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Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 12:27pm On Nov 10
what can u day about Jesus going up in his physical body and that of Elisha.. should these recorded stories of the Bible be believed, was Jesus Ascension to heaven like speed of rockets that takes years to reach another planet.

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 12:33pm On Nov 10
Brock1:
what can u day about Jesus going up in his physical body and that of Elisha.. should these recorded stories of the Bible be believed?
Yes, those recorded stories of the Bible should be believed
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 12:36pm On Nov 10
MuttleyLaff:
Yes, those recorded stories of the Bible should be believed

Even if they r false?
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 12:47pm On Nov 10
Brock1:
Even if they r false?
Give me a list of examples, because I dont understand how you mean even if they are false.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Kkings11: 1:09pm On Nov 10
I believe it. I choose to.
Faith is all I have and nobody is taking it from me.
#ibelieveinGodandChrist

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by ellagabs(f): 1:28pm On Nov 10
Kkings11:
I believe it. I choose to.
Faith is all I have and nobody is taking it from me.
#ibelieveinGodandChrist

blessed are those...

#ibelieveinGodandChrist , this line made my day.

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by orisa37: 3:32pm On Nov 10
Brock1:
what can u day about Jesus going up in his physical body and that of Elisha.. should these recorded stories of the Bible be believed, was Jesus Ascension to heaven like speed of rockets that takes years to reach another planet.



Who has found His Bones?
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 3:40pm On Nov 10
What if it is just a story.... I mean, the gospel are all written in the 3rd person and the writers never said they believed the story they are telling and they seem very far from it...

Much like Harry Potter...
Why the Romans added it at the end of the Jewish scriptures is what I am researching now..

I am almost close to unraveling the reasons..
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 4:10pm On Nov 10
orisa37:




Who has found His Bones?

No one, same as Abraham bones.. For d fact ur bones were not found doesn't mean u ascended to heaven.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 4:14pm On Nov 10
sonmvayina:
What if it is just a story.... I mean, the gospel are all written in the 3rd person and the writers never said they believed the story they are telling and they seem very far from it...

Much like Harry Potter...
Why the Romans added it at the end of the Jewish scriptures is what I am researching now..

I am almost close to unraveling the reasons..

I'd love to av a taste of d truth when u unraveled that.

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by xproducer: 4:17pm On Nov 10
Brock1:
what can u day about Jesus going up in his physical body and that of Elisha.. should these recorded stories of the Bible be believed, was Jesus Ascension to heaven like speed of rockets that takes years to reach another planet.
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They should be believed because the holy Bible is the infallible, tested word of GOD which has not, and will not fail - every prophecy coming to pass, every word true! (2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:21)

Jesus Ascends to Heaven
"Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” - Acts 1:9-11

"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen." - Revelation 1:7

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 4:29pm On Nov 10
R u aware dat, there are contradictions in d bible?


Bible were written base on inspiration by holy spirit, but how can we test such validity?




xproducer:

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They should be believed because the holy Bible is the infallible, tested word of GOD which has not, and will not fail - every prophecy coming to pass, every word true! (2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:21)

Jesus Ascends to Heaven
"Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” - Acts 1:9-11

"Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen." - Revelation 1:7
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 5:03pm On Nov 10
Brock1:


I'd love to av a taste of d truth when u unraveled that.

Are you on Facebook?.. If yes.. There is this rabii /Jewish scholar I follow.. "Judaism is not christianity minus jesus"... Follow him for good original Jewish teaching.. He contrast them with Christian believe and ideas.. He is very good..

I asked him why the Romans added their so called" new testimonies" at the end of their tanack, clearly any one who is honest can see that both belief are different and it is not a continuation of the Jewish one.. He said it was mainly for propaganda. They want to claim they are the new Israel and hence a new convenant...

This was his answer " Propaganda. They were trying to give their pagan religion credibility by saying that they were the new Israel, aka new covenant."

I now asked him" What is the Jewish teaching on Satan or devil..? Please I will like to know.. Thank you..

He answered "
There is only one G-d -- so they certainly didn't get it from Judaism! I've often thought they borrowed the idea from Zoroastrianism. Ahura Mazda is the good god and Angra Mainyu is the bad god... They also believe in a heaven and hell -- sound familiar? There is no hell in Judaism... Some people in Iran still follow Zoroastrianism."

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 6:06pm On Nov 10
What's his name?

sonmvayina:


Are you on Facebook?.. If yes.. There is this rabii /Jewish scholar I follow.. "Judaism is not christianity minus jesus"... Follow him for good original Jewish teaching.. He contrast them with Christian believe and ideas.. He is very good..

I asked him why the Romans added their so called" new testimonies" at the end of their tanack, clearly any one who is honest can see that both belief are different and it is not a continuation of the Jewish one.. He said it was mainly for propaganda. They want to claim they are the new Israel and hence a new convenant...

This was his answer " Propaganda. They were trying to give their pagan religion credibility by saying that they were the new Israel, aka new covenant."

I now asked him" What is the Jewish teaching on Satan or devil..? Please I will like to know.. Thank you..

He answered "
There is only one G-d -- so they certainly didn't get it from Judaism! I've often thought they borrowed the idea from Zoroastrianism. Ahura Mazda is the good god and Angra Mainyu is the bad god... They also believe in a heaven and hell -- sound familiar? There is no hell in Judaism... Some people in Iran still follow Zoroastrianism."
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 6:09pm On Nov 10
Brock1:

What's his name?


Judaism is not christianity minus Jesus..

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by OJODEL10(m): 8:36pm On Nov 10
sonmvayina:
What if it is just a story.... I mean, the gospel are all written in the 3rd person and the writers never said they believed the story they are telling and they seem very far from it...

Much like Harry Potter...
Why the Romans added it at the end of the Jewish scriptures is what I am researching now..

I am almost close to unraveling the reasons..
please list the gosple that is written by third person(s). mind you, you can't trust this rabi because no first century rabi or written document that contracdict jesus ressurrection even Josephus supported it in its writings also the doing of his disciples.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 9:34pm On Nov 10
Brock1:
R u aware dat, there are contradictions in d bible?
No, I know not of any contradictions in the bible and I am not aware that, there are contradictions in the bible too.

With the greatest respect Brock1, I beg, oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions, arent at all contradictions. They largely are phantom Bible contradictions

Brock1:
Bible were written base on inspiration by holy spirit, but how can we test such validity?
You can test its validity by checking on its truthfulness, its trustworthiness, its track record, fulfilled prophecies etcetera
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Aaronsrod: 9:48pm On Nov 10
It is all true. Only a fool would not believe.

All who do not believe shall burn eternally!

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Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Brock1: 6:28am On Nov 11
Even Nostradamus predicted accurately..


Check
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/

I believe in God as opposed by d humanist.
If truly Jesus was powerful, he told his disciples'greater is d work u will do if ye believe' what do we have today in our churches, fake miracles everywhere, some don't perform miracle so dey won't be bursted. Why is Jesus power not replicated in dis current generation.


MuttleyLaff:
No, I know not of any contradictions in the bible and I am not aware that, there are contradictions in the bible too.

With the greatest respect Brock1, I beg, oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions, arent at all contradictions. They largely are phantom Bible contradictions

You can test its validity by checking on its truthfulness, its trustworthiness, its track record, fulfilled prophecies etcetera
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 7:52am On Nov 11
OJODEL10:
please list the gosple that is written by third person(s). mind you, you can't trust this rabi because no first century rabi or written document that contracdict jesus ressurrection even Josephus supported it in its writings also the doing of his disciples.

If you are really sincere you will see that the old testament beliefs are different from new testament beliefs.. God never said he had a son or he was sending him to die as sacrifice for sins.. He already told them "if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face and confess and turn away from their evil ways I will hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal their land"... All he demanded was a sincere repentance... He never asked for a human sacrifice.. The new testament he promised was a convenant of everlasting peace.. Not death for sins, he already gave them a solution to the problem of sin...

So where did the Jesus story come from?.. It can't be the Jews.. They where looking forward to a peaceful future that the Messiah was supposed to Herald..... So you understand why the Jews will not and never believe Jesus is Messiah... Because God never said the Messiah will be a mediator Or a demi God....
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by MuttleyLaff: 8:23am On Nov 11
Aaronsrod:
It is all true. Only a fool would not believe.

All who do not believe shall burn eternally!
It is only a dimwit who would believe Jesus had propulsion to ascend into heavens, like used in rockets to launch into space. Smh.

If Jesus could walk into a room through the wall and a closed door, then why couldnt He rise into heaven without any rocket propulsion, hmm?

Brock1:
Even Nostradamus predicted accurately..
You do know the frenchman Nostradamus was an apothecary, hmm? Anyway if he said the following that "pigs will become brothers to man" then though I think I guess I know what he means by that comment, but still hmmm., besides how many out of his about a thousand quatrains did Nostradamus predict accurately, erhn?.

Brock1:
Check
https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/reasons-humanists-reject-bible/
Dont let americanhumanist.org be your influence. I checked the site and I immediately detected in less than 2 minutes, how americanhumanist.org is misleading with incorrect info and shallow understanding. To be honest with you Brock1, I wouldnt recommend you allow or give americanhumanist.org the capacity to have an effect on your character building, your general and overall development and behaviour, as in, meaning dont allow it shape the way in which you act or conduct yourself towards others and especially to God.

Brock1:
I believe in God as opposed by d humanist.
The believe in God is the beginning of wisdom. Congratulations in believing in God.

I repeat, with the greatest respect Brock1, and beg that, oftentimes what seemingly are thought to be contradictions in the bible, arent at all contradictions. They largely are phantom Bible contradictions

Brock1:
If truly Jesus was powerful, he told his disciples'greater is d work u will do if ye believe'
"“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also;
and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father.
"
- John 14:12

Brock1, can I ask you simple, easy and straightforward questions that require honest sincere and direct answers?

1/ Did Jesus separate siamese twins or conjoined babies?
2/ Are siamese twins or conjoined babies succesfully separated now, and at the present time?

If you request it, I can give you an exhaustible lists of greater works than Jesus done with medical internet website references

Brock1:
what do we have today in our churches, fake miracles everywhere, some don't perform miracle so dey won't be bursted. Why is Jesus power not replicated in dis current generation.
"The time has come for judgment to begin, and God's own people are the first to be judged.
If it starts with us, how will it end with those who do not believe the Good News from God?
"
- 1 Peter 4:17

Brock1, work out your own salvation. Whoever that does fake miracles will get his/her comeuppance for misleading people and taking advantage of their desperation.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by OJODEL10(m): 12:02pm On Nov 11
sonmvayina:


If you are really sincere you will see that the old testament beliefs are different from new testament beliefs.. God never said he had a son or he was sending him to die as sacrifice for sins.. He already told them "if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face and confess and turn away from their evil ways I will hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal their land"... All he demanded was a sincere repentance... He never asked for a human sacrifice.. The new testament he promised was a convenant of everlasting peace.. Not death for sins, he already gave them a solution to the problem of sin...

So where did the Jesus story come from?.. It can't be the Jews.. They where looking forward to a peaceful future that the Messiah was supposed to Herald..... So you understand why the Jews will not and never believe Jesus is Messiah... Because God never said the Messiah will be a mediator Or a demi God....
the issue of suffering messiah didn't start in the new testament but in the old testament. in the book of genesis 3:15 study that passage with open heart. the serpent and the seed of the woman. why did God have to by pass man to give the messiah. in that passage the messiah has to die(be bruise) and ressurrected (crushed). go to act 1:6 what the jews are after is kingdom restoration not any kind of peace.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 12:54pm On Nov 11
OJODEL10:
the issue of suffering messiah didn't start in the new testament but in the old testament. in the book of genesis 3:15 study that passage with open heart. the serpent and the seed of the woman. why did God have to by pass man to give the messiah. in that passage the messiah has to die(be bruise) and ressurrected (crushed). go to act 1:6 what the jews are after is kingdom restoration not any kind of peace.

Genesis 3 has got nothing to do the Messiah, it was God passing judgement on the 3 actors in the drama,.. The man, the woman and the serpent.. There is always enmity between humans and snakes... But exoterically, the serpent represented death.. The story is about life and death... It was adapted from an old Babylonian epic about Adapa and how he lost a chance of eternal life... The serpent of the good tree was ninghizhida and the serpent of the evil tree was inanna.. She was the goddess of death and destruction...
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Blabbermouth: 1:38pm On Nov 11
sonmvayina:


If you are really sincere you will see that the old testament beliefs are different from new testament beliefs.. God never said he had a son or he was sending him to die as sacrifice for sins.. He already told them "if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and seek my face and confess and turn away from their evil ways I will hear from heaven and forgive their sins and heal their land"... All he demanded was a sincere repentance... He never asked for a human sacrifice.. The new testament he promised was a convenant of everlasting peace.. Not death for sins, he already gave them a solution to the problem of sin...

So where did the Jesus story come from?.. It can't be the Jews.. They where looking forward to a peaceful future that the Messiah was supposed to Herald..... So you understand why the Jews will not and never believe Jesus is Messiah... Because God never said the Messiah will be a mediator Or a demi God....
Times back, I was invited to a believer's gathering and they mostly were all believers gifted with the spirit of the MOST HIGH.
During the service, they were praying and praying in a language that seems so odd to me. Yet, it wasn't something conjured up from the brain, it didn't look real, It was real, it was tongues .... I don't know how, but I got caught up and I tapped from the flow and I began to utter in a new language which I never heard nor was taught. The candle was lit and I was graced with this same spirit.
Do you know why I am saying all these??
This spirit testified of Christ. And whatever is true of God the spirit testifies. And i submit to you, you need not to believe me, but with all thine heart, find God, find Christ, find this spirit and no-one and nothing will ever be able to cajole of feed you false teachings and lessons.
You are a soon to be atheist but I pray thee that before your slide, find this SPIRIT. So many of your doubts and questions would be answered.
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 1:46pm On Nov 11
Blabbermouth:

Times back, I was invited to a believer's gathering and they mostly were all believers gifted with the spirit of the MOST HIGH.
During the service, they were praying and praying in a language that seems so odd to me. Yet, it wasn't something conjured up from the brain, it didn't look real, It was real, it was tongues .... I don't know how, but I got caught up and I tapped from the flow and I began to utter in a new language which I never heard nor was taught. The candle was lit and I was graced with this same spirit.
Do you know why I am saying all these??
This spirit testified of Christ. And whatever is true of God the spirit testifies. And i submit to you, you need not to believe me, but with all thine heart, find God, find Christ, find this spirit and no-one and nothing will ever be able to cajole of feed you false teachings and lessons.
You are a soon to be atheist but I pray thee that before your slide, find this SPIRIT. So many of your doubts and questions would be answered.

So anybody who is not a Christian, is automatically an atheist?... I hear you.. So why should I worship a man as God,?.. Isn't it Idol worship.. When God never said we should do..

So some Greeks and Romans got together and created a story about a dying son of God that they copied from earlier myth and all of a sudden, theirs become truth?...

I am OK.. With worshipping my creator.. Directly as he has no son neither does he require any mediator or intermediary.. Thank you..
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Blabbermouth: 1:49pm On Nov 11
sonmvayina:


So anybody who is not a Christian, is automatically an atheist?... I hear you.. So why should I worship a man as God,?.. Isn't it Idol worship.. When God never said we should do..

So some Greeks and Romans got together and created a story about a dying son of God that they copied from earlier myth and all of a sudden, theirs become truth?...

I am OK.. With worshipping my creator.. Directly as he has no son neither does he require any mediator or intermediary.. Thank you..
"The Father is greater than the son. " ... This was Christ himself giving honor to whom it is due.
Do you have the Holyspirit in you?
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 3:23pm On Nov 11
Blabbermouth:

"The Father is greater than the son. " ... This was Christ himself giving honor to whom it is due.
Do you have the Holyspirit in you?

When did God have a son? Who is God's wife?.. Do you know you are insulting the creator... My lord is but one Lord. Deuteronomy 6 :4....read Isaiah 45 :4-5..

There is none beside him.. He forms the light and create Darkness.... He is the creator of everything...
I am the Holy Spirit having a human experience.. Read psalm 104 :29-31
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Blabbermouth: 4:02pm On Nov 11
sonmvayina:


When did God have a son? Who is God's wife?.. Do you know you are insulting the creator... My lord is but one Lord. Deuteronomy 6 :4....read Isaiah 45 :4-5..

There is none beside him.. He forms the light and create Darkness.... He is the creator of everything...
I am the Holy Spirit having a human experience.. Read psalm 104 :29-31
It is well.......
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by xproducer: 1:21am On Nov 12
Brock1:
R u aware dat, there are contradictions in d bible?


Bible were written base on inspiration by holy spirit, but how can we test such validity?





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Even though there may seem to be "contradictions" - I can assure you that the holy Bible is truly very harmonious. That is why we are to "search the Scriptures" - John 5:39

However, one way of testing "such validity" is by witnessing/observing prophesies fulfilled from the beginning of the history of the world to present. For example: Isaiah wrote under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit about the Lord Jesus Christ (approximately 700 years before the Lord actually came to earth in the flesh) -

"For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." - Isaiah 9:6 --------> this is one of many examples of major prophecy fulfilled.

Beyond all the physical proofs, we can only believe the word of GOD by the faith that He freely and graciously gives; we can only truly understand the word of GOD by the Holy Spirit. - 1 Corinthians 2:9-15

The holy Bible contains the words of life, and is living!

"For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account." - Hebrews 4:12-13

"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." - John 6:63

"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by 1Sharon(f): 1:46am On Nov 12
Aaronsrod:
It is all true. Only a fool would not believe.

All who do not believe shall burn eternally!
Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by sonmvayina(m): 6:52am On Nov 12
Blabbermouth:

It is well.......

The truth is that you don't know who you truly are, that why these white people are tossing you around with their empty religion...

It is time for you to rise..

Re: Did Jesus Truly Go Up In His Physical Body Like Rocket Going Into Other Planets? by Mrpsly247(m): 12:04pm On Nov 12
sonmvayina:


When did God have a son? Who is God's wife?.. Do you know you are insulting the creator... My lord is but one Lord. Deuteronomy 6 :4....read Isaiah 45 :4-5..

There is none beside him.. He forms the light and create Darkness.... He is the creator of everything...
I am the Holy Spirit having a human experience.. Read psalm 104 :29-31
God had a son when Jesus was born... In the beginning he was regarded as the word.. Which became flesh

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