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Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Lukgaf(m): 7:40am On Feb 07
Alhamdulillaah wasalaatu wasalaam ‘ala rasuulillaah

It is not allowed because it helping one another in sin and transgression. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not permissible to work in a riba-based institution even if a person is working as a driver or guard, because that means that he is working for the riba-based institution, which implies that he approves of it. For whoever disapproves of a thing would not work to support it, so if he is working for it that implies that he approves of it, and the one who approves of something that is haraam is also guilty of sin. But if he is directly involved in recording transactions, writing, sending and depositing etc, then he is undoubtedly dealing directly with something haraam. It was proven in the hadeeth of Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the one who consumes riba, the one who pays it, the two who witness it and the one who writes it down. He said: “They are all the same.” Fataawa Islamiyyah. 2/401

The Standing Committee was asked about a man who worked as a night guard for one of the banks, and he had nothing to do with the bank’s transactions – should he continue with this job or leave?

They replied: It is not permissible for a Muslim to work as a guard for banks that deal with riba, because this is a kind of cooperating in sin and transgression, and Allaah has forbidden that as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “but do not help one another in sin and transgression” [al-Maa'idah 5:2] Most of the banks deal with riba, so you have to look for a halaal means of earning a living, not this way. And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. Fataawa Islamiyyah, 2/401, 402

May Allah grant us understanding of His religion

Source: Fish class foundations

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Rashduct4luv(m): 8:40am On Feb 07
We ask Allah to grant us halal job and earnings!

Let's advice our wards and kin on their choice of course. All those problematic courses that are irrelevant "deenically" should be jettisoned.

E.g. Insurance, Marketing (especially for a Muslimah), Philosophy, among others.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Grace001: 9:25am On Feb 07
As much as it’s important to be tolerant to each other its important to remind you Muslim guys that country like Nigeria is a secular state where you can’t practice your Islam 100% except you guys want to form a caliphate just like your Muslim brothers are doing up north. It’s only countries like Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait, Dubai etc you can practice Islam 100% to the fullness. Where everything is being done according to Islam faith, Islamic banking system,women don’t board the same car with men, Women don’t use the same hospital with men “i.e a male doctor don’t attend to a female patient” etc with these settings you have the privilege to practice Islam fully without going into sin as you claim

Nigeria being a secular state don’t have an Islamic arrangement. Transportation system allow both male and female to board the same car, male doctor attend to female patient Non Islamic banking is everywhere in the country. So these makes it difficult to practice Islam 100% because at a point you’d have no choice than to board a cab with a male, to work in a non Islamic banking sector except you want to remain jobless if such offer comes.

So please our Muslim brothers and sisters always remember and have it a the back of your mind. Nigeria is not Saudi or Kuwait Oman Qatar or Dubai so don’t pressure the government with unnecessary protest to do certain things for you guys in Islamic arrangement . Because that MURIC organization sometimes forget Nigeria is not Saudi.

Same goes to our Christian brothers and sisters. Nigeria is not Jerusalem, Bethlehem or territory of the Israelite tribe. So enough of this nuisance all in the name of planting churches in every corner of the street.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Badonasty(m): 9:26am On Feb 07
May almighty Allah forgive us all

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by NuissancePolice(m): 9:28am On Feb 07
La ila ilala! Two loads of bullsh*t in one day. What the fvck is wrong with these moslem zombies? Please guys, just visit this link to check out this other bullsh*t by these guys

https://www.nairaland.com/5673552/dog-house-reduces-good-deeds

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For crying out loud, someone is saying I lack common sense because I call this bull crap. To her, the post makes sense. See image attached

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by marvin906(m): 9:29am On Feb 07
I thought I was gonna miss
Friday of a thousand laugh..
buh I need a good laugh..

my popcorn and hollandia is ready so my brothers let the flood Gates of bullsh.it and utter Garbage be open

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Yakade(m): 9:30am On Feb 07
See them

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by bns4eva: 9:32am On Feb 07
marvin906:
I thought I was gonna miss
Friday of a thousand laugh..
buh I need a good laugh..

my popcorn and hollandia is ready so my brothers let the flood Gates of bullsh.it and utter Garbage be open

Lazy youth.
Too bad for you

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Mccullum: 9:33am On Feb 07
may Allah help and guide us by strengthening our faith in I slam

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by rhymesnoni(m): 9:33am On Feb 07
May Allah bless us with Halal Job, At times u jst dnt blame the Muslim brothers nd sisters who take up Bank Job, the frustration of Employment no funny at all.
May w be guided!!!!

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Mikecold: 9:34am On Feb 07
Lol but same allah accept muslims to be depositing their monies in the same haram banks or perphas you lots are disobdient slaves

Even the most ignorant aboki would gather 10naira to go pay in before and after slamming his head

If our muslim northern brothers who destroyed this corn tree obeyed this rule i dont think we would be having abacha loot that are stacked up in the biggest banks and never ending



Hypocrisy as usual

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Slickest(m): 9:35am On Feb 07
This is very interesting, may ALLAH grand us wisdom.
Few questions, how many non interest banks do you know in Nigeria?
There is an opening for a driving job at a bank and a father of 3 has to cater for his family?
We live in a country where most of the policy makers are Muslims but this seems directed to that citizen who is only striving to pay his bills

We live in a country where you try to live right but the Society won't let you.
Please when you talk about a topic you should be more in-depth about it not just stroll through the surface, there are always exceptions

May Allah make it easy for us and forgive our sins

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by fatymore(f): 9:36am On Feb 07
NuissancePolice:
Two loads of bullsh*t in one day. What the fvck is wrong with these moslem zombies? Please guys, just visit this link to check out this other bullsh*t by these guys

https://www.nairaland.com/5673552/dog-house-reduces-good-deeds


You are bereft of common sense.

You people are just too annoying

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Slickest(m): 9:37am On Feb 07
marvin906:
I thought I was gonna miss
Friday of a thousand laugh..
buh I need a good laugh..

my popcorn and hollandia is ready so my brothers let the flood Gates of bullsh.it and utter Garbage be open
People like you make me lose hope in the youth of this country.
Everything is a joke to you

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by kolakolex: 9:38am On Feb 07
[quote author=rhymesnoni post=86447780]May Allah bless us with Halal Job, At times u jst dnt blame the Muslim brothers nd sisters who take up Bank Job, the frustration of Employment no funny at all.
May w be guided!!!![/quote

May Almighty Allah continue to guide and assist us.its not easy at all most people have limited options

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Kakamorufu(m): 9:39am On Feb 07
We got no choice than to do the work.. even if its a dirty work.

Work scarce in the country ooo. we gon manage the one we see naani.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Slickest(m): 9:39am On Feb 07
fatymore:



You are bereft of common sense.

You people are just too annoying
Do you blame them, westernization has gotten a whole of them, they are young, dumb and naive. What ever is imbedded in their tiny brains makes them foolish for the rest of their lives

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by sanallide: 9:45am On Feb 07
There are halal substitutes in some of the courses you mentioned. There is Takaful in Insurance, Marketing is not haram except for the methods employed that determines its acceptability, etc. You can not cure a disease when you do not know how it spreads. Peace unto you!!!


Rashduct4luv:
We ask Allah to grant us halal job and earnings!

Let's advice our wards and kin on their choice of course. All those problematic courses that are irrelevant "deenically" should be jettisoned.

E.g. Insurance, Marketing (especially for a Muslimah), Philosophy, among others.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by fatymore(f): 9:48am On Feb 07
Slickest:

Do you blame them, westernization has gotten a whole of them, they are young, dumb and naive. What ever is imbedded in their tiny brains makes them foolish for the rest of their lives


Sincerely I don't understand and is getting soil annoying...

The rulings are for Muslims to learn and debate on...

If you ain't a Muslim, you don't need to shook my mouth put.

We Muslims hardly do stuff like this on their thread, yet they call us intolerant people.

Koyemi
N.B: I won't attack your religion or your place of worship but it is your stupid personality that doesn't have a bit of decorum to know when and how to talk to people beliefs on Social Media that I would attack.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by RisenPhoenix(m): 9:49am On Feb 07
Lukgaf:
Alhamdulillaah wasalaatu wasalaam ‘ala rasuulillaah

It is not allowed because it helping one another in sin and transgression. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not permissible to work in a riba-based institution even if a person is working as a driver or guard, because that means that he is working for the riba-based institution, which implies that he approves of it. For whoever disapproves of a thing would not work to support it, so if he is working for it that implies that he approves of it, and the one who approves of something that is haraam is also guilty of sin. But if he is directly involved in recording transactions, writing, sending and depositing etc, then he is undoubtedly dealing directly with something haraam. It was proven in the hadeeth of Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the one who consumes riba, the one who pays it, the two who witness it and the one who writes it down. He said: “They are all the same.” Fataawa Islamiyyah. 2/401

The Standing Committee was asked about a man who worked as a night guard for one of the banks, and he had nothing to do with the bank’s transactions – should he continue with this job or leave?

They replied: It is not permissible for a Muslim to work as a guard for banks that deal with riba, because this is a kind of cooperating in sin and transgression, and Allaah has forbidden that as He says (interpretation of the meaning): “but do not help one another in sin and transgression” [al-Maa'idah 5:2] Most of the banks deal with riba, so you have to look for a halaal means of earning a living, not this way. And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions. Fataawa Islamiyyah, 2/401, 402

May Allah grant us understanding of His religion

Source: Fish class foundations

I am not a muslim, but I find some financial aspects of Islam interesting (and incidentally, logical). I am in the field of finance. Is it ok to ask questions on the Islamic viewpoint on interest based institutions (I assume riba is interest?)?

Sorry, I had to accept the required condition on my profile. No other way to put my questions.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Rashduct4luv(m): 9:51am On Feb 07
sanallide:
There are halal substitutes in some of the courses you mentioned. There is Takaful in Insurance, Marketing is not haram except for the methods employed that determines its acceptability, etc. You can not cure a disease when you do not know how it spreads. Peace unto you!!!

I wrote marketing especially for female. And if there is Takaful in Insurance will you study only Takaful in your School without studying the other parts of insurance. Please may Allah guide you and me, think well before typing. And don't be among the Muslims who are the problem to the Ummah of Muhammad.

Assalamun 'Alaikum

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by marvin906(m): 9:51am On Feb 07
Slickest:

People like you make me lose hope in the youth of this country.
Everything is a joke to you



ok

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Slickest(m): 9:53am On Feb 07
NuissancePolice:
Two loads of bullsh*t in one day. What the fvck is wrong with these moslem zombies? Please guys, just visit this link to check out this other bullsh*t by these guys

https://www.nairaland.com/5673552/dog-house-reduces-good-deeds

Modified:
For crying out loud, someone is saying I lack common sense be cause I call this bull crap. See image attached
So u sitting down and pensively giving urslf a name such as nuisance police is not bullsh*t, u can't even spell nuisance right. It shows the level of ur brain activity, u are dumb and it should be a cause for concern for you. I attend church services and I notice that stup*d people like you don't even listen to sermons, in a nutshell your stupidity is your own making, you come online and exhibit your foolishness on people's faith. Be guided please, people like you know nothing about anything.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by papiforreal(m): 9:55am On Feb 07
RisenPhoenix:


I am not a muslim, but I find some financial aspects of Islam interesting (and incidentally, logical). I am in the field of finance. Is it ok to ask questions on the Islamic viewpoint on interest based institutions (I assume riba is interest?)?

Sorry, I had to accept the required condition on my profile. No other way to put my questions.


Yes riba is the same thing as interest

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by NuissancePolice(m): 9:57am On Feb 07
Slickest:

So u sitting down and pensively giving urslf a name such as nuisance police is not bullsh*t, u can't even spell nuisance right. It shows the level of ur brain activity, u are dumb and it should be a cause for concern for you. I attend church services and I notice that stup*d people like you don't even listen to sermons, in a nutshell your stupidity is your own making, you come online and exhibit your foolishness on people's faith. Be guided please, people like you know nothing about anything.

Fvcken slowpoke. Who told you I am a christian?

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by TheOutlaw: 9:58am On Feb 07
Then all muslims should resign en masse from UBA, GTB, Zenith, First Bank, Union Bank etc.

They should start handing in their letters of resignation now.

Rashduct4luv:
We ask Allah to grant us halal job and earnings!

Let's advice our wards and kin on their choice of course. All those problematic courses that are irrelevant "deenically" should be jettisoned.

E.g. Insurance, Marketing (especially for a Muslimah), Philosophy, among others.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Kokaine(m): 9:58am On Feb 07
Rashduct4luv:
We ask Allah to grant us halal job and earnings!

Let's advice our wards and kin on their choice of course. All those problematic courses that are irrelevant "deenically" should be jettisoned.

E.g. Insurance, Marketing (especially for a Muslimah), Philosophy, among others.
Amin.

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Kekereekun123: 10:00am On Feb 07
So all muslims in banks are hell bound lol

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by Slickest(m): 10:00am On Feb 07
RisenPhoenix:


I am not a muslim, but I find some financial aspects of Islam interesting (and incidentally, logical). I am in the field of finance. Is it ok to ask questions on the Islamic viewpoint on interest based institutions (I assume riba is interest?)?

Sorry, I had to accept the required condition on my profile. No other way to put my questions.
Of course, you are mostly welcome
Ask your questions
And yes riba means interest

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by RisenPhoenix(m): 10:09am On Feb 07
papiforreal:



Yes riba is the same thing as interest

How far down the line do muslim jurists go when forbidding interest? For example, I guess that other direct interest based institutions like discount houses, mutual fund managers, , cooperative societies etc are all forbidden to muslims as well, since they all involve interest based transactions; but we can still go on further to institutions that not directly involved with interest, but deal with them; eg external auditors of banks, stockbrokers who buy and sell bank shares, insurance companies, pension fund administrators, investment banks. Is it forbidden for muslims to work there as well?

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Re: Ruling On Muslim Working In An Interest-based Bank by RisenPhoenix(m): 10:10am On Feb 07
Slickest:

Of course, you are mostly welcome
Ask your questions
And yes riba means interest

Can you please answer the question in the preceding comment?

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