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Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by maximunimpact(m): 2:57pm On Nov 29, 2019
Maximus69:


All you need to do is just calm down and ask the questions to know why adherents are zealously and industriously preaching and teaching without let up Sir!

There was no controversy in 1914!

When people were listening to Jesus' speech in the open, many often get confused because he utters so much in parables! Matthew 13:3-34

It takes his closest confidants extra effort to grasp the point he was making! Matthew 13:10

Please are you talking about this same Jesus here or another person? Hebrew 13:8 cheesy

Well the Judgment actually began in 1914, Jesus became king in heaven, drove Satan and his demons away from there, invisibly he visited all the religious groups claiming Christians on earth and he chose the one and only group that's WILLING TO IMPROVE IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF GOD'S WORD {Luke 18:8} remember that this was how Jesus got his followers in the first century, he never worry those who taught their religion is OK, he concentrated on the common people who are willing to make changes in their religious beliefs!

This group Jesus chose and started dealing with them until today! Remember Jesus said all those who failed to exercise faith in him ARE JUDGE ALREADY! John 3:18

So right from 1914 (when this Jesus returned to instruct his chosen group on the way forward) any other religious group you may belong, will continue to go down regarding the focus of all others {John 3:25-30} while the one Jesus chose will start gaining ground even though they're the most vilified! Matthew 5:14-16
Today you can check all social media try to see which religious group is most spoken of even when people vilify them, note the comments of critics, they are expecting more from Jehovah's Witnesses when they are keeping their own religions underground! You've been trying to argue for over a week now yet your religion remains anonymous. You may claim you belong to Jesus, but everyone knows that there are so many false religions (many even included JWs as false) so where do you associate with fellow believers if not just one of those false religions claiming Christians? cheesy

Well the Judgment began in 1914 and ever since then, Jesus has been purifying his organization that's why you see that of all the religions claiming Christians today, only Jehovah's Witnesses have made rapid changes in their understanding of God's word!

Do you think it's just man made?

Well if you're thinking so, please consider reading the Bible book of Galatians 5:22-23 again but this time PRAYERFULLY, then compare what you read to Matthew 7:15-20

Let all of them continue claiming Christians, Jesus' group cannot be buried amongst them just like their kinds they hypocritically calls denominations!

All Christians must have the same line of thought regarding sensitive issues! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

So stop wasting precious times with religious groups that can't distinct themselves from indecisive individuals claiming they belong to a commander (Jesus) whose army must stand as one and move together as a military force! John 17:20-23 smiley

Continuation....

If the words that Daniel was told to write down "are made secret and sealed up until the time of the end," can we expect anyone to correctly understand them before Jehovah's appointed time? Jesus' disciples were eager to get to know about these things, having been familiar with Daniel's prophecies, and yet Jesus told them:

"It is not for you to become acquainted with and know what time brings [the things and events of time and their definite periods] or fixed years and seasons (their critical niche in time), which the Father has appointed (fixed and reserved) by His own choice and authority and personal power." (Acts 1:7, Amplified Bible)

Clearly, there are things concerning God's prophecies that we will not understand before God's due time. It is not for us to become acquainted with them ahead of that time. Or, as the New World Translation puts it, "It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."

Just as Jesus' disciples were eager to get knowledge of these things so too countless others throughout the centuries since then, have tried to decipher the secret and sealed words of God. Often they professed to have been granted special insight by God to do so. Many succeeded in gathering large followings after themselves, but eventually time exposed them as frauds. It is in connection with prophecy that we are most vulnerable to fall victim to deceivers. That is why Jesus warned us against false prophets, for he said:

"False messiahs and false prophets will come and work great miracles and signs. They will even try to fool God's chosen ones. But I have warned you ahead of time." (Matthew 24:24-25 CEV)

The apostle Peter adds further words of warning:

1But there were also lying prophets among the people then, just as there will be lying religious teachers among you. They'll smuggle in destructive divisions, pitting you against each other--biting the hand of the One who gave them a chance to have their lives back! They've put themselves on a fast downhill slide to destruction, 2but not before they recruit a crowd of mixed-up followers who can't tell right from wrong.

They give the way of truth a bad name. 3They're only out for themselves. They'll say anything, anything, that sounds good to exploit you. They won't, of course, get by with it. They'll come to a bad end, for God has never just stood by and let that kind of thing go on. (2 Peter 2:1-3, The Message)

Interesting way the Message Bible words it. Yes, there will be lying prophets, lying religious leaders among us. It takes time to expose a false prophet, for it takes time to prove that their false predictions were just their imagination, as they failed to materialize. Many feel that it is a good thing to try to unravel the secrets of the future as written in God's word. Their need to know shows great spirituality. But for every hundred who interpret the hidden things of God's word there are a hundred differing interpretations. Jehovah has "made secret and sealed up" his words for a reason. As Jesus said, "it does not belong to us" to understand the things God "has placed in his own jurisdiction." Why has Jehovah seen fit to do it this way? Besides deciding to keep some things to himself, as was the case with the identity of the seed, it could also serve as a test for us. (see Deuteronomy 13:1-3)

Will we put faith in those who present themselves as having special insight into God's word, claiming to understand details that God has hidden from everyone else? Will it blind us to the things God actually does tell us? Are we to be dependant on any one person to understand God's word? Has Jehovah chosen anyone special to whom he would reveal matters that he would keep secret from his other servants? There have always been some who presumed to speak in Jehovah's name, causing his people to wander because their message was not from him. (note Jeremiah 23:30-32; 27:14)

The book of Revelation particularly attracts much attention among calculating interpreters. It contains much in the way of symbolisms that many feel can be unlocked if only one digs deep enough into it.

"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John. . .
Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near." (Revelation 1:1,3)

Since it says that those who read aloud and hear and observe the things written in this prophecy are happy, are we to conclude that we must understand it? No, for the revelation consists of the two types of prophecies I have been considering. To observe the things written in it refers primarily to Jesus' letters to the seven congregations. In them he mentions some serious problems which needed addressing if his disciples were to receive the crown of life. (Revelation 2:1-3:22) When you read those letters you will see that they are not written in signs but rather straight forward language that his followers could understand. They had to be able to understand them for their everlasting reward depended on acting on them. This is like the first type of prophecy mentioned above. But for the most part the book of Revelation is about what God is going to do in the future. There is nothing we can do to influence that outcome. And there is nothing written in it that we need to understand in order to act that has not already been recorded elsewhere in the Bible. For example, we do not need to understand the identity of the beast with the number 666 in order to avoid receiving its mark. (Revelation 13:17,18) James already clearly explained that the "the form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world." (James 1:27; John 15:18,19)

The book of Revelation is designed to give us hope. In it Jehovah brings all his promises together, as an assurance that his word is faithful and reliable, and he will do exactly as he has foretold. But the details of how he will go about carrying out his word he has seen fit to keep secret, until the time of their being fulfilled. As has already been mentioned earlier, the command to get out of Babylon the Great is clear enough. The description of her helps us to identify her. Therefore, it is disturbing to see so many different explanations of what Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots, is thought to be. Since we are commanded to get out of her in order to avoid sharing in her fate, failing to recognize and apply what God says about her identity could cost us our life, for how can we obey if we are confused about her identity? Listening to false interpretations can prove disastrous.

Jehovah's prophets have always desired to understand the things they were inspired to write about, making "a careful search" and "investigating what particular season or what sort of season" God was indicating to them. Yet, all that Jehovah would reveal to these prophets was that their prophecies did not involve them, prophecies that even the angels desire to peer into. (1 Peter 1:10-12 NWT) When the time comes for God to act on his "secret and sealed up" prophecies, and we come face to face with their fulfillment, then we will all be able to understand. All of us. Even the angels have to wait until then, and then there will be no need for Jehovah to raise up any individual prophet to explain and interpret what is happening. The apostle Paul looked forward to a future time when we would understand all things:

"For now we are looking in a mirror that gives only a dim (blurred) reflection [of reality as in a riddle or enigma], but then [when perfection comes] we shall see in reality and face to face! Now I know in part (imperfectly), but then I shall know and understand fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have been fully and clearly known and understood [by God]." (1 Corinthians 13:12, Amplified Bible)

It is hard to wait patiently, isn't it? We are inclined to look for anything that might give us some glimpse into the future. Anything that might give us an advantage. Perhaps we feel we would be better prepared for what lies ahead, or we need the encouragement to know how much longer until the end as we are trying to cope under severe living conditions. As the apostle Paul notes, "For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now." (Romans 8:22) But Jehovah has not revealed to any of us anything beyond what we need to know, and those are the things we need to act upon. What he is telling us is to exercise patience.

"Dear brothers and sisters, you must be patient as you wait for the Lord's return. Consider the farmers who eagerly look for the rains in the fall and in the spring. They patiently wait for the precious harvest to ripen. You, too, must be patient. And take courage, for the coming of the Lord is near." (James 5:7,8; New Living Translation)

In harmony with this, The Watchtower of July 15, 1976, pp. 433-434, under the heading "Keeping a Balanced View of Time" states: "So, when Jehovah God makes known a certain time for the outworking of some feature of his divine purpose, his faithful servants can rely implicitly on the exactness of the published schedule. But when he has not made such announcement, then it remains beyond their ability and power to determine the time of the realization of that purpose. That is the case with the timing of the outbreak of the “great tribulation” that God’s Son foretold, a time of divine judgment that opens the way for the start of the thousand-year Kingdom rule, which will bring untold blessings for this earth and its inhabitants.—Matt. 24:21, 22; Rev. 7:14-17.

Should we think it strange that God would retain certain knowledge for himself in this way? As far back as the time when the Israelites were approaching the Promised Land, the prophet Moses recorded these inspired words at Deuteronomy 29:29: “The things concealed belong to Jehovah our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons to time indefinite, that we may carry out all the words of this law.” Yes, all that we really need to know to serve Jehovah God faithfully, and that we need in order to sustain us in our hope and conviction, this, God reveals to us. But where it accomplishes his purpose better, he can also conceal matters, with no hurt or lack to his servants."

Accordingly, none among Jehovah's chosen, anointed ones today have any special insight into the detailed outworking of his prophecies that have been made secret and sealed up, as if such ones are specially blessed. God no longer uses prophets like he did in the time of Israel, for now he uses his Son to speak to us, and his words are recorded for us in the Bible. (Hebrews 1:1,2) To understand prophecy we can only be guided by what we see at present. C.T. Russell did that from 1879 until his death in 1916. Rutherford revised Russell's expectations in his time. The Society has continued to do the same over the years, revising interpretations according to present understandings based on present world situations, and revising again as these change.

But when our interpretation of prophecy fails to materialize does that not hurt our credibility and detract from the simple message we have been assigned by God to preach? Is it not also a matter of adding to God's Word things that he has not told us? Proverbs 30:6 warns: "Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar." If what we foretell about future events does not transpire the way we predicted, does that not make us liars? The Watchtower, September 1, 2005, under the heading "God's Word Safeguards the Congregation," on page 31, says, after quoting Proverbs 30:6: "Yes, those who tamper with the Bible are really spiritual liars—the most reprehensible liars of all!" This does not apply only to matters of doctrine but anything that is not taught by Jehovah in his Word. There is no such thing as a harmless lie. There are always eventual consequences. (John 8:44; Romans 3:4)

If Jehovah has "made secret and sealed up" certain prophecies, no one will be able to unlock the interpretation of them before God's due time. (2 Peter 1:20,21) And why has Jehovah kept his prophecies secret from us all? According to him:

3 I declared the past events long ago;
they came out of My mouth; I proclaimed them.
Suddenly I acted, and they occurred.
6 You have heard it. Observe it all.
Will you not acknowledge it?
From now on I will announce new things to you,
hidden things that you have not known.
7 They have been created now, and not long ago;
you have not heard of them before today,
so you could not claim, "I already knew them!" (Isaiah 48:3,6,7; Holman Christian Standard Bible)

http://perimeno.ca/Prophecy.htm#nothing

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Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 4:31pm On Nov 29, 2019
maximunimpact:


Continuation....

If the words that Daniel was told to write down "are made secret and sealed up until the time of the end," can we expect anyone to correctly understand them before Jehovah's appointed time? Jesus' disciples were eager to get to know about these things, having been familiar with Daniel's prophecies, and yet Jesus told them:

"It is not for you to become acquainted with and know what time brings [the things and events of time and their definite periods] or fixed years and seasons (their critical niche in time), which the Father has appointed (fixed and reserved) by His own choice and authority and personal power." (Acts 1:7, Amplified Bible)

Clearly, there are things concerning God's prophecies that we will not understand before God's due time. It is not for us to become acquainted with them ahead of that time. Or, as the New World Translation puts it, "It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons which the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction."

Just as Jesus' disciples were eager to get knowledge of these things so too countless others throughout the centuries since then, have tried to decipher the secret and sealed words of God. Often they professed to have been granted special insight by God to do so. Many succeeded in gathering large followings after themselves, but eventually time exposed them as frauds. It is in connection with prophecy that we are most vulnerable to fall victim to deceivers. That is why Jesus warned us against false prophets, for he said:

"False messiahs and false prophets will come and work great miracles and signs. They will even try to fool God's chosen ones. But I have warned you ahead of time." (Matthew 24:24-25 CEV)

The apostle Peter adds further words of warning:

1But there were also lying prophets among the people then, just as there will be lying religious teachers among you. They'll smuggle in destructive divisions, pitting you against each other--biting the hand of the One who gave them a chance to have their lives back! They've put themselves on a fast downhill slide to destruction, 2but not before they recruit a crowd of mixed-up followers who can't tell right from wrong.

They give the way of truth a bad name. 3They're only out for themselves. They'll say anything, anything, that sounds good to exploit you. They won't, of course, get by with it. They'll come to a bad end, for God has never just stood by and let that kind of thing go on. (2 Peter 2:1-3, The Message)

Interesting way the Message Bible words it. Yes, there will be lying prophets, lying religious leaders among us. It takes time to expose a false prophet, for it takes time to prove that their false predictions were just their imagination, as they failed to materialize. Many feel that it is a good thing to try to unravel the secrets of the future as written in God's word. Their need to know shows great spirituality. But for every hundred who interpret the hidden things of God's word there are a hundred differing interpretations. Jehovah has "made secret and sealed up" his words for a reason. As Jesus said, "it does not belong to us" to understand the things God "has placed in his own jurisdiction." Why has Jehovah seen fit to do it this way? Besides deciding to keep some things to himself, as was the case with the identity of the seed, it could also serve as a test for us. (see Deuteronomy 13:1-3)

Will we put faith in those who present themselves as having special insight into God's word, claiming to understand details that God has hidden from everyone else? Will it blind us to the things God actually does tell us? Are we to be dependant on any one person to understand God's word? Has Jehovah chosen anyone special to whom he would reveal matters that he would keep secret from his other servants? There have always been some who presumed to speak in Jehovah's name, causing his people to wander because their message was not from him. (note Jeremiah 23:30-32; 27:14)

The book of Revelation particularly attracts much attention among calculating interpreters. It contains much in the way of symbolisms that many feel can be unlocked if only one digs deep enough into it.

"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John. . .
Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near." (Revelation 1:1,3)

Since it says that those who read aloud and hear and observe the things written in this prophecy are happy, are we to conclude that we must understand it? No, for the revelation consists of the two types of prophecies I have been considering. To observe the things written in it refers primarily to Jesus' letters to the seven congregations. In them he mentions some serious problems which needed addressing if his disciples were to receive the crown of life. (Revelation 2:1-3:22) When you read those letters you will see that they are not written in signs but rather straight forward language that his followers could understand. They had to be able to understand them for their everlasting reward depended on acting on them. This is like the first type of prophecy mentioned above. But for the most part the book of Revelation is about what God is going to do in the future. There is nothing we can do to influence that outcome. And there is nothing written in it that we need to understand in order to act that has not already been recorded elsewhere in the Bible. For example, we do not need to understand the identity of the beast with the number 666 in order to avoid receiving its mark. (Revelation 13:17,18) James already clearly explained that the "the form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world." (James 1:27; John 15:18,19)

The book of Revelation is designed to give us hope. In it Jehovah brings all his promises together, as an assurance that his word is faithful and reliable, and he will do exactly as he has foretold. But the details of how he will go about carrying out his word he has seen fit to keep secret, until the time of their being fulfilled. As has already been mentioned earlier, the command to get out of Babylon the Great is clear enough. The description of her helps us to identify her. Therefore, it is disturbing to see so many different explanations of what Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots, is thought to be. Since we are commanded to get out of her in order to avoid sharing in her fate, failing to recognize and apply what God says about her identity could cost us our life, for how can we obey if we are confused about her identity? Listening to false interpretations can prove disastrous.

Jehovah's prophets have always desired to understand the things they were inspired to write about, making "a careful search" and "investigating what particular season or what sort of season" God was indicating to them. Yet, all that Jehovah would reveal to these prophets was that their prophecies did not involve them, prophecies that even the angels desire to peer into. (1 Peter 1:10-12 NWT) When the time comes for God to act on his "secret and sealed up" prophecies, and we come face to face with their fulfillment, then we will all be able to understand. All of us. Even the angels have to wait until then, and then there will be no need for Jehovah to raise up any individual prophet to explain and interpret what is happening. The apostle Paul looked forward to a future time when we would understand all things:

"For now we are looking in a mirror that gives only a dim (blurred) reflection [of reality as in a riddle or enigma], but then [when perfection comes] we shall see in reality and face to face! Now I know in part (imperfectly), but then I shall know and understand fully and clearly, even in the same manner as I have been fully and clearly known and understood [by God]." (1 Corinthians 13:12, Amplified Bible)

It is hard to wait patiently, isn't it? We are inclined to look for anything that might give us some glimpse into the future. Anything that might give us an advantage. Perhaps we feel we would be better prepared for what lies ahead, or we need the encouragement to know how much longer until the end as we are trying to cope under severe living conditions. As the apostle Paul notes, "For we know that all creation keeps on groaning together and being in pain together until now." (Romans 8:22) But Jehovah has not revealed to any of us anything beyond what we need to know, and those are the things we need to act upon. What he is telling us is to exercise patience.

"Dear brothers and sisters, you must be patient as you wait for the Lord's return. Consider the farmers who eagerly look for the rains in the fall and in the spring. They patiently wait for the precious harvest to ripen. You, too, must be patient. And take courage, for the coming of the Lord is near." (James 5:7,8; New Living Translation)

In harmony with this, The Watchtower of July 15, 1976, pp. 433-434, under the heading "Keeping a Balanced View of Time" states: "So, when Jehovah God makes known a certain time for the outworking of some feature of his divine purpose, his faithful servants can rely implicitly on the exactness of the published schedule. But when he has not made such announcement, then it remains beyond their ability and power to determine the time of the realization of that purpose. That is the case with the timing of the outbreak of the “great tribulation” that God’s Son foretold, a time of divine judgment that opens the way for the start of the thousand-year Kingdom rule, which will bring untold blessings for this earth and its inhabitants.—Matt. 24:21, 22; Rev. 7:14-17.

Should we think it strange that God would retain certain knowledge for himself in this way? As far back as the time when the Israelites were approaching the Promised Land, the prophet Moses recorded these inspired words at Deuteronomy 29:29: “The things concealed belong to Jehovah our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our sons to time indefinite, that we may carry out all the words of this law.” Yes, all that we really need to know to serve Jehovah God faithfully, and that we need in order to sustain us in our hope and conviction, this, God reveals to us. But where it accomplishes his purpose better, he can also conceal matters, with no hurt or lack to his servants."

Accordingly, none among Jehovah's chosen, anointed ones today have any special insight into the detailed outworking of his prophecies that have been made secret and sealed up, as if such ones are specially blessed. God no longer uses prophets like he did in the time of Israel, for now he uses his Son to speak to us, and his words are recorded for us in the Bible. (Hebrews 1:1,2) To understand prophecy we can only be guided by what we see at present. C.T. Russell did that from 1879 until his death in 1916. Rutherford revised Russell's expectations in his time. The Society has continued to do the same over the years, revising interpretations according to present understandings based on present world situations, and revising again as these change.

But when our interpretation of prophecy fails to materialize does that not hurt our credibility and detract from the simple message we have been assigned by God to preach? Is it not also a matter of adding to God's Word things that he has not told us? Proverbs 30:6 warns: "Add nothing to his words, that he may not reprove you, and that you may not have to be proved a liar." If what we foretell about future events does not transpire the way we predicted, does that not make us liars? The Watchtower, September 1, 2005, under the heading "God's Word Safeguards the Congregation," on page 31, says, after quoting Proverbs 30:6: "Yes, those who tamper with the Bible are really spiritual liars—the most reprehensible liars of all!" This does not apply only to matters of doctrine but anything that is not taught by Jehovah in his Word. There is no such thing as a harmless lie. There are always eventual consequences. (John 8:44; Romans 3:4)

If Jehovah has "made secret and sealed up" certain prophecies, no one will be able to unlock the interpretation of them before God's due time. (2 Peter 1:20,21) And why has Jehovah kept his prophecies secret from us all? According to him:

3 I declared the past events long ago;
they came out of My mouth; I proclaimed them.
Suddenly I acted, and they occurred.
6 You have heard it. Observe it all.
Will you not acknowledge it?
From now on I will announce new things to you,
hidden things that you have not known.
7 They have been created now, and not long ago;
you have not heard of them before today,
so you could not claim, "I already knew them!" (Isaiah 48:3,6,7; Holman Christian Standard Bible)

http://perimeno.ca/Prophecy.htm#nothing

Hmmmmmmmmm!

Do you read the Bible gospel accounts with meditation?

After considering the blunders and persistence of these first century Christians as they kept questioning Jesus about end time, do you still view their documents as something credible?

If after reading about their blunders, fears and doubts you still claim to believe in their write up, please what makes you feel they worth such credibility?

Are you just claiming you believe in their writings simply because they're no more and you don't want to be counted along with their enemies? Luke 11:47-48

Do you think all forms of worship claiming Christians today are worshipers of their God?

What do you say about their separation from other forms of worship during their own time?

Do you think there are faithful servants of God like them in your own time?

What makes you think they're equally faithful and loyal to the same God, if they can formed alliance with other different forms of worship claiming worshippers of their God? smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by baysol: 6:10am On Nov 30, 2019
maximunimpact:


I don't worship under pastors or governing body, they are one and the same. While pastors desperately want money, governing body of Jehovah's witnesses uses every trick to control the entirety of members life. And yes, watch tower predicted Armageddon in 1914 but it never happened...
Find and research the truth and the truth will set you free.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by baysol: 6:14am On Nov 30, 2019
maximunimpact:


In that case you are d ignorant fellow here, u fell for some bunch of Americans who told u they were selected as faithful and desecrate slave in 1919 based on Jesus coming in 1914 which never happened. Who is ignorant here?
I think your statement hardly make sense event to yourself. Find the truth not lazily and the truth will set you free. Read and meditate on the Bible for your salvation.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Hairyrapunzel: 7:46am On Nov 30, 2019
baysol:

Find and research the truth and the truth will set you free.

This one is busy waiting for armageddon so he can live forever on paradise earth. Lol you will so wait and finally die while waiting just like the rest. Na cycle. Cycle of stupidity since 1879
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 8:00am On Nov 30, 2019
baysol:

I think your statement hardly make sense event to yourself. Find the truth not lazily and the truth will set you free. Read and meditate on the Bible for your salvation.

Most people often imagine that it was easy for Jesus' followers to believe and acknowledge Jesus as the long awaited promised Messiah (Christ). Matthew 16:16

There were speculations and some Jewish zealots like Theudas and Judas each separately claimed to be the Messiah during the same period {Act 5:35-37} they gathered people who WILLINGLY OFFERED THEMSELVES to rebel against the Roman Empire just as the people expected of the Messiah {Psalms 101:1-3} but both of them were killed and their followers scattered!

However Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah publicly he was expecting the people to use their own discretion to grasp what's happening. Matthew 16:20

It was after Jesus' ascension to heaven that his followers began declaring publicly that the executed Jesus was the promised Messiah! Act 2:36, 3:16-18

Please was it easy to believe that this Jewish carpenter from Nazareth who never tackled the government nor fought a single battle is the expected Messiah (Christ) whom the people had been taught will come and rescue them from their enemies just like king David? Isaiah 9:6-7 undecided

Today Jesus has been around since 1914 and this group from America are asserting that this same Jesus is working ONLY in their midst , of course it can't be so easy for everyone to just agree with such saying. But if we carefully meditate on the signs that Jesus said would be SEEN in the midst of his true followers, i'm sure the TRUTH will become obvious!

Throughout the earth today, people are overwhelmed with nepotism and racism so there is nowhere people gathere to eradicate these two destructive weapons of Satan. Yet from all the nations under the heavens, this American group SUCCESSFULLY gathered over 8,500,000(still counting) people, uprooted discrimination and racism from their hearts, disarmed them and turn them to zealous and industrious preachers and teachers of the message of PEACE! Isaiah 2:1-4

Haba! Even if we have never heard or read anything concerning Jesus before, one should be concerned SERIOUSLY about what voodoo, charm, witchcraft or spell they used to perform such a miracle that Jesus himself NEVER performed during his lifetime on earth! {John 14:12} Because Jesus only prayed fervently to his heavenly father that such a thing should happen, he only envisaged it that it will happen if humans can come together to practice what he taught! John 17:20-23

In a world filled with violence, hatred and racial prejudice and discrimination, this American group have brought people NOT only their own people from America but from all the nations under the heavens to become peace loving worshippers who continued visiting their neighbors despite the hostility displayed against them by most religionists claiming Christians! Micah 4:1-3 compared to Malachi 3:16

Well Malachi said it all in a statement saying "when you see this happening, know that you've found those WORSHIPING the true God in the midst of a crooked generation that's NOT WORSHIPING him" Malachi 3:18 smiley

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Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by maximunimpact(m): 9:17am On Nov 30, 2019
baysol:

[s]I think your statement hardly make sense event to yourself. Find the truth not lazily and the truth will set you free. Read and meditate on the Bible for your salvation[/s].
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by maximunimpact(m): 9:20am On Nov 30, 2019
baysol:

[s]Find and research the truth and the truth will set you free[/s].
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 9:31am On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmm!

(1)Do you read the Bible gospel accounts with meditation?

(2)After considering the blunders and persistence of these first century Christians as they kept questioning Jesus about end time, do you still view their documents as something credible?

(3)If after reading about their blunders, fears and doubts you still claim to believe in their write up, please what makes you feel they worth such credibility?

(4)Are you just claiming you believe in their writings simply because they're no more and you don't want to be counted along with their enemies? Luke 11:47-48

(5)Do you think all forms of worship claiming Christians today are worshipers of their God?

(6)What do you say about their separation from other forms of worship during their own time?

(7)Do you think there are faithful servants of God like them in your own time?

(coolWhat makes you think they're equally faithful and loyal to the same God, if they can formed alliance with other different forms of worship claiming worshippers of their God? smiley


Eight questions in all!

Whoever attempt these questions with a SINCERE heart can't still speak ill of Jehovah's Witnesses again! undecided undecided undecided
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 9:51am On Nov 30, 2019
Maximus69:


Most people often imagine that it was easy for Jesus' followers to believe and acknowledge Jesus as the long awaited promised Messiah (Christ). Matthew 16:16

There were speculations and some Jewish zealots like Theudas and Judas each separately claimed to be the Messiah during the same period {Act 5:35-37} they gathered people who WILLINGLY OFFERED THEMSELVES to rebel against the Roman Empire just as the people expected of the Messiah {Psalms 101:1-3} but both of them were killed and their followers scattered!

However Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah publicly he was expecting the people to use their own discretion to grasp what's happening. Matthew 16:20

It was after Jesus' ascension to heaven that his followers began declaring publicly that the executed Jesus was the promised Messiah! Act 2:36, 3:16-18

Please was it easy to believe that this Jewish carpenter from Nazareth who never tackled the government nor fought a single battle is the expected Messiah (Christ) whom the people had been taught will come and rescue them from their enemies just like king David? Isaiah 9:6-7 undecided

Today Jesus has been around since 1914 and this group from America are asserting that this same Jesus is working ONLY in their midst , of course it can't be so easy for everyone to just agree with such saying. But if we carefully meditate on the signs that Jesus said would be SEEN in the midst of his true followers, i'm sure the TRUTH will become obvious!

Throughout the earth today, people are overwhelmed with nepotism and racism so there is nowhere people gathere to eradicate these two destructive weapons of Satan. Yet from all the nations under the heavens, this American group SUCCESSFULLY gathered over 8,500,000(still counting) people, uprooted discrimination and racism from their hearts, disarmed them and turn them to zealous and industrious preachers and teachers of the message of PEACE! Isaiah 2:1-4

Haba! Even if we have never heard or read anything concerning Jesus before, one should be concerned SERIOUSLY about what voodoo, charm, witchcraft or spell they used to perform such a miracle that Jesus himself NEVER performed during his lifetime on earth! {John 14:12} Because Jesus only prayed fervently to his heavenly father that such a thing should happen, he only envisaged it that it will happen if humans can come together to practice what he taught! John 17:20-23

In a world filled with violence, hatred and racial prejudice and discrimination, this American group have brought people NOT only their own people from America but from all the nations under the heavens to become peace loving worshippers who continued visiting their neighbors despite the hostility displayed against them by most religionists claiming Christians! Micah 4:1-3 compared to Malachi 3:16

Well Malachi said it all in a statement saying "when you see this happening, know that you've found those WORSHIPING the true God in the midst of a crooked generation that's NOT WORSHIPING him" Malachi 3:18 smiley

Certainly there is an unseen mighty spirit being backing those American! embarassed embarassed embarassed

Jesus did so much WORKS and observers were divided regarding who is backing his WORKS, contemporary religionists said it is Beelzebub (Satan)! Matthew 12:24-27

Many common people concluded that it's God. John 10:41,42


The later said Jesus' works portrayed no attribute of Satan but of the one and only true God! Matthew 16:16, John 6:68,69

Those Americans have proved to be WIZARDS as in GENIUSES in what they set out to do, they made several mistakes just like all the prophets ever mentioned in the Bible.
But they've done an undeniable excellent job! undecided undecided undecided
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 10:17am On Nov 30, 2019
TATIME:


Eight questions in all!

Whoever attempt these questions with a SINCERE heart can't still speak ill of Jehovah's Witnesses again! undecided undecided undecided

Thanks brother Tatime!

maximumimpact said Jehovah's Witnesses should view other Christians (those having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings) as worshipers of their own God.
These religionists can't even organize, unite their own followers for orderliness. They claimed they're all worshiping the same God yet their form of judicial decisions vary! embarassed

Yet he claims to believe the Bible, whose inspired writers

©he never witness their activities face to face.
©refuted the idea of worshiping the same God with contemporary religionists.
©committed several blunders and penned it all down for him to read it.
©succeeded in achieving things that attracted minority in their own time.
©were accused of been gullible just as he is saying about Jehovah's Witnesses.

Walahi Talahi hypocrisy can truly blur people's senses! cheesy
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 11:33am On Nov 30, 2019
TATIME:


Certainly there is an unseen mighty spirit being backing those American! embarassed embarassed embarassed

Jesus did so much WORKS and observers were divided regarding who is backing his WORKS, contemporary religionists said it is Beelzebub (Satan)! Matthew 12:24-27

Many common people concluded that it's God. John 10:41,42


The later said Jesus' works portrayed no attribute of Satan but of the one and only true God! Matthew 16:16, John 6:68,69

Those Americans have proved to be WIZARDS as in GENIUSES in what they set out to do, they made several mistakes just like all the prophets ever mentioned in the Bible.
But they've done an undeniable excellent job! undecided undecided undecided

Isn't it preposterous that most people are blind to their FINE WORKS?

Instead of considering what they're able to achieve in less than a century, crooked minded critics are trying to bury their FINE WORKS saying Jehovah's Witnesses are equal to Churches that have been existing for more than a millennium but have failed woefully to unite their adherents! undecided

That's why i'm asking all of them to present one ancient prophet and Bible writer who committed NO blunders.

Funny enough critics will say they believe in Jesus who wrote not a single word whether when he was here physically or when he returned to the spirit realms. Everything we read about Jesus of Nazareth was penned down by humans who committed several blunders.

So my question is
'what makes them believe in the WRITINGS of those imperfect men, but turned them against those they're seeing in their own time performing FINE WORKS?' cheesy
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 3:06pm On Dec 09, 2019
[quote author=maximunimpact post=84492843][/quote]
You definitely hate the truth. No bondage can be higher than this. I give up on your life of denial.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 3:17pm On Dec 09, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


This one is busy waiting for armageddon so he can live forever on paradise earth. Lol you will so wait and finally die while waiting just like the rest. Na cycle. Cycle of stupidity since 1879
It shows you don't read the bible at all you are only contented with what your pastor read to you on sunday to scam you of you hard earned money. Any way find out how these Bible verses can apply in your life and realign your life with God's plan for all faithfully humans. Read John 17:3, Revelation 21: 2-4. Find out not from your pastors but from a neutral well knowledgeable JW what verse 2 means for the the people of the earth. I think this way you can make an informed decision. Wish you God blessings.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2019
maximunimpact:


What's your point exactly?
Only for the wise.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by maximunimpact(m): 3:55pm On Dec 09, 2019
nogragra:

You definitely hate the truth. No bondage can be higher than this. I give up on your life of denial.

You are the one the truth is staring in the face but chose to believe your governing body instead of the bible
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 4:49pm On Dec 09, 2019
nogragra:

Only for the wise.

Hmmmmmmmmm

Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you oooooo!

YES, The wise will GATHER! Luke 17:37
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 5:25pm On Dec 09, 2019
maximunimpact:


You are the one the truth is staring in the face but chose to believe your governing body instead of the bible

Perhaps he is also one of STUPID ones like me who chose to GATHER where we can SEE the BODY! Luke 17:37

My friend if you're expecting him to say GOVERNING BODY, you're deceiving yourself!

Walahi Talahi Jesus is truly a wonderful counselor! cheesy
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Hairyrapunzel: 9:40pm On Dec 09, 2019
nogragra:

It shows you don't read the bible at all you are only contented with what your pastor read to you on sunday to scam you of you hard earned money. Any way find out how these Bible verses can apply in your life and realign your life with God's plan for all faithfully humans. Read John 17:3, Revelation 21: 2-4. Find out not from your pastors but from a neutral well knowledgeable JW what verse 2 means for the the people of the earth. I think this way you can make an informed decision. Wish you God blessings.

If you like o muddle up verses. No jehovah is coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter/commit genocide of wicked/worldly/unrighteous/pagans/evil /non jws because they refused to join watchtower organisation and accept that governing body are the only channel of communication between God and man today so jws can live forever on paradise earth.


The only place it will happen is inside your head/imagination. Last last na still cycle of stupidity.

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Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Hairyrapunzel: 9:43pm On Dec 09, 2019
Maximus69:


Perhaps he is also one of STUPID ones like me who chose to GATHER where we can SEE the BODY! Luke 17:37

My friend if you're expecting him to say GOVERNING BODY, you're deceiving yourself!

Walahi Talahi Jesus is truly a wonderful counselor! cheesy

You for kuku tell us that your gb is the only channel of communication between God and man today and you must worship your jehovah through this channel because gb said so.

Lol
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 9:52pm On Dec 09, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


You for kuku tell us that your gb is the only channel of communication between God and man today and you must worship your jehovah through this channel because gb said so.

Lol

You done return from market? undecided

You're welcome Sir! cheesy
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 8:36am On Dec 10, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


If you like o muddle up verses. No jehovah is coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter/commit genocide of wicked/worldly/unrighteous/pagans/evil /non jws because they refused to join watchtower organisation and accept that governing body are the only channel of communication between God and man today so jws can live forever on paradise earth.


The only place it will happen is inside your head/imagination. Last last na still cycle of stupidity.
your case is simply ignorance and lack of fear of God. May you not realize the truth when it is too late. Half word is only for the wise. I rest my case.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 8:53am On Dec 10, 2019
maximunimpact:


You are the one the truth is staring in the face but chose to believe your governing body instead of the bible
What is your problem with the governing body that organised the most truthful religious body in the world today with the highest number of publications, world most translated website, preaching work and bible studies, number language translations (1000 languages), shedding more lights on the truth that has been hidden from you and many in the world today. Can these be said of the money changing pastors who fly executive jets at your expense and leave you in abject spiritual poverty? See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all (Deuteronomy 30:19-20).
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Hairyrapunzel: 8:56am On Dec 10, 2019
nogragra:

your case is simply ignorance and lack of fear of God. May you not realize the truth when it is too late. Half word is only for the wise. I rest my case.

You will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting for armageddon. It's a cycle.

You will wait for another 140 years. All of a sudden the truth is now jehovah coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter people who don't believe some self appointed men in new York who call themselves gb or faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because they (gb) say so and you as humans are supposed to worship God through this channel (gb) to survive the upcoming destruction.


I will continue to laugh at you. There is no truth in the above and it will never be late. It's only your imagination and in your watchtower magazines it will come to pass.

Continue to threaten your self and continue living in fear because human beings like you told you that you must worship God through them to survive upcoming armageddon inside their head.


If I ask you to show me a bible verse that supports their claim you wont find. So till you find a bible verse you are waiting for nothing and will continue to wait for nothing till you die.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Nobody: 8:58am On Dec 10, 2019
nogragra:

your case is simply ignorance and lack of fear of God. May you not realize the truth when it is too late. Half word is only for the wise. I rest my case.

He was disfellowshiped!

So he's bent on tarnishing the image of the GOVERNING BODY so that all of Jehovah's sheep could become fugitives like himself! cheesy
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by Hairyrapunzel: 9:03am On Dec 10, 2019
nogragra:

What is your problem with the governing body that organised the most truthful religious body in the world today with the highest number of publications, world most translated website, preaching work and bible studies, number language translations (1000 languages), shedding more lights on the truth that has been hidden from you and many in the world today. Can these be said of the money changing pastors who fly executive jets at your expense and leave you in abject spiritual poverty? See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all.

Show us bible verse that supports their claims. Las last they are still the same as pastors that fly executive jets. Lol

Your nathan knorr used to fly first class and will put a bag on the next chair so that worldly people wont sit close to him cos he thought they where going to die in the upcoming armageddon in 1975. Guess what? He is dead and buried 6ft under.


Your governing body fly first class, have servants, drive in expensive cars, wear expensive clothes and wrist watches just like those pastors you talk about. They are same thing.

Google can do what you claim. Lol
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 9:11am On Dec 10, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


You will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting for armageddon. It's a cycle.

You will wait for another 140 years. All of a sudden the truth is now jehovah coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter people who don't believe some self appointed men in new York who call themselves gb or faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because they (gb) say so and you as humans are supposed to worship God through this channel (gb) to survive the upcoming destruction.


I will continue to laugh at you. There is no truth in the above and it will never be late. It's only your imagination and in your watchtower magazines it will come to pass.

Continue to threaten your self and continue living in fear because human beings like you told you that you must worship God through them to survive upcoming armageddon inside their head.


If I ask you to show me a bible verse that supports their claim you wont find. So till you find a bible verse you are waiting for nothing and will continue to wait for nothing till you die.
With due respect, all you have just said is not based on the truth. They are fallacies and postulations based on worldly knowledge not according to the unattainable knowledge of Jehovah the all mighty (John 17:3).
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 9:30am On Dec 10, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


Show us bible verse that supports their claims. Las last they are still the same as pastors that fly executive jets. Lol

Your nathan knorr used to fly first class and will put a bag on the next chair so that worldly people wont sit close to him cos he thought they where going to die in the upcoming armageddon in 1975. Guess what? He is dead and buried 6ft under.


Your governing body fly first class, have servants, drive in expensive cars, wear expensive clothes and wrist watches just like those pastors you talk about. They are same thing.

Google can do what you claim. Lol
I have already given you Revelation 21:2-4 but am not sure you actually read it. Here you go, read Isaiah 43:10 & 12, Isaiah 44:8, Revelations 21:1-5, Acts 23:6-8, Acts 17:32, 1 Corinthians 15:12-19, Revelation 2:7.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 9:34am On Dec 10, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


Show us bible verse that supports their claims. Las last they are still the same as pastors that fly executive jets. Lol

Your nathan knorr used to fly first class and will put a bag on the next chair so that worldly people wont sit close to him cos he thought they where going to die in the upcoming armageddon in 1975. Guess what? He is dead and buried 6ft under.


Your governing body fly first class, have servants, drive in expensive cars, wear expensive clothes and wrist watches just like those pastors you talk about. They are same thing.

Google can do what you claim. Lol
Google is not even religious, but commercial and cannot even boast of anything near 1000 Languages. It is not something you just attain without the help of God. Other churches are richer than JW that rely only on voluntary contributions, but cannot achieve these in a life time- by their fruitage shall you know them. Even if you attain it for record purposes the question is can it be sustained like JW has been doing in their publications, preaching, and now hardly 20 years old website?
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 9:43am On Dec 10, 2019
Maximus69:


He was disfellowshiped!

So he's bent on tarnishing the image of the GOVERNING BODY so that all of Jehovah's sheep could become fugitives like himself! cheesy
May be that is why he's so much against them. No problem he can make a choice between their pastor DADDYS and Jehovah the almighty God. Don't we all have a choice to make in this world of imperfection we're all in?
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 10:01am On Dec 10, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


You will still die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting for armageddon. It's a cycle.

You will wait for another 140 years. All of a sudden the truth is now jehovah coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter people who don't believe some self appointed men in new York who call themselves gb or faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because they (gb) say so and you as humans are supposed to worship God through this channel (gb) to survive the upcoming destruction.


I will continue to laugh at you. There is no truth in the above and it will never be late. It's only your imagination and in your watchtower magazines it will come to pass.

Continue to threaten your self and continue living in fear because human beings like you told you that you must worship God through them to survive upcoming armageddon inside their head.


If I ask you to show me a bible verse that supports their claim you wont find. So till you find a bible verse you are waiting for nothing and will continue to wait for nothing till you die.
For your information and enlightenment, when Jesus told the other accused person, that Today, he will meet him in paradise, what does he mean? Remember, a day before JEHOVAH GOD, is like a thousand years on earth. JESUS HIMSELF DID NOT ASCEND TO HEAVEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIS RESURRECTION ON THE THIRD DAY. SO HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT A LITERARY EARTHLY DAY. THINK ABOUT THIS AND TALK TO JEHOVAH'S WITTINESS AROUND YOUR AREA TO SHED MORE LIGHT OF THE TRUTH FOR YOU.
Re: Why Jehovah's Witnesses Are The Most United And Peaceful Religion In The World by nogragra: 10:20am On Dec 10, 2019
Maximus69:


Perhaps he is also one of STUPID ones like me who chose to GATHER where we can SEE the BODY! Luke 17:37

My friend if you're expecting him to say GOVERNING BODY, you're deceiving yourself!

Walahi Talahi Jesus is truly a wonderful counselor! cheesy
You're probably a Muslim coming here for knowledge, that's fair enough. However we don't seems to get the same opportunity with your Muslim website, no disrespect, as you want us to swear to something we do not know. We only know Jehovah God and it is to Him alone we swear allegiance, not under duress to any god.

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