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Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 8:17am On Aug 30, 2019
As usual this thread might seem controversial and the timing a bit off, but this is cartalk and we talking about cars.

The autos section is littered with Nigerian used vehicles at varying prices some cars ridiculously cheap, some others even more expensive than tokumbor vehicles

E.g https://www.nairaland.com/5375972/2009-2010-toyota-camry

I buy and sell used and tokumbor vehicles on a weekly basis, I also do a lot of paid vehicle evaluations and come across a lot of vehicles with varying degrees of defects . After doing this a lot of times you know what to expect even before getting to the location of the vehicle.

At this point kindly note that there are still quite a few good Nigerian used vehicles out there and this should not be a generalization of all used cars .

This thread will list most of the common issues with certain brands and vehicle models that pushed them into the market.

Again useful tools like vin reports should be employed before purchasing vehicles with verifiable VINS.


As usual the thread is for educational purposes, if you do not have anything positive to contribute , read and pass.


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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 8:18am On Aug 30, 2019
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Lienn: 8:27am On Aug 30, 2019
I have some questions to ask... But let me wait till you finish
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 8:52am On Aug 30, 2019
Toyota Corolla 2002-2007





Toyota Corolla (E120)
The Toyota Corolla (E120/E130) is the ninth generation of compact cars sold by Toyota under the Corolla nameplate. In Japan, this series arrived to the market in August 2000; however, exports were typically not achieved until 2001 and 2002 depending on the market.




I am starting with this because it seems to be the most popular Nigerian used vehicle on this platform.

Most people are of the opinion that it only comes with the standard 1zz-fe engine, but this vehicle has a variation of engine types depending on what region on the globe the vehicle came from.



Engine types

Powertrain
Engine
1.3L I4 2NZ-FE
1.4L I4 4ZZ-FE
1.5L I4 1NZ-FE
1.6L I4 1ZR-FE
1.6L I4 3ZZ-FE
1.8L I4 1ZZ-FE
1.8L I4 2ZZ-GE
1.4L I4 1ND-TV D-4D diesel
2.0L I4 1CD-FTV D-4D diesel


Foreign used Corolla prices for the 2003-2007 vary from 1.5m to as much as 2.2m

So why are you getting a cheap deal on that Nigerian used Corolla ? Let's discuss.

1.Extensive wear and tear to body engine and suspension parts

It is an ex Ehailing vehicle (Uber tins): vehicles used for Ehailing usually suffer the worst type of abuse that can be given to a vehicle. Extended oil change intervals, poor suspension setup, varying degrees of body dents and scratches usually covered up with poor paint work.

Engines with sludge, multiple gasket changes and compromised/abused air-conditioning systems are not uncommon.

2. Stolen vehicle: this needs no explanation

3. Converted vehicle : vehicle conversions from right to left hand drive are very common in this part of the world, usually poorly done and will tend to have electrical and air-conditioning issues, also a very uncomfortable cabin with the windows wound up, you would perceive a lot from the outside while inside the vehicle .

4. Extensive rust: Flooded cars and cars from icy regions in the USA, Europe and Canada are very cheap, most times a first time buyer realizes late and only realizes the extent of damage when car is due for suspension repair work, owner then decided to resell vehicle.

5. Engine issues. Replacing the engine of the regular 1zz-fe hovers around 200-300k depending on what you are buying and who is installing it, usually most people just factor in that loss and out up the car for sale when engine becomes defective (oil burn, rattling sounds , knocking sounds, smoking)

6. Frustration: when you invest your 2m on a good Corolla and give it out for rental hoping to get 30,000 a week from a driver only for him to default serially within 6months and work up a repair bill which is almost at par with his weekly delivery.... You know the rest cheesy

7. Relocation: when Baba God pics your call and you escape from this change you can sell your Corolla very cheap and say bye bye Nigeria wink (these are good deals if genuine )

8. Vehicle upgrades. When you are tired of using your reliable Corolla that you have had for 5years and want to upgrade to a nissan pathfinder 2008 lipsrsealed

9. Sever electrical abuse: electrical abuse can be very frustrating, and when wiring and fuseboxes have been compromised cars can be out up for sale.

10. Fear, you witnessed your friends vehicle stolen at gun point , he nearly escaped unhurt , you have same brand of vehicle... Tomorrow you list it for sale and buy a Volvo cc valarinz




More vehicles loading... Feel free to add urs

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Newbreed2018: 8:53am On Aug 30, 2019
Gazuzz:
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 8:53am On Aug 30, 2019
Lienn:
I have some questions to ask... But let me wait till you finish


it is going to be a very loooooong thread as i will list what i commonly see when i inspect vehicles better ask early
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 8:55am On Aug 30, 2019


While still loading content let me quickly add this.

Most Nigerians are used to using 20w50 mineral engine oils across board, most are used to bypassing fans and removing thermostats and using water instead of coolant So abuse is usually a standard in most used vehicles bought in Nigeria. The effects of abuse are not noticeable immediately but after a couple of years.


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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by mejai(m): 9:03am On Aug 30, 2019
Gazuzz:


Toyota Camry 2007-2009

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just yesterday, someone complained of engine oil burning at an auto workshop. I told him to accept his fate since their is no visible leaks grin
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 9:30am On Aug 30, 2019
while still loading content, i came across this.

https://www.nairaland.com/5387652/benz-608-sale#81750109



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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Lienn: 9:41am On Aug 30, 2019
Gazuzz:
while still loading content, i came across this.

https://www.nairaland.com/5387652/benz-608-sale#81750109




This thread must be a joke

As for my questions, I'll ask as you progress. You may even answer them as we journey through this pilgrim land
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by valarinz: 9:53am On Aug 30, 2019
Volvo used to be cheap, Nigerians and their crowd mentality are gradually changing that

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by diportivo: 10:08am On Aug 30, 2019
there are plenty cheap cars in ijaiye

infact,their threads are always termed giveaways.....na all their motor dem dey giveaway for that side grin

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by protocol(m): 10:26am On Aug 30, 2019
Mek I spread my mat as Oga won begin lectures.

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by valarinz: 10:48am On Aug 30, 2019
diportivo:
there are plenty cheap cars in ijaiye

infact,their threads are always termed giveaways.....na all their motor dem dey giveaway for that side grin

Which of the ijaiye? Ifako-ijaiye?

Also, volvo dey there? Just asking for a friend..
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 10:51am On Aug 30, 2019




Toyota Camry 2007 - 2009 XV40

Comes with the V6 2grfe and 4cylinder 2az option


I will not go into its long history, you can read up on that here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Camry


What to expect when sourcing for a Nigerian used one.

The 4cylinder 2az-fe specification


1. Air-conditioning issues. The vehicle is equipped with a vdc (variable displacement compressor ) it was the first of its kind in the Camry series to receive the new technology. In this part of the world most technicians are not up to date with modern techniques of fixing air-conditioning issues so let me explain how and why there are thousands of camrys with faulty/abused/converted air-conditioning systems.

First the car is shipped in as a toks car usually with front impact , there is radiator and condenser damage. (Note the a/c was working in onyibo land before the accident), parts are replaced or welded as the case may be, the system is recharged without vacuuming and 3weeks or less later the compressor fails. The vdc in the Camry is extra sensitive to external contamination and moisture , the compressor will give up in the shortest possible time when proper proceedures are not followed .

The next recommendations are a manual compressor which can tolerate abuse and some welding of pipes and modification of wiring. Now this works pretty well for a while, until the evaporator gives up , why? In most cases the thermostat functions are bypassed and the temp of the core gets so cold that it cracks and start to leak. It's a cycle of repairs until owner gets fed up and sells the car.

2. Engine. The 2az-fe engine in the Camry 2007-2009 built in the USA suffers a defect from the design of the piston, almost all of them burn engine oil . There is really no local solution unless you are ready to buy new pistons (updated part) and rings, this will cost you an arm and a leg factoring all costs and will be close to the price of buying the Asian spec of the same 2az engine that does not suffer the same fate. Most vehicle users are not used to doing routine checking their vehicles in the morning and usually end up knocking that engine. Quick solution by most mechanics is to polish the affected crankshaft, slip on new bearings and the owner puts up the car for sale (buy and drive) cheesy

Overheating : the 2az Fe engine is a full aluminium engine and does not fare well with overheating once it has suffered sever overheating it goes down hill from there until engine is replaced .

Transmission: The 5-speed U250E transmission popularly called 13pin gearbox is a nightmare to even the most qualified transmission specialist , it has zero tolerance for abuse or contamination. The sequence of failure usually goes thus. Mechanic replaces shafts, forward gears start acting up, only reverse gear works well . Or mechanic replaces radiator , and gears start to act up , or mechanic changes transmission fluid and gears start to act up . You hardly hear of transmission failure due to high mileage of the vehicle , it is usually prompted by a repair procedures not done in sanitary conditions

The V6

The usually wahala with the V6 is the transmission it is very expensive 450k and when it begins to fail the owner usually puts it up for sale.









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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 10:54am On Aug 30, 2019



RAV4 2002-2006


This particular vehicle is plagued with a transmission failure caused by a defective engine/transmission ECU. The problems starts when the car shifts from 2nd gear back to first before switching to 3rd and 4th gear, it wears out the friction plates.

Sadly most technicians do not know it is a very simple problem to solve , and the transmission is replaced, the engine ECU is swapped with the wrong part number and the vehicle runs and drives, but poorly, the temp guage stops working, load is not compensated when the a/c system is turned on and the idle system is always erratic .

As usual the same issues with a full aluminium 1az engine apply and if there is any history of overheating and abuse same conditions follow as the Camry 2az.

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by OfficialSam(m): 3:10pm On Aug 30, 2019
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by MyMouth(m): 3:28pm On Aug 30, 2019
Gazuzz:


While still loading content let me quickly add this.

Most Nigerians are used to using 20w50 mineral engine oils across base, most are used to bypassing fans and removing thermostats and using water instead of coolant So abuse is usually a standard in most used vehicles bought in Nigeria. The effects of abuse are not noticeable immediately but after a couple of years.


Oga Gazzuz, good afternoon, pls I jus got a Corolla 2004 from, the lady I got it from has been servicing with Mobil
20w50 and using water instead of coolant. Pls is it ok for me to continue with the oil? As for coolant, I intend to start using one, which one should I buy? And should I add it to the water in the radiator?or I have to drain all the water first?
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Joystark(f): 5:05pm On Aug 30, 2019
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 5:52pm On Aug 30, 2019
The accord 2003-2007 V6


Superb engine, it has a very sensitive catalytic converter and will get blocked when the emission system in the car is not working optimally, our petrol also does not help matters.

Major issue why the car is sold is a faulty transmission

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 5:58pm On Aug 30, 2019


ACURA TL

Third generation (UA6-UA7) 2004-2008

Automatic transmission failure is the main reason for sale.

Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 5:59pm On Aug 30, 2019
Kia Rio 2011(12)-2017

3 things to look out for.

1. The engine : very expensive full aluminium engine that easily gets bad when vehicle overheats engine price hovers around ₦500,000

2. Same problem with the VDC compressor sadly this one gets bad without any interference before vehicle hits 50,000km modifying the a/c system is a real pain as the engine is usually a 1.4liter engine or 1.2liter and will vibrate under load when a manual compressor is installed

3. Electronic steering column and steering rack, : our roads were not designed for electronic assisted steerings.





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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by captainking(m): 5:59pm On Aug 30, 2019
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 6:21pm On Aug 30, 2019
Hyundai accent 2012-2017


Same issues as the Kia Rio.

Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by duality(m): 7:16pm On Aug 30, 2019
Gazzuz, you must answer the question of this thread ooh.

Coz that is what I'm waiting for
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Gazuzz(m): 7:42pm On Aug 30, 2019
vehicles fit with the 1GR-FE engine


The 1GR-FE is the 4.0 L (3,956 cc) version, designed for longitudinal mounting in RWD and 4WD pickup applications. It has a bore and a stroke of 94 mm × 95 mm (3.70 in × 3.74 in). Output is 236 hp (176 kW; 239 PS) at 5200 rpm with 266 lb⋅ft (361 N⋅m) of torque at 4000 rpm on 87 octane, and 240 hp (179 kW; 243 PS) at 5200 rpm with 278 lb⋅ft (377 N⋅m) at 3700 rpm on 91 octane. This engine features Toyota's VVT-i, variable valve timing system on the intake cam and a compression ratio of 10.0:1. Service weight, including fluids, is 166 kg (366 lb).




2002-2009 Toyota 4Runner / Hilux Surf (GRN210/215)
2007-2011 Toyota Land Cruiser (GRJ200)
2002-2009 Toyota Land Cruiser Prado (GRJ120/121/125)
2004–2015 Toyota Tacoma (GRN225/245/250/265/270)
2005-2015 Toyota Hilux (GGN10/20)
2005-2006 Toyota Tundra (GSK30)
2006-2009 Toyota Tundra (GSK50/51)
2005–2015 Toyota Fortuner (GGN50/60)
2006-2009 Toyota FJ Cruiser (GSJ10/15)
2015–present Toyota Hilux
Applications with Dual VVT-i (calendar years):

2009–present Toyota 4Runner (GRN280/285)
2009–2017 Toyota FJ Cruiser
2011–2013 Toyota Tundra (GSK50/51)
2012–present Toyota Land Cruiser
2012–present Lexus GX 400 (GRJ150)
2014-present Toyota Land Cruiser 70
2015–present Toyota Fortuner
2009–present Toyota Land Cruiser Prado (GRJ150/150R/155)


The engine price starts from ₦900,000

Ensure you inspect properly before purchase.



Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by nurey(m): 8:00pm On Aug 30, 2019
Don't forget to talk about the Almera N17 cause someone tagged one 500k here from those ijaye sellers, I shock but I didn't comment not to be called a badbelle by goons.

Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by afoife: 8:04pm On Aug 30, 2019
Oga Gaz you did not make any reference to the I4 Honda. And the 2009 Honda Accord. please do when you have the time.

Secondly how does one recognize the engine variant available for the Corolla.

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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by fotadmowmend(m): 8:08pm On Aug 30, 2019
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Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by Nobody: 9:07pm On Aug 30, 2019
Gazuzz:


ACURA TL

Third generation (UA6-UA7) 2004-2008

Automatic transmission failure is the main reason for sale.



You cannot discuss Acura TL and skip Acura RL ....... cheesy
Re: Are There Cheap Nigerian Used Cars? by diportivo: 10:34pm On Aug 30, 2019
nurey:
Don't forget to talk about the Almera N17 cause someone tagged one 500k here from those ijaye sellers, I shock but I didn't comment not to be called a badbelle by goons.


ijaiye people ehn

dem notorious die grin

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