Uniben to the world.. Congratulations my igbo brother.

The reason why the guy is not there as an officer but rather a sailor is because the US military doesn't have a provision for a non citizen to be a commissioned officer the only wing you can serve in is the other rank (recruit). And I'm sure they have a reason for that.

Ombre:


Oga Sir may your days be long.
Compliments Sir.

These folks just throwing smoke like they really know what they saying about the military structure.

You won't blame them sir.. Things change everyday..

What a small world...who would know...this my guy for hall3 that year......we campaigned for him to be sport director........great one bro..keep sailing high

TRIGITIS:

Oga, by Short Service, you mean their stay in the military will be for short period, and I have told you already that they get converted to have same status as their NDA trained counterparts.

Again, when you say holding command, short service officers are holding commands in the army very well. Some of them are given the command of battalions and even higher.

When you talk about professional, I think you are getting it very wrong. Check their requirements when they advertise for recruitment, it cuts across almost all courses studied in the universities.

I also know they are taken into all the corps of the army such as infantry, armour, these are the ones I know.

On point...

Refer him to look at DSSC and SSC...

TRIGITIS:

This is just your thinking, go to the barracks and find out what's happening.

Both regular officers and dssc officers get same treatment, I'm not telling you to agree with me o. I no fit shout.

Hahaha..... Jst imagine wat u saying. For ur info, i am a military man, Nigerian Army to be precise. So do u still have what to tell me? Tell me wat i dont knw abt my service.

Dagger111:


Hahaha..... Jst imagine wat u saying. For ur info, i am a military man, Nigerian Army to be precise. So do u still have what to tell me? Tell me wat i dont knw abt my service.

And if you are truly in the military, you should know the meaning of godfatherism.

TRIGITIS:

And if you are truly in the military, you should know the meaning of godfatherism.

Lolz... Imagine this guy o, u want to tell me abt godfatherism in the military? That's norms for pple like u that like eye service.

Dagger111:


Lolz... Imagine this guy o, u want to tell me abt godfatherism in the military? That's norms for pple like u that like eye service.

You missed the point.

You were making noise about who gets juicy posting and who doesn't get, trying to use the type of commission as a determinant, hence my question.

The exact point is that godfatherism is the koko and doesn't depend on the type of officer.

Abeg make dem come carry me abeg I really want to join.

If these people just come Nigeria dey recruit, millions will grab the opportunity

Oluwa pick up my call ohh...

Cybertext:


Are you sure of this information?? Please don't pass wrong information... No former COAS was ever from SSC they are all regular officers... The highest I've seen a SSC/DSSC is a Major Gen....or equivalent

oga...say what you know..SSC was once COAS if not twice..yes..his name was Isah bamaiyi..my dad educates us about this all the time...y'all should say what you know

TRIGITIS:
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Meaning Ashiedu is a university graduate.

But a university graduate as a junior sailor?

Personally, I don't really see any big deal here o.

For the unintelligent ignoramuses who might start disturbing my mention, there is a difference between officers and sailors. Officers are university graduates while sailors are not.

The man with 3 yellow bars on his shoulders is the only officer in the 2nd picture, the rest are sailors.

The short Man besides him is also an officer, while the one with the Yellow bar is a Commodore,the one besides him most likely senior him.
He has a star to his Collar which indicates he's equivalent to a brigadier in the Army,I don't know what its called in the Navy

TRIGITIS:

You missed the point.

You were making noise about who gets juicy posting and who doesn't get, trying to use the type of commission as a determinant, hence my question.

The exact point is that godfatherism is the koko and doesn't depend on the type of officer.

Whether godfatherism or nt, can appointment of Chief of Army Staff (COAS) be given to a DSSC, SSC officer or regular officer? Sure it must go to a Regular officer dat went to NDA. A DSSC officer av never been given such appointment before. Wake up man

Dagger111:



Whether godfatherism or nt, can appointment of Chief of Army Staff (COAS) be given to a DSSC, SSC officer or regular officer? Sure it must go to a Regular officer dat went to NDA. A DSSC officer av never been given such appointment before. Wake up man

Appointment of service chiefs is done by the president and that is highly political. If the president decides to appoint a dssc officer, pls who will stop him? I understand the present CAS is even a dssc officer, why not go and remove him because he is not NDA graduate?

Besides, we are not even talking about service chiefs, what we are talking about is postings for officers below the rank of COAS/CNS/CAS. If for instance the service chief decides to appoint a dssc officer to head a unit, who will stop him? That is where godfatherism matters.

Solatium:



The short Man besides him is also an officer, while the one with the Yellow bar is a Commodore,the one besides him most likely senior him.
He has a star to his Collar which indicates he's equivalent to a brigadier in the Army,I don't know what its called in the Navy

Officers carry their ranks on shoulders. There is just one officer in the picture, though I don't know his rank. But certainly he is not a commodore because that is just 3 stripes. What do you say of officers with 4 stripes? Google the rank insignia of navy officers. Besides, he is too young to be a commodore.

TRIGITIS:

Officers carry their ranks on shoulders. There is just one officer in the picture, though I don't know his rank. But certainly he is not a commodore because that is just 3 stripes. What do you say of officers with 4 stripes? Google the rank insignia of navy officers. Besides, he is too young to be a commodore.

Commodore is just an equivalent of a Colonel in the Army,are you saying that Man is too young to be Colonel in the Army?
These people join the military early and rise through the rank via training,battles and what have you.
A friend of mine who joined the US Navy at a rank of Petty something has an MBA,when I saw the group picture of the commander of his unit,she is a female in her late 20's .and he told me they usually join early (16-18yrs)

TRIGITIS:

Appointment of service chiefs is done by the president and that is highly political. If the president decides to appoint a dssc officer, pls who will stop him? I understand the present CAS is even a dssc officer, why not go and remove him because he is not NDA graduate?

Besides, we are not even talking about service chiefs, what we are talking about is postings for officers below the rank of COAS/CNS/CAS. If for instance the service chief decides to appoint a dssc officer to head a unit, who will stop him? That is where godfatherism matters.

Heading a Unit is norms dat any officer fitted can be chosen bt in the term of appointment of Maj Gens, d DSSC are always excluding. Mention two maj gens dat reached dat peak before. I'm enjoying this with u.

Solatium:


Commodore is just an equivalent of a Colonel in the Army, are you saying that Man is too young to be Colonel in the Army?
These people join the military early and rise through the rank via training,battles and what have you.
A friend of mine who joined the US Navy at a rank of Petty something has an MBA,when I saw the group picture of the commander of his unit,she is a female in her late 20's .and he told me they usually join early (16-18yrs)

As per bolded, I give up. Pls do your findings before coming to public forum.

Hint: A navy captain is equivalent to army colonel, find the rest on your own.

Again, there is nowhere in the world you join the navy as petty officer. A petty officer is same as staff sergeant in the army, pls go and find out.

Solatium:


Commodore is just an equivalent of a Colonel in the Army,are you saying that Man is too young to be Colonel in the Army?
These people join the military early and rise through the rank via training,battles and what have you.
A friend of mine who joined the US Navy at a rank of Petty something has an MBA,when I saw the group picture of the commander of his unit,she is a female in her late 20's .and he told me they usually join early (16-18yrs)

Commodore is one-star general, equivalent to a Brigadier General.

Dagger111:



Heading a Unit is norms dat any officer fitted can be chosen bt in the term of appointment of Maj Gens, d DSSC are always excluding. Mention two maj gens dat reached dat peak before. I'm enjoying this with u.

Pls what's the difference between heading a unit and appointment to head a unit? Or are you saying one can head a unit without being appointed to that effect? Pls explain.

Meanwhile, this woman was the head army medical corps, I don't know if her own was not by appointment.

Meanwhile, I will call a friend tommorow and will get more than the number you requested for. I don't understand what you mean by dssc major generals are excluded when it comes to appointment. As in they are just major Generals in the army, no appointment but just there as major generals. Pls what exactly do you mean by that?

PatrickOkunima:


Commodore is one-star general, equivalent to a Brigadier General.

Why you dey give am answer na. Just leave me and him, he will put himself in a corner that he can't get out.

Just like this clown I responded to above arguing what he doesn't know. Though he claim to be in the army.

NewDelhi:

So I have some questions to ask.

Does that mean a captain combatant (ssc) is different from a captain dssc (let's say medical or accounts)
Do they both have the same power and can a dssc officer who is in the medicals or law give orders to soldiers ? I mean arranging them for one dirty operation or to deal with someone ?

Cc AntiBalaka TRIGITIS

In the military ranking plays an important role, to the first question,they're both captains but in different units. They'll both be respected by soldiers under them, they can give order to soldiers below them. The only difference is that the SSC captain might find it easier to mobilise soldiers for operations than the medical doctor. However a captain is a captain.

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Kanade21:


True, but he is more of an exception, as was Tsiga, NYSC DG in 2009

Army command posts are mostly for NDA graduates.

What of Okorie Afia NYSC DG 2012. He's also a brigadier general and I was told he joined through DSSC

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Not entirely true, there are exceptions to that rule.its depends on your connection too.
Admiral Augustus Aikhomu was a graduate ( second in command to Babangida) was a graduate if you care to know.(yabatech) before further military school studies.




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The highest rank a short service officer can attain is Colonel and this is reserved only to senior professionals without going to War College.

The highest tenure is 10yrs also.

And they are never given command positions in whatever form as they are not trained military strategists and soldiers but rather occupy only non-command positions. [/quote]

Equity15:
oga...say what you know..SSC was once COAS if not twice..yes..his name was Isah bamaiyi..my dad educates us about this all the time...y'all should say what you know

Did Isah Bamayi regularize at the NDA or not?

Cybertext:


Did Isah Bamayi regularize at the NDA or not?

he converted...exactly what that TRIGTIS guy explained to y'all...short service officers can convert to regular officers and attain the highest rank just as the past and current Nysc DG) .. although the main regular officers are always favored in terms of appointment. that should be all..thank you!

TRIGITIS:

Pls what's the difference between heading a unit and appointment to head a unit? Or are you saying one can head a unit without being appointed to that effect? Pls explain.

Meanwhile, this woman was the head army medical corps, I don't know if her own was not by appointment.

Meanwhile, I will call a friend tommorow and will get more than the number you requested for. I don't understand what you mean by dssc major generals are excluded when it comes to appointment. As in they are just major Generals in the army, no appointment but just there as major generals. Pls what exactly do you mean by that?

Have u forgotten she is the first Maj Gen in Army and she's luck cos she is a medical practioner. Mention a DSSC that made it to that peak aside her. They are normally retired at the rank of Col and Brig Gen. Some even Lt Col. Get my point, nt that they won't be given an appointment bt there is always career boundary btw a Regular and DSSC Officer.

Simply ask ur frnd this question, can a DSSC officer outshine a Regular Officer, even though the regular officer is so dull? Pls ask him. That's the way d system is designed and we are worried too.

Emyben:


That's a big lie.
They can attain Major General, Rear Admirals and it's equivalent in the airforce... The only stuff which they haven't been able to attain is service chiefs (Lt Gen, Vice Adm, etc)

I know plenty, so do not guess that I am guessing

Bro...The current Chief of Air Staff na Air Marshal and is a DRC - meaning he was a short service commissioned officer

AntiBalaka:


The highest rank a short service officer can attain is Colonel and this is reserved only to senior professionals without going to War College.

The highest tenure is 10yrs also.

And they are never given command positions in whatever form as they are not trained military strategists and soldiers but rather occupy only non-command positions.

You are totally wrong. What gives credence to your statements though , is the silent beef that exists between DRC - Direct Regular Commission - Officers (Which is what DSSC officers become after 12yrs based on the current conditions of service as signed by this government as opposed to the 10yrs it was before) and RC, Regular Commission Officers - Which is what SSC, Short Service Comission (Combatant) officers become after 7-8yrs and what the NDA graduates Officers (who gain admission into NDA with O levels) are by default.

As of now, SSC is offered by Nigerian army and so Navy and Airforce have only DSSC, DRC -senior, converted DSSC - and RC.

Of which the BMTC - Basic Military Training Course - which Regular course, NDA graduates do in their final year is done together by both Final year NDA graduates and DSSC of the Course year, so what is so spectacular about NDA grads, aside from Military Doctrine and 3 and half years of psychological brain washing......

But I will agree with you in only one point - which you didn't state, clearly and properly - and that is the fact that the Nigerian army only, typically doesn't like to make DSSC/DRC Military Commanders (brigade, or divisions). They can make you a Commandant and have you serve under a commander. But this has nothing to do with competence, because there are DRC graduates who are much more competent in that regard.

I know of some DRC officers inside Army Infantry Corps and Airforce Air crew that are groomed and they are grooming to be crack, packard and gallant Strategists in warfare and Counter-terrorism/insurgency/intelligence, so no be competence or baggage.

Its simply based on beef and the fact that RC officers in particular NDA graduates like to keep such appointments for themselves, especially for the ones loyal to them because of security votes accrued to Commanders and commandants. It is deemed to be juicy and so they keep such for those they prefer from the RC officers.

Just Imagine you are doing your birthday as a Director of Education under one division and all the commandants under your supervision are loyal, you no go too need to even touch your salary sef oooo.....

Besides, the vacancies in comparison to the competent, available officers are always limited, so other factors, whey them born me well to mention also apply.

But even that sef, is changing slowly.

As for how far a DSSC/DRC can go, you are totally wrong. That was true many, many years ago. That has changed since, There are too many people close to me, people in the public eye, that have debunked this statement. Even my aunt sef, retired as a Brigadier General. Of which the Current Chief of Air staff na DSSC/DRC officer (political though) but it makes your insistence on your point look totally uninformed.

Not only that, in those days, it was only fighter pilot they reserve Chief of Air staff but alas the Current Chief of Air Staff is not a fighter pilot and he is the second Air Marshal to break that Jinx....

Anybody for Navy and Airforce dey collect commander and Anyone in the army can command combatant units, the army just prefers to appoint NDA graduates, Regular Commission as Commanders datz all.....

Of which Conversion or Regularisation from DSSC to DRC na just to fill form, that's all. Its SSC that have to undergo some physical rigour to convert.....

Modified:
N.B:- The Irony of the reality of the matter is this. In the Army DSSC/DRC are more likely to get appointments than to be made commanders, in the Airforce DSSC/DRC more likely to be made commanders than receive appointment why?

Because in the airforce, Appointment is perceived to be better than rank(This slogan is said in all armed forces but it is followed with religious zeal in the airforce, that is why you will see even Sergeant for airforce with Phd). You may be feeling like one badt commander for one corner for airforce, but one rat whey get appointment for PMG can be frustrating your promotion or one badt guy for AOC office can lock your budget inside one cupboard somewhere and be frustrating you upandan.

If you like be GOC of heavenly division, when Recruitment for officers start for army, if them no born you well call COAS, na to humble yourself beg Military Secretary, otherwise as far as shortlisting is concerned your candidate is going nowhere......

When you have an appointment, everyone wants to do you a favour, so that they can draw on that later.......you never can tell when/where and from whom you may need help in the future

AntiBalaka:


Can a non NDA officer hold command position?

Stop spewing trash!

That's why Nigeria is not developing, 3rd rate minds like yours hold sway, your direct short service and short service commission all go to NDA though for months for purely military training and since the advent of civilian rule from obj the ceiling on them have been removed , they now go beyond the rank of colonels , one of my best friends is a brigadier general and he is a dss officer .