AJ10:
Iran War thread 5/25 Iraq War was the
tank war in the desert and the smart
missiles, and heavy air power. Tanks
work well in wars in the DESERT. USA
had tanks in Vietnam and Afghanistan
too. THEY DIDN'T HELP. America lost
those wars. Russians tried tanks in
Afthanistan too: lost

America did not lose the Vietnam War. They overpowered the Vietnamese, but lost the overall objective.
Which is stop the spread of communism.
That is why it is said that America lost.

They didn't lose the shooting game. They lost the objective.

post=85527644:
War is the last thing we want in the world.
Let's make love, not war!

what about POLITICAL war do u welcome that?

Psalmy2cute:
not all you're 100 percent right.. but 90% of all terrorist sect in the world claims they're fighting for Allah.. maybe Allah cant fight for himself.. .. and for the case of Saudi Arabia.. they're only being in good terms with the us just to stay relevant.. we all know that.. they say when you cant fight them you join them.. that's what Saudi Arabia is doing.. same Saudi Arabia that is ready to behead their own citizen if they notice he or she Is trying to adopt anything western??

Stop following the gimmick called religion.

Money is the real power.

Money buys technology and protection.

Those that are broke suffer and their land becomes a cesspool of blood.

Typhoonsbane:

Trump obviously don't understand how this wars plays out,he'll realize very soon.

realise what exactly? That America is fighting the first war?

Iran War thread 1/25 Trump is risking a war with Iran & #WWIII . Pompeo wants this war. Trump NEEDS a war to distract from his impeachment & ever worse details leaking. So there is a big push for war in Iran. This is a VERY VERY incredibly BIGLY bad idea. A thread about Iran War
Iran War thread 2/25 The obvious comparison with Iran is Iraq (they are neighbors) hoping it could be fast and 'easy'. Some see parallels to Afghanistan (also neighbor of Iran) the longest war of USA. Others fear Iran could be another Vietnam. Or as bloody as the Korean War.
Iran War thread 3/25 Since WW2 USA has been involved in 'big' wars with 4 nations (excluding the smaller conflicts like Bosnia, Somalia or Syria). Korean war (fought to a draw), Vietnam war (USA lost), Afghanistan war (longest war, still ongoing, can't be won) and Iraq (2 times)
Iran War thread 4/25 So let's start Iran with geography. Iran is a HUGE country. It is as big as North Korea... plus North Vietnam.... plus Afghanistan... and Iraq - COMBINED. Yes Iran is a giant country, not EASY to defeat a LARGE country. But lets look at its terrain...
Iran War thread 5/25 Iraq War was the tank war in the desert and the smart missiles, and heavy air power. Tanks work well in wars in the DESERT. USA had tanks in Vietnam and Afghanistan too. THEY DIDN'T HELP. America lost those wars. Russians tried tanks in Afthanistan too: lost
Iran War thread 6/25 A DRAMATIC difference between neighbors Iraq and Iran, is that Iraq is flatland desert sand. And Iran is MOUNTAINS like.. Afghanistan. Not suitable terrain for tank warfare (for much of the country, there are some plains yes)
Iran War thread 7/25 So then air power. USA has the world's biggest and most powerful air force. BY FAR the strongest in the world. And what is America's favorite air power tool? The remotely piloted 'drone' like the Predator. Unmanned killer in the sky. Nearly unstoppable
Iran War thread 8/25 Who invented the modern remotely piloted drone? Not USA. It was invented by Israel (Tadiran Mastif and IAI Scout). Most Western Air Forces have deployed Israeli Drones. Most drones flying today include Israeli licenced tech. the Predator has Israeli tech...
Iran War thread 9/25 The unmanned remotedly-piloted warplane, the 'drone' is America's favorite tool to fight wars today. And who used them first? Israel. Who used them SECOND? A DECADE before USA deployed drones in a war?... yeah... IRAN (against Iraq in its decade- long war)
Iran War thread 10/25 The USA has never fought an adversary who HAD DRONES. Iran has LONGER MILITARY experience using drones IN BATTLE, than USA. and Iran was the first nation to deploy OFFENSIVE weapons onboard drones (when even Israel only used them for 'spying'). Nasty enemy!
Iran War thread 11/25 Lets skip airplanes and tanks. Lets go to the most expensive weapon system ever deployed - US Navy's mighty aircraft carriers. USA used air power from carriers in most of its wars including Korea, Vietnam (John McCain was a NAVY pilot) and Iraq..
Iran War thread 12/25 Iran does NOT have aircraft carriers. But they have the WORST enemy for carriers instead - SUBMARINES. North Korea did not have submarines during Korean war. North Vietnam didn't have subs in Vietnam war. Iraq didn't have subs in either of the Iraq wars
Iran War thread 13/25 Since World War 2, USA has not fought ANY war against ANY rival including the small wars Somalia, Syria and Bosnia - where the adversary operated submarines. Iran has submarines. They CHANGE the combat equation at sea - TOTALLY.
Iran War thread 14/25 Lets talk population. Iran's population is near 90 million. That is about same as 3 out of the four rivals I mentioned: Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea and North Vietnam. Take THREE of those four, the population (when they had their war) is about 90 million
Iran War thread 15/25 Then lets talk about INDUSTRIALIZATION. Some idiots think 'Iranians are beduins' like 'arabs'. Iranians are not arabic people. They are PERSIANS who are related to Europeans. Iran is an INDUSTRIALIZED country, similar to Southern European countries
Iran War thread 16/25 When USA fought North Korea, it was a peasant nation. North Vietnam was a farming peasant nation. Afghanistan was and still is one of poorest and least literate countries on planet. Iraq was an oil-only economy. Iranians are EDUCATED and DIVERSE economy
Iran War thread 17/25 I do not mean that Iran could 'win' a war it STARTED against USA (like say a Pearl Harbor style sneak attack). I mean Iran is FAR worse rival than Vietnam or Afghanistan, a war USA cannot - CANNOT win. It would be a DECADES long quagmire of death and blood
Iran War thread 18/25 When USA fought Iraq (twice) that 'nation' was in effective civil war, among THREE factions (Sunnis closely aligned with Syria, Shias aligned with Kuwait and Iran, and the Kurds). Iran is a HOMOGENOUS nation, essentially all Persians. Not DIVIDED
Iran War thread 19/25 Earlier in 2019 Trump talked of 120,000 troops for Iran War. HAHAHA. Iran fought a DECADE- LONG war, when Saddam Hussein yes Iraq attacked. With 600,000 soldiers! When France & Soviets FULLY supported Iraq, & UK & USA supported modestly Iraq & nobody Iran
Iran War thread 20/25 Saddam had superiority in tanks, airplanes, soldiers, plus Saddam had MILITARY support of essentially all major weapons-providers. And IRAN HAD NO SUPPORT (in fact, Israel secretly helped Iran a little bit). Yet Iran pushed Iraq back, to stalemate
Iran War thread 21/25 Iran has what Vietnam had - Vietnam had ALREADY defeated Japan & France, by the time US went in. Iran has what Afghanistan had - Afghanistan had ALREADY defeated Britain & Soviets (Russians) before US went in. And USA could not win its OWN wars vs VN & Afgh
Iran War thread 22/25 I do not mean, that Iran could in any way 'win' against the USA (like invade Texas or Alaska haha). But the USA CANNOT DEFEAT an enemy like Iran, this strong, this big, this competent, this HEAVILY ARMED with ADVANCED weapons who is UNIFIED & experienced
Iran War thread 23/25 Trump & Pompeo are pushing for a war against Iran. Trump wants ANY war to distract from his problems. A war in Iran would be NOTHING like the 'easy' wars in Iraq. War in Iran would be like the mess in Vietnam & the unending war in Afghanistan - only WORSE
Iran War thread 24/25 If Iran had done something HORRIBLE - like how Saddam Hussein INVADED and took over Kuwait - then maybe it might make sense to build a coalition for war. What we should know is that TRUMP's lender - SAUDI ARABIA - want American soldiers to go die in Iran
Iran War thread 25/25 Saudi Arabia sees Iran as its regional rival. While both are Muslim nations, they have differing religious views (Iran is Shia, Saudi is Sunni). Saudis would love nothing more, than to see Iranian blood spilled - by AMERICAN soldiers dying there. Wrong war!

PS A war with Iran will not be quick, easy as Iraq A war with Iran will be as bloody as North Korea A war with Iran will be as unwinnable as Vietnam A war with Iran will be as long as Afghanistan USA will be as hated as with Vietnam Americans will hate this war like Vietnam

rusher14:


Stop following the gimmick called religion.

Money is the real power.

Money buys technology and protection.

Those that are broke suffer and their land becomes a cesspool of blood.

Infact thumbs up, you just said it all

wwwihy:
US has been fighting in IRAQ and Afghanistan for 19 years,yet the Countries are in disarray, insecurity, fighting, killings and bombing everywhere and every day despite the Military might.

The two Countries are in worse conditions 19 years after, with peace never in sight

This shows that war is never the solution.

You don't understand how it works.... America never fights a war where they are no spoils....they use the term "terrorism" to invade any land of interest.

CSTR2:

America did not lose the Vietnam War. They overpowered the Vietnamese, but lost the overall objective.
Which is stop the spread of communism.
That is why it is said that America lost.

They didn't lose the shooting game. They lost the objective.

listen to yourself first... u lose 1:0 in a football match and u hit the pole or woodwork twice and u said u did not lose it just that u did not hit the d back of the net

philip0906:

But you watch Al Jazeera that feeds you with apologetic and sympathetic news about terrorists?

Your plate of hot beans though.

best TV station so far

Stalwert:



An average bigoted Christian on nairaland lies 90% of the time. When Muslims conquered Spain they never tried forcing everyone to convert, the moment Christians recaptured the country, the began killing off Muslims till there were no Muslims in Spain. Muslim once ruled India yet till this date the Hindus are the majority, no Muslim army every set foot in Indonesia but today it is the largest Muslim country. Without lies, you bigots have nothing to offer, you accuse Muslims of crimes your fellow bigots wage against the rest of humanity.

@op better Iraq demands US leaves it is clear they have no regards for the people.

Okk.... Say that again without crying

Typhoonsbane:

Trump obviously don't understand how this wars plays out,he'll realize very soon.

What did you expect from an erratic leader, a loose cannon?

Afamed:

Who are the brain behind ISIS in the first place?

The CIA of course.

Fash20:
Na wah ooo... You com peson country in the name of fighting terrorist come opportunity assassinate your rival... He no good at all

Iraq... wants the US and IRAN... to leave them alone and not to fight in their country...

Mine is that IRAN... took their play to far ooo
Remember the drone.. well one will say its not human... in short eheee.. the matter get as e bi..

Who knows it might be the beginning of the End.. cos The Bible never lies....!!

Bugie16:
Manna, make love bawo. nor be sexuality section be this o .

Lol .
That is why we did not type 'let's have sex'

We know una for dis forum.
Lol

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post=85530775:

Lol .
That is why we did not type 'let's have sex'

We know una for dis forum.
Lol

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AJ10:


listen to yourself first... u lose 1:0 in a football match and u hit the pole or woodwork twice and u said u did not lose it just that u did not hit the d back of the net

When you say lose, you need to be specific.

Many people believe America was beaten black and blue due to a superior fire power.

Sirjamo:
The Americans are in every single Muslim country either directly or indirectly. Wherever there are Muslims including Nigeria, they meddle in their affairs. If not for Russia and China, America would have nuked some Islamic countries since a very long time ago.

This is the type of injustice and forceful occupation of Muslim countries that breeded Al - Qaeda and ISIS !!!

OK, what of Boko boys?

And at the end of the age.For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there will be famines, plagues, and earthquakes in various places.
The fulfillment of the scriptures is coming to pass.

maasoap:


What did you expect from an erratic leader, a loose cannon?

These fools littered all around this platform think war is like basketball where you count scores and declare the person with be highest shot winner, no one truly wins a way,both countries will be messed up.

Bossontop:
Omo hope say dah bridge get capacity to carry all those pipu??

My thought too.

LamidicownuBSS:


OK, what of Boko boys?

Boko haram is now sponsored by ISIS, do the math

Sirjamo:
The Americans are in every single Muslim country either directly or indirectly. Wherever there are Muslims including Nigeria, they meddle in their affairs. If not for Russia and China, America would have nuked some Islamic countries since a very long time ago.

This is the type of injustice and forceful occupation of Muslim countries that breeded Al - Qaeda and ISIS !!!

America is there to checkmate their evil Islamic expansion.
So keep quiet over an issue you dunno.

LabDNA:


If not for the US, you muslims would have forced everyone to convert and do your will with the instrument of violence.

Even the Russians and Chinese do not trust you muslims, that's why they keep the Chenchenya muslims and Uigur muslims who are respectively in their countries on a very short leash.

God bless you, bros... Majority of these fvcking muslims are violence oriented. I wish the Northern Nigeria can be destroyed!

As a US Airforce vet., I remember being in Iraq in 2006 and all we listen to in our helmets was the song by "Bloodhound gang - The roof is on fire"

Very testosterone booming indeed... "We don't need no water let tha muther-Fuckers burn, burn muther-Fuckers, burn"

Kill all those fvcking terrorists!

Bossontop:
Omo hope say dah bridge get capacity to carry all those pipu??

Though what yli said is completely out of the box,but one can't help but laugh because it's fvcking funny that that's what you're concerned about.

FlyoruB:
The demand by the Iraqis that the u.s leave their country can be considered a major diplomatic coup by Tehran and a big slap to America, after spending trillions of dollars and wasting so many American lives, only to be disgracefully asked to leave by those they paid with American blood to 'liberate' American misadventures in the Middle East are always bound to fail from the very beginning.

Yeah it's unfair to the US,cos in truth they've spent a lot of money and helped in many ways not without their selfish interest though, anywho I hope it doesn't result to a war, I'm praying for a last minute intervention.

RealLordZeus:

Bros!
This is not a case of Brain washing or being pushed by Americans.

Terrorism are mostly stemmed as ripple effect from some previous act.

Let me try to break it down sir.
If someone( God forbid, I totally did not mean this and I rebuke it for you) was to come into your family compound, murdering everybody and you happen to see the person face but you manage to escape from the attack. The person then occupy your compound after the sacrilege act, how will you feel seeing the person everyday.
Pls note I'm not a terrorist apologist, but it is just what it is .

The Igbo tribe of Nigeria are still embittered about the 1966 civil war, note that this is a war not someone invading someone else land. The bitterness is still there that they still have these resentment against other major tribes 50+ years after war. Recently there have some massive protest and co, can we label them as terrorist and regard their activities as unjust. You may say they are not bombing people, that's true and the reason is because they don't have the opportunity yet and also there are some reasonable individuals that understand the nature if the war and also what they stand to gain in one Nigeria.

About your claim that there is no other terrorist aside Muslim ppl. Pls go through this Wikipedia article about list of terrorist incident in the US
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents
You will be surprised that Muslims/Muslim countries does not take up to half.

I agree that there is need for serious orientation in the middle East but the Americans should also stop fingering the crying child. It's against humanity

God help Muslims be that

Sirjamo:
The Americans are in every single Muslim country either directly or indirectly. Wherever there are Muslims including Nigeria, they meddle in their affairs. If not for Russia and China, America would have nuked some Islamic countries since a very long time ago.

This is the type of injustice and forceful occupation of Muslim countries that breeded Al - Qaeda and ISIS !!!

Sorry. Use Panadol to dull ur pain. If it doesn't work, blow urself up!

Bossontop:
Omo hope say dah bridge get capacity to carry all those pipu??

Hahahahahahahahaha...you think say na Otedola bridge?

Fash20:
Na wah ooo... You com peson country in the name of fighting terrorist come opportunity assassinate your rival... He no good at all

who first find trouble?

America benefitted more from the war. Billions of barrels of Iraqi oil and artifacts were stolen by US.
quote author=FlyoruB post=85527629]The demand by the Iraqis that the u.s leave their country can be considered a major diplomatic coup by Tehran and a big slap to America, after spending trillions of dollars and wasting so many American lives, only to be disgracefully asked to leave by those they paid with American blood to 'liberate' American misadventures in the Middle East are always bound to fail from the very beginning. [/quote]

philip0906:

But you watch Al Jazeera that feeds you with apologetic and sympathetic news about terrorists?

Your plate of hot beans though.

same way they're coming for ipob terrorist very soon