ProudDick:


Tell me when they handed power to them or shut up. Until shagari in 1979 no Fulani ruled Nigeria.

You idiots see everybody from the north as Fulani because of your inferiority complex.

LegendHero:
Most of you guys on here don’t get the true picture of the happenings and you’re just attributing too much power to the Fulanis or let me say Northerners in general.

The British invaded the North during those 1890s and they conquer each region one after the other. Infact the fulanis have a prophecy then that after a certain number of sultanate, the Fulani empire will collapse, that date corresponds to sometimes in 1912 or so. All these are documented in the New York Times Archives.

I have all the news when the British invade every part of Nigeria. I know how they conquered Nupes, Benins, Oyo empire, Ilorin sultanate, etc. Those are well documented in prints on a day by day basis.

The Northerners are not handed power by the whites, Nigeria constitution itself handed power to the North. North believe in homogeneity such that it’s hard to divide them among NE/NW/NC during Nigeria formative days. But the south are made up of Western and Eastern region both with the same ambition.

North controls everything in Nigeria because of their enormous population most times fake. Zik was also a part of the wrong coz Awolowo raised the alarm in 1963 census that the North rigged the numbers by giving 31million to the North but Zik was too blinded by his loyalty to the North that he looked the other way.

Check Nigeria election even within states, the majority LG always decide who rules a state. In Oyo state for example, if Ibadan people support any aspiring governor in their majority then that person is already governor.

North is ruling Nigeria not because they are wise or because they are handed by the British, it’s because of their population and because we practice this kind of democracy. The northerners also know this fact which explains why they keep giving birth to children even if they don’t have a means to cater for them. It is their best bet to survival in this entity called Nigeria.

Hear this, even if the Yorubas and Igbos form an alliance, they will still need the north. Both Awolowo and Azikwe are not stupid, they also know what we are saying now, but they are helpless. Although Awolowo is still more radical coz he fought the north till his death and he lived most of his life in opposition. Zik ambition to rule made him subservient to the north and that also affected Nigeria a lot.

The best bet is to change Nigeria way of democracy or breakup the country to break the hold of the North on Nigeria. If status quo remains, the North will forever decide who rules Nigeria and the Igbos and Yorubas will NEVER ally together in politics.

wirinet:


I strongly disagree that the north can defeat an alliance between the east and west. Harmony between the east and west will also bring in the south south and the Middle belt. One major problem with the east is that they have voter apathy. Their voting numbers are always very poor. In the north east and North West, the voter participation is very high, many northerners travel from from places they live just to vote. You will see kilometres long queues during elections.
If the west and East form a harmonious political alliance, the Niger delta and middle belt,especially Benue, kwara and kogi will follow them. It will make things very difficult for North west and North East.

Osaze007:


Sultan of sokoto via tafawa balewa

Kapilta:
please remove pa Awo from the thing abeg. Was it not useless zik that turn himself to slave for the north even when they didn't ask for his slavery service. He fought Awo for no reason when the man was only trying to protect his own, zik went behind him and align with the fulanis just to become a useless ceremonial president. Such a useless greedy fellow. May he rot in hell.

Nigeria failure started on him, even the north really do not want one nigeria, he forced it on them all for greediness so he can have lagos all to himself..

Such a useless fellow. May he rot in hell again, he's the major reason we are all here today.

Zooposki:


[s]Meanwhile, DNA shows the Yorubas have a higher proportion of Hebrew Israelites than the Igbos. [/s]

johndoexxx:


Who dash monkey banana black hebrew. Just as you criminals claim you are the most educated yet Igbos lead. Just stop your propaganda. Not just Black Hebrew in mouth but do you look like black hebrew? Yorubas look like Kenyans, South Sudanese...cone top skull, skinny, not hairy, dark skin, no muscles or well built, these are characteristics of black African Hamites.

QuotaSystem:


Severe delusion of grandeur.

Zik was so busy in partnership with the North (to the utter disgust of Awo), so if you claim the North was being controlled by the British, it only means Zik was also under control of the British through the Northerners.

Think.

Blankstare:


Reading the activities of southern pressure groups during the colonial era isn't the subject matter the o.p wants to know, but how the fulanis Lord's and subjugated fellow Nigerians eversince. It's simple, a design the British believed will siute their agenda of poor husband and rich bride. You should read up the ' dual mandate' my friend.

IGBOSON1:


Zik was working with whom he felt more comfortable with! Basically, playing the cards he'd been dealt with! It was either the north or western region, and given his experiences with Awo and his action group, his choice didn't come as a surprise!


We have said time without number that Zik was naive to believe in 'one Nigeria' given the benefit of hindsight! But he did....and he must have weighed his options before deciding to align with the region he felt was the 'lesser of the two evils'.

Awos' sentiments on the matter is neither here nor there as Zik himself could have equally been disgusted with Awo antics!

Your point is moot though because the facts as they were and are today is that the Igbo that still believe in 'one Nigeria' have to be engaged in Nigerian politics one way or the other. Now if a secessionist like Mazi Kanu was working in partnership with the northern political elite and you called him out on it, i'd have said you're on to something!

Think mate...think!

T9ksy:




@ bolded above.........................so you mean zik was more comfortable with the northerners who have been killing his people since 1945 than the yorubas who have not threatened the physical existence of his people? Furthermore, what exactly were zik's experiences with Awo and his people that propelled the former and his kinfolks to su.ck up to those up north who takes grate delight in decimating their population within their region? I do hope you will come up with something new and not the alleged "carpet-crossing" in western region premiership election.

IGBOSON1:


YES...Zik was more comfortable aligning with the north, as he saw them as more trustworthy! You have a problem with that? And YES again....the major (but not the only) reason for this was the cross-carpeting incident in the Western parliament at the time! Zik probably found it harder to fathom how a people he had lived and worked with for most of his adult life could be so two-faced and treacherous to fall back on ethnic-inspired politicking just to gain power!

Of course like i've always posited, Zik was a bit naive to think Nigeria was ripe for the type of unity and nationhood he had envisioned that led him to support a Fulani man becoming the first Mayor of Enugu! Awo soon brought him back down to earth with a thump! But i cut Zik some slack b'cos his naivete was as a consequence of his pan-Nigerian upbringing and political tutelage. Zik was a true Nigerian....even up to a fault!

The murdering of Igbos in the north pre-independence was not done by the Sardauna! He didn't send them out to kill Igbos, so why should Zik not prefer dealing with him? On that anti-Igbo interview the Sardauna gave: what i take from that (and which for the most part is true of the core muslim north) is that if northerners don't like you, they will say so to your face so at least you know what you're dealing with and where you stand with them ab-initio! This wasn't the case with the likes of Awo, and Ziks' preference to go with the north was later to be proved right going by Awos' utterances and actions in the leadup to and during the uncivil war! If a northerner wants to stick a dagger in you, he will stick it in your guts....face to face, and not wait till you turn so he can stick it up to the hilt in your back like the likes of Awo would do!

Osaze007:
I was just wondering
What is middlebelt today wasn’t North it was for west and east
Also if you look at fight for independence you see mainly Yoruba Igbo Niger delta
But when it was time to hand over power Na Fulani Dem give

During civil war Fulani enjoyed British support
During military rule same thing

So any reasons for this particular phenomenon

Also shame on zik and Awo for not working together
If they did Nigeria would have been built into an equitable union not the one they were antagonist against each other

ZZ22:
Before the civil war how powerful was the Fulani? The fact is Nigerian people handed over to Fulani after they connived with Fulani against Igbos and in turn what did Nigerians get as reward after their connivance with Fulani? a messed up country and a demonic constitution that has put Nigerians in chains and checks of the Caliphate.

nku5:


The British made sure that Awo & Zik did not work together. Classic divide and rule.

Aderr:
My friend, I just made it clear to you why the British favoured the north against the south. The north was malleable and docile. Every other thing you adduce for that is just conjecture.

7lives:


Forgive Zik, Zik had a dream of a great Nigeria, he wants to rule, to bring this dream to reality.
He didn't know that dreams sometimes die first,, this is Africa white men may have lumped us together, can our minds and thinking be equally lumped together?, this is where Zik got it all wrong and why Yorubas will always see him as a sell out.
Since Abraham Adesanya, Yorubas have resolved to only carry only Yoruba loads and nothing more.

myobjective:


No it wasn't the British, it was the politics of hate and envy being practice newly created artificial African States.

Zik wanted everything that the Yorubas has been blessed with, be it deep coastal shore, huge civilization, Lagos, arable Interland etc.

2mch:
British only support willing puppets. Hausas are the calmest of all major groups in Nigeria. They are actually quite docile. Which is why Fulani was able to use them as a ladder and relegate them. The British handed over power to Hausas.

Yoruba were too cunning and fought the most for independence, outsmarting the Brits a lot. Then the speed at which the region was growing and their ability to use British laws and systems against the Brits was alarming. Zik even learned his politics from the West.

The Igbo could not be trusted either because they had no real unifying factor when it comes to traditional institutions. Their republican nature makes them a possibly volatile group. They are also quite stubborn, unpredictable and ambitious. Edo were too small in number to be given power. Other major groups would easily out run them as soon as the Brits turn their backs.

Now, the Hausa had the largest population, served under an emirate, largely uneducated, trusting and straightforward. The choice for continued British involvement in Nigeria is obvious. Fulani is a minority group and does not have the power really, it’s the Hausa that do.

IGBOSON1:


YES...Zik was more comfortable aligning with the north, as he saw them as more trustworthy! You have a problem with that? And YES again....the major (but not the only) reason for this was the cross-carpeting incident in the Western parliament at the time! Zik probably found it harder to fathom how a people he had lived and worked with for most of his adult life could be so two-faced and treacherous to fall back on ethnic-inspired politicking just to gain power!

Of course like i've always posited, Zik was a bit naive to think Nigeria was ripe for the type of unity and nationhood he had envisioned that led him to support a Fulani man becoming the first Mayor of Enugu! Awo soon brought him back down to earth with a thump! But i cut Zik some slack b'cos his naivete was as a consequence of his pan-Nigerian upbringing and political tutelage. Zik was a true Nigerian....even up to a fault!

The murdering of Igbos in the north pre-independence was not done by the Sardauna! He didn't send them out to kill Igbos, so why should Zik not prefer dealing with him? On that anti-Igbo interview the Sardauna gave: what i take from that (and which for the most part is true of the core muslim north) is that if northerners don't like you, they will say so to your face so at least you know what you're dealing with and where you stand with them ab-initio! This wasn't the case with the likes of Awo, and Ziks' preference to go with the north was later to be proved right going by Awos' utterances and actions in the leadup to and during the uncivil war! If a northerner wants to stick a dagger in you, he will stick it in your guts....face to face, and not wait till you turn so he can stick it up to the hilt in your back like the likes of Awo would do!

7lives:


Thank God for the cross carpeting, Igbos would have been calling the Yorubas mumu today. the British created three regions dominated by three ethnic groups, it is proper for an Hausas to rule the north buts it's is not proper for Yorubas to rule the west.
When Zik went back to the Eastern region, the premier then was a minority, did Zik not kicked him out to take control of the Eastern region?.
Zik took a decision which he felt was good enough for his political ambition, did he not delayed the indendence of Southern Nigeria to make sure the north is also ready?.
Cross carpeting by the Yorubas is the reason Zik cornived with the north to remove mid west, Okuns and Igbominas from the SW map?.
I am personally happy that Zik pitch his tenth with the north, at least we can make reference to this, rather than Igbos making reference to how SW was once an Igbo colony, because the likes of Awo refused to open their eyes.

T9ksy:





My brother, please don't fall for the usual ibo's propaganda of calumny against Awo and the yorubas. There was no carpet crossings for the fact that Ncnc did not win that election. Ask them for the election result they predicate their lies on and you find them crawling back to their hamlet only to resurface later regurgitating the same fallacy without an iota of proof


@ bolded........actually this was the agreement between the 3 main protagonists to provide minority groups within each region (north, west and eastern regions) their own political identity withinthe new nation.

However, once awo (and his immediate close advisers) had been sent to jail by the NPC/NCNC govt on a trumped- up charge, both zik and the sardunna reneged on the agreement.

It's instructive to note also that the 1st premier of the new mid west region was another ibo man.

7lives:


Thank you for this wonderful information.

myobjective:


No it wasn't the British, it was the politics of hate and envy being practice newly created artificial African States.

Zik wanted everything that the Yorubas has been blessed with, be it deep coastal shore, huge civilization, Lagos, arable Interland etc.

horsepower101:


Totally agree.

ZZ22:
Before the civil war how powerful was the Fulani? The fact is Nigerian people handed over to Fulani after they connived with Fulani against Igbos and in turn what did Nigerians get as reward after their connivance with Fulani? a messed up country and a demonic constitution that has put Nigerians in chains and checks of the Caliphate.

T9ksy:

Hell no, I & ( by extension yorubas) have no problem with zik aligning with the murderers of his people simply 'cause he felt at home with them. Especially when we consider the result of zik's as.slicking TB's backside saw the ibos taking 90% of all ministerial posts earmarked for the south after their master ,the north have taken their fill which is a bit of a problem as the north don't have enough professionals to fill these posts. That was why at independence, our PM was a Grade II teacher whilst his sidekick was a PhD holder.

Another instance is education where ibos became VC in all the higher institutions in the yorubaland but could do the same in the north. This was at a time when yorubas were aggressively pursuing western education like it's going out of fashion. This was the same time when it's common to have at least one PhD holder among the ekitis.

The VCs promptly filled their academic staff with their kith and kins so much so that, yoruba graduates couldn't secure employment in their own region 'cause greedy ibos have the whole lot. I guess, this was the monopolisation zik talked about in 1949 at the one year anniversary of the Ibo State Union.

You guys are just incredible! I mean, you can understand when the sardunna claimed " North for north.........." but you can not fathom why the yorubas would want one of their own to manage her affairs. I make bold to suggest that had zik won that regional election in western Nigeria, ibos would have done exactly as they did in the 1st republic- take most of the jobs available in the region..

Ibos' main grouse with Awo is 'cause they were made to believe by their scheming mischievous leaders that it was pa Awo that scuppered their ambition in taking over their adversary's region. However, the truth is NCNC did not win that election in question. NCNC did not even campaign in the north never mind the chance of becoming premier there. He knew what would become of his people had they attempted such a strategy.

Yeah, of course, zik was a true Nigerian.........as long as his people have the rein of power in the country but unfortunately no one wants to be
under the tutelage of the covetous folks.


Ol' boy, stop making excuses for your slave master. Nothing transpired in the north of the country without the knowledge and acceptance of the sardunna. Sardunna's indigenisation policy put paid to zik's One Nigeria. His BBC interview which you guys termed hate speech was meant to protect his people , land, culture etc from been over-run by the ibos