Janosky:


Sir/Ma, with all due respect, when you thoroughly " search the scriptures with the guidance of the Holy Spirit", you will discover that the term "Godhead" is a FRAUD.
"Godhead" does not exist in ancient Greek language of the holy Scriptures.
Sorry to bust your bubbles...
How many heads does Triune God have?

Sir/Ma,
I am a "woman", so "ma'am" will be just fine.
Well let me say "Heavenly Trio".
Thanks

Eviana:


Sir, honestly I must say that you lost me when you began the above bolded sentence to me.
Your tone seems harsh, abrasive and you wrote an enormous list of stuff...which was very overwhelming. You had written way too much.
Also if we are supposed to be Christians, then all the unnecessary sarcasm and innuendos, based on that first sentence above (just because we may disagree with one another)need not be present.
This is a repeated issue here on Nairaland...and makes for consistent mocking of Christianity by other "religions".
What I refuse to do is debate you about this subject. I express my beliefs, pray and believe that someone gets interested enough to search the scriptures with the guidance of yhe Holy Spirit.
I'm not into intellectual biblical debates.
I do sometimes have discussion, but it is never done with an intent to win a debate, express biblical expertise, or force someone to believe what I am convicted about.

What we "should" ultimately be focusing on, (and what you should be providing) are scriptures relating to praying and fasting for victory over sin and the continual Fruit of the Spirit to manifest in our lives daily.
That's where my main focus lies.
Interestingly enough, what you want to force me to believe about the Godhead, was not even the original topic of the OP....

Anyhoo, while I am open to discussion about some parts of the Bible with the goal of understanding, I am not willing to compromise on this particular part.
With all due respect sir, my "conviction" about the Godhead, Triune God or Heavenly trio (the words I use interchangeably) will remain the same.
Thank you for the mention.

My comment was never to put you down. I'm sorry if it appeared that way, especially from my first sentence. I don't intent to go on one of those endless debates. In my years of discussing with trinitarians and those who believe in that concept, those bible scriptures I posted have been effective.

You could consider them with an open mind. Thanks for your kind response.

BIBLESPEAKS:


My comment was never to put you down. I'm sorry if it appeared that way, especially from my first sentence. I don't intent to go on one of those endless debates. In my years of discussing with trinitarians and those who believe in that concept, those bible scriptures I posted have been effective.

You could consider them with an open mind. Thanks for your kind response.

I appreciate and accept your apology.
Forgive me for misinterpreting your tone.
I have even looked through some of what you wrote.
When it comes to a person's conviction though, it sometimes is extremely challenging to convince otherwise.
Apparently, you are very passionate about your belief..and you have presented it.
Now the Holy Spirit, ultimately, has to correct, rebuke, and convict a person if in error.
Thank you again for your reply.

johnmba:
Have been wondering if there is a difference between the two. My reason is this: we believe that Jesus is God and in St. Paul's letter he said " Blessed be God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

Also Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit said " who am I that the mother of my Lord should visit me".

So people is there any difference.

The two are titles!

©God means a superior beings. Psalms 82:1

The title could be conferred on someone for a purpose, making such a person an object of fright for disobedient individuals! Exodus 7:1

Many humans have turned themselves into Gods for their fellowman, so God (ALMIGHTY) says he will judge them and they'll have to know that they are NOT Gods as they've made themselves! Psalms 82:6

©Lord means owner!

Whoever possesses anything becomes the Lord to such thing, that's why Jesus is Lord. Adam sold all his descendants into slavery to sin and death, Jesus is the one and only perfect living being who surrendered himself to pay for what Adam lost. This made him Lord ONLY to those who are obedient to him, he will rescue them from the shackles of sin and death, and they're going to live forever!
Whoever refuses to become obedient to Jesus as his/her owner only have the life we're living now, they will also grow old and die like Adam.
But when the time comes for Jesus to takeover the mantle of rulership on this planet, all those who refuses to obey his orders will have to know that Adam has expired and the new ruler will only permit his own obedient subjects to live FOREVER while disobedient individuals will be exterminated by our Lord! Luke 19:27

The ALMIGHTY GOD bears both title because he is the SUPREME BEING and OWNER of all things! 1Corinthians 15:27-28

He conferred the title God on just two persons, Moses and Jesus, so while Moses couldn't buy his own people from sin with the blood of animals, Jesus used his perfect human life to pay for the sin of all those who are obedient to him, that's why Jesus is Lord!

God bless you!

Samunique:

Oun ti o ye e o poju oun to ye e lo !

If I may ask you, Christians are worshipping man like themselves, alright?

Who then answers their prayers, heals them, proving over and over again through miracles, signs and wonders of which I'm one of the beneficiaries of such, 20ys ago when I was down with a sickness that defied all medical means, I prayed in His name and He Jesus healed me ?

My brother, forget about what your whatever religious book tells you, seek the truth with an open mind and, if you don't mind, add fasting then come back and tell us what you discover.

Bros, Jesus is real !

He's the Son of God and divine !

He's son of God and God at the same time? Just listen to thr trash again yourself and really reason if that makes any danm sense. IT DOES NOT.

NOHOLDSBAR:


He's son of God and God at the same time? Just listen to thr trash again yourself and really reason if that makes any danm sense. IT DOES NOT.

So if he's the Son of God, who will he be then ?

Man?

Is your own son a goat ?

Is he not a man like u ?

Pls think about all these questions and come back to correct what you wrote here !!!

Samunique:
So if he's the Son of God, who will he be then ?

Man?

Is your own son a goat ?

Is he not a man like u ?

Pls think about all these questions and come back to correct what you wrote here !!!

Hey religious brainwashed mugu.
We are all sons of God. No man born on mother Earth is God. Stop your stupidity. Any idiot can himself God just like Rev King and so many other idiots in the past just like your jesus. Jesus was born and died like any other human being. Stop your stupidity, he no danm God.

Salim27:


Book of MCC 1:14. if you keep reading such books you will be lost forever. That book doesn't have any single word for me to believe.

Why will I be lost and how will I be lost?

0temSapien:
Why will I be lost and how will I be lost?

Because the book has many lies in it. No single words in it is true

OtemAtum:


Science began with the gods (first beings) but some of them like Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda etc lost focus and began religion instead of science. Then science was suppressed for sometimes. Then science began again until the past world became destroyed. Then came the homo sapiens world 282,019 years ago. Science was not extensively practised until about 300 years back. Science is actually the true method of studying and knowing more about God(Totality of Existence). I will give you references revealing the practise of science for as long as 4 billion years back in the periods of the early beings.

HI Otem, this is lord Centurion... I want to ask u a question, homo sapiens era starts in 202,019 or 282,019?

GodSaklek:


HI Otem, this is lord Centurion... I want to ask u a question, homo sapiens era starts in 202,019 or 282,019?

282,019 years ago.

Salim27:


Because the book has many lies in it. No single words in it is true

Have you read the book very well or you are just assuming?

Otematum, we have some unfinished business. Where are you?

GOD IN HEAVEN IS LORDGOD IN TRANSIT AND LORD ON EARTH. GENESIS 1&2

REMEMBER ISAIAH, "THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD'S UPON ME". THAT WAS JESUS' PROPHECY IN THE SYNAGOGUE.

elated177:
Otematum, we have some unfinished business. Where are you?

Here am I. How are you doing?

0temSapien:
Here am I. How are you doing?

I am soaring like an eagle, actually. You?

You refused to answer the questions which I threw at you during our last discourse. Why? Hasn't otem returned from the market?

elated177:



I am soaring like an eagle, actually. You?

You refused to answer the questions which I threw at you during our last discourse. Why? Hasn't otem returned from the market?

Which question is that? I thought I answered all your questions back then.
Lol, how did you know that I went to the market

0temSapien:


Which question is that? I thought I answered all your questions back then.

Go through our last discourse.


However, you can start with this

You wrote: I can influence the direction of the wind by raising the air pressure of one area above the other.


And I asked: How do you intend to achieve this?

elated177:



Go through our last discourse.


However, you can start with this

You wrote: I can influence the direction of the wind by raising the air pressure of one area above the other.


And I asked: How do you intend to achieve this?

Even a vacuum cleaner can influence air pressure. If I need to achieve such feat, I'll devise a scientific instrument to that end.

0temSapien:


Even a vacuum cleaner can influence air pressure. If I need to achieve such feat, I'll devise a scientific instrument to that end.

Ahahahahaha...lol.


Let me suspend this till further notice.

Otemsapien/otematum, our discussion will soon continue. Are you ready?

elated177:
Otemsapien/otematum, our discussion will soon continue. Are you ready?

Happy New Year elated177, I am ready anytime you are ready also. Thanks.

0temSapien:
Happy New Year elated177, I am ready anytime you are ready also. Thanks.

Ok, otematum. Very soon.

I think this particular thread is no longer suitable for this discourse.

I will start another thread for this purpose.

elated177:


Ok, otematum. Very soon.

I think this particular thread is no longer suitable for this discourse.

I will start another thread for this purpose.

You're welcome, any day anytime. Happy New Year.

johnmba:
■ Have been wondering if there is a difference between the two. My reason is this: we believe that Jesus is God and in St. Paul's letter he said " Blessed be God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"
Also Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit said " who am I that the mother of my Lord should visit me".
So people is there any difference.

1. A Lord is a Master. Jesus Christ is a Master over all those who belong to Him.

Before Making Any Decision In Life Watch This.

Apostle Joshua Selman.

Listen And Learn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoiJ8iBiL3Q

■ We all believe we can be called son of God(Not begotten son, God was never given birth to and never gave birth),
■ if we can be called son of God and Jesus can also be called son of God, means we and Jesus are all ranked the same, but Jusus been more a prophet, a messanger and the second to the last prophet, ranked him above we humans, so we can call him our Lord or any other attributes that ranks him above us.
■ There is no statement (unambiguous) in the Bible where Jesus said I am God or worship me. These two statements are ambiguous, but you prefer the meaning that says Lord and God is the same, why not otherwise.

1. Not everybody can be called a Son of God. Only a select few are transformed from being Sons of God - John 8 vs 31 - 36. There is a process involved and only those who undergo the process will become Sons of God.

2. Not necessarily so! Consider a Master-slave relationship in which the Master is able to pass certain aspects of Himself to his slaves. In doing so, the slave can become like the Master but the slave will never be the Master, nor become greater than the master.

3. The moment Jesus Christ told His followers to follow me — Trust and obey Him — He as a God over them. Any man or woman whose world you trust and obey becomes a god over you. However, in Jeremiah 17 vs 1 - 6, God made it clear that all those who put their trust in men are cursed by Him. God then spoke from Heaven, saying to all, "This is My beloved Son, My Chosen One; listen and obey and yield to Him!" - Luke 9 vs 35.

Jehovah is God
Jesus is Lord
It takes deeper revelation to call Jesus God.
He is God though He is Lord because the Father who is God loves the son who is Lord and gives Him Jesus who is Lord the benefits and power to be called God which belongs only to Jehovah.

Only God can forgive sins but He gave only Jesus the power to forgive sins.
Only God can give life but God gave only Jesus the power to give life. Not this life alone but the one to Come.

God the Father is God
Jesus the son is Lord
They are two different Beings.
But it's no sin to call the son God because He and His father who is God are one.

I hope I have been able to convince you and not confuse you about the difference between God and Lord.

GoodIsGod:
Jehovah is God
Jesus is Lord
It takes deeper revelation to call Jesus God.
He is God though He is Lord because the Father who is God loves the son who is Lord and gives Him Jesus who is Lord the benefits and power to be called God which belongs only to Jehovah.
.

Hosea 12:3-4, did God call his angel God?

Psalm 82:1,6 did God call his creation Theos?

When dem wan TWIST scriptures dem go say nah "deeper revelation"

GoodIsGod:


Only God can forgive sins but He gave only Jesus the power to forgive sins..

John 20:23
If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”

Oga,stop LYING.
Nah John 20:23, Jesus Christ take catch you.

GoodIsGod:


Only God can give life but God gave only Jesus the power to give life. Not this life alone but the one to Come.

God the Father is God
Jesus the son is Lord
They are two different Beings.
But it's no sin to call the son God because He and His father who is God are one.

I hope I have been able to convince you and not confuse you about the difference between God and Lord.

John 17:21-22,
"They be one just as we are One"
According to your claim, it is not a sin to call the disciples God because they are one with the Father and Jesus.

GoodIsGod:
Jehovah is God
Jesus is Lord
It takes deeper revelation to call Jesus God.
.

Janosky:

Hosea 12:3-4, did God call his angel God?
Psalm 82:1,6 did God call his creation Theos?
When dem wan TWIST scriptures dem go say nah "deeper revelation"
John 20:23
If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained.”
Oga,stop LYING.
Nah John 20:23, Jesus Christ take catch you.
John 17:21-22,
"They be one just as we are One"
According to your claim, it is not a sin to call the disciples God because they are one with the Father and Jesus.

With the highlighted he has closed the case by saying only his god can reveal that so if you're not a worshiper of his god why argue with him on what his god PERSONALLY revealed to him?

johnmba:
Have been wondering if there is a difference between the two. My reason is this: we believe that Jesus is God and in St. Paul's letter he said " Blessed be God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"

Also Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit said " who am I that the mother of my Lord should visit me".

So people is there any difference.

The Lord (Jesus Christ) is our God.

However, our God has His Father, Who will therefore be a God to us too called The Most High.

So we might say we have God Senior (The Most High) and God junior, The Lord!