ogawisdom:
There is sense in every nonsense.

Having more than two children in this era is senseless

Antinatalist:


I know I might sound dark and cold but having even a single child is nothing but an act of pure wickedness.

ogawisdom:


Not everyone is poor u Know, only Davido can take care of 50 children n give them the best in life.

Only dangote can take care of a community ie 5000 children

The issue of children is individual specific.

Antinatalist:

No. You're wrong Sir.
Just because you're rich doesn't give you the Right to bring any child into this world. Here's why . .

Your money cannot save that child from disabilities and other medical diseases they may be born with. .
Your money cannot save that child from accidents that might render down motionless for the rest of their lives. .
There's no guarantee that your financial situation won't change in the far future. Therefore making your child suffer.
Your money cannot save that child from anxieties and other mental health issues due to having to run a business to sustain income. .
.

The reasons not to have children are endless. It is better not to bring them at all than to bring them to suffer for nothing.

ogawisdom:


Hmmm I am not sure u are sane I give up on ur mentality

elektra:


He/she is not sane.

ogawisdom:


Hmmm I am not sure u are sane I give up on ur mentality

elektra:


He/she is not sane.

Antinatalist:

No. You're wrong Sir.
Just because you're rich doesn't give you the Right to bring any child into this world. Here's why . .

Your money cannot save that child from disabilities and other medical diseases they may be born with. .
Your money cannot save that child from accidents that might render down motionless for the rest of their lives. .
There's no guarantee that your financial situation won't change in the far future. Therefore making your child suffer.
Your money cannot save that child from anxieties and other mental health issues due to having to run a business to sustain income. .
.

The reasons not to have children are endless. It is better not to bring them at all than to bring them to suffer for nothing.

Antinatalist:


Even at the risk of being thought mad, we must not be afraid to say that our parents, like theirs before them, were guilty of the crime of procreation, which means the crime of creating unhappiness, of conspiring with others to increase the unhappiness of an increasingly unhappy world.

Thomas Bernhard, Gathering Evidence: A Memoir,

ImaIma1:


The reasons not to have them are endless. What about the reasons to have them? What about the healthy children who are mentally intact? You are focusing only on the negative aspects alone. What about the positives?

elektra:


Okay, go an arrest them.

Teaveapoet:
People that needs to hear these words are not mobile. Which means most of them are not educated or learned.

Antinatalist:

You have no logical and/or intellectual argument to defend your view. I only pity the children you're going to drag into this world to suffer because of your selfish desire to be a mother.

elektra:


Lol.
Pray tell, what is my view?
Look through your thread and tell me where I stayed my view on having children.

Antinatalist:


There are several reasons to have children but it can never be for the sake of that child. If you truly love your children and wish them happiness and rest of mind then you not bringing them to this world is the best love you can offer them.

You mention healthy children, being healthy today does not guarantee that one will be healthy in the near future. I need not give too much examples, they're countless stories of people that are healthy and happy today and become bed sick and unhappy for the rest of their lives. ...

I'm not focusing on the negatives, all these are potential harm that can befall on anybody Born into this world. The only we can love our children is to not give birth to them in the first place.

ImaIma1:


How can I love what I do not have or intend to have?

I guess you wish you were not born. There are also countless stories about people that were healthy and happy and still ended up healthy and happy. Put your focus on those ones.

ImaIma1:


How can I love what I do not have or intend to have? ...

ImaIma1:

I guess you wish you were not born.

Antinatalist:

Yes you can. By observing this world and seeing that it is too hard, you can out of sympathy spare that child the burden of existence.
We spend almost 20years of our life getting education. Another stage is wageslaving and paying bills, excluding the possibility of being sick several times and suffering emotional traumas. Plus the anxiety of maintaining a job. At later stage we get old and suffer other complications before dying.

Having witnessed these things associated with living you can have some sympathy for your unborn children and spare them this tragedy called life.




Yes, and I have already forgiven my mother for giving birth to me. I plan not to repeat this mistake she made.

ImaIma1:



I can see your mind is set on the issue. Allow others the privilege of also making their decision on the issue also instead of trying to force down your idea/opinion.

Antinatalist:


You do not even try to address the vital points in my arguments. You just pick a single line that suits you and that's all.

Well. I'll address whatever argument or question you pose to me.

I guess your view on people being happy is that they have a job, stable and sufficient income and they smile often. But in all honesty none of these guarantee happiness and we've seen countless stories of high income people and celebrities committing suicide due to unhappiness.

Secondly. While it is true that they are people in this world that are happy with their life. It's also not a reason to want to bring any child into this world.
This is because you cannot guarantee before-hand that the kid you're bring into this world is going to be happy with that life you're going to impose on them.
It is possible that the kid might even get sick only to suffer before he/she becomes an adult. .
It's also possible that you may even die before that kid becomes an adult leaving them prey to both physical and emotional abuse by people around them.

I could go on but I know you really have no interest in my arguments but rather you're hell bent in trying to show me how wrong I am. If you look at the negative aspects of life and still insist in creating babies then you're actually gambling with someone's life. It's best to leave that child in peace than force life on them.

Antinatalist:


There are several reasons to have children but it can never be for the sake of that child. If you truly love your children and wish them happiness and rest of mind then you not bringing them to this world is the best love you can offer them.

You mention healthy children, being healthy today does not guarantee that one will be healthy in the near future. I need not give too much examples, they're countless stories of people that are healthy and happy today and become bed sick and unhappy for the rest of their lives. ...

I'm not focusing on the negatives, all these are potential harm that can befall on anybody Born into this world. The only we can love our children is to not give birth to them in the first place.

ImaIma1:


There's no need dissecting your comments. I am already repelled by the pessimism, despair and negativity that seems to be your anchor and I don't want you dragging me along into it.

theButterfly:
If two healthy get married, there's no reason why their child shouldn't be healthy. If they want to take extra precautions, non-invasive prenatal testings that detects chromosomal abnormalities in a baby’s DNA, reproductive carrier genetic screening and other advancements in genetic testings have made it possible to know about a baby before they're born, so there's no reason why anyone should listen to your weak argument that they shouldn't have children b|c no one knows what the future holds. It's like telling people to never leave their homes b|c anything could happen if they step out. We all might as well be 6-feet under then if we're so riddled with the fear of living.

I'll only advice people to not have kids if they're poor and don't yet have the means to care for them, OR if genetic testing has revealed incompatibilities or future issues for their child [e.g. sickle cell trait] if they proceed.

Antinatalist:

You have no logical and/or intellectual argument to defend your view. I only pity the children you're going to drag into this world to suffer because of your selfish desire to be a mother.

Antinatalist:

No. You're wrong Sir.
Just because you're rich doesn't give you the Right to bring any child into this world. Here's why . .

Your money cannot save that child from disabilities and other medical diseases they may be born with. .
Your money cannot save that child from accidents that might render down motionless for the rest of their lives. .
There's no guarantee that your financial situation won't change in the far future. Therefore making your child suffer.
Your money cannot save that child from anxieties and other mental health issues due to having to run a business to sustain income. .
.

The reasons not to have children are endless. It is better not to bring them at all than to bring them to suffer for nothing.