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Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 11:17pm On Oct 29, 2019
ATHEIST RICHARD DAWKINS: GETTING RID OF GOD WOULD MAKE WORLD LESS MORAL

10-29-2019
Will Maule, Faithwire

Richard Dawkins, perhaps the world’s most famous atheist, has admitted that eliminating God from the public consciousness would pose huge problems.


Speaking to British paper The Times, Dawkins insisted that if religion were to be abolished, it would “give people a license to do really bad things.”

Expanding on his point, the Oxford University fellow said that, without the presence of a higher being, “people may feel free to do bad things because they feel God is no longer watching them.”

Reverting to his sharp rhetoric on religion, Dawkins warned that people would feel entitled to do what they like because they no longer need to obey a “divine spy camera in the sky reading their every thought,” — a description he often uses for an omnipresent God.

Dawkins revealed an experiment he came across working on his latest book, “Outgrowing God,” which intended on finding out whether people would be “good” if they felt someone was watching. The experiment, carried out by professor Melissa Bateson at the University of Newcastle, entailed the setting up of a coffee station and “honesty box” system for payments — people simply put in what they felt was the appropriate amount for their drink of choice.


However, at different points, Bateson changed the display overlooking the coffee bar, switching between a flowery image and an ominous pair of eyes.

When the eyes were watching, “nearly three times as much for their drinks when eyes were displayed,” Dawkins explained, concluding that “whether irrational or not, it does, unfortunately, seem plausible that, if somebody sincerely believes God is watching his every move, he might be more likely to be good.”

“I must say I hate that idea,” added the lifelong anti-God campaigner. “I want to believe that humans are better than that. I’d like to believe I’m honest whether anyone is watching or not.”

Responding to the Professor’s remarks, controversial creationist leader ,Ken Ham, whom Dawkins has tussled with on several occasions, commented that “Dawkins has spent his life fighting against God (the God he doesn’t believe even exists), but still recognizes that atheism (the worldview religion of Richard Dawkins) doesn’t provide the foundation for morality.”

“Without a biblical foundation, anything goes,” Ham added. “Who is to say what is right or wrong? There is no ultimate foundation. It becomes arbitrary; everyone does what’s right in their own eyes. In fact, Dawkins is admitting that atheism is totally bankrupt morally.”

https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/october/atheist-richard-dawkins-getting-rid-of-god-would-make-world-less-moral?amp

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ending-religion-is-a-bad-idea-says-richard-dawkins-sqqdbmcpq#

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by budaatum: 11:27pm On Oct 29, 2019
Funny that atheist Dawkins is writing to the Corinthians, though many will see it not.

Basicly, people do good because they are afraid of going to hell, when they grow up however, they will do good because good just pays more.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by idesylvester(m): 11:34pm On Oct 29, 2019
I have never seen any reason not to acknowledge that God actually exists and nothing can ever make me stop that belief even if my maker doesn't answer me


Every car has it maker...

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 11:38pm On Oct 29, 2019
After passionately denying this glaring truth as most atheists do for God-knows how long, the "world most famous" atheist has finally admited the painful truth, that the world be a worse place without the fear of God.

Much respect to him for doing so, because I can only imagine how hard it would have been for him to have chew and swallow his own words.

So it wouldn't surprise me to hear next that he now also has that fear of God in him.

God bless.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 11:48pm On Oct 29, 2019
jesusjnr:
After passionately denying this glaring truth as most atheists do, it's a credit to arguably the "world most famous" atheist for finally admitting this painful truth, that the world be a worse place without the fear of God.

God bless.
Most Atheists don't realise that even though they disbelieve in God, they still carry a relic of morality inherited from their religious antisident and ancestry.

Why should adultery be wrong?
Why should nudity be an offence?
Why should bestiality be immoral?

Even though daily, these rules are being bent and broken; it's just a taste of what full Atheism would be like.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by MrBrownJay1(m): 11:59pm On Oct 29, 2019
ARRANT GIBBERISH NONSENSE!!!

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 12:07am On Oct 30, 2019
shadeyinka:

Most Atheists don't realise that even though they disbelieve in God, they still carry a relic of morality inherited from their religious antisident and ancestry.

Why should adultery be wrong?
Why should nudity be an offence?
Why should bestiality be immoral?

Even though daily, these rules are being bent and broken; it's just a taste of what full Atheism would be like.
True bro.

Truth is, why most atheists deny such glaring truths, is not because they truly believe it's false, but because of their anti-God sentiments and how detrimental that truth would be to the arguments being made for atheism.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by budaatum: 12:22am On Oct 30, 2019
It is so true that one just needs empathy and not religion to have morals.

Hear Jesus teaching empathy:

[url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+22%3A39&version=NIV]‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'[/url]

Since many have not yet learned this lesson, we seem to still need religion to teach us to have empathy after all.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Edybleketara: 2:17am On Oct 30, 2019
The laws of the land and the punishments associated with breaking them is basically what is keeping humans in check.
Take away these laws and punishments then leave only religion as the basis for doing what is right and see if society won't plummet into a state of chaos.
Take away our security system and watch the amount of crimes that will be perpetrated on a daily basis. without our security system, even your so called pastors will visit you at night to rob you.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by budaatum: 2:50am On Oct 30, 2019
Edybleketara:
The laws of the land and the punishments associated with breaking them is basically what is keeping humans in check.
Take away these laws and punishments then leave only religion as the basis for doing what is right and see if society won't plummet into a state of chaos.
Take away our security system and watch the amount of crimes that will be perpetrated on a daily basis. without our security system, even your so called pastors will visit you at night to rob you.
In fact, the fact that fear of hell does not work so well is what made us evolve laws and replace priests with police and hell with prison. But it did all evolve out of religion, one must admit, as we knew no better at the time.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Lasveg(m): 3:54am On Oct 30, 2019
Edybleketara:
The laws of the land and the punishments associated with breaking them is basically what is keeping humans in check.
Take away these laws and punishments then leave only religion as the basis for doing what is right and see if society won't plummet into a state of chaos.
Take away our security system and watch the amount of crimes that will be perpetrated on a daily basis. without our security system, even your so called pastors will visit you at night to rob you.
don't mind these Christians, they are suffering from delusion. if our security system is suspended for a day, the whole banks in naija will be robbed that day.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 4:42am On Oct 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
True bro.

Truth is, why most atheists deny such glaring truths, is not because they truly believe it's false, but because of their anti-God sentiments and how detrimental that truth would be to the arguments being made for atheism.
Perfectly said bro!
Just recently, a court case is on in USA to determine if a mom can allow her 7 year old son to begin gender reassignment chemical therapy to convert him into a girl against the boys father's wish. You just wonder the kind of things that would be allowed when "God is fully kicked out" by Atheists.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by budaatum: 5:21am On Oct 30, 2019
shadeyinka:

Perfectly said bro!
Just recently, a court case is on in USA to determine if a mom can allow her 7 year old son to begin gender reassignment chemical therapy to convert him into a girl against the boys father's wish. You just wonder the kind of things that would be allowed when "God is fully kicked out" by Atheists.
Except neither parent was an atheist as you'd easily find by a simple search!

The parents were members of an Orthodox church, who named their children after Biblical reference, the newspaper reported.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 5:46am On Oct 30, 2019
Lasveg:
don't mind these Christians, they are suffering from delusion. if our security system is suspended for a day, the whole banks in naija will be robbed that day.
Lol!

"World most famous" atheist Richard Dawkins is now a Christian who suffers from delusion because he spoke the truth.

That should tell you who's really deluded between y'all atheists and the christians.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 6:37am On Oct 30, 2019
shadeyinka:

Perfectly said bro!
Just recently, a court case is on in USA to determine if a mom can allow her 7 year old son to begin gender reassignment chemical therapy to convert him into a girl against the boys father's wish. You just wonder the kind of things that would be allowed when "God is fully kicked out" by Atheists.
You can see them here still trying to deny the glaring truth (inclusive of one who poses here as a Christian), as though there's anything they could possibly say here, that "world most atheist" Richard Dawkins hadn't said before.

That's why I applaud him for having the balls to yet come out and admit that much, even though it goes against his atheistic beliefs and sentiments.

God bless.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by CaveAdullam: 8:56am On Oct 30, 2019
Edybleketara:
The laws of the land and the punishments associated with breaking them is basically what is keeping humans in check.
Oga wait first, Dawkins knew about the security system, but after many years, the most famous atheist in the world who has lived most part of his life in a country with tight security system came out to say GETTING RID OF GOD WOULD MAKE THE WORLD LESS MORAL. ARE YOU MORE ATHEISTIC THAN RICHARD DAWKINS?

What keeps humans in order is not only security system per se, but the little fibres of God consciousness embedded in them. Because not all understand the security system, not all are favoured by the security system and many are ten times smarter than the security system.

In many cases, people decide to leave serious issues in the court of God because He is the perfect law giver that makes justice a reality and not the bias security system, who want you to spend more time, money and energy just to see that a case is being prosecuted.

Edybleketara:
Take away these laws and punishments then leave only religion as the basis for doing what is right and see if society won't plummet into a state of chaos.
Religion has its own laws and punishments, and as a result of that the society won't plummet into an eternal state of chaos.

By the way according to religion there is a day coming when all evil will be judged and will forever be eradicated for good. Richard Dawkins is not far from this truth.

Please, calm down and wait for that day.

Edybleketara:
Take away our security system and watch the amount of crimes that will be perpetrated on a daily basis. without our security system, even your so called pastors will visit you at night to rob you.
As if the so called security systems are holy.

The security system draw their laws of right and wrong and punishment from the God Richard Dawkins is talking about. Although they are not totally holy, but God still grant them grace to be able to carryout their duties. This takes us back to words of Richard Dawkins, getting rid of God would make world less moral.

Thanks.

God bless.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by CaveAdullam: 9:00am On Oct 30, 2019
Lasveg:
don't mind these Christians, they are suffering from delusion. if our security system is suspended for a day, the whole banks in naija will be robbed that day.
Imaginative delusion.

What do you think the people that got money in the bank will do if our security system should be suspended for a day?
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by hopefulLandlord: 9:23am On Oct 30, 2019
CaveAdullam:
ARE YOU MORE ATHEISTIC THAN RICHARD DAWKINS?


FYI Dawkins who formulated the "Dawkins scale" which ranges from 1-7 says he's 6 on the scale

since there are atheists who identify as 7 it means there are many atheists who are more atheistic than Dawkins.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by CaveAdullam: 9:38am On Oct 30, 2019
hopefulLandlord:


FYI Dawkins who formulated the "Dawkins scale" which ranges from 1-7 says he's 6 on the scale

since there are atheists who identify as 7 it means there are many atheists who are more atheistic than Dawkins.
Whether on scale 8 or 9, it does not change the fact that the fibres of God consciousness is embedded in every humans that will always make them to know right from wrong.

Thanks.

God bless.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by hopefulLandlord: 9:42am On Oct 30, 2019
CaveAdullam:
Whether on scale 8 or 9, it does not change the fact that the fibres of God consciousness is embedded in every humans that will always make them to know right from wrong.

Thanks.

God bless.
No! and I'm willing to debate this if you're game

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 9:49am On Oct 30, 2019
hopefulLandlord:


FYI Dawkins who formulated the "Dawkins scale" which ranges from 1-7 says he's 6 on the scale

since there are atheists who identify as 7 it means there are many atheists who are more atheistic than Dawkins.
Since it was Richard Dawkins the world most famous atheist who invented the scale, that should tell you that such a strong atheist could only exist on his scale but not in reality.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 9:54am On Oct 30, 2019
budaatum:

Except neither parent was an atheist as you'd easily find by a simple search!

I didn't intend to stereotype the mum of the boy as Christian or Atheist. I am particular about the Atheist Agenda (of saying nothing is a sin). When standards of right/wrong evolve not from God, anything can go as OK!

For instance, the same argument that go for homosexuality goes for bestiality however, we've not gotten yet to the level of the later as acceptable.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 9:55am On Oct 30, 2019
budaatum:

Except neither parent was an atheist as you'd easily find by a simple search!

The fact that people still identify with some churches does not invalidate the fact that we live in a progressively godless society.

I didn't intend to stereotype the mum of the boy as Christian or Atheist. I am particular about the Atheist Agenda (of saying nothing is a sin). When standards of right/wrong evolve not from God, anything can go as OK!

For instance, the same argument that go for homosexuality goes for bestiality however, we've not gotten yet to the level of the later as acceptable.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 9:58am On Oct 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
True bro.

Truth is, why most atheists deny such glaring truths, is not because they truly believe it's false, but because of their anti-God sentiments and how detrimental that truth would be to the arguments being made for atheism.
Even children test the limit of their parents laws how much more people who have deliberately adopted any other option apart from God.

It's a sentiment that is cancerous and self destructive at the end.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by hopefulLandlord: 10:50am On Oct 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
Since it was Richard Dawkins the world most famous atheist who invented the scale, that should tell you that such a strong atheist could only exist on his scale but not in reality.

Fame has next to nothing to do with how strong one's atheism is just like you'd agree that some popular Christian doesn't mean he/she is the strongest
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 11:13am On Oct 30, 2019
hopefulLandlord:


Fame has next to nothing to do with how strong one's atheism is just like you'd agree that some popular Christian doesn't mean he/she is the strongest
Of course you're right about the fame part, but the reason for emphasis of his own fame lies in the my understanding that atheism is the basis of it.

Or is there anything else he's famous for?

So if the strong case he's made for atheism, made him so famous, up to the extent that he became arguably the most famous atheist and inspired many to become atheists, what are the chances that there truly exists the number 7s on a scale he invented himself, if in reality, he's number 6 on that scale?
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by hopefulLandlord: 11:29am On Oct 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
Of course you're right about the fame part, but the reason for emphasis of his own fame lies in the my understanding that atheism is the basis of it.

Or is there anything else he's famous for?

So if the strong case he's made for atheism, made him so famous, up to the extent that he became arguably the most famous atheist and inspired many to become atheists, what are the chances that there truly exists the number 7s on a scale he invented himself, if in reality, he's number 6 on that scale?

Your argument would've been valid if the scale was a scale of how much of Dawkins you are but it's not. it's a scale of belief and disbelief. he is of the opinion that there are atheists who's atheism is stronger than his
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 11:38am On Oct 30, 2019
hopefulLandlord:


Your argument would've been valid if the scale was a scale of how much of Dawkins you are but it's not. it's a scale of belief and disbelief. he is of the opinion that there are atheists who's atheism is stronger than his
Well, I know it's a scale of belief and disbelief, but the point I'm trying to make you realize is that Richard Dawkins is number 7 on the scale he invented, for you wouldn't have expected him to put himself on the top of his own scale, would you?

What would that suggest of him or his scale, making his own scale all about himself?

That's what I think though.

Thanks.
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by shadeyinka(m): 12:10pm On Oct 30, 2019
Edybleketara:
The laws of the land and the punishments associated with breaking them is basically what is keeping humans in check.
Take away these laws and punishments then leave only religion as the basis for doing what is right and see if society won't plummet into a state of chaos.
Take away our security system and watch the amount of crimes that will be perpetrated on a daily basis. without our security system, even your so called pastors will visit you at night to rob you.
Even though humans know that we can never get to a level of maturity where we wouldn't need Law enforcement they believe that you don't need any divine law and consequences for good or bad actions done by us.

This is contradictory!
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Lasveg(m): 1:25pm On Oct 30, 2019
jesusjnr:
Lol!

"World most famous" atheist Richard Dawkins is now a Christian who suffers from delusion because he spoke the truth.

That should tell you who's really deluded between y'all atheists and the christians.
so because someone is famous means whatever he says is true. pepper soup logic.

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Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Lasveg(m): 1:26pm On Oct 30, 2019
CaveAdullam:
Imaginative delusion.

What do you think the people that got money in the bank will do if our security system should be suspended for a day?
what do you think they would do?
Re: Atheist Richard Dawkins: Getting Rid Of God Would Make World Less Moral by Nobody: 3:02pm On Oct 30, 2019
Lasveg:
so because someone is famous means whatever he says is true. pepper soup logic.
Lol!

You have already forgotten that the famous someone is an "atheist"!

So when it comes to any suggestion or idea which favor the argument for theism, you'd even abandon your brain and start thinking through your anus.

You completely ignored the aspect of the experiment he came across which also helped informed his position.

Therefore although he's also an atheist, with this admission, something he's proven, is that he's not as deluded as you are.

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