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Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Omooba77: 4:16pm On Aug 22, 2019
seunmsg:


You are very ignorant of tax laws in Nigeria. Incomes generated by a church from commercial activities are taxable. This is my profession so stop telling me nonsense.

Please with all due respect mention any Church that pays tax from commercial activities and I will tender unreserve apology to everyone on Nairaland.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Okoroawusa: 4:22pm On Aug 22, 2019
If a church has a school,an event center,a microfinance bank,a water bottling company then it's expected to pay tax
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Okoroawusa: 4:23pm On Aug 22, 2019
lexy2014:

Who is Jesus to d church Mr professor?
the tax collector
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by focus7: 4:27pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:


Every church is God's property and you must be careful about how you approach them before you draw the wrath of GOD.

Which income did they generate from books or your just yammering along because you can type rubbish?

God's advocate go read your bible well Jesus the head of the church paid tithe and admonished his followers to pay tax.

Religion sentiment is one of the reasons Nigeria is still struggling with development after years of Independent, i am a Christian I advocate that churches, mosque, pastors and imam should be made to pay tax in Nigeria
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by successmatters(m): 4:29pm On Aug 22, 2019
Angelfrost:


Y'all get emotional over nothing... How does asking simple yet pertinent questions equal glorifying Satan?... If Christ were present today, I doubt he would have taken offense as you seem to have.

In your haste to be unnecessarily defensive, you dabbled into fallacy (maybe ignorance)... A lot of churches in Nigeria, and across the globe, are tenants in the structures they use for worship... Some that own them equally lease them out for good fees, some have schools that generate very good income and profits... I know one or 2 involved in hospitality and other profit yielding ventures...

Please, do some research on this subject... I have absolutely nothing against the church. I'm just practical and realistic. Thank you.

Are you very sure assemblies does all you said above or you just want to glorify the devil?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by successmatters(m): 4:30pm On Aug 22, 2019
focus7:


God's advocate go read your bible well Jesus the head of the church paid tithe and admonished his followers to pay tax.

Religion sentiment is one of the reasons Nigeria is still struggling with development after years of Independent

His followers should pay tax like every other Nigerian, show me where Jesus told his church to tax or I will know you are just promoting Satan.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by successmatters(m): 4:31pm On Aug 22, 2019
Okoroawusa:
If a church has a school,an event center,a microfinance bank,a water bottling company then it's expected to pay tax

Does assemblies own all those?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Angelfrost(m): 4:39pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:


Are you very sure assemblies does all you said above or you just want to glorify the devil?

Sigh... I didn't even mention Assemblies. I was talking about churches in general... But, since you have chosen to be specific, find out who owns "Evangel Secondary school" in certain parts of the country especially the East, and if the tuition is free.... And yes, some branches of the church pay rent, own properties and lease them for fees.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by successmatters(m): 4:43pm On Aug 22, 2019
Angelfrost:


Sigh... I didn't even mention Assemblies. I was talking about churches in general... But, since you have chosen to be specific, find out who owns "Evangel Secondary school" in certain parts of the country especially the East, and if the tuition is free.... And yes, some branches of the church pay rent, own properties and lease them for fees.

As ignorant as you are, you haven't even seen their balance sheet and you're here doing your best to give the devil some glory?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by seunmsg(m): 4:48pm On Aug 22, 2019
Omooba77:


Please with all due respect mention any Church that pays tax from commercial activities and I will tender unreserve apology to everyone on Nairaland.

RCCG and Living faith are good examples. They pay taxes on all their commercial activities. RCCG also deduct and remit personal income taxes (PAYE) from the salaries of their full time pastors.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Offixialsecret(m): 4:50pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:


Every church is God's property and you must be careful about how you approach them before you draw the wrath of GOD.

Which income did they generate from books or your just yammering along because you can type rubbish?
if church will pay tax they mosque most also pay nor be we tell them mak they nor sell book
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Offixialsecret(m): 4:52pm On Aug 22, 2019
seunmsg:


Assemblies of God church is not God and asking the church to obey the law does not amount to fighting God. So, don’t mix the two together.

Church are exempted from paying taxes from income generated from tithes and offerings majorly. However, if they generate other incomes from commercial activities such as sales of books and other items, operation of schools etc, they are duty bound to pay taxes on such incomes. Salaries paid to pastors and other workers in the church are also taxable. The church should go and pay up its taxes instead of throwing tantrums around.
if church will pay tax then mosque most pay also nor be tell them mak they nor write book

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Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by focus7: 4:55pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:


His followers should pay tax like every other Nigerian, show me where Jesus told his church to tax or I will know you are just promoting Satan.

Before you call me Satan advocate check these scriptures if your "daddy in the Lord" have not asked you to remove them from your bible.

Matt. 22:16-21, Matt.17:24-27, Rm.13:1

Try read nlt version for clearer understandings.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Angelfrost(m): 4:55pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:


As ignorant as you are, you haven't even seen their balance sheet and you're here doing your best to give the devil some glory?

Back to "glorifying the devil" insinuations, are we?...

Please, bring forth more intelligent and practical refutations, or give it rest...

In the event that you have lost track of the thread of discussion, let me rephrase the sum of my questions: What is the basis for non taxation of places of worship in Nigeria, when a lot of countries do?...

P.S... Take a deep breath, calm those sensitive nerves, and bring forth salient points... When Christ was queried about the tax evasion of his disciples, he didn't allude to the devil... Be like Christ. Thank you.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by successmatters(m): 4:59pm On Aug 22, 2019
Angelfrost:


Back to "glorifying the devil" insinuations, are we?...

Please, bring forth more intelligent and practical refutations, or give it rest...

In the event that you have lost track of the thread of discussion, let me rephrase the sum of my questions: What is the basis for non taxation of places of worship in Nigeria, when a lot of countries do?...

P.S... Take a deep breath, calm those sensitive nerves, and bring forth salient points... When Christ was queried about the tax evasion of his disciples, he didn't allude to the devil... Be like Christ. Thank you.


And I ask again, did Christ tell his Church to pay tax?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by hakeem4(m): 5:17pm On Aug 22, 2019
mastermaestro:


Speak for whatever organization you belong. The church that I belong cannot be taxed!
because of what reason exactly
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Ifyjoshblaze(m): 5:39pm On Aug 22, 2019
Smh
The people I share this country with.
Mtcheew.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Omooba77: 5:49pm On Aug 22, 2019
seunmsg:


RCCG and Living faith are good examples. They pay taxes on all their commercial activities. RCCG also deduct and remit personal income taxes (PAYE) from the salaries of their full time pastors.

I tender, unreserved apology to all Nairaland.

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Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Bluntemperor: 6:13pm On Aug 22, 2019
It's a joke carried too far.May be a mix up somewhere.just ignore..Somebody is trying God.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by abbiboy: 6:29pm On Aug 22, 2019
[quote author=successmatters post=81496350]

Every church is God's property and you must be careful about how you approach them before you draw the wrath of GOD.

Which income did they generate from books or your just yammering

What does God want to do with ur worthless naija naire..with d whole education u still can't comprehend..u re a waste.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Okoroawusa: 6:34pm On Aug 22, 2019
successmatters:

Does assemblies own all those?
Ask Google
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Adekdammy: 6:37pm On Aug 22, 2019
As long as the church generate incomes via sales, it is liable to pay tax.

As long as the church has staff that earn salaries, they are liable to remit paye deducted from the salary of each staff.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by VULCAN(m): 6:41pm On Aug 22, 2019
Muslim BMC is talking and some ignorant Christians are pressing Like!

Most Muslims are always focused on destroying the Body of Christ whether overtly or covertly.

But we know that they lose in the end cool

But as a Christian do your part. so that the warning given in Hosea will not be your portion.

My people are destroyed for.....

seunmsg:


Assemblies of God church is not God and asking the church to obey the law does not amount to fighting God. So, don’t mix the two together.

Church are exempted from paying taxes from income generated from tithes and offerings majorly. However, if they generate other incomes from commercial activities such as sales of books and other items, operation of schools etc, they are duty bound to pay taxes on such incomes. Salaries paid to pastors and other workers in the church are also taxable. The church should go and pay up its taxes instead of throwing tantrums around.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by seunmsg(m): 6:46pm On Aug 22, 2019
VULCAN:
Muslim BMC is talking and some ignorant Christians are pressing Like!

Most Muslims are always focused on destroying the Body of Christ whether overtly or covertly.

But we know that they lose in the end cool

But as a Christian do your part. so that the warning given in Hosea will not be your portion.

My people are destroyed for.....


I’m not a Muslim.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by porka: 6:54pm On Aug 22, 2019
seunmsg:


RCCG and Living faith are good examples. They pay taxes on all their commercial activities. RCCG also deduct and remit personal income taxes (PAYE) from the salaries of their full time pastors.

You must be a very ignorant person or an extremely mischievous human being.

You went from church operating schools down to personal income tax.

Schools do not pay tax in Nigeria and personal income tax (PAYE) of any employee is paid to the state's internal revenue service. PAYE is not collected by the FIRS.

You should stop your mischief. It is not everything you can make yourself available to defend. Even if it is your duty to spin all things on behalf of government, try and get the correct background and details to avoid doing severe damage to your reputation.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by seunmsg(m): 6:57pm On Aug 22, 2019
porka:


You must be a very ignorant person or an extremely mischievous human being.

You went from church operating schools down to personal income tax.

Schools do not pay tax in Nigeria and personal income tax (PAYE) of any employee is paid to the state's internal revenue service. PAYE is not collected by the FIRS.

You should stop your mischief. It is not everything you can make yourself available to defend. Even if it is your duty to spin all things on behalf of government, try and get the correct background and details to avoid doing severe damage to your reputation.

What exactly is your point?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by porka: 7:04pm On Aug 22, 2019
Omooba77:


I tender, unreserved apology to all Nairaland.

Don't let him confuse you. He barely understands what he is saying. Either that, or he is paid to spin government policies every time here.

Schools in Nigeria are registered as limited by guarantee. They are not limited liability companies (they are not limited by shares). They don't pay tax to FIRS. They only pay levies to states where they operate. Similarly, PAYE is not collected by the FIRS. Personal income tax of employees goes to state internal revenue service, where the business is located.

Churches are registered as not for profit organizations. Most of the activities of the church are charities.

It is only the FIRS that can make clarifications on these very unusual inclusion of this church.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by porka: 7:09pm On Aug 22, 2019
seunmsg:


What exactly is your point?

This confirms you do not know what you are saying.

People with grasp of issues don't ask 'what exactly is your point?' when they are expected to clarify their positions or apologize for misleading people.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by seunmsg(m): 7:24pm On Aug 22, 2019
porka:


This confirms you do not know what you are saying.

People with grasp of issues don't ask 'what exactly is your point?' when they are expected to clarify their positions or apologize for misleading people.

I wanted you to clarify the point you’re trying to make before I respond.

My contributions on this thread is very clear. Commercial activities carried out by churches are liable to income taxes. If Assemblies of God church have engaged in commercial activities, the income generated should be subjected to tax.

At no point did I say FIRS is responsible for collecting PAYE. I only buttressed my point by saying even the salaries of pastors and other church workers are subjected to personal income tax.

Your argument that schools don’t pay income taxes is also laughable. If the school was registered to make profit, they are liable to income tax. Schools are only exempted from income tax if they are registered as non profit making and incomes generated are for charitable purposes.

So, I ask again, what exactly is your point?
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Omooba77: 7:53pm On Aug 22, 2019
porka:


Don't let him confuse you. He barely understands what he is saying. Either that, or he is paid to spin government policies every time here.

Schools in Nigeria are registered as limited by guarantee. They are not limited liability companies (they are not limited by shares). They don't pay tax to FIRS. They only pay levies to states where they operate. Similarly, PAYE is not collected by the FIRS. Personal income tax of employees goes to state internal revenue service, where the business is located.

Churches are registered as not for profit organizations. Most of the activities of the church are charities.

It is only the FIRS that can make clarifications on these very unusual inclusion of this church.

Very correct Sir, PAYE goes to State not FIRS. Church is non profit organisation and does not pay tax.
No gate of hell can prevail my brother.
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by ADEMOSU(m): 7:57pm On Aug 22, 2019
Books and education are exempted from tax .the tax authority should state the church offence so that it's spark issue of discrimination .



Assemblies of God church is not God and asking the church to obey the law does not amount to fighting God. So, don’t mix the two together.

Church are exempted from paying taxes from income generated from tithes and offerings majorly. However, if they generate other incomes from commercial activities such as sales of books and other items, operation of schools etc, they are duty bound to pay taxes on such incomes. Salaries paid to pastors and other workers in the church are also taxable. The church should go and pay up its taxes instead of throwing tantrums around. [/quote]
Re: Alleged Tax Default: FIRS’ Action Embarrassing – Assemblies Of God Church by Nobody: 7:58pm On Aug 22, 2019

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