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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Aremson14(m): 2:08pm On Jan 04, 2020
mofeireoluwa:


You are a big liar and you know nobody believes you. Who are those Christians that you know that attend Islamic schools? Christians don't go about looking for trouble the way you guys do.
grin okay
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by RunThins: 2:27pm On Jan 04, 2020
mofeireoluwa:


Why not consult a lawyer on his behalf?

I am sure there are plenty lawyers queuing up to help his cause; he's been wronged by the school and I hope they would make restitution before a legal action is initiated.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Cityguy: 4:22pm On Jan 04, 2020
samsard:
You're not making sense. Maybe the government should ban all these churches and mosques masquerading as universities to stop the general foolishness of Nigerians.
Govt doesn't need to barn them. Prospective students should find out about their strong ties and avoid ones that are likely to restrict them. Nigeria is secular but I can't enter mosque and start shouting 'Praise Jesus'. That is not.the not university in Nigeria. Let them simply chose those that are atuned to their religious preferences. Aye yi o le.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by alansary0064(m): 8:44am On Jan 05, 2020
Kingsean:
crap... you are a Muslim that don't wanna attend church programmes and u go to a Christian university. you are forming stubborn and crying everywhere. rubbish. if u cannot cope, don't attend the school. its a faith based school. its even on their website. i don't know why people are like this

God bless you. Exactly my point.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by sanusisuper: 2:55pm On Jan 05, 2020
This is a lesson to those liberal Muslim parents who gullibly accept the lie that we worship the same God and their it does not matter attitude. They will see Muslim institutions but will deliberately choose Christan institutions because they are non practising Muslims. God forbid I choose a Muslim institution over a Christan institution. Am I stupid to do such a thing?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Sainttops(m): 7:59pm On Jan 05, 2020
Check ur upstairs if what you guys is right before you tag anything childish.

Kingsean:




bros why all these? this is really childish
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Kingsean(m): 10:51pm On Jan 05, 2020
Sainttops:
Check ur upstairs if what you guys is right before you tag anything childish.

am i the one who suspended d student. why are u asking me? psycho
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by zeeprince(m): 11:18pm On Jan 06, 2020
zoedew:


A Description in Islam, Taqiya or Taqiyya is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution. A related term is, Kitmān, which has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission. Wikipedia

In simple terms it is perfectly legitimate in Islam for a Muslim to lie, be deceitful or deny being a Muslim to gain an advantage for.e.g. Sign a University Handbook to abide by the Rules and Regulations of the Institution so as to gain admission only to turn around and scream blue murder to say one is being persecuted for being a Muslim! That exactly is what the guy has done. Ladies who marry Muslims on the promise of the Bridegroom to not force his Bride to be a Muslimat and to allow her worship she will are on their own since Islam permits the Bridegroom to later go back on his word on the ground that it was taqqiya! All are forewarned that when a Muslim appears to be tolerant of your freedom to worship what you will and still be your friend he plays taqqiya with you - he is deceiving you till he has an opportunity to show his true colour! That explains the story of many who have survived Islamic terrorist attacks when they say that close and friends and neighbours 99% of the time will be the ones to lead the attackers to them and participate in the slaughter of the simple! Beware! Check this thread and you’ll find a Muslim who accused me of persecuting him just because I pointed out the obvious that is, the taqqiya strategy of the said university student! That again is classic taqqiya! Beware! You do not hate a Muslim for that- only ensure you are circumspect in your relationship with a Muslim simply because Islam permits him to deceive you so long as it is for a perceive gain for Islam!
ur definition which you got from Wikipedia says in the face of persecution but u tried changing the meaning to suit ur whims which is ok by me , I can work with that now let's see whether Christianity is free from taqiyya as y you define it.

Christians will gladly point out these to anyone who cares to listen :

“Muslims do taqiyyah. Never believe them!”. Do Christians never lie? “No, real Christians will not lie!” answers the deluded cultic Christian. The more edified ones will concede saying, “yes, Christians do lie as well, but the difference between Islam and Christianity is that the Bible does not teach or promote lying in any way while the Qur’an and Sunnah do.” Really? Even a “white lie” is sinful according to the Bible? “Yes, even a white lie is wrong. No such thing as a white lie!” says the confident Christian.

It is sufficient to mention here that most Muslims have never heard of the term in their entire life even I only heard of it last year December precisely in nairaland here before I researched it so don't go around boasting that all Muslim to taqiyya using ur own meaning.

Well is the Bible free from taqiyya as u define it? Well let's check it out.

subjects are Shiphrah and Puah, the midwives of Exodus 1. Who were these fine women exactly? Let us turn to Exodus 1:15-22.

The king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, whose names were Shiphrah and Puah,“When you are helping the Hebrew women during childbirth on the delivery stool, if you see that the baby is a boy, kill him; but if it is a girl, let her live.”The midwives, however, feared God and did not do what the king of Egypt had told them to do; they let the boys live. Then the king of Egypt summoned the midwives and asked them, “Why have you done this? Why have you let the boys live?”

The midwives answered Pharaoh, “Hebrew women are not like Egyptian women; they are vigorous and give birth before the midwives arrive.”

So God was kind to the midwives and the people increased and became even more numerous.And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families of their own.

Then Pharaoh gave this order to all his people: “Every Hebrew boy that is born you must throw into the Nile, but let every girl live.” (Exodus 1:15-22)

In summary, Pharoah instructed Shiphrah and Puah to murder newborn Hebrew male babies. They did not follow through with the order as they feared God. They let the boys live. The Phraoah found out that they did not complete their task and summoned them to answer for their failure. They feigned innocence and ignorance by deceiving the king that they could not reach the women on time when they gave birth. Their lives were clearly spared by their deception and God rewarded them for their deed without reproaching their lie in any way. Is this not a clear example of dissimulation?

It is clear then that Exodus 1:15-20 portray two women who saved children through deception. But does that mean that lying is permitted simply because those two women did it? Why would God favour those who commit a heinous sin if indeed lying is in every case without exception a heinous sin? In Exodus 1:15-20 it is clear that not every kind of deception is dishonourable and condemned by God. There can be exceptions especially when life is at stake.

Conservative Jewish scholar and rabbi Reuven Hammer writes:

“Shiphrah and Puah, the Hebrew midwives who resist Pharaoh’s command to kill male babies, are the very symbol of righteous conduct (Exod. 1:17). They are given the highest compliment when the Torah says that “they revered God.

Even the conservative apologist Norman Geisler acknowledges the deed of the midwives as a lie:

“Some would prefer calling this not a “lie” but an “intentional falsification.” Call it what we will, it does not change the fact that it would be morally wrong —unless, of course, one is obeying a higher moral law in so doing. I prefer calling it a “lie” so that it is clearly understood that lying as such (without a higher conflicting law) is wrong.

What Geisler is saying is that in a case where there is a higher moral law at stake the law on lying is superseded hence making it permissible. In the case at hand the sanctity of life and mercy supersede the general unlawfulness of lying. It is through the deception or manipulation of the midwives that God’s plan came to fulfillment as noted by The IVP Women’s Bible Commentary:

“Masters and mistresses of the art of manipulation abound in the biblical story. In some instances manipulation is condemned within the narrative —David’s attempt to manipulate Uriah after impregnating his wife or Jezebel’s orchestration of Naboth’s murder—but some manipulative measures enable the fulfillment of the promises to Abraham. This is true particularly of manipulative actions by women.

In almost all of these stories the character and role of the women as women enables their manipulation to succeed and God’s purposes to be fulfilled…Shiphrah and Puah are by virtue of their midwifery able to save Israelite baby boys…

Did God approve of their manipulation, dissimulation, lying, deception? According to the Christian and Jewish biblical scholars He certainly did. Elizabeth Cady Stanton in her The Woman’s Bible writes:

“The children of Israel multiplied so rapidly that Pharaoh became alarmed, lest the nation should become mightier than the Egyptians, so he ordered all the males at birth to be slain. To this end he had a private interview with the midwives, two women, Shiphrah and Puah, and laid his commands upon them. But they did not obey his orders, and excused themselves on the ground that the Jewish women seldom needed their services. Here we have another example of women who “feared God,” and yet used deception to accomplish what they deemed right.

The Hebrew God seemed well pleased with the deception, and gave them each a house for their fidelity in saving the lives of his chosen children.

Christian theologian and apologist Paul Copan writes:

“The Hebrew midwives Shiphrah and Puah in Egypt (Exod. 1:15-21) engaged in deception. Because they “feared God,” they resisted Pharaoh, who wanted to put innocent Hebrew male babies to death. These women “did not do as the king of Egypt had commanded them, but let the boys live” (v. 17). When confronted by Pharaoh, they used deception: “Because the Hebrew women are not as the Egyptian women; for they are vigorous and give birth before the widwife can get to them.” The divine response? “God was good to the midwives”; and “because the midwives feared God, He established households for them” (vv. 20,21). Note the close connection between fearing God, resisting Pharaoh (including using deception), and receiving God’s approval” [11] (emphasis added)

Paul Copan agrees with the other Christian commentators and scholars that the reason why God blessed the two women is because they saved the Hebrew children through deception.

Commenting on the verses The Applied Old Testament Commentary states:

“Lying is almost always wrong in God’s sight, but there are rare exceptions. The Egyptian midwives deceived Pharaoh, but God honored them for it (Exodus 1:19-21)…” (emphasis added)

You see bro u should research first before posting you were shouting taqiyya and you went to Wikipedia do bring out a definition and was even using an example which is not related to the topic at hand without doing research on it on ur Bible
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Adblg0610: 5:07pm On May 21, 2020
edoairways:

It is on their website
Even if it's boldly displayed on their website,it is still inconsistent with section 38 (2) of the 1999 constitution which states that-No person attending any place of education shall be required to receive instruction or to take part in or attend any religious ceremony or observance if such instruction, ceremony or observance relates to a religion other than his own, or a religion not approved by his parents or guardian.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by edoairways: 5:15pm On May 21, 2020
Adblg0610:
Even if it's boldly displayed on their website,it is still inconsistent with section 38 (2) of the 1999 constitution which states that-No person attending any place of education shall be required to receive instruction or to take part in or attend any religious ceremony or observance if such instruction, ceremony or observance relates to a religion other than his own, or a religion not approved by his parents or guardian.
Stories. As far you aren't coerced then you shouldn't think of applying to such school. It is a private institution hence it nobody dictates how it admin students

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