rationalmind:


We can............. By opening ijamcustoms

legalwealth:


No need for ijamcustoms, IJAM Autos could cover and handle that .

rationalmind:


Ok sir

Openbusiness:


You're very correct sir, this is the main problem I see with the OP's agent. His agreement with customer was to clear car with full duty and this is what he charged for. Then why did he clear through the back door? I know someone that paid 4m duty for his 2015 Corolla last year, total clearing costs around 4.7m, because he said he doesn't want customs wahala as he was going to be travelling with the car to Benin from Lagos on a regular basis. How can it now be that a 2014 GX460 would be cleared for N2.750m? That's the magic I want to learn about in this thread and waiting for the OP agent to explain himself. N2.750m can only be back door clearing or undervaluation clearing. The OP has no fault at all in this matter. The clearing agent has a lot of explaining to do as to why he chose to clear through back door when your customer already said he wants full duty clearing. That is a breach of agreement and trust, and ended up creating problems for himself. Customs are not smiling under this new CG Ali. They have been so bold and daring like going to expensive hotels to seize cars, shutting down car dealerships to check their papers for correct duty, and even closing the borders. Even big men are hiding from customs now And ember months are here, where customs start to show their power on expensive cars they see on the highways.

222Martins:
So the 2014 GX460 i pre-ordered from Manheim through KakakiAutos since July finally arrived this November 2019. You can see the thread here: https://www.nairaland.com/5281450/experience-buying-2014-lexus-gx460

KakakiAutos recommended AdexFem as the t to another business that offers complimentary service.[/b]

legalwealth:


Can't we work out a system that won't need settlement or bribe to be given in this clearing niche?

rationalmind:


We can............. By opening ijamcustoms

omonla10:
u can ckear a car with nothing sef. But the question is, can u afford such duty.. For example, the said car should pay compromise duty of 2.56 million naira.. Now The normal duty will be a minimum of 4million where u won't have to settle anybody.

legalwealth:


Clearing with nothing using forging method by editing customs document/paper of existing similar car on their database is what you are talking about right? Isn't that crime?

Some people will still be willing to pay the said 4 million naira but let us leave that aside for now. I think that FG needs to reduce the customs fees, rates and charges, make the process of clearing vehicles as easy and transparent as possible.

For example, reasonable flat rate of so so amount should be for publicly noted for Mercedes benz S550 2010 either salvage, accidented or clean title while that of brand new of the same model and year if available should be slightly different fixed amount.

Not that they don't even know what to do but for selfish reasons, they allow the system not to be transparent. Bribery and corruption being allowed and nursed have been the order of the days in that aspect of clearing vehicles.

I pray that we will be able to fix those things one day because contents of threads like this say alot about Nigeria and its citizens. Imagine seeing some toddlers and boys calling themselves guys and men supporting and giving lame excuses for frauds and scams.

legalwealth:


Clearing with nothing using forging method by editing customs document/paper of existing similar car on their database is what you are talking about right? Isn't that crime?

Some people will still be willing to pay the said 4 million naira but let us leave that aside for now. I think that FG needs to reduce the customs fees, rates and charges, make the process of clearing vehicles as easy and transparent as possible.

For example, reasonable flat rate of so so amount should be for publicly noted for Mercedes benz S550 2010 either salvage, accidented or clean title while that of brand new of the same model and year if available should have slightly different fixed amount.

Not that they don't even know what to do but for selfish reasons, they allow the system not to be transparent. Bribery and corruption being allowed and nursed have been the order of the days in that aspect of clearing vehicles.

I pray that we will be able to fix those things one day because contents of threads like this say alot about Nigeria and its citizens. Imagine seeing some toddlers and boys calling themselves guys and men supporting and giving lame excuses for frauds and scams.

Openbusiness:


That's the center of the problem, lack of government transparency and accountability. Government services are never transparent and always leave enough room for manipulation, bribe and fraud because that's how the government or government officials want things to be done, so their pockets can always be full of money extorted from the public willingly or otherwise. For example, go to different vehicle licensing offices and tell them you want to register a new plate number for your car, you will discover that for the same car they will charge you different prices, and these licensing offices are under the same government, yet there is discrepancy. Some will tell you 45k, some will say 50k, some will say 42k, some will say 48k. And this is the direct source, not even agent or middleman. Imagine you send 2 people to go register 2 cars for you at different licensing centers and one came back and told you he did it for 42k and the other one came back and said he did his own for 47k, if you don't know what the system on ground is like, you will call the second person a fraud, that he cheated you but is he really a fraud? So lack of government transparency is what is creating all these problems.

radautoworks:


Exactly. Brought in a pre-owned forklift that we paid $4,500 for. Provided them receipt, they said according to "their book" it was worth $22,000. 20 year old forklift kwa Show us the book na, they said the book was private government property

I refuse pay bribe na so I pay taxes on $22k collect my receipt. I'd rather do that then give one unearned kobo to an embarrassment to this country. At least nobody can come and harass me again about duty.

I understand though that not everyone has that luxury.

legalwealth:


Clearing with nothing using forging method by editing customs document/paper of existing similar car on their database is what you are talking about right? Isn't that crime?

Some people will still be willing to pay the said 4 million naira but let us leave that aside for now. I think that FG needs to reduce the customs fees, rates and charges, make the process of clearing vehicles as easy and transparent as possible.

For example, reasonable flat rate of so so amount should be for publicly noted for Mercedes benz S550 2010 either salvage, accidented or clean title while that of brand new of the same model and year if available should have slightly different fixed amount.

Not that they don't even know what to do but for selfish reasons, they allow the system not to be transparent. Bribery and corruption being allowed and nursed have been the order of the days in that aspect of clearing vehicles.

I pray that we will be able to fix those things one day because contents of threads like this say alot about Nigeria and its citizens. Imagine seeing some toddlers and boys calling themselves guys and men supporting and giving lame excuses for frauds and scams.

omonla10:
I don't really know about ur 1st paragraph.. But in reply to the other paragraphs, the problem is The Nigerian factor.. Nigerians love cutting corners.. Leave customs and agents out of this.. From nepa bills, to taxes, levies and other bills. Nigerians love cutting corners. Some don't even pay for their electricity bills and lawma.. If customs start this ur method, Nigerians will be d first to protest it..
This morning, I collected a document owned by a high ranking navy official.. He told me he's coming to d port to get low duties with his influence as a high ranking official.. What stops him from paying legit duty? It's a viscous cycle bro

legalwealth:


What I said in the first paragraph is 100% real. They address it like "ge paper fun moto"; you can read up https://www.nairaland.com/4911746/read-why-how-car-almost and https://www.nairaland.com/4798019/distress-sale-2017-honda-accord to see things and as well learn more forging of customs duty/paper.

Bribery and corruption from our so-called leaders and we citizens are what you just validated just as I earlier pointed them out.

omonla10:
I perfectly understand what u said but I don't do it and can't advise even my enemy to do it.. We talking about legit clearing here..

222Martins:
I have been very angry since yesterday but reading the comments of some Nairaland members just got me laughing out loud. The attacks and counter attacks.

Please for the record, KakakiAutos is not to blame in anyway for this. He delivered on his promise despite all the hurdles we experience during the buying process. There's no harm in recommending your client to another business that offers complimentary service.



You have said it all. Cars that Acceptable Duty was paid on were allowed to go at the custom checkpoints after settling like N2k or N3k. But this guys were just adamant and refused all our diplomatic approach. We even offered N50k after spending over 3hrs there but they still refused to shift grounds from their N200k demand and this was just the 4th checkpoint when we know quite well that there are over 7 more custom checkpoints to go.

We were given an assessment duty of N1.440M to go pay into the customs account at the bank. My boys told me to sit back and allowed them resolve the issue themselves. God willing, the car will be released to them any moment from now.

To all those that reached out to me, offered advice on this thread and wished me well; i say thank you. May help not be far from you in your time of need.

To KakakiAutos, YOU ARE A MAN!! You promised and you delivered. I never lost sleep for one minute because you carried me along. Even on some issues that seem irrelevant, you still kept me informed. Thank You.

As for AdexFem, FULL DISCLOSURE was your undoing. Of the N850K balance left after you paid N1.9M to customs. Let me assume you paid N100k for shipping and terminal charges; and your agent fee is N200k. Y[b]ou should have about N550k left unaccounted for[/b].............. I won't say anything here for now but bear it in mind that it is not every bone you can swallow and go scot free; some will choke you.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

rationalmind:


No, we cant absolve him. This sounds to me like he's culpable.

"Using AdexFem will cost you more than other agents because Adexfem pays full duty on cars he clears, unlike other agents that cut corners."

A conspiracy theorists can even argue both of them work together. Adexfem short pays and shares proceeds with Kakakibuy.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

adexfem:



Dear Sir, we are sorry you were not properly guided during the transaction, kindly accept our apologies.

Considering the amount your boys used to grease their palms, before the duty was reduced from N1.440M to 640k, you should have an idea of how the ''unaccounted figure'' was spent.

Our milk teeth cannot even break any bone.

Once again, our sincere apologies for all the inconveniences we might have caused.
Congratulations on your new ride.

omonla10:
verify papers with 500 naira