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Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 2:36pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Unlike what you'd think if you're not in the Middlebelt, they are not willing to go with Arewastan (core North) in the event of a break up. Most of them detest the idea to the very last! Now, looking at some dynamics at play. These people are not power desperate. They would be able to sit together and discuss their way forward. Secondly, they don't have the curse of oil. They are great farmers (the best in the whole country actually) and all that oil politics and strive will not come in. I think they'll make a stable country if they go it alone. Coming to the Niger Delta, they're more developed and educated than the Middlebelt and also filthy rich due to the abundance of Crude Oil in the region. However, the desperation for power amongst them is unrivaled across the country. Can they sit together and chart a common course, without resorting to show of force, in the event of a breakup? It looks unlikely. Between the two, which in your estimation can form a stable working country, devoid of political strife? |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Yohans(m): 2:41pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
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Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Yohans(m): 2:42pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
I give it to the middle belt 3 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by DanDeeBoss(m): 2:53pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Which are the middlebelt states?? |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Sammy07: 2:55pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
None of them... Both regions have huge differences within them. DanDeeBoss: Benue State, Plateau State, Taraba State, Niger State, Kogi State, Nassarawa State, Kwara State, Adamawa State, and the Federal Capital Territory. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by parcifal: 3:11pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Middle belt, as you purported, are not as united in totality. It consists the highest number of people from different ethnic background. Nasarawa state alone can boast of over fifteen different ethnic groups whom, to my knowledge are not Working for the interest of the other. So if they should be made a country, there surely will still be internal power tussles. With proper planning they can survive through agriculture but I doubt that because they are land locked. Niger delta can survive more because aside oil, they have other States like delta state that can support them through agricultural exports. remember they have sea ports. 2 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by kayfra: 3:14pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Both of them are not viable. Tiv and Jukun crisis Ijaw and Urhobo and Itshekiri crisis Fulani crisis Etc They are the reason we still have one Nigeria 5 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Spicycat(f): 3:17pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Did i just read "Coming to the Niger Delta, they're more developed and educated than the Middlebelt " @islayer what did you smoke this afternoon? How did you come to this conclusion, what are the criteria used before arriving to this ridiculous statistics, there's only one tribe in Nigeria that speak with such mundane statistics, what a funny fellow 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by tartar9(m): 3:23pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
All I know is that the SE will be worse than South Sudan if we break up. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 3:35pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Spicycat: Abuja alone is not enough to make the Middlebelt more developed. Abi which state again? No make me laugh this afternoon. 2 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 3:39pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
parcifal: So if a country is landlocked it is automatically unviable? Nawa o. The focus is on political strife post breakup. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 3:40pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
tartar9: I didn't mention South East. 6 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 3:45pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
kayfra: The Fulani can never lord it over others in a Middlebelt country. Don't you know the make up of the Middlebelt? And intercommunal crises based on petty squabbles like land ownership is not strong enough. In their own country they can discuss proper modalities like boundary adjustments and all that. I'm talking of internal power tussles that can destabilize a country. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by TooMuchStuff: 4:21pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Kinda like the idea wallahi...! Even though am more of the mix than anyone else. But it's never gonna work. Old wounds always leave behind old scars.....! In middlebelt and South south have three things in common Christianity, Education, Rich Mineral Resources. Also common enemies of Fulanis, Islam, Sharia and its associated trademark of Poverty. 7 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by saaron(m): 4:30pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Forming a stable and successful nation has nothing to do with mineral resources. If that where true, then Japan will still be a third world nation. It also has nothing to do with geographic location ie lack of access to the seas and ocean. Of that were true, then Switzerland will still be a developing country. All that is required in forming a stable nation is the 'Will' to form a govt that reflects the wishes of the people. If a nation is born and the people have no impute on how their govt will be formed then that nation will never be stable - Case in point Nigeria. It's very critical that the people of a new born nation be involved in the set up of the govt to avoid domination and concentration of power by a people. For a nation to be truely stable, the govt must be design in such a way that power is balance across all people. A govt where power is balanced across all people in the geographic location is a democratic govt. A govt that is inclusive, democratic and appreciates differences and diversity of the people will go a long way to establish a stable country. A govt that is seperated from religion. Seperation of state and religion is a must for a stable nation. A govt that provides a level playing ground for all people irrespective of their race, ethnicity or religion to grow, develop and advance at their own pace. If Middle Belt or people from other regions can come together and achieve the above, these nations will emerge be the most stable and prosperous countries to ever come out of Africa. 2 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iornenge81(m): 4:32pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Sammy07:Take out Taraba and Adamawa, those are Northeast States 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by kayfra: 4:35pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
iSlayer: The most organized tribe in the middle belt are the Fulani. They still have that emirate structure to lean on. |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Yohans(m): 5:18pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
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Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Yohans(m): 5:19pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
kayfra: U are joking right 3 Likes |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Yohans(m): 5:23pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
TooMuchStuff: I think u have a point here |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by saaron(m): 5:31pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
tartar9:Can you explain in detail the cause of the conflict in South Sudan? |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 5:36pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
kayfra: Hahaha. It's okay please. |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by saaron(m): 5:37pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
kayfra:There's nothing like fulani emirate in Middle Belt. |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 5:39pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Yohans: He does not have the slightest clue of what he's saying. This is someone who is fond of attacking other groups. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by DanDeeBoss(m): 5:41pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
iSlayer:Was just looking at his comment |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iSlayer: 5:43pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
saaron: 1 Like
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Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by iskoki(m): 6:07pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Don't confuse Middlebelt with North Central. North Central is a geopolitical zone in Nigeria that comprises 6 states : 1. Plateau. 2. Benue. 3. Kwara. 4. Kogi. 5. Nassarawa 6. Niger. However, the Middlebelt is a conglomeration of the tribes that are found in the central part of Nigeria. People of middlebelt include most of the tribes mentioned in the 6 aforementioned states plus tribes from parts of the following : 1. Kaduna - Southern part to be specific. 2. Taraba - Jujun etc 3. Kebbi. - Zuru 4. Bauchi 5. Adamawa 6. Taraba. 7. Gombe. There are a few other tribes I wouldn't be able to mention. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by kayfra: 6:44pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
saaron:Ilorin, Bida, Gwari, Keffi, Lafia etc iSlayer: Ilorin, Bida, Gwari, Keffi, Lafia etc Niger, Kwara, Nassarawa etc. All have Fulani emirates Most of you don't even know or understand the country. Just clueless people all over 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by nlPoster: 6:50pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Trick question. |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by SammieRexx(m): 7:02pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Did the OP just said SS is more educated than middle belt.....ogbeni go get your facts right and stop giving fake statistics from the crevice of your hut |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by Spicycat(f): 7:52pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
kayfra: You don't know what you are saying, the Fulani's are visitors and their numbers count to nothing. If we want them out we'll flush them in a twinkle of an eye. 1 Like |
Re: Between The Middlebelt And Niger Delta, Which Can Form A Stable Country? by kayfra: 7:54pm On Jan 11, 2020 |
Spicycat: They control a lot of the structures and also lean on outside support. Hence, my initial statement about the most organized, not the highest numbers |
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