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Poll: Should children be flogged by the government for hawking?

Yes: 12% (16 votes)
No: 87% (111 votes)
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Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by MaiSuya(m): 12:20pm On Oct 22, 2010
sonyvaio:

A law was made, the kids transgressed the law, they paid the penalty.
ADVICE

Let me get something straight. Did the supposed law actually prescribe [i]flogging [/i]as the punitive measure for its infringement?

Unbelievable! shocked
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by oluite(f): 12:28pm On Oct 22, 2010
I hope we get it right someday.Flogging is not going to stop those children from hawking,most of them don't have any guardian and survive on their own.For the few that have parent and guardians,the parents don't seem to see anything wrong in it.They are so poor and uneducated.Its shocking to hear them say govt is troubling their source of livehood!These children will just look for other ways to outsmart the government.Is it too much to award scholarship to these children?or get them engage in some handiwork?
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Donmeca(m): 12:42pm On Oct 22, 2010
what sort of punishment is that? I think the punishment for the minors should be given to their parents/guardians who send them out with the strict instruction never to bother coming back unless the goods are exhausted. when they come home with little sales, these kids are beaten black and blue and may not even be allowed to taste water(let alone food) in the house. these kids wake up with the firm resolve to complete the day's task with efficiency, they can even enter the lion's den to make sales. What do we expect the children to do? call their people's bluff? No way! Someone would say, "go to school of course." It may interest u to know that most if not all of these kids are not in any form of school. The only education they may have got being to recite their goods, count money and make change. The owners of those goods should be arrested and jailed/fined.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Ericology(m): 12:51pm On Oct 22, 2010
LeoMax:

Whats wrong with flogging them. Are they not being flogged in school daily ? Will it kill them ? Are kids not being flooged at home by parents. So many useless people on nairaland. Havent you been flogged b4, did you die ? Its a form of discouragements.

We continue to wallow in abject rubbish in this country cuz the majority of the electorates think like U, shame to ur brains
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by adconline(m): 1:00pm On Oct 22, 2010
Since we cannot have a dog with a license, maybe we should require would-be parents to show proof of eligibility and sanity before having kids. Way tooo mannny kidss in Naija.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by zylla(m): 1:06pm On Oct 22, 2010
we are going MAD, especially people like LeoMax.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Youngichou(m): 1:10pm On Oct 22, 2010
rubbish! u flog children and sentence them to 1month in prison but you live government thieves and send them to hospital go get there jail term
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by OKURINMETA: 1:55pm On Oct 22, 2010
excuse me who wants to hawk if the basic amenities are given?. i advocate that they should not be flogged cos if they do it will be abuse of power by the court and abuse on the hawkers, as long as the basic amenities are not given Abj is not exempted from the hawking scheme. and can some one tell me why people who are struggling to survive by hawking will have to pay 3k/ is this not sending them back to the street through manipulation? this is not fair soemthing must be done
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by shotuns: 2:06pm On Oct 22, 2010
Nelson Madela again!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha, life must be really interesting ooo
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by samoks(m): 2:12pm On Oct 22, 2010
rubbish
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by marvix(m): 2:16pm On Oct 22, 2010
avwerosuoo:

This is pure madness, the kids shld not be flogged, instead Govt shld be flogged, Are the so called officials not ashamed to flog the children? It's not their fault, God help us,

Who is d govt that u want flogged?

Reference:

This is sad. I really don't know what to say. But why are we doing this. These are children. Please, these are children. They are not responsible for their plight. They have not stolen government money, they have not ruined banks, they have not mismanaged oil earnings. All the economics they know they learnt in traffic jams. Hell, they did not ask to be born. They just want to survive. They want to help mum and dad, uncle and aunt, they want to buy shirts and shoes, not private jets or mansions in Dubai. They want something to eat. They want a chance in life. If we don't want kids then we should not have them.

As for government good luck to you. Discipline for the future generation, indiscipline and corruption now. Continue to lead by example. When they meet Cecilia in jail and compare notes let us see if indeed her offense is only 6 times theirs.

If they stole govt money or ruined banks or mismanaged oil earnings would flogging be the appropriate punishment.

We should not be sentimental on issues like this, the law in Abuja says that kids should not hawk, its actually an embarrasment to d nation, this AEPB task force have been catching them seizing their wares and releasing them without flogging but they keep coming back, If you read the article properly you will see that they would still be in custody until their parents come around.

What we should insist on is that the kids documentations should be taken down, the parents data taken and whenever this kids are caught again d parents should be found.

U will also realise that the kids pleaded guilty, its just a process, the kids could have pleaded not guilty and go ahead to indict their parents, the govt and the society, a judge cant give judgement with disregard to the plea of the accused, Ibru pleaded guilty to only 3 counts and she got 6months for each, that is plea bargaining.

Put it in proper perspective the kids who have been flogged can cry on their parents that they would not want to be flogged others who contemplate it would be scared of the flogging and that is the beginning of their understanding that there are rules in the society, and if we must know there are some places where they are allowed to hawk.

To me its an insult to our society having under aged kids hawking no matter how bad the economy is, if u cant take care of a child must you bring him into this world?

PS: Do not have kids you cannot care for.
shotuns:

Nelson Madela again!!!!!!!!!!!!! haha, life must be really interesting ooo


Just to clear the air, did it occur to u that these kids could just give fake names, that could sure be a smart move,
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by marvix(m): 2:21pm On Oct 22, 2010
But y is everyone voting no, should we no more enforce discipline or maybe the judge should have ordered that they should be fed and paid the value of what they had in the tray.

Justice is a blind ass, he does not care who its dealing with that the way its supposed to be, can you imagine ordering that the kids should be put in school at govt expense by the next day what would we see on the street, would we be solving the problem or escalating it?
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by andyprez(m): 3:05pm On Oct 22, 2010
It makes me laugh (the irritating kind) when I read stuffs like this. So the procecuters believe that the minors go to the market and purchase their goods for themselves. Common sense won't let this dumb people know that they (the children) are sent by their parent & that they have no other option than to obey them (parent/guardian). Oh!, I've forgotten that common sense ain't that common.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by basking4me: 3:28pm On Oct 22, 2010
In the UK, there are records of birth and even payments are made to citizens for their upkeep until they get a job,  cant remember the name its called. Here in Nigeria, the Government of this country has failed woefully, no records of anybody, no planning and no provisions for upkeep of kids whose parents aint working.

The government of this country by nature does not care for its people. We dont love ourselves and our leaders dont give a fork about you.

The gap between the poor guy and the rich dude is like from Heaven to Hell!

We'll have to save ourselves,  no one is going to do it for us,
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by basking4me: 3:37pm On Oct 22, 2010
Come to think of it, is there any policy for kids or child care running in this country, ?

if a dude can steal billions and go to jail for six months, and a kid out of need to survive goes to child labour (working to survive)n and still gets weeped for it, I can only imagine,

that Judge has nothing in his head, am sure, he may be on drugs or is mentally ill, should need to see a shrink(psychologist)!

(Note: it is not everyone you see on the street that talks fine or looks okay is actually okay, this judge is just one of them, ) angry
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by sonyvaio(f): 3:45pm On Oct 22, 2010
Mai Suya:

Let me get something straight. Did the supposed law actually prescribe [i]flogging [/i]as the punitive measure for its infringement?

Unbelievable! shocked

That's why we have judges who use their discretion, while beign guided by the law.
the constitution doesn' outlaw floggin.

I am not in support of the judgement though
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by olakintanj(m): 4:04pm On Oct 22, 2010
Do you think beating or flogging is the best solution to get out of this mess? I think flogging is child abuse and as a strong advocate against child abuse, i think this is not a good idea embarassed sad angry
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by olakintanj(m): 4:08pm On Oct 22, 2010
If we keep flogging this Children who are hawking, so what shall we do to our leaders who are stealling our money, do we shot them or flogg them as well. If our leaders allow this money to circulate, no body will be on street hawking any kinds of items, and Nigeria would have been a better place for all. cry
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Nobody: 4:09pm On Oct 22, 2010
The children hawkers were not punished for HWA [Hawking While Underaged], they were spanked for hawkng at the wrong spots.

Nigeria and it's priorities. They don't care that the children where minors. . . . and unschooled.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by zionic(m): 4:10pm On Oct 22, 2010
Double child abuse! angry
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by komekn(m): 4:22pm On Oct 22, 2010
I am somewhat lost, can somebody tell what act of law this is?  bye law, sharia whatever and let’s not just assume there is a law, because the supposedly learned Magistrate said so, stranger things have happened in Nigeria.

Finally does this not fringe on the right of the minor/child, I am not that familiar with our all our federal laws which take precedence over state laws, but i am sure the fundamental rights of the child are enshrined in our constitution, and in this case completely breached by the state.

Furthermore we are signatories to the United Nations “Convention on the Rights of the Child” Then again it’s the same city a former governor and senator (yerima) married a 13 year old child, and what happened to the paedophile
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by babaowo: 4:41pm On Oct 22, 2010
@google

is parents fault or government fault
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Witi(m): 5:42pm On Oct 22, 2010
May OGUN the god of Iron punish our leaders, if they had done the right thing why should Nigerian Children be involving in hawking? Bastards sad sad sad
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by Ibomade1: 6:31pm On Oct 22, 2010
It is their parents that needs to be flogged
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by googles: 7:04pm On Oct 22, 2010
babaowo:

@google

is parents fault or government fault

Apparently, Government's fault.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by bawomolo(m): 8:10pm On Oct 22, 2010
Whats wrong with flogging them. Are they not being flogged in school daily ? Will it kill them ? Are kids not being flooged at home by parents. So many useless people on nairaland. Havent you been flogged b4, did you die ? Its a form of discouragements.

lol nigerians are desensitized to suffering
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by elderk: 8:47pm On Oct 22, 2010
Everyman will do anything possible for survival. have you guys ever gone to where these guys live? i mean they even have to travel to their hawk sites. this should not surprise you, but they feed on what they hawk DAILY. flogging them will never deter or solve the problems. you may blame their parents but what can a man who earns btwn 8-10k monthly do? he will tell you he helped his parents with farm work while growing up and this (hawking) is presently his farm so why cant his kids give him a hand on his farm. the problem runs deeper and the solution even deeper
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by oge4real(f): 9:14pm On Oct 22, 2010
Wonders will never end.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by hackney(m): 9:42pm On Oct 22, 2010
tawai tawai na ike!!
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by MrDuerulu(m): 10:33pm On Oct 22, 2010
will flogging address the problm? Govt shd dig to the root of this menace and address it appropriately.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by zoraro(m): 10:50pm On Oct 22, 2010
Has corporal punishment been outlawed in Nigeria? If not why all the noise. I am against corporal punishment though and if they are underage (<12) then they should not be flogged instead their wares should be seized.
Re: Minors Flogged For Hawking In Abuja by freecocoa(f): 11:24pm On Oct 22, 2010
Am actually sheding tears at this,expecially at what most people here are saying,how can someone say its okay to flog the kids or even the parents,do you think anyone likes suffering?they are just trying to survive and they get sentenced and flogged for it.if some of you dont know,some people are really finding it difficult to feed in this country and instead of the govt to help they making it worse.God will surely flog them back.NONESENSE

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