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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by MyGeneration(m): 10:21am On Aug 21, 2019
Jimasun:

Ondo state produce more oil than whole SE. So don't even go there.
Even in SS, our cousins, the Itsekiri produce more oil than whole SE.
Don't go there.
u really have a funny way of thinking of thinking if you thought i meant SE... lol

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Jimasun: 10:24am On Aug 21, 2019
Inteltower:



so with your ignorance you forget voting behaviour of majority of northerners plus that they are the ones with a political advantage when it comes to voting
How did Jonathan win the first term when Northerners were adamant on completing their tenure?

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by ejimatic: 10:24am On Aug 21, 2019
Nkemakonam62:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sunnewsonline.com/2023-why-zoning-may-not-work-in-apc-ganduje/amp/
. Nigeria is divided into North and South with each subdivided into three making six geographical zones. South ruled for 8 years now North will compete 8 years in 2023.By 2023 power must shift to South. It is not negotiable.As for the region that will produce president in the south it is LIKELY the South West.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by vanunu: 10:37am On Aug 21, 2019
MyGeneration:
Nigerians that term Igbos hateful and agent of division based on the activities carried out by ipob, should know that by now we Igbos are the biggest victims.

What they need is serious rehabilitation and reorientation, some of them the main reason for there actions is misinformation, especially based on the events of the Biafran war.

To a lot of us who dont know they think northerners just woke up one day and started killing igbos then Ojukwu declared a Biafran republic to save them, then Nigeria comes in and commited genocide as an excuse to the war.

90percent dont know that there was a first unprovoked and bloody coup which igbos should take a big blame for then move on that lead to all other things.

That is the major thing fueling hate in the mind of ipob members plus all those pictures of starving women and children thats filled all over the net.

AN IGBO LEADER NEEDS TO STEP UP AND ADDRESS ALL THESE THINGS CAUSE THATS WHAT NNAMDI KANU IS USING AS A LEVERAGE TO GATHER SUPPORT TO CONTINUE DOING RUBBISH

Do you know that before 1966, northerners have been killing Igbos.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by paulsir: 10:39am On Aug 21, 2019
Tinubu, can you see your life outside?
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Jimasun: 10:39am On Aug 21, 2019
tuniski:

There is rotation in democracy! Stop the narrowness. Democracy only feeds into the prevailing sentiments/emotions. Or you think parties just like fielding a religiously balanced and sectionally tickets?
Stop following the herd. There is no rotation in democracy.
What are you talking of is called inclusiveness.
And inclusiveness demands participation, wisdom. tact and open mind.
Is anybody stopping Igbos from becoming President?
The first test of their worth should be from PDP, the party they have been voting since 1999. If PDP doesn't deem them worth it, why would APC or SW and North whom they see as slaves and animals respectively vote them?
There is no rotation in democracy.
You have to participate, have tact, be reasonable and demonstrate open heart. Just ask an average Hausa whom he preferred between an Igbo man and a Yoruba man, you will understand.

Every tribe in Nigeria suffers from one injustice or the other. And Every tribe has at one time or the other aligned with another.
First republic, it was a North and East alliance that formed government.
Second republic it was still North and East.
Third republic it was still them.
Nobody called them betrayers because they didn't vote Awolowo.
No, for the first term that Yorubas will align with North, they called us unprintable names.
They should contest.
Let's wait and see.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by ItsMeAboki(m): 10:40am On Aug 21, 2019
tuniski:

The choice only becomes the nigerians' after the parties have chosen candidates. Democracy is equally rotation, it is whatever works in a clime. Had it been just number, southern Nigeria as a whole will perennially struggle to be president to no avail!

Unfortunately, he is quite right while you are wrong; because Democracy is not based on equal rotation but anchored on the principle of complete freedom of the electorate; hence its definition as, 'Government of the ppl for the ppl by the ppl' - where the voter's choice is supreme and guaranteed to the effect he choose whoever he wants, from available candidates, without any encumbrances whatsoever.

What we have, by way of zoning, is a forced distortion and therefore an anti democratic system, imposed on Nigerians by the real 'Born to Rule' from the south, who must rule by any means including changing of the rules and definition of democracy - or else sabotage the corporate existence of Nigeria as a country.

All these agitations for secession, restructuring and gimmicks such as geopolitical zones, rotational presidency etc are powerful tools of blackmail deployed by southern politicians to advance their personal ambition towards the presidency.

Unfortunately, their ambition does not also stop at the use divisive fault lines of tribe, religion, region and of course the media, which they almost completely own and control (even though at the expense of our national unity) to manipulate the many minds of our gullible youths - who are already pre-programmed to hate at the slightest excuse in order to comfort themselves for their own under achievement.

Countries practising true democracy do not zone, irrespective of their size and diversity; if this country is to follow suit then we must be ready to shun all sentiments and allow anybody to stand for election based on his/her acceptability and popularity, and Nigerians the freedom to choose whoever they want.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by useurkidney3121: 10:40am On Aug 21, 2019
Keep quiet! Gandollar Ole
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by MyGeneration(m): 10:41am On Aug 21, 2019
vanunu:


Do you know that before 1966, northerners have been killing Igbos.
it happened once i think before independence it wasn't just igbos but north vs south something. but we took more of the casually because our population in the north was more than other southerners. it was caused by the stoning of northern elites in Lagos because they opposed independence
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by vanunu: 10:41am On Aug 21, 2019
Perkins2018:


Igbos showed their hateful self when they all supported ipob and your politicians identified with them. You should have cautioned them. No hateful idiot like kanu would get support in Yoruba land. Kanu is like Grandson yet nobody takes him seriously because Yoruba are wiser than that.


You are a big hypocrite, just because boko haram wants a Islamic state and have killed thousands with the surport of some northern politicians , does not make all northerners guilty.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Jimasun: 10:44am On Aug 21, 2019
ejimatic:
. Nigeria is divided into North and South with each subdivided into three making six geographical zones. South ruled for 8 years now North will compete 8 years in 2023.By 2023 power must shift to South. It is not negotiable.As for the region that will produce president in the south it is LIKELY the South West.
It is negotiable.
Though it would come to South, but not because it is a must.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by ejimatic: 10:55am On Aug 21, 2019
Jimasun:

It is negotiable.
Though it would come to South, but not because it is a must.
. The unity of Nigeria now lies in rotational presidency. Negotiation meeting on it is just a formality.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Godson26: 10:57am On Aug 21, 2019
Don't fight yourself because of this people all of them wan rule we know the tactics and it just a game people should be careful even ganduje is a confuse man he never won his election people should be calm abeg...
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Perkins2018: 11:15am On Aug 21, 2019
vanunu:



You are a big hypocrite, just because boko haram wants a Islamic state and have killed thousands with the surport of some northern politicians , does not make all northerners guilty.

Well I’m not a northerner. And I don’t know any northerner that openly supports boko haram like igbos support kanu.

I don’t have any problem with ipob. Secession is your right. But calling in the killing of Yoruba is my only problem.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by tuniski: 11:18am On Aug 21, 2019
ItsMeAboki:


Unfortunately, he is quite right while you are wrong; because Democracy is not based on equal rotation but anchored on the principle of complete freedom of the electorate; hence its definition as, 'Government of the ppl for the ppl by the ppl' - where the voter's choice is supreme and guaranteed to the effect he choose whoever he wants, from available candidates, without any encumbrances whatsoever.

What we have, by way of zoning, is a forced distortion and therefore an anti democratic system, imposed on Nigerians by the real 'Born to Rule' from the south, who must rule by any means including changing of the rules and definition of democracy - or else sabotage the corporate existence of Nigeria as a country.

All these agitations for secession, restructuring and gimmicks such as geopolitical zones, rotational presidency etc are powerful tools of blackmail deployed by southern politicians to advance their personal ambition towards the presidency.

Unfortunately, their ambition does not also stop at the use divisive fault lines of tribe, religion, region and of course the media, which they almost completely own and control (even though at the expense of our national unity) to manipulate the many minds of our gullible youths - who are already pre-programmed to hate at the slightest excuse in order to comfort themselves for their own under achievement.

Countries practising true democracy do not zone, irrespective of their size and diversity; if this country is to follow suit then we must be ready to shun all sentiments and allow anybody to stand for election based on his/her acceptability and popularity, and Nigerians the freedom to choose whoever they want.
Narrow perceptive!

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by tuniski: 11:22am On Aug 21, 2019
Jimasun:

Stop following the herd. There is no rotation in democracy.
What are you talking of is called inclusiveness.
And inclusiveness demands participation, wisdom. tact and open mind.
Is anybody stopping Igbos from becoming President?
The first test of their worth should be from PDP, the party they have been voting since 1999. If PDP doesn't deem them worth it, why would APC or SW and North whom they see as slaves and animals respectively vote them?
There is no rotation in democracy.
You have to participate, have tact, be reasonable and demonstrate open heart. Just ask an average Hausa whom he preferred between an Igbo man and a Yoruba man, you will understand.

Every tribe in Nigeria suffers from one injustice or the other. And Every tribe has at one time or the other aligned with another.
First republic, it was a North and East alliance that formed government.
Second republic it was still North and East.
Third republic it was still them.
Nobody called them betrayers because they didn't vote Awolowo.
No, for the first term that Yorubas will align with North, they called us unprintable names.
They should contest.
Let's wait and see.
Narrow and simplistic!

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Turantula(m): 11:26am On Aug 21, 2019
ItsMeAboki:


Unfortunately, he is quite right while you are wrong; because Democracy is not based on equal rotation but anchored on the principle of complete freedom of the electorate; hence its definition as, 'Government of the ppl for the ppl by the ppl' - where the voter's choice is supreme and guaranteed to the effect he choose whoever he wants, from available candidates, without any encumbrances whatsoever.

What we have, by way of zoning, is a forced distortion and therefore an anti democratic system, imposed on Nigerians by the real 'Born to Rule' from the south, who must rule by any means including changing of the rules and definition of democracy - or else sabotage the corporate existence of Nigeria as a country.

All these agitations for secession, restructuring and gimmicks such as geopolitical zones, rotational presidency etc are powerful tools of blackmail deployed by southern politicians to advance their personal ambition towards the presidency.

Unfortunately, their ambition does not also stop at the use divisive fault lines of tribe, religion, region and of course the media, which they almost completely own and control (even though at the expense of our national unity) to manipulate the many minds of our gullible youths - who are already pre-programmed to hate at the slightest excuse in order to comfort themselves for their own under achievement.

Countries practising true democracy do not zone, irrespective of their size and diversity; if this country is to follow suit then we must be ready to shun all sentiments and allow anybody to stand for election based on his/her acceptability and popularity, and Nigerians the freedom to choose whoever they want.
Nice one, but you forgot to add :
Henceforth every region should also manage and control all resources within its area
Catchment/quota system should be abolished in every government agency
Countries practicing true democracy do not do these, irrespective of their size and diversity

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by conquer20: 12:34pm On Aug 21, 2019
No one should be carried away by the deceptive eulogies of Ganduje,I think he's nursing the ambition of contesting for presidency come 2023 and perhaps stylishly wooing Igbo for their supports.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by PrecisionFx(m): 1:03pm On Aug 21, 2019
oyin44:
The only problem is?how could Ruga be made legitimate in this hate- torn country of ours. undecided

There is absolutely no need to make RUGA legitimate.....Let ruga remain in the north, the 17 southern states have totally rejected it.

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Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by PrecisionFx(m): 1:04pm On Aug 21, 2019
Jimasun:

Stop following the herd. There is no rotation in democracy.
What are you talking of is called inclusiveness.
And inclusiveness demands participation, wisdom. tact and open mind.
Is anybody stopping Igbos from becoming President?
The first test of their worth should be from PDP, the party they have been voting since 1999. If PDP doesn't deem them worth it, why would APC or SW and North whom they see as slaves and animals respectively vote them?
There is no rotation in democracy.
You have to participate, have tact, be reasonable and demonstrate open heart. Just ask an average Hausa whom he preferred between an Igbo man and a Yoruba man, you will understand.

Every tribe in Nigeria suffers from one injustice or the other. And Every tribe has at one time or the other aligned with another.
First republic, it was a North and East alliance that formed government.
Second republic it was still North and East.
Third republic it was still them.
Nobody called them betrayers because they didn't vote Awolowo.
No, for the first term that Yorubas will align with North, they called us unprintable names.
They should contest.
Let's wait and see.


There is rotation in Nigeria democracy
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Deepthoughts: 1:34pm On Aug 21, 2019
Nkemakonam62:



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sunnewsonline.com/2023-why-zoning-may-not-work-in-apc-ganduje/amp/
The major problem of the igbos is themselves,they are too disorganized n full of ego,as long as they continue fail in forging a United common front they shall continue to loss out.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Ronline(m): 1:40pm On Aug 21, 2019
kayusely70:
Ganduje has taken the right steps on RUGA, other northern govs should emulate him.
Gbam!!!
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by myobjective: 2:00pm On Aug 21, 2019
Turantula:

Nice one, but you forgot to add :
Henceforth every region should also manage and control all resources within its area
Catchment/quota system should be abolished in every government agency
Countries practising true democracy do not do these, irrespective of their size and diversity

Nice one, the guy is being wise by half.
True federalism requires that every region should arrange and organise their economy and plan base on what they have. The north wants to dominate Nigeria politics based on landmass without bringing anything to the table. They can't dominate us based on the landmass, they insist no rotational presidency then, then we will insist on true federalism where every state manage their resources
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by ItsMeAboki(m): 1:45am On Aug 22, 2019
Turantula:

Nice one, but you forgot to add :
Henceforth every region should also manage and control all resources within its area
Catchment/quota system should be abolished in every government agency
Countries practicing true democracy do not do these, irrespective of their size and diversity

I have no problem with that whatsoever; however, we also need to be reminded that the same wailers now crying for resource control were in fact the ones responsible for initiating it's dissolution and furthermore refusing insertion of a secession clause in our take off constitution allowing for any region to secede should it later wish to but currently the ones crying more than the bereaved.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by ItsMeAboki(m): 1:50am On Aug 22, 2019
tuniski:

Narrow perceptive!

Ok, why not show us your own broader perspective?
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by Bridget95(f): 2:07am On Aug 22, 2019
Jimasun:

Define democracy...
Nobody is stopping Igbos from ruling Nigeria.
They have the right to contest, the rest is left to Nigerians.
If you want the vote of someone, talk to him, let him know how your candidature would benefit.
Convince people that vote and you get it.

There is no compulsion in politics.
Majority carry the vote.
Learn how to play politics
Stop being ungrateful to people who accommodates you even when they don't get same treatment from you.
I hope you people grow above bitterness
what do you mean by accommodate? Did you guys build houses and put your 'guests in there for free? The way you people reason is beyond words.what else do you want from a people that have not engaged you physically? Have you guys travelled to any part of the East and denied the right to vote with the use of dirty thugs in a general election as was the case in Lagos ? You are welcome to the East and no one would ever tag that as 'accommodation ' since we did not provide you houses for free.
Re: 2023: Why Zoning May Not Work In APC – Ganduje by oyatz(m): 9:35pm On Dec 24, 2019
You are saying the same thing.

The parties choose their candidates and present them before Nigerians to pick one as the president.







tuniski:

The choice only becomes the nigerians' after the parties have chosen candidates. Democracy is equally rotation, it is whatever works in a clime. Had it been just number, southern Nigeria as a whole will perennially struggle to be president to no avail!

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