Bigmikedagod:



how many evil spirits did Jesus and his disciples cast out of people
you clearly dont know what you are saying. how often have you heard of MFM attacking ppl physically??

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For the few people that missed our End of the Year barbecue parry for the kids @[b][color=#006600][/color],
Have this and be Merry......

Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Prospero año y felicidad

I want to wish you a Merry Christmas
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas
I want to wish you a Merry Christmas
From the bottom of my WIFE

Ken4Christ:
Holding camp meeting to kill perceived enemies. Dr Olukoya should please repent of this evil teachings and forms of prayers before it is too late.

How many witches did our Lord Jesus killed. He died for everybody including witches. I have seen some people involved in witchcraft activities saved by the power of God and they are now preaching the gospel.

Not just MFN. This prayer forms have spread like cancer to other denominations including the RCCG and Salvation Ministries. They are not just consistent with the teachings of our Lord Jesus. We should stop killing perceived enemies through prayers.

Ken4Christ:


I never said that they attack people physically. I said that they pray for perceived enemies to die and it is very wrong to pray that way.

Our Lord Jesus said,

Matthew 5:43-45
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

There is no ambiguity in this statement. Apostle Paul added,

Romans 12:19-21
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Don't tell me Olukoya has never read these scriptures before. Why does he act contrary to the instructions contained in them? Is he wiser than Jesus and the Apostles. Sometimes, we just follow without asking questions. The fact that he has large followership doesn't mean he is doing the right thing. The world is full of gullible souls.

Oluromantic:

2Cor. 10.4 ... God himself stated his interest in warfare against evil powers and principalities.

At least you watch Nollywood. When you find yourself in a situation where there are custodians of evil powers in ur family (witchcraft or consulting babalawo etc) and are responsible for your misfortunes or a Yahoo family member has used ur undies while you're drying up. If you can pray for them as you die on, honestly I will commend you and tell the world about you..

rummmy:
Owing a football club(MFM) is not biblical..

sunnymaja:

The mystery of religion is that the witches will kill you but repent later and she will still enter heaven while you enter the place you qualified for. That is why the bible says suffer witch not to live. It is incapacitating them and those one that have covenanted their life die. Leave the substance of argument and pray for your own freedom to fulfill your destiny.

solsticey2k3:


Firstly, the one who should repent is you my brother. Dr Olukoya is a seasoned man of God with decades of experience, physical and spiritual.

Read John 3:16 again, “..... that whosoever believeth in him, will have everlasting life”. Jesus Christ did not lay down his life for everyone, but made salvation possible for all. I’m not sure you’ve experienced a powerful spiritual battle before, where these unrepentant enemies would have sworn that unless they die, that is when they would stop waging war. “Stop them before they stop you....”, if you want them to repent (one way of stopping them), and they don’t repent, then they will perish (another way of stopping them).

“...... the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent taketh it by force”

Neroiam:


No sir.

You're not talking to a lay man..

Question is why did Pope Julius in 350 AD make December 25th Jesus's birthday when it has been widely known for pagan gods worship..

Far back to Nimrod who married his mother Samiramis, self acclaimed queen of heaven.. Nimrod died untimely and mommy Nimrod had claimed he(Nimrod) had grown into an evergreen tree from a dead stump and left her gifts on December 25th.. That's the origin of Santa clause and christmas tree.

I read an account from "The Force" where Christians were slaughtered in worship of this same Nimrod boy every 25 December.

Mithras, Horus, Attis, Dionysus the son of Zeus,Tammuz, Hercules, Perseus, Helios, Bacchus Apollo, Jupiter, Sol Invictus – (The “Unconquered Sun”)

All this gods were celebrated 25th december

Some say the Pope's reason was to convert pagans to Christianity if the birth of Jesus Christ was celebrated on the same day.

From my findings, these popes were a sect, occultic practices.

2 Cor. 6:15
How can Christ and the Devil agree? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?

Jesus commanded what we should do in remembrance of him.. Did he command christmas?

That pope nigga could have chosen any other day.. Why 25 December?

Lilisticlili:
you should repent your self,not until you have problem and be looking for prayers after your babalawos fails you

shuttox:
Jehovah witness have been emphasizing on this for years

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

Mcuzy:
Make ona go sidon where contain ona . Who follow ona drag say dem nor born Jesus for December ? Over sabi tell us when dem born am na... December 25th is just a day we celebrate CHristmas to remind the world of the birth of a king

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

constance500:


U are dull

aimuan:
Jesus himself didn't celebrate his birthday,why do you chose to celebrate it?worse still on a wrong date.

ifewise:
The Controversy on Christmas, December 25th as Jesus' Birthday: Our Position and Clarification, By MFM

With reference to the varied reactions that have been trailing the message of our General Overseer (Worldwide), Mountain of Fire and Miracles Ministries (MFM), Dr. Daniel Olukoya, on the celebration of December 25th as Christmas in celebration of the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ, during the church's weekly Manna Water service on Dec. 25, 2019, we make the following clarifications...

Though the foundation of Christmas is idolatry and God hates idolatry with perfect hatred, we will not throw away the baby and the bath water.
We do not condemn those who celebrate.
Jesus is born in us at MFM every day. His death is our birth certificate.

We will bring out the positive out of the negatives by using all holidays for prayers, conferences seminars, and activities.

We will hold seminars, conventions, camp meetings or special teaching services to pray, examine the scriptures and draw positives from the wrong, negative and idolatry practices of the two events: Easter and Christmas.

We will hold special meetings to re-teach, re-emphasize and reappraise the significance of Jesus' birth, death, cross, and resurrection.

ON DECEMBER AND THE SHEPHERDS
Strange but true! Remember those shepherds who were “keeping watch over their flocks by night”? (Luke 2:. December weather around Bethlehem is often miserably cold, wet and rainy. No shepherd in his right mind would have kept his flocks outside at night at that time of year!
The passage argues against the December 25th birth of Jesus Christ since the weather would not have permitted shepherds to be out in the fields with their flocks then.

Also, Luke 2:1-4 tells us that Jesus was born in Bethlehem because his parents came to that town to register in a Roman census.
The Romans were well known as highly efficient administrators. It would have made no sense to have conducted a census in the dead of winter when temperatures often dropped below freezing and traveling was difficult due to poor road conditions. Taking a census under such conditions would have been pointless.

The Bible nowhere tells us to observe a holiday celebrating Jesus Christ’s birth —but it clearly does tell us to do ‘communion’ in remembrance of him.

Mcuzy:
Make ona go sidon where contain ona . Who follow ona drag say dem nor born Jesus for December ? Over sabi tell us when dem born am na... December 25th is just a day we celebrate CHristmas to remind the world of the birth of a king

Excellentmind:


Everybody has a right to hold views, but to present the foregoing as the basis for his argument against Christmas is subjective and therefore unacceptable.
1. There is no particular time of the year that shepherds don't take their flocks for graising .
2. There is no definite time for conducting census; weather does not affect the conduct of census for such impression to hold water.
Therefore, all he has said is his opinion and no one including the members of his congregation should be forced to share his views or antagonize anyone who holds a contrary view.

aimuan:
Jesus himself didn't celebrate his birthday,why do you chose to celebrate it?worse still on a wrong date.

Ken4Christ:


A child of God who is truly born again is indestructible.
Not while he's still heavily ignorant. Being born again is not enough to be indestructible; in fact it makes you a serious target for them and they can still get you if you stop there. You need more than being born again to be indestructible and if you have what it takes, you sincerely won't take time typing all these
Our lives is hid with God in Christ. No weapon formed against you shall prosper. As the scripture says,

1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that WICKED ONE TOUCHETH HIM NOT.

1 Peter 3:13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?

If you are easily venerable to the wicked devices of evil people, there are factors responsible and it's your responsibility to fix them and stay under cover. Examples of such factors are

1. You are not truly born again. You just go to Church.
2. You are born again but engaged in sinful indulgence.
3. You are yet to be filled with the Holy Spirit. The baptism with the Holy Spirit puts a stamp of ownership of God upon your life. God from that moment takes personal responsibility to protect you.
4. You are not prayerful especially in tongues.
5. You are not committed to the advancement of the kingdom of God. You go to church whenever you like. You are not involved in any activity department. Not a tither and not a giver. How would you explain how miles Munroe crashed in a plane with his family? He lacked the holy spirit? Or he wasn't praying in tongues? Or he goes to church whenever he likes?

You've even diverted the topic. It's one thing to be spiritually mature that evil powers would have a hard time getting you, it's another thing for them to disappear in fear at your arrival cuz they know you are on the offensive side as did Elijah before Baal.

atoleybaba:
just the same way u are in a joyous mood when you give birth to a child.....same way u will feel when a family is kidnapped and the random u are told to arrange is ready. You know that joyous feeling? Yes that is what the angels felt. They rejoiced with me cos their savour is on Earth. After that did u hear that every year d angels commemorate it?