God instructed and condoned murder in the Old Testament via prophets such as Moses. This we know and can easily support with scripture, unless you concede that Moses was a conman, did not speak on behalf of God and that any instructions given by Moses should therefore be disregarded.
However, if Moses did in fact convey God's wishes and instructions, it follows logically that God did command murder in the past, and that (according to precedent) he could potentially give similar instructions in the future. There is nothing prohibiting him from doing so.


Therefore, my question to Christians: If God instructed you personally to murder the child or wife of an enemy, would you do it? If your answer is "no", do you concede that you are prepared to disobey God in certain circumstances? If the answer is "yes", do you concede that you are happy to apply the same rationale and justification for your actions than a member of ISIS applies when they murder
someone believing God approves? If your answer is "God would never command or condone murder of innocent people", how do you explain scriptures such as Deuronomy 2:34 where Moses and the Israelites, according to God's instructions, murdered innocent babies and wives of their political and military enemies?
Looking forward to any responses.

Swissh:
God instructed and condoned murder in the Old Testament via prophets such as Moses. This we know and can easily support with scripture, unless you concede that Moses was a conman, did not speak on behalf of God and that any instructions given by Moses should therefore be disregarded.
However, if Moses did in fact convey God's wishes and instructions, it follows logically that God did command murder in the past, and that (according to precedent) he could potentially give similar instructions in the future. There is nothing prohibiting him from doing so.


Therefore, my question to Christians: If God instructed you personally to murder the child or wife of an enemy, would you do it? If your answer is "no", do you concede that you are prepared to disobey God in certain circumstances? If the answer is "yes", do you concede that you are happy to apply the same rationale and justification for your actions than a member of ISIS applies when they murder
someone believing God approves? If your answer is "God would never command or condone murder of innocent people", how do you explain scriptures such as Deuronomy 2:34 where Moses and the Israelites, according to God's instructions, murdered innocent babies and wives of their political and military enemies?
Looking forward to any responses.

How about are Christains prepared to kill someone if the Law commands it?

GOD is the ultimate universal Law. HE is righteous, perfect and just

tl Dr.

there's a clear difference between killing and murder. aside that, whatever God instructs should not be critiqued by logic. Go find something else to do. Your human mind and so called sixth sense will fail you woefully

Whizzahd:
tl Dr.

there's a clear difference between killing and murder. aside that, whatever God instructs should not be critiqued by logic. Go find something else to do. Your human mind and so called sixth sense will fail you woefully

It's a basic yes or no answer and your reason for picking one no need for long pointless Epistles

OpenYourEyes1:


How about are Christains prepared to kill someone if the Law commands it?

GOD is the ultimate universal Law. HE is righteous, perfect and just

You have not said anything meaningful. If God instructed you to kill babies and wife's of your enemies like he did in the Bible would you obey?

Swissh:

You have not said anything meaningful. If God instructed you to kill babies and wife's of your enemies like he did in the Bible would you obey?

If GOD or the law orders me to destroy a community of real murderous zombies ofcourse I will

As a Christian, why would you question the will of your God?
Even if he was asking you to kill just because he felt like it, would you not be obligated to do it anyway?

Swissh:

It's a basic yes or no answer and your reason for picking one no need for long pointless Epistles

U are not a christain why is this bothering u... alsou said it’s in the Bible that God permitted killings... do u see Bible followers killing all around despite ur claim...so why are u still asking a question u already have answers for??

Swissh:
As a Christian, why would you question the will of your God?
Even if he was asking you to kill just because he felt like it, would you not be obligated to do it anyway?

Have you read the story of soddom and Gomorrah?

If Lot had not begged GOD to spare a city he fled to before the destruction of soddom and gomorrah the city would have been destroyed too because it appears that GOD had made up his mind to destroy everything in that area. Lot had to flee the city later as it was as violent and evil as soddom and gomorrah. It's either the city ended up growing and spreading evil around the world or it was eventually destroyed by GOD.

1StopRudeness:


U are not a christain why is this bothering u... alsou said it’s in the Bible that God permitted killings... do u see Bible followers killing all around despite ur claim...so why are u still asking a question u already have answers for??

Oga get lost you cannot read. Read my post again and if you can't answer yes or no and give reasons then fucccck out. You are confused because you can't give a straight forward answer you are turning like amoeba

OpenYourEyes1:

Have you read the story of soddom and Gomorrah?

If Lot had not begged GOD to spare a city he fled to before the destruction of soddom and gomorrah the city would have been destroyed too because it appears that GOD had made up his mind to destroy everything in that area. Lot had to flee the city later as it was as violent and evil as soddom and gomorrah. It's either the city ended up growing and spreading evil around the world or it was eventually destroyed by GOD.

Was God Asking lot to kill someone like Abraham? the answer is no so it's not the related. Why will you question your God when he gives you a direct order to kill someone?

Swissh:

Was God Asking lot to kill someone like Abraham? the answer is no so it's not the related. Why will you question your God when he gives you a direct order to kill someone?

GOD is our GOD not just my GOD. I will not question him at all because HE is our CREATOR and knows everything about us.

Remember that when HE destroys humans HE is revoking our right to exist on earth. We are not really dead. We continue to exist but not here on earth.
HE alone can stop us from existing on earth. And he alone knows everything about us

Swissh:

Oga get lost you cannot read. Read my post again and if you can't answer yes or no and give reasons then fucccck out. You are confused because you can't give a straight forward answer you are turning like amoeba

I read ur question and u ddnt even ask a yes or no question, infact u asked for a further dive into rationalizing the killing actions of another religion..u even asked for explanation of duet 2v34
I ddnt even insult u...why are u this bitter and angry over nothing? Oh! I forgot it’s a faceless forum, it’s allowed to talk to people like they are shits...... I understand...

Peace man

OpenYourEyes1:


GOD is our GOD not just my GOD. I will not question him at all because HE is our CREATOR and knows everything about us.

Remember that when HE destroys humans HE is revoking our right to exist on earth. We are not really dead. We continue to exist but not here on earth.
HE alone can stop us from existing on earth. And he alone knows everything about us

So you basically saying you will kill a baby and not question God if he commands you to then why are christians complaining about Muslims doing exactly the same thing?

1StopRudeness:


I read ur question and u ddnt even ask a yes or no question, infact u asked for a further dive into rationalizing the killing actions of another religion..
I ddnt even insult u...why are u this bitter and angry over nothing? Oh! I forgot it’s a faceless forum, it’s allowed to talk to people like they are shits...... I understand...

Peace man

Then you have a reading problem. I asked a question and gave different scenarios depending on any answer you might take but you just rushed and stated going off topic

Swissh:

So you basically saying you will kill a baby and not question God if he commands you to then why are christians complaining about Muslims doing exactly the same thing?

If GOD orders me to destroy baby zombies or baby nephilims, I will 100%.
Destruction of abomination on earth prolongs human existence on earth.

OpenYourEyes1:


If GOD orders me to destroy baby zombies or baby nephilims, I will 100%.
Destruction of abomination on earth prolongs human existence on earth.

In other words you will breaking God's commandments that though shall not kill.. God commands that you not kill. God commands you to kill. Which command do you follow? You either follow his command to kill, or assume that you know better than God. What is the difference between you following God's command to kill and an ISIS member following God's command to kill?

Swissh:

In other words you will breaking God's commandments that though shall not kill.. God commands that you not kill. God commands you to kill. Which command do you follow? You either follow his command to kill, or assume that you know better than God. What is the difference between you following God's command to kill and an ISIS member following God's command to kill?

That commandment is beautiful and simple:
Do Not Kill. What is the penalty for Murder? Death! You will be destroyed for breaking the law

Swissh:

In other words you will breaking God's commandments that though shall not kill.. God commands that you not kill. God commands you to kill. Which command do you follow? You either follow his command to kill, or assume that you know better than God. What is the difference between you following God's command to kill and an ISIS member following God's command to kill?

By the way ISIS is a satanic organization. The members are working for the devil. Their killing is very unjust.

OpenYourEyes1:


That commandment is beautiful and simple:
Do Not Kill. What is the penalty for Murder? Death! You will be destroyed for breaking the law

You just admitted you will kill a baby? is that not against the law or is it though shall not kill unless permitted by God?

OpenYourEyes1:


By the way ISIS is a satanic organization. The members are working for the devil. Their killing is very unjust.

Isis is an Islamic group according to them following God commands like you when you said you will kill anybody as long as God commands it

Swissh:

You just admitted you will kill a baby? is that not against the law or is it though shall not kill unless permitted by God?

If GOD commands me to wipe out a destructive community of vampires, I will definitely spare not even the children of the vampires

Swissh:

Isis is an Islamic group according to them following God commands like you when you said you will kill anybody as long as God commands it

Research more about ISIS

OpenYourEyes1:


If GOD commands me to wipe out an destructive community of vampires, I will definitely spare not even the children of the vampires

What do you mean by vampire? Are you trying to justify something or what?
I find it hypocritical that Christians like yourself now criticised Muslims for trying to wipe out destructive community of vampire(christians) as commanded by their God.

OpenYourEyes1:

Research more about ISIS

I have bro and its foundation is based on Islam and his doctrines

Swissh:

What do you mean by vampire? Are you trying to justify something or what?
I find it hypocritical that Christians like yourself now criticised Muslims for trying to wipe out destructive community of vampire(christians) as commanded by their God.

Oh Christians are vampires? I see.

OpenYourEyes1:


Oh Christians are vampires? I see.

Who where you referring to as destructive community of vampires? And if your God commands you to kill them why can't their own God command them to kill you?

Swissh:

Who where you referring to as destructive community of vampires? And if your God commands you to kill them why can't their own God command them to kill you?

Read why GOD destroyed earth and soddom and Gomorrah with flood and sulphur respectively.
Did they deserve destruction? Ofcourse they did.

Any society that worships satan and perform child sacrifice deserves GOD's destruction. If you live in such society and you are comfortable with its evil, then you too deserve death.

OpenYourEyes1:


Read why GOD destroyed earth and soddom and Gomorrah with flood and sulphur respectively.
Did they deserve destruction? Ofcourse they did.

Any society that worships satan and perform child sacrifice deserves GOD's destruction. If you live in such society and you are comfortable with its evil, then you too deserve death.

You are deviating from the initial post. You are comfortable killing people at the behest of your God but when other religion kill you at the behest their God you have a problem with it and call them Satan's . If Muslims decides that those who eat pigs are evil and decides to kill all of them because their God commanded them to do it will you have a problem with that?

Swissh:

You are deviating from the initial post. You are comfortable killing people at the behest of your God but when other religion kill you at the behest their God you have a problem with it and call them Satan's . If Muslims decides that those who eat pigs are evil and decides to kill all of them because their God commanded them to do it will you have a problem with that?

GOD destroys a nation when it becomes completely evil. If Isis or other lawless groups destroy welcoming and peace loving communities then Isis is definitely on the side of satan

Swissh:

It's a basic yes or no answer and your reason for picking one no need for long pointless Epistles

I don't see how that's an epistle since you read it

OpenYourEyes1:


GOD destroys a nation when it becomes completely evil. If Isis or other lawless groups destroy welcoming and peace loving communities then Isis is definitely on the side of satan

Ok thanks for saying nothing and admitting you will kill even a baby if God asks you to. That's all I care about