Sprumbaba:


Na CNN cause am. Some people are easily brainwashed by the media.

This week alone. Trade deal with China and USMCA passed in the Senate.

You will never see the good things on Fake News Clinton News Network, only Iran Iran Iran, Impeachment Impeachment Impeachment, Climate Change Climate Change. That's why I watch Fox News.

Sprumbaba:


You are so uneducated. I am a business owner in the US and I benefited from Trump tax. Tax was not for the wealthy alone. It benefits businesses.

You lied again as the US economy lost 3 millions job 10 to 11 years ago. I was part of it and I got laid off as well.

Moreover, never state anything you have no knowledge about. Over 60,000 manufacturing companies moved to the US since Trump presidency.

Educate yourself

The left are busy complaining about Trump tax cuts when it benefitted everybody. Workers now have more money to go home with. I hope Warren or Sanders win 2020, and increase taxes for the middle class to up to 40%.

chewwie:

No, all thanks to Buhari. We have a failing economy in Nigeria, you blame Buhari, they have a booming economy in the USA and you can't credit Trump and you aren't biased.

Your comparison to Nigeria is way off. We're talking about the US here (Worlds largest economy worth a staggering $21trillion) stop trying to deflect. It's silly.

The problem also being that there is currently a lying, narcissistic, racist man at the helm of what is also the worlds most powerful country. Yet, somehow, some black africans (assuming that you're) are blindly trooping to support him. He obviously represents everything that is against your interests but no problem to y'all, as long as he kills some muslims. mumu people

EnkayDezign4:


Chai oga why the lies?. Which 60,000 manufacturing companies came to the US under trump? When in fact the US has lost appr. 60,000 factories in the last decade (mind you they're never coming back not even Trump can bring them back). Also the 3 million jobs that were lost 10 to 11 years ago was right after George Bush's reckless tenure when America entered into a recession. Now we know how Obama famously bailed out the banks and auto industry then. THAT is largely the reason for America's blossoming economy till date and not stupid Trump and his stupid policies of regression.

Anyone who understands Anerica's politics and it's 2 party system will understand that Republican Govt's always ruin the economy (Mostly by funding costly wars) and leave it to Democratic Govt's to fix. That's exactly the same script if not worse that is playing out with Trumps republican govt. Government of zombies.

See unlike you i'll back up my claims with some sources. So readers will understand how much BS trump and his supporters always spread.

https://qz.com/851531/manufacturing-jobs-the-us-is-losing-factory-jobs-faster-than-trump-can-save-them/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/mar/24/donald-trump/trump-china-joined-wto-us-has-lost-60000-factories/

What boatload of nonsense! In November alone, 266,000 jobs were created, 80,000 more than the historical national average and 40 percent were manufacturing jobs. Who caused the USA to lose it's manufacturing jobs to China? Yeah, Obama with his stupid dealings with China and his brain dead NAFTA agreement, Bernie Sanders said so himself. Trump's trade deal with China will bring millions of manufacturing jobs back, help American farmers immensely not to talk of his USMCa.

Quelme:
Iran's assets were first frozen by U.S. president

Jimmy Carter in 1979, after revolutionaries
overthrew the U.S.-allied Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi 's administration and took American hostages. After the Iranian Revolution in 1979, the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran, banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets.

Many of the assets were then unfrozen in 1981 after the Algiers Accords were signed and the hostage crisis. At the time of the 1979 revolution, the Pentagon re-sold some $400 million in Iranian military equipment already paid for by the deposed government, and the money was "placed in an escrow account".

Much of the frozen cash includes Iran's income from selling a limited amount of oil prior to the lifting of the sanctions, when Iran could legally sell oil but could not transfer the money back to Iran, because doing so was illegal under U.S. sanctions.

THE FACTS:

When Iran signed the multinational deal to restrain its nuclear development in return for being freed from sanctions, it regained access to its own assets, which had been frozen abroad. There was no $150 billion gift from the U.S. treasury or other countries. Iran was allowed to get its money back.

The $1.8 billion refers to a separate matter, also misstated by the president going back to before the 2016 election.

A payout of roughly that amount did come from the U.S. treasury. It was to pay an old IOU.
In the 1970s, Iran paid the U.S. $400 million for military equipment that was never delivered because the government was overthrown and diplomatic relations ruptured. After the nuclear deal, the U.S. and Iran announced they had settled the matter, with the U.S. agreeing to pay the $400 million principal along with about $1.3 billion in interest.

The $400 million was paid in cash and flown to Tehran on a cargo plane. The arrangement provided for the interest to be paid later.


Shows you know nothing about the nuclear deal.


EOD!!!!!

If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence?

21cents:

bruh not everyone here are illiterates. the money belonged to Iran in the first place. monies that were withheld during the sanctions. stop forcing that stale lie down our throats here.

They were frozen assets, Uganda did the same to Nigeria under Obasanjo's military regime, they're yet to release the money.
If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence? That's how brain dead Obama's deal was.

Blindersoff:


The so called $150b is Iranian money and not new money given to them by USA. This is why Fox news will always deceive people like you. Iran had money in US possession and Obama told them we would trade this with you for this nuclear pact. We will release a part of your money and you sign this deal and Iran agreed.

To me that is great diplomacy and a peaceful way of resolving issues. it was a win win but people like you who listen to Trump who lies 500 times a day and to Fox news a Republican media house would believe when they simply say "The dems gave Iran a plane load of money" and deliberately not telling you that the so called money actually belonged to iran to begin with.

If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence? That's how brain dead Obama's deal was.

tartar9:

You're among those who takes Trump's absurd lies hook,line,sinker.
You mean Iran's own money
The money to be released were seized assets(an act I consider bullying in the first place) of Iran owning to the same nuclear controversy.Once they've accepted the terms why shouldn't you release them
u be thief....

If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence? That's how brain dead Obama's deal was.

EnkayDezign4:


Your comparison to Nigeria is way off. We're talking about the US here (Worlds largest economy worth a staggering $21trillion) stop trying to deflect. It's silly.

The problem also being that there is currently a lying, narcissistic, racist man at the helm of what is also the worlds most powerful country. Yet, somehow, some black africans (assuming that you're) are blindly trooping to support him. He obviously represents everything that is against your interests but no problem to y'all, as long as he kills some muslims. mumu people

1. I don't understand, if a country's economy is poor, it's the President's fault, whose fault is it when the economy is booming?
2. Here we go again with the racist penchant. Please give me ONE, just one instance of racism from Trump and I'll agree with you and denounce Trump here and now!

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somehow:
Can you stop repeating this rubbish or are you immune to truth and correction?
So if you kept money in my house and because we had a quarrel, you decided to not let me have access to it, but later after some conditions have been met decided to release part of my money to me, that means you are dashing me or giving me money?

Please stop making the world think this is how dump most Nigerians are!

[/s] u just spit out ignorance

gregyboy:



Nigga be glad ...

Give boko boys or even fulani people right to guns and watch them raid Nigeria...

I guess you can find your answer on my comment

but America are the First Nation to use nuclear weapon, so what’s your point

chewwie:

What boatload of nonsense! In November alone, 266,000 jobs were created, 80,000 more than the historical national average and 40 percent were manufacturing jobs. Who caused the USA to lose it's manufacturing jobs to China? Yeah, Obama with his stupid dealings with China and his brain dead NAFTA agreement, Bernie Sanders said so himself. Trump's trade deal with China will bring millions of manufacturing jobs back, help American farmers immensely not to talk of his USMCa.

Oga again you're going off topic! We were talking about factories lost in a decade amounting to 60,000. This is a period that even precedes Obama. The US economy was wrecked after being engaged in expensive wars during bush's era. Now little wonder why he had very little focus on what the economic outlook was back then. Obama was basically handed an ailing economy that he managed to revive and now the people have put back a republican govt that is so out of touch with diplomacy that it is cancelling, and re-branding carefully crafted deals (The USMCA is basically the same thing as NAFTA literally, it is just a revision with name change). And you ask about the racism when it isn't clear to you that all Trump is doing is cancelling deals, and policies with Obama's signature just so he can remake them into his. He really has nothing better to offer!!

Again if you're oblivious to all these things then I'm sorry I can't help you. Look and with China ehn see nothing can be done about them, they've already become a global player, and America has to learn to accept it sooner or later. Their economic trajectory has gone way past the stage of being curtailed. This is a lost fight Trump is fighting (It all boils down to his supremacist mindset; thinking he wields imperial might on new age advanced economy) he is joking.

LOMBARDY:
But didn't Trump say the first deal was horrendous?

I said it that the only thing making Trump hate that Nuclear deal was because of Obama's signature, nothing else! Now he wants to replace it with "Trump deal"

If na you be Iran, you for gree? Be honest. After placing dem under biting sanctions

The Bold is not true. I guess you don't really know the details of the JCPOA.

Trump's argument is that the deal should also include Iran halting their financial support for proxies in the middle east (Hamas, Hezbollah etc and other terrorist organisations)

Secondly, he also wants the deal to include Iran halting their production of ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles).

My brother, if you care about your country as POTUS, you would not want IRAN to have ICBMs. Stopping their Nuclear Program is not enough, because Iran would still look for other ways to deliver WMDs to Los Angeles or Las Vegas when they begin to acquire ICBMs.

It is in the interest of the US, Europe and the civilised world to ensure Iran don't acquire those capabilities, especially now that they have the financial leverage to force Iran into submission.

Trump and Obama may have their disagreements but don't be too emotional to think Trump is the bad guy.
America as a country is a bully for right or wrong reasons; that includes Obama.

chewwie:

1. I don't understand, if a country's economy is poor, it's the President's fault, whose fault is it when the economy is booming?
2. Here we go again with the racist penchant. Please give me ONE, just one instance of racism from Trump and I'll agree with you and denounce Trump here and now!

Yaaay! Haba bros! No comment on this one but i'll very much oblige.




1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”

1988: In a commencement speech at Lehigh University, Trump spent much of his speech accusing countries like Japan of “stripping the United States of economic dignity.” This matches much of his current rhetoric on China.

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.


1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”

2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”

2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”

2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”

2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a ”carnival barker.” (The research has found a strong correlation between “birtherism,” as this conspiracy theory is called, and racism.) Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.

2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”

Read more: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

I'm actually laughing while posting this because the list is endless and it took less than 5 seconds to generate a ton of results chronicling Trumps racism. LOL Have you forgotten he started the Obama birtherism movement? man take several back seats. You really are stupidly naive to even try and defend Trump against racism.

joyandfaith:


you cannot separate uk and us

They speak as if USA fell from the sky, apart from native Americans which are now extinct the people u call citizens of USA are Europeans whose ancestors travelled to America centuries ago and exterminated the natives, the British,french,Spanish, etc all have hands in the creation on America. They are brother's from the same father and mother. So those expecting Europe and USA to be at each other's throats is daft

Blindersoff:
I saw this coming when Trump broke the deal originally signed and thus placing power of negotiation in the hands of Iran and no longer in US hands. The guy goofed

There is nothing in Iran's hands...they are sinking into deep shit, more and more...worst case scenario, they will target their nuclear plants and installation.

chewwie:

If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence?

Your comparison are world apart...

Crayfish09:


Honestly there are too many people with empty skulls on this forum. Obama didn't give them money from tax payers. The money actually belonged to Iran before it was seized by usa. Is this how you move about displaying your stupidity and ignorance?

No Sir, we already said/know its Iran's money, congratulations on not reading the previous responses. Now run along with your supposed empty skull

golddust6000:
but America are the First Nation to use nuclear weapon, so what’s your point

Either your are an Islamist or you either not in this earth all your life


So pick from the two i would then answer your question

sunnyeinstein:


No Sir, we already said/know its Iran's money, congratulations on not reading the previous responses. Now run along with your supposed empty skull

Very weak and lame attempt at damage control

chewwie:

Japan happened to have been biting more than they could chew, served them right.

did they bite more than Germany, UK, Russia etc?
None of those fully in the war used such a weapon on civilian population

japan attacked a military base, not civilian but the coward america with no morality went to attack 2 civilian cities with atomic bomb.

cowards are bullies no matter how you try to dance around it.

gregyboy:



Either your are an Islamist or you either not in this earth all your life


So pick from the two i would then answer your question

You need intelligent conversation, u lack it in so many ways. I am an Igbo man from IMO state.

Righteousness89:

Obama deal was the most Terrible deal a World power could make..

How do u give your Sworn Enemies $150 billion dollars cash?

Seems Many of you here know nothing about the deals..
u just flip through blogs and comment

you people just follow news on nairaland and say rubbish.... the 150b$ was irAn's fixed asset in the usa

sunnyeinstein:


The liberal apologists here don't understand that the last paragraph is why Obama's deal is bad on all levels.
Small money Iran had they were bankrolling terrorism left right and centre. If they have a nuke, with their craziness and radicalism they'd burn down the middle east. Ordinary surface to air missiles they cannot restrain themselves from using anyhow, shooting down an airliner. Now imagine its a nuke they can use, they'd start WW3!

usa also brought down a passenger plane back in the days whats your point exactly

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segunmelvin:
you people just follow news on nairaland and say rubbish.... the 150b$ was irAn's fixed asset in the usa

[/s] The Assets u gave Iran?

I support Iran on this Note, They need to use this Opportunity when it last

Righteousness89:
[s][/s] The Assets u gave Iran?

illiterates always think they have an opinion

SultanOfAbia:
Abeg Fr. Mbaka, When War World 3 Wan Start??
Boys are Ready!!!

NA WHO DE BEG DEM SEF

EnkayDezign4:


Chai oga why the lies?. Which 60,000 manufacturing companies came to the US under trump? When in fact the US has lost appr. 60,000 factories in the last decade (mind you they're never coming back not even Trump can bring them back). Also the 3 million jobs that were lost 10 to 11 years ago was right after George Bush's reckless tenure when America entered into a recession. Now we know how Obama famously bailed out the banks and auto industry then. THAT is largely the reason for America's blossoming economy till date and not stupid Trump and his stupid policies of regression.

Anyone who understands Anerica's politics and it's 2 party system will understand that Republican Govt's always ruin the economy (Mostly by funding costly wars) and leave it to Democratic Govt's to fix. That's exactly the same script if not worse that is playing out with Trumps republican govt. Government of zombies.

See unlike you i'll back up my claims with some sources. So readers will understand how much BS trump and his supporters always spread.

https://qz.com/851531/manufacturing-jobs-the-us-is-losing-factory-jobs-faster-than-trump-can-save-them/

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/mar/24/donald-trump/trump-china-joined-wto-us-has-lost-60000-factories/

I gave up when you stated Trump lost jobs in 10 years.

Sprumbaba:


I gave up when you stated Trump lost jobs in 10 years.

You lack reading comprehension. I said the US lost 60K factories (not jobs) in 10 years. Yet you falsely claimed Trump has brought the same amount 60K factories within 3 years. mumu

chewwie:
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If a drug dealer is caught and sentenced to jail and his assets seized, will his assets be released after he finish serving his sentence? That's how brain dead Obama's deal was.[/s]

Your analogy is exceedingly dumb.

EnkayDezign4:



You lack reading comprehension. I said the US lost 60K factories (not jobs) in 10 years. Yet you falsely claimed Trump has brought the same amount 60K factories within 3 years. mumu

Lol. Until you mentioned mumu. I can see you are a complete empty head dunce.