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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 9:55pm On Feb 26
MetaPhysical:


Fodio is in same class as Shekau.

Fodio had a jihad flag
Shekau has a jihad flag

Fodio said he had the true islam
Shekau said he has the true islam

Fodio wanted to create a caliphate
Shekau wants a caliphate

Fodio toppled Hausa State rulers
Shekau has promised to sack rulers

Fodio raided towns & kidnapped
Shekau has raided & kidnapped

Fodio turned kidnapping to enterprise
Shakau collects ransom on victims

....there is too much parallel between the two terrorists. grin

Shekau is a reincarnate of fodio

Excellent observation captain obvious. Feel free to share more of your profound insights.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 10:06pm On Feb 26
StaffofOrayan:
Oh I see, where is the prosperity and fairness dan fodio promised the dummies he conquered? I have tried finding it but all I see is poverty, disease and perpetual slavery,
Yes he really beat the Hausa's bad, infact so bad their children are shoemakers, mei suya, mei shayi, they have killed their way into being the spiritual head of muslims, another set of dummies who don't research.

Dan fodio is a typical fulani man, like Buhari, they would kill and maim to get to power, (using useful dummies like yourself) once they get power all they do is install themselves like a virus on a computer and destroy what they met,

Nothing to celebrate, but of course Hitler is a bigass hero to some skinheads

The were the most prosperous empire in the region for a short time. The empire eventually went into decline like the normally do. Lol it's hilarious how a man that's been dead for centuries can cause this mich emotional distress. He just a typical warlord you read about in the history books. Fact is he conviced the people following him to rebel against the stste because the kingdom weren't saints themselves.

Dan Fodio himself is alright in terms of kings. He's wasnt even especially brutal compared to his counter parts in history or region. Its funny you want to paint him as the devil for beating expandion hausa empires. Those war mongers were just too weak to stand against him.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by MetaPhysical: 10:12pm On Feb 26
eagleu:
OP, you forgot to tell us that Mohammed Rumfa, the zakin Gobir welcomed Fodio to his court and kept him as adviser for so many years, until Fodio himself wanted to succeed the king, and then fell out with his son. His reason for attacking the Hausa palace was because the people practiced "impure" islam, much like the ISWAP and BK today.
Nigeria will never advance until the real history of the atrocities of Fodio is appreciated, and corrected.

Fulani are backbiters. You keep them as guests and they plot your death and how to own your land.

Never again! Fodio, their ancestor was a terrorist. They learnt from him.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:19pm On Feb 26
It is naive to say they were weak, the Fulanis are masters at attaching themselves to their host and then deposing of them in the classic parasite style, if those kings were brutal, every fulani would be killed on arrival. But they are useful fools, who are easily charmed by words like Buharideens.
The advantage dan fodio had and all fulanis have is that their barbarity is often underestimated, it's hard for people to understand what they are capable of, especially since they are always champions of sharia and wahhabi islam.
People assume they are human until the killings starts.

The only time Sokoto was a prosperous city was during the slave trading era, and you can guess the reason. Like I said do some damn research


Blue3k2:


The were the most prosperous empire in the region for a short time. The empire eventually went into decline like the normally do. Lol it's hilarious how a man that's been dead for centuries can cause this mich emotional distress. He just a typical warlord you read about in the history books. Fact is he conviced the people following him to rebel against the stste because the kingdom weren't saints themselves.

Dan Fodio himself is alright in terms of kings. He's wasnt even especially brutal compared to his counter parts in history or region. Its funny you want to paint him as the devil for beating expandion hausa empires. Those war mongers were just too weak to stand against him.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by eagleu: 10:21pm On Feb 26
Blue3k2:


Dan Fodio want to succeed the king? I read the king of Gobir was behaving like tyrant attacking his followers. They eventually took up arms against the state after he declared war first. Th ef Hausa kingdoms just lost to the better military. I dont think people think he's perfect but you're free to shine light on his short comings. Every historical figure has them.


First they used to teach Nigerian history to kids, then they abolished it so that children would not ask why Fodio turned on a God fearing and accommodating sarkin Mohammed Rumfa of Gobir who harbored him for years.

No question Fadion was an illegal alien when he came to Hausa land, but he was more tricky and smarter after his education in Agadev, but he lacked morals just our current president, justifying every criminal action with some flimsy religious bias.

If you want to know Nigerian history go study it outside the Nigerian educational system in unbiased way

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by eagleu: 10:47pm On Feb 26
Blue3k2:


The were the most prosperous empire in the region for a short time. The empire eventually went into decline like the normally do. Lol it's hilarious how a man that's been dead for centuries can cause this mich emotional distress. He just a typical warlord you read about in the history books. Fact is he conviced the people following him to rebel against the stste because the kingdom weren't saints themselves.

Dan Fodio himself is alright in terms of kings. He's wasnt even especially brutal compared to his counter parts in history or region. Its funny you want to paint him as the devil for beating expandion hausa empires. Those war mongers were just too weak to stand against him.


Your conclusion about Fodio leading citizens of Gobir to riot against their own king beats all reason and imagination.

Imagine an alien coming into sokoto today, and somehow convincing present day citizens to riot against the sultan.

First, you can see all sorts of logistical problems with that, and finally you should ask where was the king when all these were happening.

The truth was he killed the king, and somehow convinced some citizens that he was fighting for a purer form of islam, same way Buhari is locking up his opponent, because he is fighting corruption. Yet some citizens didn't accept Fodio for a long time, and those he simply murdered in the name of islam. Yumfa, the son of the sarkin Gobir was on of his victims.

Having accumulated power and resources, Fodio sent his cousin to Kano to replicate the same technique, and it worked, because he was a well educated strategist who understood how to confuse the masses with religious.

BTW, Alimi used the same technique in Illorin to subdue the greedy general working the northern borders of Oyo empire called Afonja. That's why Illorin has a Fulani emir today instead of an Oba.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 10:49pm On Feb 26
eagleu:


First they used to teach Nigerian history to kids, then they abolished it so that children would not ask why Fodio turned on a God fearing and accommodating sarkin Mohammed Rumfa of Gobir who harbored him for years.

No question Fadion was an illegal alien when he came to Hausa land, but he was more tricky and smarter after his education in Agadev, but he lacked morals just our current president, justifying every criminal action with some flimsy religious bias.

If you want to know Nigerian history fo study it outside the Nigerian educational system in unbiased way

The king made an illegal allien an advisor. Yunfa got lectures from illegal instead of expelling him? Did you logically think about this arguement.

Oh well the better military won and the rest is history. Btw I never schooled in nigeria. I've never seen the law stopping any tier of government from teaching it currently. The states stopped simply because they didnt care to fund it themselves.


StaffofOrayan:
It is naive to say they were weak, the Fulanis are masters at attaching themselves to their host and then deposing of them in the classic parasite style, if those kings were brutal, every fulani would be killed on arrival. But they are useful fools, who are easily charmed by words like Buharideens.
The advantage dan fodio had and all fulanis have is that their barbarity is often underestimated, it's hard for people to understand what they are capable of, especially since they are always champions of sharia and wahhabi islam.
People assume they are human until the killings starts.

The only time Sokoto was a prosperous city was during the slave trading era, and you can guess the reason. Like I said do some damn research


Oh well you can make all the excuses in the book dan fodia simply lead better militarily. If he was able to conqure all the near by kingdoms in such a short time he was simply better. They were dumb and full of hubris even after their neighbors were conquered?

Lol so sokoto was wealthy during danfodio era. He was ruling during slave trade. You contradicted your own point.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 10:59pm On Feb 26
The sultan lives in a gold house but Sokoto is one of the poorest places on the planet
That is not wealth, that is just a man that understands the psychology of poverty.

I can already guess you are fulani and you grew up in the south because dan fodios region is too hot for you,


Blue3k2:


The king made an illegal allien an advisor. Yunfa got lectures from illegal instead of expelling him? Did you logically think about this arguement.

Oh well the better military won and the rest is history. Btw I never schooled in nigeria. I've never seen the law stopping any tier of government from teaching it currently. The states stopped simply because they didnt care to fund it themselves.





Oh well you can make all the excuses in the book dan fodia simply lead better militarily. If he was able to conqure all the near by kingdoms in such a short time he was simply better. They were dumb and full of hubris even after their neighbors were conquered?

Lol so sokoto was wealthy during danfodio era. He was ruling during slave trade. You contradicted your own point.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 11:06pm On Feb 26
StaffofOrayan:
The sultan lives in a gold house but Sokoto is one of the poorest places on the planet
That is not wealth, that is just a man that understands the psychology of poverty.

I can already guess you are fulani and you grew up in the south because dan fodios region is too hot for you,

Lol you clowns shift the goal post anytime you start arguing foolishly. The Dan Fodio going have you children born with PTSD becsuse the exploits centuries prior. Lol your blaming dan fodio for the current year problems. Lol you're likely blaming luggard for you're country being third world 60 years after independence as well. You're at least a funny clown.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 11:21pm On Feb 26
There is nothing funny about the state of the North being headed by Fulanis
It's actually sad that barbarians can be allowed to rule a peaceful people like Hausas that's the tragedy of it all.
I have seen threads where u support Ruga and write long incoherent epistles on why Amotekun must not stand. Who can blame you? You are just standing up for your brothers.

History Nuggets:
Did you know the British war against the barbaric fulani was to put an end to the slave trade?
Guess they told you it was to stop the spread of Islam?
Don't worry you would keep learning from me and what's more, it is totally free!


Blue3k2:


Lol you clowns shift the goal post anytime you start arguing foolishly. The Dan Fodio going have you children born with PTSD becsuse the exploits centuries prior. Lol your blaming dan fodio for the current year problems. Lol you're likely blaming luggard for you're country being third world 60 years after independence as well. You're at least a funny clown.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 11:38pm On Feb 26
StaffofOrayan:
There is nothing funny about the state of the North being headed by Fulanis
It's actually sad that barbarians can be allowed to rule a peaceful people like Hausas that's the tragedy of it all.
I have seen threads where u support Ruga and write long incoherent epistles on why Amotekun must not stand. Who can blame you? You are just standing up for your brothers.

History Nuggets:
Did you know the British war against the barbaric fulani was to put an end to the slave trade?
Guess they told you it was to stop the spread of Islam?
Don't worry you would keep learning from me and what's more, it is totally free!




Yawn the peaceful hausa living in the weak warring empires. They lost stop crying. If the want change today is new day. Go up north drown those devils in your tears pussy.

Lol you're also adapt at strawmen since you cant argue facts well. Btw not against Amotekun. I've wrote msny times constitution should be amended for police decentralization along with prisons. I wasnt for ruga for economic reasons. The states thst want to do it are free to as I said. Dimwits can't understand nuance points because slongeering is what they're used to.

Lol everyone knows the britsh fought to end slavery in general. Good job captain obvious.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 11:57pm On Feb 26
I think the weak people are the barbarians that always wage war of terror on people who don't even realize their 2 faced strangers are planning to overthrow them, like modern day Fulanis. Weak people can't evolve, they are base animals.

Ruga is dead fortunately, people are waking up to the foolishness that is fulani and realizing they are a curse to west africa and the civilized world

Amotekun on the other hand stand gidigba, ready for the beast of no nation! grin


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GHANA : Clashes Continue Between Local Farmers and Fulani Pastoralists ...
Following clashes in the Kwahu South District of Ghana's eastern region between rural farmers and indigenous Fulani, a local

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The Fulani are primarily cattle breeders and traders, while the Bambara and Dogon are traditionally sedentary farmers. Mali's population

I can go on and on, these people are animals and you can't paint them as sane people, they would always disappoint you with their barbarity

Blue3k2:



Yawn the peace hausa living in the weak warring empires.The lost stop crying. If the want change today is new day. Lol you're also adapt at strawmen since you cant argue facts well. Btw not against Amotekun. I've wrote msny times constitution should be amended for police decentralization along with prisons. I wasnt for ruga for economic reasons. The states thst want to do it are free to as I said. Dimwits can't understand nuance points because slongeering is what they're used to.

Lol everyone knows the britsh fought to end slavery in general. Good job captain obvious.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 12:10am On Feb 27
StaffofOrayan:
I think the weak people are the barbarians that always wage war of terror on people who don't even realize their 2 faced strangers are planning to overthrow them, like modern day Fulanis. Weak people can't evolve, they are base animals.

Ruga is dead fortunately, people are waking up to the foolishness that is fulani and realizing they are a curse to west africa and the civilized world

Amotekun on the other hand stand gidigba, ready for the beast of no nation! grin


https://www.culturalsurvival.org › g...
GHANA : Clashes Continue Between Local Farmers and Fulani Pastoralists ...
Following clashes in the Kwahu South District of Ghana's eastern region between rural farmers and indigenous Fulani, a local


Lol so the warring hausa rulets are were dumb and weak. Oh well it sucks that's how history played out. Lol you're crying more than the bereaved. They very intermarried and cool with eachother. The got over their beating but you're still hurt centuries after the fact.

NLTP replaced ruga clown. Plateau and other northern states signed on. The southern ones simply said no like last time. You'll see updates in the news soon enough.

These states should also have prisons for their inmates. Hopefully that's addressed for practical purposes.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:20am On Feb 27
Cool with each other, now that's a good joke, I guess all that killer herdsmen and 'bandits' are family tussle? Hehehe

But you get the drift, whenever a people are at war, the Fulanis move in, that's why amotekun scared miyetti allah and co, such unity shook the herders,
There won't be Ruga in the North, You can take that to the Islamic Bank, Fulanis never look to better anybodys lot, remember they are parasites!


Blue3k2:


Lol so the warring hausa rulets are were dumb and weak. Oh well it sucks that's how history played out. Lol you're crying more than the bereaved. They very intermarried and cool with eachother. The got over their beating but you're still hurt centuries after the fact.

NLTP replaced ruga clown. Plateau and other northern states signed on. The southern ones simply said no like last time. You'll see updates in the news soon enough.

These states should also have prisons for their inmates. Hopefully that's addressed for practical purposes.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 12:27am On Feb 27
StaffofOrayan:
Cool with each other, now that's a good joke, I guess all that killer herdsmen and 'bandits' are family tussle? Hehehe

But you get the drift, whenever a people are at war, the Fulanis move in, that's why amotekun scared miyetti allah and co, such unity shook the herders,
There won't be Ruga in the North, You can take that to the Islamic Bank, Fulanis never look to better anybodys lot, remember they are parasites!



You're a clown did the hausas stop marrying fulani? Have they expelled them out of the country. Did the not vote in mass for a fulani president twice. The still have fulani traditional leaders. Yes they're cool with them dont act dense.

Lol NLTP already replaced ruga. The difference is pretty minor. Niger state already earmed 45,000 hectares for ruga. Zamfara already earmed land. I guess you're taken by surprise when it kicks off. Bury your head in the sand.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:42am On Feb 27
That is the tragedy of the Hausa's
Isn't it sad that in their beggarlike state, they still dig their own graves? Despite this, the fulani still massacre them because they can't live in a civilized society.
Those states you mentioned are partly controlled by bandits, governors pay billions of naira to keep a fragile peace, villages are still being sacked, I wonder how 45,000 hectares filled with cattle in a very hungry and destabilized region is supposed to work, but hey people believe in santa clause



Blue3k2:


You're a clown did the hausas stop marrying fulani? Have they expelled them out of the country. Did the not vote in mass for a fulani president twice. The still have fulani traditional leaders. Yes they're cool with them dont act dense.

Lol NLTP already replaced ruga. The difference is pretty minor. Niger state already earmed 45,000 hectares for ruga. Zamfara already earmed land. I guess you're taken by surprise when it kicks off. Bury your head in the sand.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 1:29am On Feb 27
StaffofOrayan:
That is the tragedy of the Hausa's
Isn't it sad that in their beggarlike state, they still dig their own graves? Despite this, the fulani still massacre them because they can't live in a civilized society.
Those states you mentioned are partly controlled by bandits, governors pay billions of naira to keep a fragile peace, villages are still being sacked, I wonder how 45,000 hectares filled with cattle in a very hungry and destabilized region is supposed to work, but hey people believe in santa clause




There's no reason pity them or cry more than the bereaved like your doing. If they want to make changes do so. Lol you have a million excuses for the region Its pathetic. It's either they tackle their issues or live with it. Keep pretending the fulani are their issue instead of their own actions. You sympathize with weaknesses afterall.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by StaffofOrayan(m): 6:04am On Feb 27
Your claim was dan fodio saved Hausa's from their wicked kings,
And I'm telling you he was just another barbaric fulani man, like buhari


Blue3k2:


There's no reason pity them or cry more than the bereaved like your doing. If they want to make changes do so. Lol you have a million excuses for the region Its pathetic. It's either they tackle their issues or live with it. Keep pretending the fulani are their issue instead of their own actions. You sympathize with weaknesses afterall.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 4:00pm On Feb 27
StaffofOrayan:
Your claim was dan fodio saved Hausa's from their wicked kings,
And I'm telling you he was just another barbaric fulani man, like buhari

Wow you have really hard time with nuance points. I said people joined his cause because the government was also oppressive. Saying Dan Fodio was wicked doesn't make the other kings saints. You're trying make out victims when they're not.

I compared dan Fodio to Mohammed and Genghis Khan. Saying he's barbaric is trite since every conqueror is. You dont overthrow people without force. How do think empires expand.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 4:30pm On Feb 27
Blue3k2:


Wow you have really hard time with nuance points. I said people joined his cause because the government was also oppressive. Saying Dan Fodio was wicked doesn't make the other kings saints. You're trying make out victims when they're not.

I compared dan Fodio to Mohammed and Genghis Khan. Saying he's barbaric is trite since every conqueror is. You dont overthrow people without force. How do t hink empires expand.

It was a case of a palace coup since most of Hausa city state are volatile to begin with. All that is history now since the Hausa and Fulani are brother that loves to live together in peace.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by myobjective: 4:35pm On Feb 27
Blue3k2:


There's no reason pity them or cry more than the bereaved like your doing. If they want to make changes do so. Lol you have a million excuses for the region Its pathetic. It's either they tackle their issues or live with it. Keep pretending the fulani are their issue instead of their own actions. You sympathize with weaknesses afterall.

I don't know why southerners with close to zero knowledge about core north demography always like to romanticize the Hausa and dehumanised the Fulani when both group are one and the same. An average Hausa from the north west will die protecting the interest of the Fulani. I'm not saying that is a good or bad thing but that is how they want to live.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by six6prax: 4:46pm On Feb 27
Usman Dan Fodio the great
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by OgunLaakaye: 4:47pm On Feb 27
Solid man!
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by onoja12: 4:48pm On Feb 27

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by tellwisdom: 4:48pm On Feb 27
Useless story..Am I supposed to know a dead man while I’m living??
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Kingpele(m): 4:48pm On Feb 27
Buharia mentor

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by prekumohtim(m): 4:51pm On Feb 27
Blue3k2:


https://www.dw.com/en/usman-dan-fodio-founder-of-the-sokoto-caliphate/a-51995841


Governor Wike and his chief comes to my mind whenever I see this name, Usman Dan Fodio,
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by ehemwhy(m): 4:52pm On Feb 27
If talk wetin dey my mind about this guy ehn....
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by nairaman66(m): 4:53pm On Feb 27
MetaPhysical:


Beast of no nation....Egbekegbe! grin

I love your response.

Na bad society!!! grin
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Professorcplus(m): 5:03pm On Feb 27
SUMMARY OF ACCOUNT
1. Every Empire has its rise which was invoked by a person or group of people. Eg. Babylonian, Roman, Ottoman and British Empire.

2. Empire is expanded through recruitment of followers and soldiers and costly wars.

3. Every conquered city will be imposed with the belief, culture, teaching and lifestyle of the conquerer.

4. Political decisions are made which sharpens the society and the ones that preceded it.

5. Lastly, must be fall of empire which is caused by external invader, recession, internal civil war, and regional ruler.

quote me if I'm wrong.

Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 5:05pm On Feb 27
myobjective:


I don't know why southerners with close to zero knowledge about core north demography always like to romanticize the Hausa and dehumanised the Fulani when both group are one and the same. An average Hausa from the north west will die protecting the interest of the Fulani. I'm not saying that is a good or bad thing but that is how they want to live.

They're childish busy bodies. The supposed victims hardly write about it funny enough. The fact is they're culturally similar and have similar political voting patterns.


onoja12:
you and i know everything you have written there is a lie,usman was not from any hausa speaking tribe,he migrated to sokoto ,where he was born has never been stated anywhere but he was of a fulani back ground,he preached islam and got close to the then emir of sokoto who trusted him hole heartedly,usman in return killed him for been foolish and took over his kingdom,he was backed by the middle east,he then went on to advance islam by war and he waged those wars all the way to kwara state.please let us stop attempting to distort history to suit ourselfish agenda,you are trying to fool the hausas that usman was one of them,usman not only killed all the hausa emirs he replaced them all with fulanis from his linage and thus that is why you have alot of fulani emirs and very few hausa,they need to get there throwns back for the north to progress and they should know islam is not there religion they are all tradtionalist.



Lol you clowns are mentally challenged. Instead watching video you're attacking strawmen arguments nobody made. Who claimed he hausa weirdo?

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