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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Abcdefghij10000(f): 8:22am On Dec 20, 2019
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AAA593:

Thunder fire wetin. Do you even understand ASUU points?
IPPIS is the fact that it is a blatant violation of the concept of university autonomy. University autonomy is a global practice associated with universities all over the world and it has four main dimensions namely: academic, organisational, financial and staff autonomy. Perhaps, some little words about university autonomy would suffice. Academic autonomy simply means the university’s capacity to manage its internal academic affairs independently. Such academic issues include students’ admissions, academic content, quality assurance and the introduction of new degree programmes. Organisational autonomy has to do with the university’s ability to decide freely on issues like decision-making bodies, executive leadership, legal entities and internal academic structures. Financial autonomy s all about the university’s ability to decide freely on internal financial matters like managing its funds independently and setting its strategic aims.

All these must be added the fact that university autonomy gives absolute powers to a body called the university governing council. This body is officially recognised by the laws establishing universities in Nigeria. It is this body that is saddled with the responsibility for the control and management of university funds, employment and promotion of staff. All edicts and statues establishing universities and the nation’s constitution give full powers to the governing councils as the supreme body concerned with the day-to-day operation of the university. In the profoundest sense, university autonomy means that all powers academic, managerial and financial are vested in the governing council. All the agreements signed between the Federal Government and the Academic Staff Union of Universities since 1992 have shown abundantly that Nigerian universities should be allowed to operate in compliance with their enabling laws, statues, rules and regulations.


So you 're trying to tell me a university autonomy is more important than the massive corruption going on in Nigerian universities,it's only a self sufficient university that can pay its members from its igr that can argue with fg on this aspect.I schooled in Norway where all the Universities are government owned and they are self sufficient

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by rottennaija(m): 8:22am On Dec 20, 2019
" through which excesses of the university system are checked, would be sent to various Federal Universities by 11th March, 2019. However, these panels are yet to be constituted by the FGN despite the hue and cry about fighting corruption"

AAA593

What sort of autonomy does Universities have if FG is constitutes a panel that visit and ask for accountability?

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 8:22am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:



thats a big lie, FG can run a student loan scheme or educational scholarship based on your semester performance so that students dont get burnt and Universities can truly enjoy financial autonomy..

even at that, our tax laws give FG right to demand any payroll system of both private and public organisation
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 8:23am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:



IPPS sytem doesnt violate the Independence of University as they can manage all funds issued to them through grants, tetfund and allocation even their tuitions and acceptance fees are managed by them... the only thing Federal Government wants is a payroll system that supports accountability and audit

every University with autonomy in the world opens its book for auditing and public scrutinity

Dont forget our Tax laws also give FG the right to access instituitions pay roll system for effective income tax collection
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by backnbeta(f): 8:25am On Dec 20, 2019
itsme01:



IPPS sytem doesnt violate the Independence of University as they can manage all funds issued to them through grants, tetfund and allocation even their tuitions and acceptance fees are managed by them... the only thing Federal Government wants is a payroll system that supports accountability and audit

every University with autonomy in the world opens its book for auditing and public scrutinity
IPPIS violate the agreement between ASUU and FG.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Thegoodone13(m): 8:27am On Dec 20, 2019
AAA593:

Thunder fire wetin. Do you even understand ASUU points?
IPPIS is the fact that it is a blatant violation of the concept of university autonomy. University autonomy is a global practice associated with universities all over the world and it has four main dimensions namely: academic, organisational, financial and staff autonomy. Perhaps, some little words about university autonomy would suffice. Academic autonomy simply means the university’s capacity to manage its internal academic affairs independently. Such academic issues include students’ admissions, academic content, quality assurance and the introduction of new degree programmes. Organisational autonomy has to do with the university’s ability to decide freely on issues like decision-making bodies, executive leadership, legal entities and internal academic structures. Financial autonomy s all about the university’s ability to decide freely on internal financial matters like managing its funds independently and setting its strategic aims.

All these must be added the fact that university autonomy gives absolute powers to a body called the university governing council. This body is officially recognised by the laws establishing universities in Nigeria. It is this body that is saddled with the responsibility for the control and management of university funds, employment and promotion of staff. All edicts and statues establishing universities and the nation’s constitution give full powers to the governing councils as the supreme body concerned with the day-to-day operation of the university. In the profoundest sense, university autonomy means that all powers academic, managerial and financial are vested in the governing council. All the agreements signed between the Federal Government and the Academic Staff Union of Universities since 1992 have shown abundantly that Nigerian universities should be allowed to operate in compliance with their enabling laws, statues, rules and regulations.

are you a staff or member of ASUU? Federal government only pay salary through ippis and any other negotiations with federal government can continue. We are talking about only salary sir.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Georgry(m): 8:27am On Dec 20, 2019
Abcdefghij10000:
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So you 're trying to tell me a university autonomy is more important than the massive corruption going on in Nigerian universities,it's only a self sufficient university that can pay its members from its igr that can argue with fg on this aspect.I schooled in Norway where all the Universities are government owned and they are self sufficient


Don't be a MUMU, financial autonomy is right there in the statutes that established the creation of universities, must your General change everything just like he introduced the suspension of a CJN into the Nigeria constitution?
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by bluefilm: 8:31am On Dec 20, 2019
When is the ASUU strike commencing biko?

I need to rest some more...
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by itsme01: 8:35am On Dec 20, 2019
backnbeta:

IPPIS violate the agreement between ASUU and FG.

an agreement is never a binding law or form of legislation.. so if jonathan agreed to something buhari might disagree to it

besides why should private organisation publish its financial record and payroll system to FIRS when paying tax and Universities dont want an open payroll system that the government can check

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by pryme(m): 8:38am On Dec 20, 2019
AAA593:

Thunder fire wetin. Do you even understand ASUU points?
IPPIS is the fact that it is a blatant violation of the concept of university autonomy. University autonomy is a global practice associated with universities all over the world and it has four main dimensions namely: academic, organisational, financial and staff autonomy. Perhaps, some little words about university autonomy would suffice. Academic autonomy simply means the university’s capacity to manage its internal academic affairs independently. Such academic issues include students’ admissions, academic content, quality assurance and the introduction of new degree programmes. Organisational autonomy has to do with the university’s ability to decide freely on issues like decision-making bodies, executive leadership, legal entities and internal academic structures. Financial autonomy s all about the university’s ability to decide freely on internal financial matters like managing its funds independently and setting its strategic aims.

All these must be added the fact that university autonomy gives absolute powers to a body called the university governing council. This body is officially recognised by the laws establishing universities in Nigeria. It is this body that is saddled with the responsibility for the control and management of university funds, employment and promotion of staff. All edicts and statues establishing universities and the nation’s constitution give full powers to the governing councils as the supreme body concerned with the day-to-day operation of the university. In the profoundest sense, university autonomy means that all powers academic, managerial and financial are vested in the governing council. All the agreements signed between the Federal Government and the Academic Staff Union of Universities since 1992 have shown abundantly that Nigerian universities should be allowed to operate in compliance with their enabling laws, statues, rules and regulations.


Sadly this act left out generating of funds for payment of salaries "independently".
It's strange that the most educated group of individuals could not spot this grey area.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by DSEER(f): 8:42am On Dec 20, 2019
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Thunder fire wetin. Do you even understand ASUU points?
IPPIS is the fact that it is a blatant violation of the concept of university autonomy. University autonomy is a global practice associated with universities all over the world and it has four main dimensions namely: academic, organisational, financial and staff autonomy. Perhaps, some little words about university autonomy would suffice. Academic autonomy simply means the university’s capacity to manage its internal academic affairs independently. Such academic issues include students’ admissions, academic content, quality assurance and the introduction of new degree programmes. Organisational autonomy has to do with the university’s ability to decide freely on issues like decision-making bodies, executive leadership, legal entities and internal academic structures. Financial autonomy s all about the university’s ability to decide freely on internal financial matters like managing its funds independently and setting its strategic aims.

All these must be added the fact that university autonomy gives absolute powers to a body called the university governing council. This body is officially recognised by the laws establishing universities in Nigeria. It is this body that is saddled with the responsibility for the control and management of university funds, employment and promotion of staff. All edicts and statues establishing universities and the nation’s constitution give full powers to the governing councils as the supreme body concerned with the day-to-day operation of the university. In the profoundest sense, university autonomy means that all powers academic, managerial and financial are vested in the governing council. All the agreements signed between the Federal Government and the Academic Staff Union of Universities since 1992 have shown abundantly that Nigerian universities should be allowed to operate in compliance with their enabling laws, statues, rules and regulation

IPPIS is going to reveal corruption in every sector..we were told that military personnel are not entitled to minimum wage some month back not knowing that some evil men have carried out their evil and devilish act...the news reaching us with proof now is that we are going to be paid minimum wage wef this month and arrears will be paid later.......thanks to IPPIS

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Nobody: 8:42am On Dec 20, 2019

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by backnbeta(f): 8:46am On Dec 20, 2019
itsme01:


an agreement is never a binding law or form of legislation.. so if jonathan agreed to something buhari might disagree to it

besides why should private organisation publish its financial record and payroll system to FIRS when paying tax and Universities dont want an open payroll system that the government can check
ASUU is not against IPPIS, the way it's done is the problem. The government will have to adjust this platform to capture ASUU, especially in terms of retirement age, accumulated arrears, lecturers on sabbatical (this is done everywhere), as well as other allowances already tabled before the committee. I assure you, government has no good intentions for ASUU.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Ajibade123(m): 8:54am On Dec 20, 2019
after all these grammar ehn Las Las na 3 month strike
anyway do you wish to study or work in Australia, Canada or US check my signature for more info

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Pacesetter123(m): 8:57am On Dec 20, 2019
Nigerianization:


Thanks for the education. But how can we marry the contradiction of FINANCIAL AUTONOMY and the inability of Nigerian universities to survive independently of government funding.
Tank u my brother.I wanted asking de same question b4 u did.He talked about managing funds.Funds from where? Fund dat u cannot generate? And he called it financial autonomy.I laff Nigeria universities in Spanish wen dey talk about financial autonomy.
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by itsme01: 8:57am On Dec 20, 2019
backnbeta:

ASUU is not against IPPIS, the way it's done is the problem. The government will have to adjust this platform to capture ASUU, especially in terms of retirement age, accumulated arrears, lecturers on sabbatical (this is done everywhere), as well as other allowances already tabled before the committee. I assure you, government has no good intentions for ASUU.


Police has their own pecuilirities when it comes to payroll system as they have a number of allowances pecuiliar to them including payment for special duties during events like election and transfer .. IPPIS captured them perfectly and it has beng smooth , and to handle pecuilarity of ASUU FG required all lecturers to be capture with special details like BVN , statement of account of the past 6 months (what ASSUU are scared of) employment letter , declaration of age etc

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by fabolouz1(m): 9:03am On Dec 20, 2019
One of the useless association that has outlived its usefulness.
Everyone knows that the university system is inept and corrupt, why ASUU is kicking against this payroll is because these thieves won't be able to benefit from the countless ghost workers they bring into the payroll.
Useless Body.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by backnbeta(f): 9:08am On Dec 20, 2019
itsme01:



Police has their own pecuilirities when it comes to payroll system as they have a number of allowances pecuiliar to them including payment for special duties during events like election and transfer .. IPPIS captured them perfectly and it has beng smooth , and to handle pecuilarity of ASUU FG required all lecturers to be capture with special details like BVN , statement of account of the past 6 months (what ASSUU are scared of) employment letter , declaration of age etc
Don't worry sir...the child crying understands, likewise the mother petting him. The FG has refused to agree to capture ASUU's peculiarities. I also understand that the Nigerian Police is having/had issues with this platform. Besides, let the FG tell us why they have refused to capture other parastatals like FIRS and co.
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Abdulqareem: 9:08am On Dec 20, 2019
seunmsg:


Since ASUU members don’t want to join IPPIS like other federal workers, they should look for money to pay themselves. Henceforth, FG will no longer pay federal university lecturers that are not captured on the IPPIS platform from the consolidated revenue fund. They want financial autonomy, they will get it. FG should stop funding personnel cost of federal universities. Let the university councils go and look for money to pay them.

Since the IPPIS is a good initiative, then no agency should be spared. NNPC, DPR, FIRS, NIA, DIA and others should be forced to do same. Anything contrary to this, then it is a deliberate attempt to witch hunt our dear lecturers.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 9:15am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:



Police has their own pecuilirities when it comes to payroll system as they have a number of allowances pecuiliar to them including payment for special duties during events like election and transfer .. IPPIS captured them perfectly and it has beng smooth , and to handle pecuilarity of ASUU FG required all lecturers to be capture with special details like BVN , statement of account of the past 6 months (what ASSUU are scared of) employment letter , declaration of age etc
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 9:17am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:



IPPS sytem doesnt violate the Independence of University as they can manage all funds issued to them through grants, tetfund and allocation even their tuitions and acceptance fees are managed by them... the only thing Federal Government wants is a payroll system that supports accountability and audit

every University with autonomy in the world opens its book for auditing and public scrutinity

Dont forget our Tax laws also give FG the right to access instituitions pay roll system for effective income tax collection
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 9:22am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:



thats a big lie, FG can run a student loan scheme or educational scholarship based on your semester performance so that students dont get burnt and Universities can truly enjoy financial autonomy..

even at that, our tax laws give FG right to demand any payroll system of both private and public organisation
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by firstbornson(m): 9:23am On Dec 20, 2019
itsme01:



thats a big lie, FG can run a student loan scheme or educational scholarship based on your semester performance so that students dont get burnt and Universities can truly enjoy financial autonomy..

even at that, our tax laws give FG right to demand any payroll system of both private and public organisation

Student loan in Nigeria? A fresh university graduate in Nigeria can hardly get a good job within the first four years of graduation.

How is he going to pay back the loan?

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by ibbo: 9:23am On Dec 20, 2019
with time, everybody will be captured.
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by itsme01: 9:25am On Dec 20, 2019
firstbornson:


Student loan in Nigeria? I fresh university graduate in Nigeria can hardly get a good job within the first four years of graduation.

How is he going to pay back the loan?

Government can always give grants for startup and the graduate pays it back with the loan instead of wasting billions that could help graduates into unauditted drain of universities controlled by ASSU

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by seunmsg(m): 9:27am On Dec 20, 2019
Abdulqareem:


Since the IPPIS is a good initiative, then no agency should be spared. NNPC, DPR, FIRS, NIA, DIA and others should be forced to do same. Anything contrary to this, then it is a deliberate attempt to witch hunt our dear lecturers.

Very ignorant post. NNPC, DPR, FIRS, NPA and CUSTOM are revenue generating agencies. They don’t get their personnel cost from CRF. The law setting them up allows them to deduct a certain percentage of their collection to meet capital and recurrent expenditures.

IPPIS is designed to pay the salaries of MDAS that get their personnel allocation from CRF. NIA and DIA will join IPPIS. Police, military and civil defense are now fully on board. All security agencies will join based on an already decided timeframe. For now, it is the turn of university lecturers to join and if they fail to do so, their salaries shall be withheld.

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by seunmsg(m): 9:31am On Dec 20, 2019
backnbeta:

IPPIS violate the agreement between ASUU and FG.

Which agreement?

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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by FreeSoworeNow: 9:32am On Dec 20, 2019
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itsme01:


Government can always give grants for startup and the graduate pays it back with the loan instead of wasting billions that could help graduates into unauditted drain of universities controlled by ASSU
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Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by RoyalUc(m): 9:32am On Dec 20, 2019
backnbeta:

IPPIS violate the agreement between ASUU and FG.

What agreement?
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by Ibegtodiffer: 9:35am On Dec 20, 2019
Slawormir:
Damnnnnn niggarrr

ASUU is not serious
If you see the the kind of corruption going on in the bursary department of these federal universities ehnnn
Staffs are being short paid. Abnormal deduction from their salary.
ASUU keep coming up with useless assertion
Before now they were saying that federal government is planning to pay those contractors handling the ippis about 2billion naira. Which means each person enrolled will cost sixteen thousand naira.

I must tell everyone one that is a lie
I worked as one of the enrollment officers in university of Benin.


ASUU can't deceive the public

Almost all uniben lecturers migrated
I can bet my balls i captured so many Uniben lecturers at senate chamber of Uniben
Expired lies.
Re: Why FG Is Insisting On IPPIS – ASUU by seunmsg(m): 9:37am On Dec 20, 2019
Georgry:



Don't be a MUMU, financial autonomy is right there in the statutes that established the creation of universities, must your General change everything just like he introduced the suspension of a CJN into the Nigeria constitution?




You support financial autonomy for universities but still want federal government to continue to pay lectures salaries and even give the universities monthly subventions. How this kind of nonsense makes sense to you is what I don’t understand. Do you even know what financial autonomy is?

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