almighty and the other an Angel!!?
Continue!

shadeyinka:

When a demon is in charge, how can any reasoning make sense.

shadeyinka:

You DID not answer my very important question!

If Jehovah is the almighty God, what kind of god/God is Jesus?

Please don't ignore this again!

shadeyinka:

Before you were certain the scripture was about Abraham
NOW
You say the some people can include Abraham.


The some people can even include Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Mary!! The list is endless!

shadeyinka:

If I get you correctly,
Jehovah is the Almighty God
And
Jesus is a God who has a God

I am not sure if you meant God or god @bolded. But is this your correct position?

shadeyinka:


Isa 6:1:
"In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple."

Before you say "it's a vision": is it not in a form suitable for the viewing of Isaiah?

God is a Spirit!

Barristter07:

A God that is subjected to The Supreme God.
i]
" The son himself will also subject himself to the one who subject all things to him ." 1 Corinthians 15:27 [/i]
Which Almighty/Supreme being subject himself to anyone ??
Subject means been under the CONTROL of Another . Christ isn't the supreme being

shadeyinka:

Your lack of comprehension fully in display.

When you say "me!, I !, my! " Who are you referring to? Is it your body, your brain, your physical body or the you who lives in your body?

Maximus69:


True Christian's conclusion is always the same! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2

That's why these group was named "Christians" in the first century {Act 11:26} they were doing everything the same way as they arrive at the same conclusion after considering the scriptures! 1Corinthians 14:33,40

It's Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis whose conclusions regarding the scriptures was conflicting! Act 23:6-9

As for true Christians, they are one in mind! John 17:20-23

So name your organization and their position Sir!

TATIME:


If i can recollect vividly from past discussions with Shadeyinka, he belongs to a religious group but the doctrines of his organization doesn't define him meaning the teachings of those he mingle with has no hold on him.

So Shadeyinka is an independent Christian of his own thought, criticising a peaceful, zealous, industrious, globally recognizable group of worshippers whose beliefs are unique!

shadeyinka:

You DID not answer my very important question!

If Jehovah is the almighty God, what kind of god/God is Jesus?

Please don't ignore this again!

Barristter07:
Act 3:13 spells it out that Jesus is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob . Total finishing, shadeyinka explain that verse , Who Glorify Jesus ?

Barristter07:


He referred to everything that makes him up, in its entirety . not just ordinary flesh but his existence as a living soul.

U can't say someone die, if they only remove their skin like snake . Which is your theory . ordinary skin dies not the person

Jesus is ashamed of you right now, You just rubbish the saying Jesus die for mankind since its ordinary skin that was removed and Christ isn't dead but living

Barristter07:


Everything called the person Jesus ( Soul) died! . became lifeless .

Barristter07:


A God that is subjected to The Supreme God.


" The son himself will also subject himself to the one who subject all things to him ." 1 Corinthians 15:27

Which Almighty/Supreme being subject himself to anyone ??

Subject means been under the CONTROL of Another . Christ isn't the supreme being

shadeyinka:

The question was very clear and simple. A god/God is a divine being, so you've not answered the question. JESUS is a Theo's is just repeating the question. What kind of Theo's/god/God is Jesus?

So can you please answer the KIND of Theo's/
god/God Jesus is.

If Jehovah is the Almighty God, what kind of god/God is Jesus?

Janosky:

We have given you the Expo your delusion can't cope with....
It's left to you to format your brain , circumcise your ears and open your unreceptive heart to the answer you typed:
" A god/God is a divine being... JESUS is a Theo's"

OR :
Run to your pastorpreneurs to feed your delusions at great costs.

Hairyrapunzel:


You still did not answer the question.
If Jehovah is the almighty God, what kind of god/God is Jesus?


The question is what jesus christ is and not what he is not

Janosky:


Don't confuse yourself.
The Greek " Dia antou "= THROUGH (him) Or "by means of him" ,that's the correct expression.
Jesus was working with another Being, (the Father of Jesus ) he calls 'my God,my Father" (John1:2-3, Rev 3:5,12. Ephesians 3:14-15).

** See other evidences below:
(*1)
John 1:10
He was in the world, and though the world
was made through Him, the world did not
recognize Him.
(*2)
1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father,
from whom all things came and for whom
we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus
Christ, through whom all things came and
through whom we exist.
(*3)
Colossians 1:16
For in Him all things were created, things in
heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
whether thrones or dominions or rulers or
authorities. All things were created through
Him and for Him.

(*4)
Hebrews 1:2
But in these last days He has spoken to us
by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all
things, and through whom He made the
universe.


Lexicon (John1:3)
** THROUGH
δι’ (di’)
Preposition
Strong's Greek 1223: A primary preposition
denoting the channel of an act; through.
** Him
αὐτοῦ (autou)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Genitive
Masculine 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 846: He, she, it, they, them,
same. From the particle au; the reflexive
pronoun self, used of the third person, and
of the other persons.
*** all things
πάντα (panta)
Adjective - Nominative Neuter Plural
Strong's Greek 3956: All, the whole, every
kind of. Including all the forms of
declension; apparently a primary word; all,
any, every, the whole.
*** were made,"

Question:
Ephesians 3:14-15, is Jesus the Father to whom every family in heaven and earth owes their name?

Janosky:

(1).
Between the spiritual realm and the physical realm,which exists first ?
Which is more powerful and stronger?

1 Cor 8:6
"Yet there is for us only one God, the Father,
who is the CREATOR OF ALL" , deal with it, bro.

Hebrew 1:2 refers to the time when Jesus sonship predates the physical realm (universe).

Rev 3:5,12 in the spiritual realm Jesus sonship is incontrovertible.
The Greek Dia= THROUGH , another key point for emphasis.

(2).
Jesus is a servant/son of the God of Abraham, Acts 3:13. He has always been so, before his earthly sojourn

Barristter07:


[u] The text never said He has a name which no one knows, but a qualifier was added which excepted the writer " Written " compare Rev 2:7 .

Pay attention to the bold, the name was written by someone, clearly he got it from his Father .

The language of Matthew 24:36 doesnt call for any third party, Its specific and direct ... It didnt say the day was written whereby maybe the Father employed the service of anyone to write it on a wall , its a Sole Knowledge. Nobody Knows except one single person, The Father .

CAPTIVATOR:


Jesus is not the Creator - Matthew 19:4,6 . he gave that title to his Father.



That only point to human form. doesnt change the Fact that God many years before chosed his servant . " Servant, whom I have CHoSEN " not whom I will chose

Again , Jesus have a God he worships- Rev 3:12

Janosky:


Genesis 2:7
And Jehovah Elohim formed Man, dust of the
ground, and breathed into his nostrils the
breath of life; and Man became a living soul."


"Then the LORD God took some soil from the
ground and formed a man out of it; he
breathed life-giving breath into his nostrils
and the man began to live."

Throway that your satanic theorem for sewage dump.

Janosky:


Eehn !!!
Oturugbeke Shuooo !!!!

Where did Yahweh say Adam will "experience Physical, Spiritual or Second Death?"

Adam never lived up to one Day in Yahweh's eyes, but you done create department of "Physical, Spiritual or Second Death"

You no know say Sodom and Gomorrah, Adam and Eve, World of Noah's day that Yahweh have executed judgment and their case closed?
Your doctrine of Adam's "Spiritual or Second Death" is a classic sign of spiritual Junk , a manifestation of spiritual kwashiorkor.

Shadeyinka, na who do you this thing ?

Maximus69:


True Christian's conclusion is always the same! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3, Philippians 2:2

That's why these group was named "Christians" in the first century {Act 11:26} they were doing everything the same way as they arrive at the same conclusion after considering the scriptures! 1Corinthians 14:33,40

It's Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis whose conclusions regarding the scriptures was conflicting! Act 23:6-9

As for true Christians, they are one in mind! John 17:20-23

So name your organization and their position Sir!

Barristter07:


Everything called the person Jesus ( Soul) died! . became lifeless .

Barristter07:


Angels are given the name " Yahweh " in the scripture because they are his representatives. I repeat No man has seen God at any time, Those three who visited Abraham are angels, whom he also entertained ( Heb 13:2) as a lesson for us to be kind to strangers

Barristter07:


If Spirit / Soul is a conscious person, Was Jesus in heaven the day he dies since his Spirit RETURNED TO GOD , His Father ?

You can never reply . I pity your case

Barristter07:


A God that is subjected to The Supreme God.


" The son himself will also subject himself to the one who subject all things to him ." 1 Corinthians 15:27

Which Almighty/Supreme being subject himself to anyone ??

Subject means been under the CONTROL of Another . Christ isn't the supreme being