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Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 7:28pm On Nov 03, 2019
Bible Question: There is a scripture that says that God made us a little lower than the angels. There is another scripture that states that when we die, we are equal to the angels. There is another scripture that implies we are higher than the angels because God made us in His image. Are we equal, lower, or higher than the angels? Bible Answer: Scripture reveals that humans are made lower than the angels when the book of Hebrews says that Jesus Christ, who became a man, was made lower than the angels. YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS . . . Hebrews 2:7 (NASB) In the first chapter of Hebrews, we are told that Jesus was above the angels since He was and is God. But Hebrews 2:7-9 explains that when Jesus became a man, He was made lower than the angels in the sense that He took on human flesh. He was still God. He was God in human flesh. He was temporarily lower than the angels because He took on human form. Therefore, Hebrews 2:7-9 implies that humans are made lower than the angels. It is important to note that scripture never says that we are equal to the angels. Scripture only reveals that we are lower than the angels while we live here on this earth. Yet, those who go to heaven will some day judge angels. Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB) Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the ages will judge the angels. This will occur not while we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a future event that will occur during the millennial kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that Christians will judge angels, they will be greater than angels. Conclusion: Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches that Christians are superior to angels because the verse teaches that the holy angels minister to Christians have missed two important points. 1) The passage never says Christians are superior to angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are greatest are those who serve others (Matthew 20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that Christians will have a higher rank than angels in the millennial kingdom because they will judge angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank does not mean that Christians will be superior in capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will Christians be greater than angels in the future

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by idesylvester(m): 7:37pm On Nov 03, 2019
The thing dey confuse me.

See even God know say human beings no fit dey perfect n that's d only reason why one can be measured with Angel's level. Aside from Jesus christ who had no sin, who else my brother?

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 7:47pm On Nov 03, 2019
Conclusion: Scripture teaches that angels are superior to every human on the planet (Hebrews 2:6-9). In the millennial kingdom angels will be judged by Christians, but that does not mean angels will be inferior to Christians in power and capability. In heaven Christians will be superior in rank since they are adopted into the family God.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Goldencheese(m): 7:59pm On Nov 03, 2019
This is no brainer bro, in the hierarchy of spiritual beings whether we are in the flesh or not, it is God, man, angels and demons in that order. Lower or not lower. Being made in God's image alone whereby we know right from wrong and can create makes us higher than the angels.

They cannot worship us because worship is a singular right of God but they obey us and do our biddings.

Man is higher than the highest of the angels. It is a mystery that only God can explain because God's love for man is what the angels, demons and humankind does not understand.

Why does God love sinful me?


drezzyx:
Bible Question:
There is a scripture that says that God made us a
little lower than the angels. There is another
scripture that states that when we die, we are
equal to the angels. There is another scripture that
implies we are higher than the angels because God
made us in His image. Are we equal, lower, or
higher than the angels?
Bible Answer:
Scripture reveals that humans are made lower than
the angels when the book of Hebrews says that
Jesus Christ, who became a man, was made lower
than the angels.
YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE
WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;
YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH
GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE
APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS
OF YOUR HANDS . . . Hebrews
2:7 (NASB)
In the first chapter of Hebrews, we are told that
Jesus was above the angels since He was and is
God. But Hebrews 2:7-9 explains that when Jesus
became a man, He was made lower than the
angels in the sense that He took on human flesh.
He was still God. He was God in human flesh. He
was temporarily lower than the angels because He
took on human form. Therefore, Hebrews 2:7-9
implies that humans are made lower than the
angels.
It is important to note that scripture never says
that we are equal to the angels. Scripture only
reveals that we are lower than the angels while we
live here on this earth. Yet, those who go to
heaven will some day judge angels.
Do you not know that we will judge
angels? How much more matters of
this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB)
Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and
follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the
ages will judge the angels. This will occur not while
we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only
after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a
future event that will occur during the millennial
kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and
reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that
Christians will judge angels, they will be greater
than angels.
Conclusion:
Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches
that Christians are superior to angels because the
verse teaches that the holy angels minister to
Christians have missed two important points. 1)
The passage never says Christians are superior to
angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are
greatest are those who serve others (Matthew
20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater
than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that
Christians will have a higher rank than angels in
the millennial kingdom because they will judge
angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank
does not mean that Christians will be superior in
capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will
Christians be greater than angels in the future

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Blakjewelry(m): 8:09pm On Nov 03, 2019
i guess na the same question wey make Lucifer vex you ask so

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 9:26pm On Nov 03, 2019
That is y we human can never comprehend God's mysteries. Therefore making people say God do not exists. Even not all Angel sees God face.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Nobody: 9:32pm On Nov 03, 2019
Goldencheese:
This is no brainer bro, in the hierarchy of spiritual beings whether we are in the flesh or not, it is God, man, angels and demons in that order. Lower or not lower. Being made in God's image alone whereby we know right from wrong and can create makes us higher than the angels.

They cannot worship us because worship is a singular right of God but they obey us and do our biddings.

Man is higher than the highest of the angels. It is a mystery that only God can explain because God's love for man is what the angels, demons and humankind does not understand.

Why does God love sinful me?


This is wrong and unbiblical
man is created in the image of God does not mean man is higher than the angels infact man is a little lower than the angels.

Psalms 8:5
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.

The first order of creation was God, angels, man and the animals take note that demons or devils are angels too but they have fallen from God as a result of their rebellion

but in the new creation which is in Christ, the order changes to God, man, angels.
Christians are a little lower than the angels because of the flesh but are higher because of the authority of Christ given to them which angels do not have but when The Christian is glorified just as christ was glorified then he surpases the angels but only less than God.

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Nobody: 9:37pm On Nov 03, 2019
man is a little lower than the angels is only applicable to the unfallen man, that is to
1 Adam when he had not fallen
2. Christ when he took upon himself the human nature
3. To the believer because he has been born of God ( born again) and has the authority of Christ which is the highest power and authority both in heaven, on earth and even under the earth.

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 9:43pm On Nov 03, 2019
Goldencheese:
This is no brainer bro, in the hierarchy of spiritual beings whether we are in the flesh or not, it is God, man, angels and demons in that order. Lower or not lower. Being made in God's image alone whereby we know right from wrong and can create makes us higher than the angels.

They cannot worship us because worship is a singular right of God but they obey us and do our biddings.

Man is higher than the highest of the angels. It is a mystery that only God can explain because God's love for man is what the angels, demons and humankind does not understand.

Why does God love sinful me?


Are angels not created in the image of God too?
I guessed it is not only man.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by MuttleyLaff: 9:46pm On Nov 03, 2019
drezzyx:
Bible Question: There is a scripture that says that God made us a little lower than the angels. There is another scripture that states that when we die, we are equal to the angels. There is another scripture that implies we are higher than the angels because God made us in His image. Are we equal, lower, or higher than the angels? Bible Answer: Scripture reveals that humans are made lower than the angels when the book of Hebrews says that Jesus Christ, who became a man, was made lower than the angels. YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS . . . Hebrews 2:7 (NASB) In the first chapter of Hebrews, we are told that Jesus was above the angels since He was and is God. But Hebrews 2:7-9 explains that when Jesus became a man, He was made lower than the angels in the sense that He took on human flesh. He was still God. He was God in human flesh. He was temporarily lower than the angels because He took on human form. Therefore, Hebrews 2:7-9 implies that humans are made lower than the angels. It is important to note that scripture never says that we are equal to the angels. Scripture only reveals that we are lower than the angels while we live here on this earth. Yet, those who go to heaven will some day judge angels. Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB) Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the ages will judge the angels. This will occur not while we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a future event that will occur during the millennial kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that Christians will judge angels, they will be greater than angels. Conclusion: Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches that Christians are superior to angels because the verse teaches that the holy angels minister to Christians have missed two important points. 1) The passage never says Christians are superior to angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are greatest are those who serve others (Matthew 20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that Christians will have a higher rank than angels in the millennial kingdom because they will judge angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank does not mean that Christians will be superior in capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will Christians be greater than angels in the future
You towards the end of your post have answered the thread's subject question
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 9:52pm On Nov 03, 2019
solite3:
man is a little lower than the angels is only applicable to the unfallen man, that is to
1 Adam when he had not fallen
2. Christ when he took upon himself the human nature
3. To the believer because he has been born of God ( born again) and has the authority of Christ which is the highest power and authority both in heaven, on earth and even under the earth.
I know we are lower because d powers these Angel possesses can not be compared to man, even when u have conversations with ordinary Angel through visions u will find out u are emotionally ,physically and spiritually drained of your energy.
How much more angels of higher ranks
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 9:54pm On Nov 03, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
You towards the end of your post have answered the thread's subject question
I don't think so...
Really but I still need more opinion
That one is another question entirely I mean the last statement
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by MuttleyLaff: 10:20pm On Nov 03, 2019
drezzyx:
I don't think so...
Really but I still need more opinion
That one is another question entirely I mean the last statement

drezzyx:
In the sense that Christians will judge angels, they will be greater than angels.
Conclusion: Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches that Christians are superior to angels because the verse teaches that the holy angels minister to Christians have missed two important points.
1) The passage never says Christians are superior to angels and
2) Scripture teaches that those who are greatest are those who serve others (Matthew 20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that Christians will have a higher rank than angels in the millennial kingdom because they will judge angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank does not mean that Christians will be superior in capability.

The reader is encouraged to visit “Will Christians be greater than angels in the future[/size]
You did.

You can have opinions or more opinions, but just know that, opinions are formed out of ignorances and that opinions always are affected by facts. because opinion in the face of facts, will always change.

You're cornered in a dead alley, with a lion between you and your escape route, who is higher between the lion and you, hmm? lol.
Of course, in spite of the circumstance, you're higher and greater than the stronger lion. lol.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by budaatum: 3:07am On Nov 04, 2019
Goldencheese:
This is no brainer bro, in the hierarchy of spiritual beings whether we are in the flesh or not, it is God, man, angels and demons in that order. Lower or not lower. Being made in God's image alone whereby we know right from wrong and can create makes us higher than the angels.

They cannot worship us because worship is a singular right of God but they obey us and do our biddings.

Man is higher than the highest of the angels. It is a mystery that only God can explain because God's love for man is what the angels, demons and humankind does not understand.

Why does God love sinful me?
Because your Bible tells you so!

Ask them how can ordinary errand boy be greater than the Imaged Child of God?

10 likes for you!

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Goldencheese(m): 4:29am On Nov 04, 2019
drezzyx:
Are angels not created in the image of God too?
I guessed it is not only man.

No, they are not. When Jesus was coming to the world, He didn't take up the nature or looks of angels but the nature and looks of man and these mirror the invisible God.

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 6:13am On Nov 04, 2019
Goldencheese:


No, they are not. When Jesus was coming to the world, He didn't take up the nature or looks of angels but the nature and looks of man and these mirror the invisible God.
Really.
What about this
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness; let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and
over the cattle, over all the earth and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Gen 1:26
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Nobody: 6:38am On Nov 04, 2019
The idea that christians are higher than the angels, is only a figment of the imagination of christians.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by orisa37: 7:28am On Nov 04, 2019
drezzyx:
Bible Question: There is a scripture that says that God made us a little lower than the angels. There is another scripture that states that when we die, we are equal to the angels. There is another scripture that implies we are higher than the angels because God made us in His image. Are we equal, lower, or higher than the angels? Bible Answer: Scripture reveals that humans are made lower than the angels when the book of Hebrews says that Jesus Christ, who became a man, was made lower than the angels. YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS . . . Hebrews 2:7 (NASB) In the first chapter of Hebrews, we are told that Jesus was above the angels since He was and is God. But Hebrews 2:7-9 explains that when Jesus became a man, He was made lower than the angels in the sense that He took on human flesh. He was still God. He was God in human flesh. He was temporarily lower than the angels because He took on human form. Therefore, Hebrews 2:7-9 implies that humans are made lower than the angels. It is important to note that scripture never says that we are equal to the angels. Scripture only reveals that we are lower than the angels while we live here on this earth. Yet, those who go to heaven will some day judge angels. Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB) Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the ages will judge the angels. This will occur not while we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a future event that will occur during the millennial kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that Christians will judge angels, they will be greater than angels. Conclusion: Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches that Christians are superior to angels because the verse teaches that the holy angels minister to Christians have missed two important points. 1) The passage never says Christians are superior to angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are greatest are those who serve others (Matthew 20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that Christians will have a higher rank than angels in the millennial kingdom because they will judge angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank does not mean that Christians will be superior in capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will Christians be greater than angels in the future


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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Goldencheese(m): 7:54am On Nov 04, 2019
See, @drezzx, I love your zeal and I like your disposition to search the truth. But I am not on this forum as a purveyor of religious truth or defender. I am here as a credible member to add value to the businesses of Nigerians through credible business and management solutions. And they don't have to believe in God or in my faith because there is beauty in humanity even in the atheist or satanist. I love humanity crazily.

If you want us to discuss our faith, DM me, I will send you my email address and we discuss. Faith should actually be a private practice.

Thank you and have a pleasant day.

drezzyx:
Really.
What about this
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image,
according to Our likeness; let them have dominion
over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and
over the cattle, over all the earth and over every
creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Gen 1:26

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 9:57am On Nov 04, 2019
Goldencheese:
See, @drezzx, I love your zeal and I like your disposition to search the truth. But I am not on this forum as a purveyor of religious truth or defender. I am here as a credible member to add value to the businesses of Nigerians through credible business and management solutions. And they don't have to believe in God or in my faith because there is beauty in humanity even in the atheist or satanist. I love humanity crazily.

If you want us to discuss our faith, DM me, I will send you my email address and we discuss. Faith should actually be a private practice.

Thank you and have a pleasant day.

Thanks for your contribution.
Have a wonderful day.

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 10:01am On Nov 04, 2019
jesusjnr:
The idea that christians are higher than the angels, is only a figment of the imagination of christians.
Hmmm..
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Judeudochukwu(m): 10:25am On Nov 04, 2019
Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi.
Kill her, the pastor said.
Let her die and leave.
I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask?
Can you kill a spirit?
Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet?
Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free.
As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm.
Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit
As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane.
Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man.
After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel?
Answer!
What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you?
Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her.
No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do?
Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes?
Of course you will!
If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.

This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings.
They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings.
They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom.
Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver.
For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being.
The image of the gods.
Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests.
Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind.
Why people suffer today!
They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all.
Wisdom shall judge them!
So what is the remedy?
this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life.
Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done.
It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice!
We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke.
During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back.
We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation.
When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri).
Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good.
If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation.
This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver.
Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today!
Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.

: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity.
Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care.
This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits.
The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.

If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty.
One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life.
Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil.
If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters.
The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners.
It’s divine
It’s a nature mandate!
It’s written and can’t be changed.
You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it.
Who are you to judge?
Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant?
Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be?
How many years do you have to exist here on earth?
How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born?
Is it why you are here?
All these are meant for pastors to answer.
People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny.
Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table.
Judgement await us all!
Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them).
Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today.
Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite.
Don’t be deceived!
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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Judeudochukwu(m): 10:27am On Nov 04, 2019
WHY DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL HUSBAND OR WIFE :the truth none has told you

Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi.
Kill her, the pastor said.
Let her die and leave.
I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask?
Can you kill a spirit?
Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet?
Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free.
As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm.
Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit
As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane.
Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man.
After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel?
Answer!
What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you?
Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her.
No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do?
Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes?
Of course you will!
If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.

This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings.
They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings.
They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom.
Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver.
For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being.
The image of the gods.
Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests.
Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind.
Why people suffer today!
They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all.
Wisdom shall judge them!
So what is the remedy?
this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life.
Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done.
It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice!
We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke.
During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back.
We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation.
When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri).
Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good.
If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation.
This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver.
Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today!
Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.

: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity.
Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care.
This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits.
The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.

If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty.
One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life.
Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil.
If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters.
The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners.
It’s divine
It’s a nature mandate!
It’s written and can’t be changed.
You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it.
Who are you to judge?
Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant?
Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be?
How many years do you have to exist here on earth?
How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born?
Is it why you are here?
All these are meant for pastors to answer.
People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny.
Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table.
Judgement await us all!
Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them).
Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today.
Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite.
Don’t be deceived!
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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by kkins25(m): 12:09pm On Nov 04, 2019
christians ehhn, they never seize to amaze me.
you haven't finish battling the small small nephilims that were left here after the flood. it is this animalistic nephilims they refer to as demons and look at how this creatures have tormented humanity.

the real mojo demons(defunct angels) have been locked up since day one. To even escalate issues they are now struggling with angels for heavenly ranks. lol. imagine the kind of wrath that would have been unleashed if this real demons(formerly angels) escape that their prison.hmm. christians go hear am.


another thing peculiar to Christians is their multiple point of view. if people like muttleylaff would have been considered anathema during the time of st. augustine and co., muttley you would have been burned at the stake and probably ended up in hell were you will see arius and his comrades not excluding jesusjnr.

you see, back in the days i used to wonder what angels are doing in heaven, do they tidy gardens, are there engineers, warriors, etc? books that attempt to unravel the mysteries of the angelic realm are like cocaine to me. so please op keep sheding more light on which race God would choose to i dont know inherit grace abi weytin self?
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 04, 2019
kkins25:
christians ehhn, they never seize to amaze me.
you haven't finish battling the small small nephilims that were left here after the flood. it is this animalistic nephilims they refer to as demons and look at how this creatures have tormented humanity.

the real mojo demons(defunct angels) have been locked up since day one. To even escalate issues they are now struggling with angels for heavenly ranks. lol. imagine the kind of wrath that would have been unleashed if this real demons(formerly angels) escape that their prison.hmm. christians go hear am.


another thing peculiar to Christians is their multiple point of view. if people like muttleylaff would have been considered anathema during the time of st. augustine and co., muttley you would have been burned at the stake and probably ended up in hell were you will see arius and his comrades not excluding jesusjnr.

you see, back in the days i used to wonder what angels are doing in heaven, do they tidy gardens, are there engineers, warriors, etc? books that attempt to unravel the mysteries of the angelic realm are like cocaine to me. so please op keep sheding more light on which race God would choose to i dont know inherit grace abi weytin self?
Yeah!

Coming from one of the atheists who just have a single point of view.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by kkins25(m): 12:36pm On Nov 04, 2019
jesusjnr:
Yeah!

Coming from one of the atheists who just have a single point of view.
who says i am aethist ehn.. ? jesus ahkbar!
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 1:00pm On Nov 04, 2019
kkins25:
christians ehhn, they never seize to amaze me.
you haven't finish battling the small small nephilims that were left here after the flood. it is this animalistic nephilims they refer to as demons and look at how this creatures have tormented humanity.

the real mojo demons(defunct angels) have been locked up since day one. To even escalate issues they are now struggling with angels for heavenly ranks. lol. imagine the kind of wrath that would have been unleashed if this real demons(formerly angels) escape that their prison.hmm. christians go hear am.


another thing peculiar to Christians is their multiple point of view. if people like muttleylaff would have been considered anathema during the time of st. augustine and co., muttley you would have been burned at the stake and probably ended up in hell were you will see arius and his comrades not excluding jesusjnr.

you see, back in the days i used to wonder what angels are doing in heaven, do they tidy gardens, are there engineers, warriors, etc? books that attempt to unravel the mysteries of the angelic realm are like cocaine to me. so please op keep sheding more light on which race God would choose to i dont know inherit grace abi weytin self?
Thanks for the encouragement.Ur texts looks like someone annoyed.

I will keep posting new findings.

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Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by drezzyx(m): 1:07pm On Nov 04, 2019
Judeudochukwu:
WHY DO YOU HAVE A SPIRITUAL HUSBAND OR WIFE :the truth none has told you

Some people while in a prayer houses will be informed they are been disturbed by a spiritual wife or husband. Haven heard about it, he and the pastor would rush into conclusion calling it an evil spirit. Next is to start abracadabra prayers, casting and loosing to no avail – otu abụghị n’ezi. The pastor will be blowing the microphone making noise like a lunatic, the congregation belief deliverance is taken place: to no avail _ otu abụghị n’ezi.
Kill her, the pastor said.
Let her die and leave.
I asked, how possible? Is it possible I ask?
Can you kill a spirit?
Have you heard or seen where one killed a spirit if not in the church where they kill spirit with mouth and microphone, yet things remains same and sometimes get worse yet?
Now listen, let me teach you wisdom: saying the truth because truth is life _ eziokwu bụ ndụ. This is why it set the captive free. The moment you know the truth. The truth you know must surely set you free.
As a human being, use event as seen in the land of the living to judge event as seen in the spiritual realm.
Sometimes, as it’s here on earth, so it’s in the realm of spirit
As its in the spiritual realms so it’s in the physical plane.
Take for example you see a woman and engaged to her as a young man.
After some while, both of you happen to marry happily. Marriage you must remember comes upon an agreement between two opposite parties. Now, after a while, you travel to another space for a mission, another destination where you now find comfort. If you forget calling to say hi to the wife, how will she feel?
Answer!
What if you are not calling or have lost contact, passion for her and she kept looking after you?
Haven gotten to reach out to you, you pretend not knowing her and denied haven nothing to do with her.
No matter what she does, you kept pushing her away and ignore all signs and signals. What do you expect the woman to do?
Would you not do anything mad if you were in her shoes?
Of course you will!
If you can as a legitimate wife, you are not against the law if you must suffer him anyhow without wasting his life.

This is what happens between those who got married to mariners before earthly visit. Stop been fooled by Christians and their ignorant teachings.
They are spiritual ignorant. All of them whom you call man of God are ofeke in spiritual matters. They are ignorant about spiritual affairs. They are pretenders and deceivers. The reason you must be careful about their false teachings.
They only shout and make noise like lunatic. They only know how to make noise not knowing that our spiritual engagement asked for quietness, peace of mind and solitude. The very moment they should spent with wisdom are given for selfishness. The reason wisdom is far seen from them. They lack truth. They know nothing about spirituality and wisdom.
Pastors are ofeke (fools) when it comes to spiritual matters. They know absolute nothing as e dey happen in the realm of spirits. They know nothing but go on deceiving people. They must pay the prize at the end of it all. It’s written, you shall reap what you sowed. That’s to say, you shall reap deception as a deceiver.
For crying out loud, this people are not deceiving animals. They are deceiving human being.
The image of the gods.
Turning black what nature has made to be white for their selfish interests.
Causing disunity, hatred, disaster between nature and mankind, bridging the gap between spirits and mankind.
Why people suffer today!
They must reap what they sowed at the end of it all.
Wisdom shall judge them!
So what is the remedy?
this is what a spiritualist will help you do. He/she will first engage you on a spiritual consultation to know if truly you are a mariner perhaps the cause of your problems and encounter. Because it’s not necessarily mariners who encounter spiritual wives. A witch can as well manifest herself as a spiritual wife to cause ruin to someone’s life.
Nevertheless, If you are and it happens that you are suffering as a result of spiritual wife/husband, the spiritualist shall consult further, knowing what must be done.
It’s then the wife/husband will have to name his or her prize owing to your position, agreement and periodic in the marine. Hence all mariners doesn’t share same position and agreement are differently. Upon this information, he get to inform you about what to be done. No matter what, it must involve a sacrifice!
We call it marine ritual settlement – ịkwa ibu mmiri nye ndị ọgbọ na uke.
During this sacrifices you have to accept him or her back.
We call it ‘ịkwa ibu udo na abụghị ibu nkewa’ a sacrifice for peace not separation.
When properly done, he/she will assist you in all aspects of life been in union. That’s the reason for sect (i di n’otu ndị mmiri).
Odogwuakataaka: That’s to say if he is good to go. Should he/she is wicked, so jealous. We e plead him or her to accept some things which he refused. If he do, good.
If not, we can then upon ọfọ na ogu talk about separation.
This you must know asked for wisdom hence his/her stubbornness might be as a result of her workforce, duty, services to deliver.
Do you know that these mariners (marine husband and wife’s) are destiny helpers? The very reason they are sometimes filled with jealous and must be treated with caution otherwise one’s life and destiny are placed on danger zone at the cost of services in the name of deliverance. Many are suffering this today!
Know whom you run to at the cost of spiritual matters.

: A spirit such as marine wife/husband might proof stubborn owing to agreement reached before your earthly coming. When we come across such like spirit person’s, we plead with him /her to allow you enjoy your earthly life as you wish. Remember, all these are done upon agreement, I as a priest stand to negotiate this as a third party upon ritual sacrifices. It’s not a thing we do by force as seen in the churches. Shouting with a microphone to draw attention of the people, proving how much we can speak in tongues and grammars. It’s never done that way for your safety, success, happiness and longevity.
Because it’s not all about today but tomorrow: the case must be handled with care.
This is the very reason igbo adage says ‘oké dibịa gbaa àjà, ọ dịka ewere nyee ndị mmụọ n’aka’ when a great/experienced priest performed ritual exercise, it looks like the items was given hand to hand to the spirits.
The result remains positive, settling all matters and causing light on one’s path.

If you must work on spiritual ignorance to disintegrate what shouldn’t be disintegrated, the subject (human) must suffer the penalty.
One true information people lack in spiritual matters remains the fact that spirits are not at lost (loosing end) in any matter as it involve humanity. The reason you must be careful and stop playing with your spiritual life.
Haven known these, I have to state it finally that spiritual husband and wife are not evil.
If they are, that’s to say you are evil also hence you are a mariner. If you are not a mariner, you can’t get married to a mariner as a wife or husband. The difference between you and him /her is only that you had the opportunity to exist on earth as a human being after pre-existence as a mariner in waters.
The lineage continues as you bear forth children on earth: especially, a case whereby you are a mariner and your earthly husband/wife is also a mariner, all your earthly children shall be mariners.
It’s divine
It’s a nature mandate!
It’s written and can’t be changed.
You can’t change what nature has caused to be neither will you condemn it.
Who are you to judge?
Do you judge upon wisdom or ignorant?
Who are you to condemned what nature has made to be?
How many years do you have to exist here on earth?
How many years do you think these matter have lasted, involving billions of people born and yet to be born?
Is it why you are here?
All these are meant for pastors to answer.
People who dwelt on ignorant, causing ruin to people’s life and destiny.
Sending people to early graves and are happy doing that hence it put food on their table.
Judgement await us all!
Ife onye metere, o weere isi ya buru (evil men do, leave with them and after them).
Wise man think and talk about tomorrow, a fool (ofeke) talk about today.
Today has only but 24hours in it, tomorrow is indefinite.
Don’t be deceived!
WhatsApp08103253857
#echoesoftruth1.website2.me
One of d longest epistle ever.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Kobojunkie: 3:03am On Dec 02, 2023
drezzyx:
Conclusion: Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches that Christians are superior to angels because the verse teaches that the holy angels minister to Christians have missed two important points. 1) The passage never says Christians are superior to angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are greatest are those who serve others (Matthew 20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that Christians will have a higher rank than angels in the millennial kingdom because they will judge angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank does not mean that Christians will be superior in capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will Christians be greater than angels in the future
I am afraid your conclusion above is filled with contradictory claims that one would not even know where to begin. undecided
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Kobojunkie: 6:02am On Dec 02, 2023
drezzyx:
Yet, those who go to heaven will some day judge angels. Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB) Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the ages will judge the angels.
■ This will occur not while we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a future event that will occur during the millennial kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that Christians will judge angels, they will be greater than angels.
1. Judge what angels? Why? undecided

2. What heavenly body abeg? Cease to be flesh and bone? But when Jesus Christ went up to Heaven, He went clothed in flesh and bone, and those who are His followers are to go as He did. Or did Scripture get that all wrong? undecided
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by tctrills: 9:02am On Dec 02, 2023
drezzyx:
Bible Question:
There is a scripture that says that God made us a
little lower than the angels. There is another
scripture that states that when we die, we are
equal to the angels. There is another scripture that
implies we are higher than the angels because God
made us in His image. Are we equal, lower, or
higher than the angels?
Bible Answer:
Scripture reveals that humans are made lower than
the angels when the book of Hebrews says that
Jesus Christ, who became a man, was made lower
than the angels.
YOU HAVE MADE HIM FOR A LITTLE
WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;
YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH
GLORY AND HONOR, AND HAVE
APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS
OF YOUR HANDS . . . Hebrews
2:7 (NASB)
In the first chapter of Hebrews, we are told that
Jesus was above the angels since He was and is
God. But Hebrews 2:7-9 explains that when Jesus
became a man, He was made lower than the
angels in the sense that He took on human flesh.
He was still God. He was God in human flesh. He
was temporarily lower than the angels because He
took on human form. Therefore, Hebrews 2:7-9
implies that humans are made lower than the
angels.
It is important to note that scripture never says
that we are equal to the angels. Scripture only
reveals that we are lower than the angels while we
live here on this earth. Yet, those who go to
heaven will some day judge angels.
Do you not know that we will judge
angels? How much more matters of
this life? 1 Corinthians 6:3 (NASB)
Some day those who believe in Jesus Christ and
follow Him will judge the angels. The saints of the
ages will judge the angels. This will occur not while
we are made of flesh and bone. It will occur only
after we receive our new heavenly bodies. This is a
future event that will occur during the millennial
kingdom which is the time that Christ will rule and
reign as king (Zechariah 14:9-21). In the sense that
Christians will judge angels, they will be greater
than angels.
Conclusion:
Those who conclude that Hebrews 1:14 teaches
that Christians are superior to angels because the
verse teaches that the holy angels minister to
Christians have missed two important points. 1)
The passage never says Christians are superior to
angels and 2) Scripture teaches that those who are
greatest are those who serve others (Matthew
20:24-28). That would mean the angels are greater
than Christians. Yet, we can conclude that
Christians will have a higher rank than angels in
the millennial kingdom because they will judge
angels (1 Corinthians 6:3). But having a higher rank
does not mean that Christians will be superior in
capability. The reader is encouraged to visit “Will
Christians be greater than angels in the future
Who are Christians and who are angels? Christians believe and follow Christ. Angels believe and follow Christ?
What's the reward for believing in Christ?
Those who believe in him become co-heirs with Christ. They inherit the Godly nature. They become like God. Does this apply to angels too? Yes.
We are all fellow servants who have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Re: Are Real Christian Higher Than The Angels Of God. by Kobojunkie: 9:33am On Dec 02, 2023
idesylvester:
The thing dey confuse me.

See even God know say human beings no fit dey perfect n that's d only reason why one can be measured with Angel's level. Aside from Jesus christ who had no sin, who else my brother?
Humans can't be perfect yet God commands that that be perfect even as He is perfect? Are you kidding? Why lie against God? undecided

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