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|What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 1:04am On Feb 25|
What is rewarded at death?
To rephrase the question what really goes to Heaven or Hell, is it the body,Soul, Spirit or all of the above mentioned?
Only few Christains know and understand the answer to this very delicate and puzzling question. The true answer to this question can be found only in the Bible.
Most of the confusion over this issue is as a result of people not understanding what a Bible refers to as a Soul or Spirit.
In the Bible a spirit can refer or mean 3 different things.
*A living being:God is a spirit, Angels,Demons & Satan are
spirits Heb12:9,Heb 1:7, Leviticus 20:27
*It can also be used to refer to the breath of life in Man or
animals. James 2:26,Job 33:4,Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto
God who gave it.
*It can also be used to refer to a persons will, capacity,
countenance,reasoning, mind,intellect,zeal,thoughts,visions or dreams.Gen6:3,Genesis 41:8, Exdous 31:3,Exdous 35:31.
Isaiah 40:13 ...'Who has directed the Spirit of the LORD, or
being his counsellor has taught him?'
Romans 11:34 ...'For who has known the mind of the Lord? Or
who has been his counsellor?'
Also the Soul in the Bible refers to 3 different things.
* A living person or animal.genesis12:15,genesis 46:18
* Life force or life of a person
* Faculty or reasoning or intellect of a person,mind,thoughts.
songs of Solomon 1:7,3:1, Isaiah 26:8&9.
At death the spirit goes back to God who gave it while the body turns back to dust.
All through the Bible no where is the Soul or Spirit described as an independent element that can exist on it's own without the body and neither does the Soul or Spirit has Immortality.
Man is nothing more but clay or dust powered by the spirit of God. Life is what makes us a Soul.
Now we have understood what a spirit or soul is we will now look at what the Bible says is rewarded at death.
Evidence of what goes to Heaven or Hell.
*Ressurection:Paul taught the early Christains that the only hope of reward for those who died in Christ is the ressurection.
This raises a valid argument if the just can only rewarded by their ressurection from the Dead which means neither their spirit or soul is rewarded at death as wrongly taught.Paul also gave more insight on this issue by explaining that when Christ will come the Dead in Christ will be raised with their corruptible mortal bodies transformed to immortal bodies and then they will be taken to Heaven. Job 14:12-15
2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
The unjust will also be ressurected but will not experience any changes in their body or nature they will still be raised with the corruptible body which they had before they died they will be judged and cast into the lake of fire which the Bible calls the second death.
Revelation 2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
*Lazarus and his ressurection: when Jesus arrived at the house of his dead friend Lazarus we are told that a conversation ensued between Jesus and Mary who acknowledged that her brother was going to be ressurected on the last day. this implies that Mary understood that it was her brother's ressurected body that will be rewarded by God and not his soul or spirit.
John 11:23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day. 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
* Torment in Hell: Jesus taught the people that in Hell their will be great torment pain and gnashing of teeth this implies that the unjust body is what goes to Hell as Jesus also informed us that spirits don't have flesh and bones or teeth. Matthew 25:30, Luke 24:39.
*Death and ressurection of Jesus:
It was Jesus's transformed body that ascended to Heaven and not his spirit or soul. Acts 1:9-11.
Note also that Jesus told Mary not to touch him for he had not ascended to Heaven. (he did not go to Heaven until 40days after his ressurection)this implies that Jesus soul or spirit did not go to Heaven or Hell as wrongly taught in Churches but he was at rest in the grave as all the Dead are till the end of the 3 days. John20:17,Luke 19:9.
*Body(Eyes and hands)in Hell:
Jesus taught the people that it was better for one to go to Heaven without hands or eyes than to be cast to Hell with both hands or eyes, this gives evidence to the fact that the body is what is punished in Hell and not the Spirit or soul, Matthew 18:19
*Transfiguration:The transfiguration of Jesus on Mount Olives is given to us as an example of how the mortal bodies of those who are in Christ will be transformed before they are taken to Heaven.
Matthew 17:2, Mark 16:9
* Soul and body in Hell.
Jesus taught his disciples and the people that God will punish/destory the body and soul (life/breathe) of the wicked in Hell.
Matthew 17:2, Mark9.
*The words of David, Isaiah, Daniel and Job:
There is no doubt that this great men where inspired by God to write that the body of the just and unjust is what is rewarded after judgement. Job14:14,Daniel 12:12, Isaiah 26:19,John 11:11,Plasms 17:15 and plasms112:10
Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth(from the grave)to the day of wrath.
*Parables of tares and Wheat:
The parable of tares and Wheat teaches us that the body of the unjust(tares) would be cast into fire.
Matthew 13:40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
*Body of Moses.
When Moses died the Bible tells us that Satan came to claim the body of Moses but he was resisted by an Angel of God.
Secondly it was not the Spirit of Moses and Elijah that appeared before Jesus, but it was the ressurected body of Moses, and Elijah who did not experience death that appeared to Jesus. Luke 20:37,Matthew 17:2.
*Paul's words and teachings.
1 Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1 Corinthians 15:42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
The word of God is clear on this subject, it is the physical body of people, changed for the just and unchanged for the unjust that is rewarded after judgement and not some imaginery spirit or soul.
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|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Blakewilli(m): 1:18am On Feb 25|
So then, what does 'dry bones shall rise again' mean?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by PlayerMeji: 1:24am On Feb 25|
If you check the first and last pages of the holy Bible, one word appears familiar in the two pages and that's the SPIRIT OF GOD!
That means God is a spirit and only the spirit would be important to God.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 2:32am On Feb 25|
blueAgent:so u mean the same body that was buried and decayed will rise again abi... SmH.. Pray for better understanding of the Word of God...
Theres no male or female on that day.... All spirits are spirit.. No male or female spirit.. Uts only the flesh that differentiate man.. God sees us as spirit and conmunicate with our spirit
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:42am On Feb 25|
Express your thoughts with facts and evidence.
1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 New King James
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that
we who are alive and remain until the coming of the
Lord will by no means precede those who are
asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from
heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel,
and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ
will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain
shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to
meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be
with the Lord.
1 Corinthians 15:52
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last
trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead
shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:43am On Feb 25|
So what will happen to the Spirit?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 6:43am On Feb 25|
I don't understand your point.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Goshen360(m): 6:57am On Feb 25|
It is the SPIRIT brother!
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by PlayerMeji: 7:54am On Feb 25|
That's the ANSWER to your question, bro.
The SPIRIT goes to Heaven
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 8:00am On Feb 25|
Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 KJV
I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.  For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.  All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.  Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Matthew 10:28 KJV
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
The body journeys end on earth and return to the dust it came from....
The main function of the body is to house the spirit... The body doesnt transit with the spirit to the heavenly realm
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 8:45am On Feb 25|
Why is there a resurrection?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 8:46am On Feb 25|
Please show were it is written that the spirit goes to Heaven?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 8:47am On Feb 25|
Goshen360:No. Where Adam and Eve Spirits?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by PlayerMeji: 8:56am On Feb 25|
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Blakewilli(m): 9:06am On Feb 25|
blueAgent:Its the body that will ascend on the last day. anyone who dies before that day shall go into a deep sleep till that day. Thats what that bible passage ;'dry bones shall rise again' means.
Didn't you notice that God sent angel Micheal to protect and retrieve moses' body after death?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Horlufemi(m): 9:35am On Feb 25|
You're looking for their trouble.
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|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 9:52am On Feb 25|
My brother, I wonder how people will see clear bible verses and still deny the truth.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 9:53am On Feb 25|
I never said otherwise.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 9:55am On Feb 25|
The word spirit here you quoted means breathe or life force.
If the spirit is what goes to Heaven or Hell why do we have a resurrection?
Jesus was bodily resurrected before taken to Heaven, why?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by BlueAngel444: 12:27pm On Feb 25|
When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. Revelation 6:9
In the gospels Jesus says what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and his soul
Man is flesh, he has a soul that's accountable to God
Then the children of God receive a spirit, the Spirit of God and are Body, Soul and God's Spirit
Our souls return back to God, the ones redeemed are kept the rest like you said will return into their dead bodies and end up in the lake of fire but those evil souls won't be in heaven, or in peace they will be in hell.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Horlufemi(m): 12:27pm On Feb 25|
Most times ego is at play. It's hard to not look stupid when they say one thing then change it because they found out it was wrong. They'll rather die
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|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 1:00pm On Feb 25|
Horlufemi:True, Ego plays a lot of role.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 2:23pm On Feb 25|
This is why they say bible study is important in every Church
Firstly... There are 3 aspect to every Man.. The Body(Flesh), Soul and Spirit.... Firstly you need to understand that when God breathe into man he deposited his spirit into man...Gen 2:7
The body houses the Soul and the Spirit... The difference between your soul and spirit is that the soul is where everything is deposited and keep your thought,Ability to decide both wrong and right, but the Soul also contains Mans Spirit...
Your spirit is what you use to communicate with God and connects with Him... That is why the bible said God is spirit and He who worships must also do it in spirit.. God has no interest in Mans Flesh
Now the tricky part is the soul of man can be influenced by Both the Body and the spirit.. Because A mans Soul can only understand the captain which directs it...
The Body(flesh) is a sinful existence of man because its has been cursed since lucifer was cast down..
If a man is not well grounded in the Holy spirit of God the flesh which is influenced by the Evil spirit on earth can easily corrupt ones soul...
The Soul itself can not sustain and survive on its own.. Its either its influenced by the corruptible Flesh or its Influenced by the Incorruptible Spirit of God... But the Soul can never ever be empty or alone... It must have a master... That is why theres always a constant battle of our conscience in making both right and wrong decisions
Genesis 6:12 KJV
And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
Now understand this... Due to the Sinful Nature of the Flesh it cannot transit into heaven because Habakkuk 1:13 said
Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and canst not look on iniquity
That eyes of the lord is so pure that it cannot behold any form of iniquity... The Flesh being Sinful cannot enter heaven or stand before the throne of judgement
Kindly read about Enoch the Prophet and about his transition into Heaven..
Once a Man die the Soul exit mans Body and prepare for judgement while the Body returns to the dust, the Soul goes to a place reserved for them while some roam around the earth till judgement day
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 2:29pm On Feb 25|
Matthew 22:30 KJV
For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Are angels in bodily forms?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:08pm On Feb 25|
Stop deceiving yourself,
was it not Angels that lusted and married daughters of men that made God to destroy the old World?
Genesis 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:10pm On Feb 25|
This is unbibilcal, pure human reasoning.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 10:13pm On Feb 25|
This is not Bible, it is Philosophy.
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by sonmvayina(m): 11:32pm On Feb 25|
It will become one with God... Read psalm 104 :29-31 and Ecclessiatics 12 :7,the spirit returns to God who gave it...
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 12:25am On Feb 26|
blueAgent:sorry sir you have no knowledge of the Bible if you truly don't understand this
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Kallmerb: 12:27am On Feb 26|
blueAgent:that is inspired by the Holy spirit.... Seems you really dont want to learn but argue on facts you dont know...
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Image123(m): 4:09am On Feb 26|
Who cares what? The important questions like David asked should be "Who"?, "How?" What is the gain of knowing what if you don't know how?
|Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by jyz200(m): 5:33am On Feb 26|
Once you die thats all
Nothing like ascension, ressurection
Judgement and punishment
It's all bull crap
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