Squillaci:

Hahaha. Even linguist do research.
I am talking about real research. Like the people that come up with the drugs. Or the neuroscientists that help shape the field of psychiatry.
I don't mean research like "effect of olazanpine on bdnf levels".
Scientist my arse.

Squillaci:

Hahaha. Even linguist do research.
I am talking about real research. Like the people that come up with the drugs. Or the neuroscientists that help shape the field of psychiatry.
I don't mean research like "effect of olazanpine on bdnf levels".
Scientist my arse.

maestroferddi:
I am a trained engineer.

We are known to solve problems without making noises and trying to milk adulations for the sake of it.

Now you have it...

helpee:
you actually make me laugh. Of course you don't make noises until the houses collapse and most roads get spoilt after a single okada passes through them? Do you know that the singular reason why Nigeria is lacking in infrastructure is because our engineers are docile and rather than think through next way to construct a subway through the busy Lagos metropolis and solve our transportation problem, they are busy looking for doctors to bash online. If people like you are doing your job, the so called doctors will have equipment to work with rather than than looking for millions of dollars to buy CT SCAN. Anyway, most nigerian engineers end up in a village secondary school teaching physics so they won't even realise they have failed the nation.

Emmaxy9:


I still don't get your point. You say Nigerian doctors do misdiagnose or apply wrong treatments causing death, but do you think everyone is perfect.I would like to see you study medicine and treat everyone perfect without taking a life during your career.
Another funny thing you said is that Nigerian doctors have empty nut heads. Please I'm begging you, there's no age limit in which one can be a doctor, you can enroll in a medical school and study it for yourself, thats only if you make it to the admission list.

For your information, doctors spend 6 years in medical school. They begin to read Anatomy, Physiology and Biochemistry which are all individual courses on their own under a duration of 1 and half years, after which they write their professional exams. More than half of the class fail out, while the good ones remain. Mind you its only the best of secondary schools that get to study Medicine.
Thats not the end. They keep on writing professional exams until graduation.can you do that?

I'm not saying all doctors are geniuses that cant make mistakes. All I'm saying is that it's not easy, so don't come here to showcase your senselessness.

maestroferddi:
I don't waste my energy bandying words with rustics.

You obviously are incapable of engaging me in an intellectual interchange.

I will not help you since you have elected to was infantile conceit on your sleeves.

Tedpgrass:

To all the MBBS, MB chB degree holders practising Medicine in a hostile environment such as Nigeria, with substandard or non-functioning equipment,....... treating a population who have little preventive medicine education or poor adherence likewise ;,.... having to deal with the diseases resulting from intense poverty or misplaced priorities;......... just trying to make a living despite being surrounded by charming, suave, social media savvy quacks who spoil the "business" and haters who can't get over the fact that JAMB separated the "wheat from the chaff" when vying for admission into medical schools.................

I hail u na..

I twale for una!!

I respect your hard work, dedication and sacrifice..


God bless you all richly for defying the odds..



You patients or relatives... wey dey jump fence to avoid paying u na bills.. U forget say that leg fit break!!
Make I no dish out epe l'epe for you all.



Awon yeye someborrrrry!!




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helpee:
Engaging you in an intellectual discourse? Now that your own profession is brought to limelight it becomes infantile conceit? Fool probably working for PHCN disconnecting light on poles when your colleagues are busy designing systems and providing infrastructural development for their countries. Better concentrate first and sanitise your poorly regulated profession where even artisans call themselves engineers since you guys know nothing anyway. Engineers criticising doctors in Nigeria. You must be high on osogbo weeds. You guys are the most useless professional in NIGERIA. Tell me one thing....just one thing ....just one infrastructure that engineers have successfully developed in Nigeria without begging Chinese to come to their aid

maestroferddi:
You have a twisted sense of entitlement and contrarian logic to boot.

So because, according to you, either Nigerian engineers are teaching in secondary schools or Chinese are running engineering practice in Nigeria, then nobody should point glaring inadequacies of medical practice in Nigeria?

And you are supposed to be educated!

An apprehended felon tells the court that he dabbled into crime because he believes Nigerian politicians are stealing?

Nobody expects the medical tourism that typifies Africa/Nigeria to abate, all people are asking is that some doctors should exhibit a modicum of discretion and objectivity...

You don't have to take it personally...

Squillaci:

Lol. I have uncles who are doctors.
Of course I don't pray for any of my kids to be doctors.
I would want them to a physicists and mathematicians. People who can change the way we do things. Not sitting somewhere impacting very little lives. Imagine 1 doctor to 2000 persons. That's the number of lives a doctor is expected to have an effect on.

Squillaci:

Lol. I have uncles who are doctors.
Of course I don't pray for any of my kids to be doctors.
I would want them to a physicists and mathematicians. People who can change the way we do things. Not sitting somewhere impacting very little lives. Imagine 1 doctor to 2000 persons. That's the number of lives a doctor is expected to have an effect on.

midnighter:


No matter how you ignore my comments I'll keep quoting you because you talk absolute rubbish!

A mathematician will still work with and read a doctors research paper! Dont you know what epidemiology is

A radiologist's research paper will always be more useful to a physicist than any stupid comment you will ever write on Nairaland! Go and cure your illiteracy!

DrWhizy:


No be today sha. Had several experiences

The most painful was a child who needed to be taken to a tertiary center for an urgent dialysis after he had been given nonsense native drugs (as treatment for a possible meningitis)that had knocked off the kidneys. The distance between my facility and the tertiary center was much and they weren’t mobile. The child didn’t have much time and if they waited to get a vehicle (which would have been almost impossible at that time), the child would die. I offered to take them with my car, a risky venture because my fuel tank was in reserve and I had planned on refueling the next day. Luckily we arrived the tertiary center on time and i helped in providing vital info to my senior colleagues at the center. The problem became payment for the peritoneal dialysis. They didn’t have enough cash at hand and were pleading that it be done as they promised to pay the next day. To make it easier I lent the relatives a small sum of 14k which I luckily had on me; he also promised to pay back the next day as I left for my facility which was unmanned all this while. Unfortunately my fuel wouldn’t take me that far as the car stopped enroute. I trekked at that odd hour for an unimaginable distance as I didn’t even have a dime to get a bike (that’s if I find sef) and finally arrived. Till date I never saw mr x neither did I see my money. Got his number, called him and when he heard my voice he dropped and barred my number. Well, i know not to do such things again. I was just a Corp doctor trying to help.

helpee:
take what personally? You are the one that is lacking in the so called education. The inadequacy of medical practice in Nigeria started with lack of equipment because our poorly trained engineers have failed us. So we can't point out the problem in medical practice without telling you that you are a FAILURE FIRST. Give us equipment first. The engineers that are developing sophisticated medical equipment in America don't have two heads. Stop pointing out the problem in medical profession....help us to solve it by working. We are not even asking for CT SCAN YET...GIVE US THERMOMETER FIRST. Then you will qualify to point out the so called inadequacies...until then shut the Bleep up because you have failed the doctors

Squillaci:

Without neuroscience, psychiatry would be no different from religion. Doctors feedback? Of course. Manufacturing companies also need the feedback of retailers/consumers.
Linguistics may seem important to you, but it is very insignificant when compared to the contributions of the physical sciences. Think about were you would be without steel, silicon, nuclear bombs. These advancements were not gotten from "feedbacks".

maestroferddi:
Well, the consolation here is that there are few doctors in Nigeria who are making the most of what is available to make a difference.

The rest, like people like you, will continue whining about working conditions forgetting that the impairment affecting professionals in Nigeria is not exclusive to doctors.

Let the reform begin with change of attitude.

Egotism is something that has to be managed. Failure begins when people ascribe infallibilty to themselves so much so that when doctors are told to mend their ways, you get the funny rejoinder that they graduated top of their high school classes.

My brother, the notion that people are envious of doctors is a figment of the imagination.

People just want value. Period.

Squillaci:


I mathematician need not use a doctor's research paper.
Lol. You wan spoil him hand? After all the abstract math, you him to battle with ordinary statistics.

midnighter:


A mathematician interested in virology, epidemiology or medical imaging will read a doctor's paper.

Squillaci:


That one na 3rd class mathematician wey dey find work.
Imagine what a mathematician is reduced to? Medical imaging.

Squillaci:


That one na 3rd class mathematician wey dey find work.
Imagine what a mathematician is reduced to? Medical imaging.

Squillaci:

So! I scored A1 in math and further math, and my school didn't even offer further math. Those O' level exams require very little intelligence, especially in a country with an average IQ of 82. Most of my classmates in my class who were slow to comprehend simple physics and math concepts still hit A's on same subjects in waec.

Whatever the ratio ( 1:3700), that is number of lives you are expected to impact. Chai. That's assuming every person goes to the hospital.

BTW, I am sure that without doctors, only a few percentage of people would die off. The human population can increase without bounds even without doctors.
Doctors are only valuable because we tend to believe in the importance of every human life, schizos, psychos, mgbekes alike.
You popsman is no different from the 3rd class maintenance engineer. Definitely graduated from one of those no-name universities abroad funded by the public. Higher grades meant more funding. Certainly not oxbridge or MIT. Last last, na installation of something be the consultation. No design, no creativity, no nothing.

helpee:
leave preaching for pastors and work. How many doctors do you have left in nigeria? The same way Nigerians are going for medical tourism is the same way doctors themselves are relocating like bees. The truth is that statistically, the best student goes to medical school. It is not even debatable. It is a sure fact. People want value....so the doctor should manufacture equipment to provide value while the engineers whose duty it is to provide the equipment still have the boldness to criticize the doctor that is trying to cover up their uselessness by making use of the available Chinese equipment bought with exorbitant loans. Wait there be looking for value when you can't produce common toothpick and you call yourself engineer. How do you guys feel comfortable calling yourself engineer in Nigeria still amazes me. Is it electricity? Is it road construction? Is it software development? Where do you guys excel? You are bunch of failures. Doctors are trying their best with the little they could do? What are you guys doing?

maestroferddi:
This is where you guys miss the mark.

Why must the obnoxious lots called politicians be your standard?

Enduring change starts when people are determined to bite the bullet in insisting on doing what is right and upholding a high water mark in integrity.

Yours truly is not tarring all doctors with the same brush: I had an encounter with a one-in-a-million Nigerian doctor lately, and boy! was I wowed.

The thing here is that reforms are needed in the medical profession in Nigeria unlike the norm of doctors defending their colleagues even when it is obvious that they made crass, inexcusable blunders.

Doctors should not be politicians by calling. It is a conflict of professionalism...