The removal of Fulani Emir in illorin should be put to a vote at the National Assembly.

DabELLs:
I was born in Ilorin and live most of my life here. Some people especially the Igbo's will just sit in their rooms and be typing shii on what they are ignorant of. Afonja came to Ilorin the same way Alimi came. They both migrated to Ilorin so Ilorin was never a Yoruba only town right from the onset.
Besides, some of the Emir's children and family can not even speak Fulani language again. The dominating language in Ilorin is Yoruba. In addition, how many Fulani has become the governor in Kwara before?

At the bold, is that the lie the Emirate has been telling you people?
Yorubas founded Ilorin even before Alimi was born and Afonja was
not the first Yoruba warlord to rule the city.

Afonja is not a foreigner to Ilorin anymore than an Oyo person is a foreigner to Ibadan.

Unlike the treacherous Alimi has no tie whatsoever to Ilorin.

Had Afonja not rebelled against his king, there would be neither an Emir
nor Zulugambari as the traditional ruler of the city.

It doesn't matter what language the Emir children speak. The title of the
king in a Yoruba town must be Oba not Emir.

PureGoldh:
This one na Xenophokwara

op looking for trouble

helinues:

I wont say that cos I don't know him.. But anybody can be mischievous..
Where are Hausa/Fulani dominating in Kwara?

illorin

chiedozie198100:


soo now cos there is a yoruba name inbetween, that makes him yoruba?

chibuike Rotimi Amaechi.

even the celebrated[b] tunde idiagbon was a Fulani man[/b] (i know most Nigerians did not know that).

No you are lying Tunde idiagbon was not a fulani man.

And as a matter fact, there is no pure fulani man in ilorin again.

Most of them inter married when they came.

The only reason people are still claiming fulani today by rich in ilorin is that its profitable in today Nigeria to be connected to power

DennisEche:
In summary, Afonjas are traitors and betrayals. If not why invite alimi a Fulani man to fight ur brother. The curse is on a every afonja to be slaves. No wonder they are ass Licking the Fulani's.

Let's forget about Yoruba or Fulani issues the emir is not serving in the interest of his people all who will remember that if he had live up to expectations, imagine emir taking contracts and as low as cutting the state prayer ground. I wonder why he's still on the throne as rumors has it that if saraki loses he will step down.

I took my time to read this story lol....I can now understand why some people regard the Yorubas as AFONJA on this forum...as for other arguments here I can't even join lol...I was in Ilorin some years ago n I want to reserve my comment.

MelesZenawi:



Saraki lineage are from Mali..

Read interview of sarakis father himself..

Say what you know..

Truth so don't you know that there are Fulani in Mali

He is from the descendant of fulanis from Mali that migrated to present day ilorin

PureFace1:



Both Saraki and Tunde Idiagbon didn't have Fulani Heritage

Tunde idiagbon father is Hassan dogo (the name alone tells u he is fulani and his mother is Yoruba


You are just being mischievous

Alaska90:


No you are lying Tunde idiagbon was not a fulani man.

And as a matter fact, there is no pure fulani man in ilorin again.

Most of them inter married when they came.

The only reason people are still claiming fulani today by rich in ilorin is that its profitable in today Nigeria to be connected to power

Mr Man they are of fulanis heritage what are you arguing about self why can't you just see it

Imagine these people history are clear and you are arguing here like wtf


Olusola Saraki was born on the 17th of May, 1933 at Ilorin, Kwara State and died in Lagos November 14, 2012.[1] His mother was from Iseyin in Oyo State and his father was from Ilorin. His paternal ancestors were Fulanis who came from Mali about 150 to 200 years earlier


Wikipedia

Caseless:
No, it's xenofulani.

This man sure knows there's a conspiracy against the Fulani right now, so he finds a better time to speak. He should have come out to say this when senior saraki and junior Saraki were in charge. I think the current governor is also a Fulani man in a way.

Fulani are supporting Saraki so it's not advisable to create that kind of topic during Saraki's time.
Saraki even increased Emir's Veto power over all Royal Highness in Kwara state not even ilorin alone.

helinues:


What's the name of the Emir?
Can you name where hausa/fulani dominate in Kwara?

You guys will come online to argue about something you have no knowledge about..

1. Banni,kaiama local government.

PureFace1:



Shut up your mouth


You are talking about an Emir in Yoruba Land


Have you collected back all the Land Igala people displaced you from?

It was known in History that Igala people enslaved and Colonized Igbo and I don't know what is more shameful than that


Even the Obi of Onitsha originated from Benin and Ijaw people sold Igbo as slaves

You should be more shameful

As usual instead of focusing on Fulani you will still mention Igbos, ihave observed that Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria that Fulanis respect, that's a fact, you can ask any Fulani around

Revolva:


Truth so don't you know that there are Fulani in Mali

He is from the descendant of fulanis from Mali that migrated to present day ilorin


Mr Man they are of fulanis heritage what are you arguing about self why can't you just see it

Imagine these people history are clear and you are arguing here like wtf


Olusola Saraki was born on the 17th of May, 1933 at Ilorin, Kwara State and died in Lagos November 14, 2012.[1] His mother was from Iseyin in Oyo State and his father was from Ilorin. His paternal ancestors were Fulanis who came from Mali about 150 to 200 years earlier


Wikipedia

please I don't have your strength

MelesZenawi:



please I don't have your strength

Why are you always arguing and causing trouble on every thread

People that are from fulani heritage and you are here saying another thing even murtala Muhammed is fulani heritage from Kano

Oga abeg relax

Franking:

So, is the emir Yoruba? If not why not?

The Emir-ship is of Fulani and not Yoruba, don't let that guy to deceive you,

But Yoruba supposed to have their own Muslim leader based on Yoruba culture and Yoruba Muslims should stop look up to Sokoto Caliphate.
If the Muslims from Togo, Ghana, Chad can be independent from the Sokoto Caliphate, the Yoruba Nation can do it too

aremuforlife:
That is part of OBJ failure as a Yoruba man who has ruled this country twice, we shouldn't expect a fulani man to support suppressing a fulani communities.
Let's hope that another Yoruba president will do justice to that.

i doubt sir even if obj tried it he would have been attacked or even killed the British work hand in hand with the fulanis its a game plan. Same thing dat happened to mohammed lawal who also wanted a yoruba king in kwara. There is an imam who has been clamouring for such up for a while we have not heard from him!

naijacentric:
i doubt sir even if obj tried it he would have been attacked or even killed the British work hand in hand with the fulanis its a game plan. Same thing dat happened to mohammed lawal who also wanted a yoruba king in kwara. There is an imam who has been clamouring for such up for a while we have not heard from him!

It is now 195 years that Ilorin which was founded by the progenitors of Afonja thousand of years ago,has had emir as the traditional rulers.
The Imam still exists and so are many others who are Ilorin muslims but detest how FG continues to fuel this Fulani thing in Ilorin.The British does not have anything to do with Emirship again especially the fake one in Ilorin...they call it...copycat emir...
The only thing retaining the Emir in Ilorin is the FG.The Yorubas have used both force and diplomacy....going to court,up to supreme court....but FG still sits on the white paper till date.
Knowig Yoruba,Afonja descendants who are the original indigines and owners of Ilorin,will take their rightful inheritance.

Islam has been the instrument of domination and Conquest that the Fulanis have been using to capture territories of other ethnic groups in Nigeria. The Hausas and Yorubas are examples of conquered regions. They keep advancing using the deceit of spreading Islam. The Lagosians and other Yoruba regions better watch out before Buhari in connivance with Tinubu conquer Lagos and install an Emir of Lagos. I weep for Yoruba muslims who are not wise enough to notice this.

Emilokoiyawon:


Its purely due to religion. Most of the Ilorin Yorubas are Muslims and hence see the emir as a spiritual leader. Its similar to how millions of Igbo Christians see Yoruba pastors as spiritual leaders. Nevertheless, I hope that eventually, the Yorubas in Ilorin will right the ship. And take back their heritage.

millions of Igbo's see Yoruba pastors as their spiritual leaders? you've got to be kidding!

helinues:


What's the name of the Emir?
Can you name where hausa/fulani dominate in Kwara?

You guys will come online to argue about something you have no knowledge about..

What do you know sir?... Answer the question directly... Why would your Oba title be Emir?

Biety:
When OPC wanted to dispose the Emir of Ilorin in 1999, Obasanjo threatened to comfront them with Nigeria army,only God knows the reason behind his action then.
This issue is also very complicated among the indigenes,they can't even find common ground on what they realy want. There are Kwara/Ilorin Indigenes who don't want the throne of Emir to continue,likewise there are some who don't see it as issue. Solution can only come when the Indigenes speak with one voice.

And the indigenes can never speak with one voice, because some of the indigenes have Fulani blood (roots), others Yoruba, others Hausa, Nupe or Bariba even though everyone speaks yoruba.

Biety:

Hey warn yaself o, na my people u dey insult so.
The issue is that there are Ilorin indigenes who claim to be fulanis when it suit them but they bear yoruba names,dress like yorubas and speak yoruba languge so fluently that you'll not even be able to tell if they are yoruba or not. Some of them have Yoruba mother and fulani father and vice versa, they are the ones that are always against the idea of removing the emir title from Ilorin.
They may agree with the pure yoruba indigenes there on every other issue but not on the removal of Emir title from Ilorin. Note that they too can claim to be Yorubas without any one disputing it.

This is exactly the same thing with Fulanis of the Northwest like Buhari, Shagari, Yar'adua e.t.c

They claim to be fulanis, but Hausa is the only language they speak, they practice Hausa culture and eat Hausa food. The real fulanis in Adamawa do not even regard the likes of Buhari as fulanis.
Fulanis in Kwara are Yorubanized fulanis, same way fulanis in the North-west are Hausanized fulanis. Fulanis never forget their roots (origins) even if they become Hausanized or Yorubanized. This is one thing about them.

Tflex01:
What many people don't understand (except the Igbos that are just mischievous) is that, religion is playing a bigger role in Ilorin matter.


If the Yoruba Muslims in Ilorin are ready to change that title, they will.

It would be difficult for them because Fulanis call the shots in Nigeria (especially Northern Nigeria which Kwara state is officially a part of). It will lead to a full scale crisis/war. It's just like saying Emir of Minna should be removed and an Etsu Minna should be put because Gbagyis own Minna. Lailai.

Emilokoiyawon:


That's interesting. I did not know there is a British component to this issue. At any rate, it is a wrong that must be corrected either the Fulanis (or their fake Yoruba conspirators aka Gambaris) like it or not.

This will never happen as long as the Sokoto caliphate exists and Fulanis continue to be very influential in Nigeria. It can only happen in a Yoruba-independent country which Kwara state is a part of.

Ritchiee:

Ilorin indigenes have never swayed from being Yorubas but for a few Yoruba Fulani amongst them.who have one of their parents as Yoruba or Fulani.

I pity you if you think the indigenes of Ilorin with fulani blood are very few.
See, fulani bood is very contagious, anybody with as little as a fulani grandmother or greatgrandmother has automatically been pro fulani. Don't take what some of these people claiming to be Yoruba in Ilorin tell you, cos if the wahala starts you will be shocked how many of them will come outside to support pro-fulani.
Many pro fulani in Ilorin also claims to be Yoruba when it suits them, but when the chips are down, it becomes a dfferent story.

Ilorin is just like parts of Delta Igbo where too many of them are of Edo, Igala or Yoruba blood. They will tell you they are Igbos today, tomorrow they will deny Igbo identity like a plague.

Ritchiee:

Ilorin indigenes have never swayed from being Yorubas but for a few Yoruba Fulani amongst them.who have one of their parents as Yoruba or Fulani.

Bro a lot of ilorin, kabba and offa hates identifying as Yoruba

DabELLs:


You are so ignorant... is it Tunde that is Fulani name or Idiagbon? And who told you Saraki is a Fulani man. Has Saraki ever spoke Fulani to you before?

You guys don't just understand these things no matter how they explain these things to you.

Buhari who claims to be a fulani man does not speak a word of fulani. Daura where he comes from, Hausa is the only culture and language spoken there.
Fulani identity is not based on language or culture.
There are Hausanized fulanis as well as Yorubanized fulanis. Fulanis never forget their identity no matter how much they adopt the culture & language of their hosts.

In reality, Fulanis do not have any land in Nigeria. They came from Senegal area and mixed with all Nigerian tribes, most were absorbed into their host tribes but never forgot their identities.

Iamgrey5:
Although they don't claim they are not Yourubas and they speak Yoruba variant of Oke-Ogun Yoruba language.

it's hard to get them to accept cutting ties with Emir and it's frustrating.

It's even more frustrating when one realises that majority of the government officials are Yorubas.

These people have been brainwashed by religion just like most Hausas have been brainwashed by religion to allow Fulani control them in the name of islam.

The day Fulani control of Hausas end is the day Fulani influence in Nigeria dies! Fulanis are a minority tribe in Nigeria but are so powerful because they control the Hausas (a majority tribe) and control Islam in Nigeria.

Yorubas are lucky that Fulanis captured only Kwara and not the whole Yoruba land, if not they would have been like Hausas today.

Iamgrey5:
They would never do that .

They might even fight anyone that tries to talk about it in the public.

Most of them believe they are practicing Islamic culture.

So Ilorin indigenes have to help themselves before other Yorubas get involved.

They can never help themselves unless they stop becoming muslims.
This is just like saying Hausas should help themselves break out of fulani domination.

Fulanis are wise as they use inter-marriage to infiltrate the Ilorin elite class to the extent that almost reasonable or rich yoruba person in Ilorin has a fulani wife, fulani mother or fulani inlaws. This is exactly how fulanis manage to control Hausa land too.