Maximus69:


LOVE is just NOT PARTIAL so it's love that moved him to make arrangements to SAVE the descendants of rebels!

So the descendants of rebels can't hurry him to do what he feels is just, in fact they should be thankful that he made preparation to rescue them. Any of them that's impatient regarding his decision can find a quick solution to his own PERSONAL problem!

You are a forked tongued serpent slithering about and spraying the odious perfume of lies, every comment of yours is a lie from hell.

Maximus69:


LOVE is just NOT PARTIAL so it's love that moved him to make arrangements to SAVE the descendants of rebels!

So the descendants of rebels can't hurry him to do what he feels is just, in fact they should be thankful that he made preparation to rescue them. Any of them that's impatient regarding his decision can find a quick solution to his own PERSONAL problem!

This is not love, this is vengeance.

MrPresident1:
Plaetton, not all Africans are Negroid.

Perhaps in present era , with thousands of years of crossbreeding in the Northern Parts.
But going back few thousand years, African is continent of Negroid race, and most importantly, the birthplace of human life on Earth.

MrPresident1:


But you are not a good person, this is why you have been placed under a delusion so you will never come to understanding, and if you do catch the faintest glimpse of light, your ego will never allow you to acknowledge it. God is the one who has you bound.

Indecipherable Babble

LordReed:


Yes, Jehovah, the great live porn watcher. Rape porn, incest porn, bestiality porn, child porn, etc. Your god is watching all of this happen real time. What a wonderful god you serve.

Plaetton is emphasising that your god is a no show when reality hits.

Look at this rotted brain calling someone mad. LMFAO!

Atheist result to insult when they run out of point.
You are in pains because of what you say doesnt exist?
The fact that you always talk about God is a proof that he exist.

Only a fool says there is no God.

LordReed:


This is not love, this is vengeance.

LOVE allows for correction.
So no matter what it will cost the defaulter LOVE will bear with him as long as he/she is ready to bear the full cost of his/her blunders!

But if he/she wants to skip or escape the consequences of his errors, LOVE will say "NO"!

MrPresident1:


You are a forked tongued serpent slithering about and spraying the odious perfume of lies, every comment of yours is a lie from hell.

Thank you Sir, God bless you!

plaetton:

Yeah, sure.
20 million had to die of AIDS so that God's work be made manifest.
I'm quite sure you would not want to be one those who die from The Coronavirus so that Your God's work be made manifest.

If He is stopping this and that. That automatically means He did not create or at least have no power over the effect of this and that.
God is not a superMAN, he is God. He is aware of whatever happens and if AIDS wipe out your whole family, it means He is aware and had allowed it to happen.
Now, you will say this is not Love.
God said; "Just as a potter can do anything with a clay. I, your creator can do anything with you my creation"...

Blabbermouth:

If He is stopping this and that. That automatically means He did not create or at least have no power over the effect of this and that.
God is not a superMAN, he is God. He is aware of whatever happens and if AIDS wipe out your whole family, it means He is aware and had allowed it to happen.
Now, you will say this is not Love.
God said; "Just as a potter can do anything with a clay. I, your creator can do anything with you my creation"...

Lol.
Ok.
So you do agree or by your logic , imply that religion , prayers and endless supplications are therefore redundant and superfluous ?

If the supposed creator of universe does whatever he likes with the universe whenever he likes, then the entire monstrosity built around him, praying to him, asking for this and for that, it's all been a waste of time and energy.

plaetton:

Lol.
Ok.
So you do agree or by your logic , imply that religion , prayers and endless supplications are therefore redundant and superfluous ?

If the supposed creator of universe does whatever he likes with the universe whenever he likes, then the entire monstrosity built around him, praying to him, asking for this and for that, it's all been a waste of time and energy.

What is peddled around about God are diluted Info's broadcast by people that know almost nothing about God.

1. Prayer does not mean ASKING ALL YOU NEED FROM AN HIGHER ENTITY.....

2. If you jump up, you must come down. No matter who you are, be it a PASTOR, ATHIEST, MONSTER OR WHATEVER. As long as you are defined by the physical realms, you are bounded by physical laws.

What I mean is; God is very principled. His ways, laws and wills are forever established. So, if God designed that; HARDWORK is what will YIELD SUCCESS.
Pray from today till tomorrow and be a very lazy person, almost nothing will happen (in a normal case).
God said; My people perish because they do not KNOW ME OR KNOW MY WAYS.
Even though they are His people, they still perished because they lack a tangible revelation about God over a certain thing.

Blabbermouth:

What is peddled around about God are diluted Info's broadcast by people that know almost nothing about God.

1. Prayer does not mean ASKING ALL YOU NEED FROM AN HIGHER ENTITY.....

2. If you jump up, you must come down. No matter who you are, be it a PASTOR, ATHIEST, MONSTER OR WHATEVER. As long as you are defined by the physical realms, you are bounded by physical laws.

What I mean is; God is very principled. His ways, laws and wills are forever established. So, if God designed that; HARDWORK is what will YIELD SUCCESS.
Pray from today till tomorrow and be a very lazy person, almost nothing will happen (in a normal case).
God said; My people perish because they do not KNOW ME OR KNOW MY WAYS.
Even though they are His people, they still perished because they lack a tangible revelation about God over a certain thing.

Again, you're indirectly reiterating that Religion as we know it, was founded on ignorance and constitutes a colossal waste of time and resources.
Agree ?

MISHIGAS!

plaetton:

We read in the bible that Jesus, supposed son of the Supposed creator of the universe ,

. GENESIS 1:26-31.

26. And God Said,

"Let us make Man
in Our Image,
after Our Likeness:
and let them have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over the Cattle,
and over all the Earth,
and over every creeping thing
that creepeth upon the Earth."

27. So God created Man
in His Own Image,
in The Image of God created He him;
male and female
created He them.
28. And God Blessed them,
and God Said unto them,

"Be fruitful, and multiply,
and replenish the Earth,
and subdue It:
and have Dominion
over the Fish of the Sea,
and over the Fowl of the Air,
and over every Living Thing
that moveth upon the Earth."

29. And God Said,

"Behold,
I have given you
every herb bearing seed,
which is upon
the Face of all the Earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit
of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.
30. And to every
Beast of the Earth,
and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing
that creepeth upon the Earth,
wherein there is life,
I have given
every green herb for meat:"

and it was so.
31. And God saw
every thing
that He had made,
and, behold,
it was Very Good.
And the evening
and the morning
were the sixth day.

GOD CREATED MANKIND FOR A SPECIFIED PURPOSE: TO CONTROL THE EARTH, AND EVERYTHING ON IT.

He gave us innate Spiritual Powers to enable us to do so.

. MARK 11:12-14, 20-26.

12 And on the morrow,
when they had come from Bethany,
he was hungry:

13 and seeing a fig tree
afar off having leaves,
he went to see if perhaps
he might find any thing thereon:
But when he came to it
he found nothing but leaves;
for the time for figs was not (yet).

14. And Jesus answered
and Said unto it,

“Let no man
eat fruit of thee hereafter
for ever.”

And His Disciples heard (it).
20 And in the morning,
as they passed by,
they saw the fig tree
dried up from the roots.
21. And Peter,
calling to remembrance
saith unto him,

“Master, behold,
the fig tree
which thou cursedst
is withered away.”
22. And Jesus answering,
Said unto them,

“Have Faith in God.
23. "For verily I Say unto you,

'THAT WHOSOEVER SHALL SAY
UNTO THIS MOUNTAIN,

"BE THOU REMOVED,
AND BE THOU CAST
INTO THE SEA;'

AND SHALL NOT
DOUBT IN HIS HEART,
BUT SHALL BELIEVE
THAT THOSE THINGS
WHICH HE SAITH
SHALL COME TO PASS;
HE SHALL HAVE
WHATSOEVER HE SAITH.'[/i

24. "Therefore I Say unto you,

[i]'WHAT THINGS SOEVER YE DESIRE,
WHEN YE PRAY,
BELIEVE THAT YE RECEIVE (THEM),
AND YE SHALL HAVE (THEM).'

25. "And when ye stand praying,
forgive, if ye have aught against any,
that your Father also
which is in Heaven
may forgive you your trespasses.
26. "But if ye do not forgive,
neither will your Father
Which is in Heaven
forgive your trespasses.”

THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT THOSE WHO DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES TO BE BETTER THAN THE BEASTS ACQUIRE AS MANY AS TEN POWERS TO IMPLEMENT DOMINION OVER THE EARTH AND ITS UNDISCIPLINED INHABITANTS.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

THESE POWERS DO NOT REQUIRE THAT ONE WORSHIP GOD TO MANIFEST- BUT WORSHIPPERS OF GOD HAVE HIS COOPERATION AND PROTECTION AGAINST HOSTILE BEINGS, WHO WANT TO TAKE THEM AWAY FROM US.

. MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a sign from thee."

39. But he answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."

THERE ARE TWO KINDS OF LIVING BEINGS: INORGANIC AND ORGANIC.

The INORGANIC exists as Spirit Entities without Physical Bodies. You should be able to figure out what being ORGANIC means.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF SPIRIT ENTITIES: MORTAL AND IMMORTAL.

Even a person of low intelligence, such as yourself, should be able to understand what that means.

MORTALITY and lMMORTALITY have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with possession of ORGANICS, or not.

At birth, every living creature is given a feed of a train of packets of Spiritual Energy that impact upon the Soul Body on a specific spot in order to enter it.

That of Humans is positioned about three finger-widths beneath the navel.

This Spiritual Energy makes living things alive. It is possible to meet all of one's needs through efficient reception and use of this energy. Those who can do that can become PURELY INORGANIC. Those who can't need MEST Bodies to protect themselves against the ravaging Forces of the Spiritual Realm, like an EXOSKELETON, or SHELL.

One of the "cool" things about Inorganic Beings, is that they can MANIFEST a Matter/Energy/Space/Time Body at will, and DEMATERIALIZE it, when they no longer need it.

The Mortal Spirit Beings are damaged by the continual impact of the Packets of Life that are conveyed into them their whole life, and eventually split open, and disgorge their contents- which spells immediate Death.

There is one way to prevent this: by closing one's Soul Body "mouth" that receives the free Spiritual Energy allotment from through the Heavens.

This causes the problem of where to get more Spiritual Energy to stay alive.

The creatures called "DEVILS" solved that problem, by STEALING and SCAVENGING Life Energy from SINNERS. If Sin and Death facilitate the ability of the Devils to siphon Life Energy, then it follows that they themselves would be extremely vulnerable to the same process being used against THEM.

Therefore, not even their ardent worshippers knew that that was what they had to do, in order to prolong their MORTAL existence.

.    LUKE 10:16-24.

16. "He that heareth you
heareth me;
and he that despiseth you
despiseth me;
and he that despiseth me
despiseth Him
that sent me."

17. And the seventy returned
again with joy,
saying,

"Lord, even the Devils
are subject unto us
through thy Name."

18. And he Said unto them,

"I beheld Satan as lightning
fall from Heaven.
19. "Behold,
I give unto you Power
to tread on Serpents
and Scorpions,
and over all
the Power of the Enemy:
and nothing shall
by any means hurt you."
20. "Notwithstanding
in this rejoice not,
 that the spirits are subject
unto you;
but rather rejoice,
because your Names
are written in Heaven."

21. In that Hour
Jesus rejoiced in spirit,
and Said,

"I thank Thee,
O Father,
Lord of Heaven and Earth,
that thou hast hid these things
from the wise and prudent,
and hast revealed them
unto babes:
even so, Father;
for so it seemed Good
in Thy Sight.
22. "All things are
delivered to me
of my Father:
and no man knoweth
who The Son is,
but The Father;
and Who The Father is,
but The Son,
and he to whom The Son
will reveal him."

23. And he turned him
unto his Disciples,
and Said privately,

"Blessed are the eyes
which see The Things
that ye see:

24. "For I Tell you,

'THAT MANY
PROPHETS
AND KINGS
HAVE DESIRED TO SEE
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE SEE,
AND HAVE NOT
SEEN THEM;
AND TO HEAR
THOSE THINGS
WHICH YE HEAR,
AND HAVE NOT
HEARD THEM.' "

plaetton:

came to Earth some 2000yrs ago, walked among humans and cured some diseases, many of them epidemic diseases like Leprosy, Polio, etc. Though He supposedly cured a few people of their personal ailments, the son of God, with the sum of all knowledge in the universe, failed or should we say, forgot to eradicate those diseases permanently.

[img]YOU ARE MERELY A FOOL TOO STUPID TO DO HIS HOMEWORK, AND RESEARCH THE GOD HE IS BLASPHEMING FIRST.[/img]

YAHWEH-SHAMAH: The LORD is THERE for US.
YAHWEH-SHALOM: The LORD is OUR PEACE.
YAHWEH-RA-AH: The LORD is OUR SHEPHERD.
YAHWEH-NISSI: The LORD is OUR PROVIDER.
YAHWEH-YIREH: The LORD is OUR BANNER.
YAHWEH-TSIDKENU: The LORD is OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
YAHWEH-RAPHA: The LORD is OUR HEALER.

The last-mentioned Attribute is of particular interest. Do you begin to understand your IDIOCY, now?

. EXODUS 15:22-26.

22. So Moses brought Israel
from the Red sea,
and they went out
into the wilderness of Shur;
and they went three days
in the wilderness,
and found no water.
23. And when they came to Marah,
they could
not drink of the waters of Marah,
for they were bitter:
therefore the name of it
was called Marah.
24. And the people murmured
against Moses,
saying,

"What shall we drink?"

And he cried unto The LORD;
and The LORD shewed him a tree,
which when he had cast
into the waters,
the waters were made sweet:
there He made for them a Statute
and an Ordinance,
and there He proved them,
25. And Said,

"If thou wilt diligently
hearken to
The Voice of
The LORD thy God,
and wilt do that
which is Right in His Sight,
and wilt give ear
to His Commandments,
and keep all His Statutes,
I will put none of these Diseases
upon thee,
which I have brought
upon the Egyptians:
for I am the LORD
that Healeth thee."

LORD YESHUA CAME TO MANIFEST THE LAWFUL ATTRIBUTES OF GOD ON EARTH, BEFORE GOD'S COVENANT PEOPLE ALONE.


. DEUTERONOMY 18:15-22.

15. The LORD thy God will
raise up unto thee
a Prophet from
the midst of thee,
of thy Brethren,
like unto Me;
unto him ye shall hearken;
16. According to all
that thou desiredst
of The LORD thy God
in Horeb in
the Day of the Assembly,
saying,

"LET ME NOT HEAR AGAIN
THE VOICE OF THE LORD MY GOD,
NEITHER LET ME SEE
THIS GREAT FIRE ANY MORE,
THAT I DIE NOT."

17. And The LORD Said unto me,

"THEY HAVE WELL SPOKEN
THAT WHICH THEY HAVE SPOKEN.
18. "I WILL RAISE THEM UP A PROPHET
FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN,
LIKE UNTO THEE,
AND WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH;
AND HE SHALL SPEAK UNTO THEM
ALL THAT I SHALL COMMAND HIM.
19. "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS,
THAT WHOSOEVER
WILL NOT HEARKEN
UNTO MY WORDS
WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK
IN MY NAME,
I WILL REQUIRE IT OF HIM.”

20. But the prophet,
which shall presume
to speak a word in My Name,
which I have not
commanded him to speak,
or that shall speak
in the name of other gods,
even that prophet shall die.
21. "And if thou say in thine heart,

'HOW SHALL WE
KNOW THE WORD
WHICH THE LORD
HATH NOT SPOKEN?'

22. When a prophet speaketh
in The Name of The LORD,
if the thing follow not,
nor come to pass,
that is the thing which
The LORD hath not Spoken,
but the prophet hath
spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him.

. LUKE 4:14-32.

14. And Jesus returned
in the Power of The Spirit into Galilee:
and there went out a fame of him
through all the region round about.
15. And he taught
in their Synagogues,
being glorified of all.
16. And he came to Nazareth,
where he had been brought up:
and, as his custom was,
he went into the Synagogue
on the Sabbath Day,
and stood up for to read.
17. And there was delivered unto him
The Book of the Prophet Esaias.
And when he had opened the Book,
he found the place
where it was written,

18. "THE SPIRIT
OF THE LORD
IS UPON ME,
BECAUSE HE HATH
ANOINTED ME
TO PREACH THE GOSPEL
TO THE POOR;
HE HATH SENT ME
TO HEAL THE BROKENHEARTED,
TO PREACH DELIVERANCE
TO THE CAPTIVES,
AND RECOVERY OF SIGHT
TO THE BLIND,
TO SET AT LIBERTY
THEM THAT ARE BRUISED,
19. "TO PREACH
THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR
OF THE LORD."

20. And he closed the Book,
and he gave it again to the minister,
and sat down.
And the eyes of all them
that were in the synagogue
were fastened on him.
21. And he began to Say
unto them,

"This Day is this Scripture
fulfilled in your ears."

22. And all bare him witness,
and wondered at
the gracious words
which proceeded out
of his mouth.
And they said,

"Is not this Joseph's son?"

23. And he Said
unto them,

"Ye will surely
say unto me
this Proverb,

'PHYSICIAN,
HEAL THYSELF:
WHATSOEVER WE HAVE
HEARD DONE IN CAPERNAUM,
DO HERE IN THY COUNTRY.' "

24. And he said,

"Verily I Say unto you,

'NO PROPHET IS ACCEPTED
IN HIS OWN COUNTRY.' "

25. "But I tell you of a Truth,

'MANY WIDOWS
WERE IN ISRAEL
IN THE DAYS OF ELIAS,
WHEN THE HEAVEN
WAS SHUT UP THREE YEARS
AND SIX MONTHS,
WHEN GREAT FAMINE
WAS THROUGHOUT
ALL THE LAND;
26. 'BUT UNTO NONE OF THEM
WAS ELIAS SENT,
SAVE UNTO SAREPTA,
A CITY OF SIDON,
UNTO A WOMAN
THAT WAS A WIDOW.
27. 'AND MANY LEPERS
WERE IN ISRAEL
IN THE TIME OF
ELISEUS THE PROPHET;
AND NONE OF THEM
WAS CLEANSED,
SAVING NAAMAN
THE SYRIAN.' "

28. And all they in the Synagogue,
when they heard
these things,
were filled with wrath,
29. And rose up,
and thrust him
out of the city,
and led him
unto the brow of the hill
whereon their city was built,
that they might cast him
down headlong.
30. But he passing
through the midst of them
went his way,
31. And came down
to Capernaum,
a city of Galilee,
and taught them on the Sabbath Days.
32. And they were astonished
at his Doctrine:
for his Word was with Power.

. LUKE 7:19-23.

19. And John calling unto him
two of his Disciples
sent them to Jesus,
saying,

"ART THOU
HE THAT SHOULD COME?
OR LOOK WE
FOR ANOTHER?"

20. When the men
were come unto him,
they said,

"John Baptist hath
sent us unto thee,
saying,

'ART THOU
HE THAT SHOULD COME?
OR LOOK WE
FOR ANOTHER?' "

21. And in that same hour
he cured many
of their Infirmities and Plagues,
and of Evil Spirits;
and unto many that were blind
he gave sight.
22. Then Jesus answering
Said unto them,

"Go your way,
and tell John what things
ye have seen and heard;
how that the Blind See,
the Lame Walk,
the Lepers are Cleansed,
the Deaf Hear,
the Dead are Raised,
to the Poor The Gospel is preached.
23. "And Blessed is he,
whosoever shall not be
offended in me."

LORD YESHUA'S MIRACLE-WORKING WAS NOT FOR [b]"FUN," NOR FOR "SHOWING-OFF," AND DEFINITELY NOT FOR "ENTERTAINMENT," BUT BECAUSE GOD HAD SENT HIM, AND WAS WITH HIM.[/b]

LORD YESHUA was DEMONSTRATING to Israel, WHAT LIFE IS LIKE, WHEN GOD RULES OVER YOU, AND YOU SERVE HIM.

Why would God allow HIS OWN PEOPLE to be SICK, MAIMED, or DEAD- when a MERE MODICUM of His Power could HEAL them, and keep them ALIVE- in VIBRANT HEALTH, at that?

plaetton:

After Jesus supposedly left the Earth , nothing changed in terms how humanity dealt with diseases and epidemics. Nothing changed at all.

YOUR STUPIDITY IS IN DIRECT PROPORTION TO YOUR WICKEDNESS- WHY SHOULD PEOPLE WHO DID NOT RECEIVE LORD YESHUA EXPERIENCE ANY DIFFERENCE?

[(1 of 3) To be Concluded.]

plaetton:

Again, you're indirectly reiterating that Religion as we know it, was founded on ignorance and constitutes a colossal waste of time and resources.
Agree ?

Religion? I know nothing about it.
I am a Christian. I am like-Christ.

plaetton:

Again, you're indirectly reiterating that Religion as we know it, was founded on ignorance and constitutes a colossal waste of time and resources.
Agree ?

Be true to yourself.
Now imagine a state or a universe where Love your neighbour as yourself is strictly observed and adhered to.

LordReed:


You make your god sound like a wuss. So the god that made the universe will remove sickness and disease then someone else will bring it back? Like what kind of stupid weak god is that?

So maybe this God doesn't even have to do anything about the disease if it doesn't affect his own eternal purposes. Maybe He can, but doesn't have to. Maybe He will only on His terms not on ours which may be based on an inferior logic. Maybe if you could understand all of His logic, it wouldn't be superior to yours. Surely though, whatever maybe the case, we cannot deny your existence and capacity to reason and so surely it must have come from a source having such a capacity, that's whether or not you're able to justify his moves with your logic. Face it bro, at the end of all logic, there is a God.

RealMrNigerD:

So maybe this God doesn't even have to do anything about the disease if it doesn't affect his own eternal purposes. Maybe He can, but doesn't have to. Maybe He will only on His terms not on ours which may be based on an inferior logic. Maybe if you could understand all of His logic, it wouldn't be superior to yours. Surely though, whatever maybe the case, we cannot deny your existence and capacity to reason and so surely it must have come from a source having such a capacity, that's whether or not you're able to justify his moves with your logic. Face it bro, at the end of all logic, there is a God.

There is no logic that can tell me that a being that says it loves, leaves humans to suffer for millenia that is justified in such action. That my friend is not logic. Besides pointing out a god as the root of logic is funny since you don't believe the god is constrained by it.

solite3:
Atheist result to insult when they run out of point.
You are in pains because of what you say doesnt exist?
The fact that you always talk about God is a proof that he exist.

Only a fool says there is no God.

Bwahahahaha! Are you offended that I called your god a porn watcher? LoL! But he is isn't he, you believe he is omnipresent which means he is present during all forms of sex acts and more so those that are causing harm because he does nothing but watch.

The fact that I talk about superman and batman means shit, same as your god. My pleasure in talking about fictional characters means nothing to their existence.

Only a dunce says such things.

Maximus69:


LOVE allows for correction.
So no matter what it will cost the defaulter LOVE will bear with him as long as he/she is ready to bear the full cost of his/her blunders!

But if he/she wants to skip or escape the consequences of his errors, LOVE will say "NO"!

Oga this is not by any stretch of the imagination a correction. Do you know how many generations of humans have lived and died all in pain and suffering? Well, I think the empathy required is beyond you since you follow a god idea that is bereft of empathy.

solite3:
Atheist result to insult when they run out of point.
You are in pains because of what you say doesnt exist?
The fact that you always talk about God is a proof that he exist.

Only a fool says there is no God.

Only a fool says there is a god

MJBOLT:

that solite guy must be re.tar.ded as fvck,so talking about something means it's exists i laughed so hard my ribs nearly cracked

Mental gymnastics gold, bend over backwards and stick your head in your arse category.

a fool says there is god but cannot prove it

Bacteriologist:

Only a fool says there is a god

MJBOLT:

a fool says there is god but cannot prove it

Rightly so.

LordReed:


Oga this is not by any stretch of the imagination a correction. Do you know how many generations of humans have lived and died all in pain and suffering? Well, I think the empathy required is beyond you since you follow a god idea that is bereft of empathy.

The generations must suffer the consequences of the error of their first parents, it will serve as an EVERLASTING REMINDER after God finally remove the curse! Revelations 14:11-12

As for DEATH, it's just like a sleeping pill for his friends {John 11:11-14} because he can bring them back at the snap of his fingers {John 11:43-44} So to him and his faithful servants DEATH is what will vanish soon! Isaiah 25:8

If you don't believe this it's OK, go for a better and faster solution that's available, we are his friends and we trust (believe) in his discretion! Hebrew 11:6

Maximus69:


The generations must suffer the consequences of the error of their first parents, it will serve as an EVERLASTING REMINDER after God finally remove the curse! Revelations 14:11-12

As for DEATH, it's just like a sleeping pill for his friends {John 11:11-14} because he can bring them back at the snap of his fingers {John 11:43-44} So to him and his faithful servants DEATH is what will vanish soon! Isaiah 25:8

If you don't believe this it's OK, go for a better and faster solution that's available, we are his friends and we trust (believe) in his discretion! Hebrew 11:6

When I said you lack empathy it was not a joke and here you are displaying that lack very well.

CAPSLOCKED:


THOROUGH PANEL BEATING.

atheists wish God does not exist.

LordReed:


There is no logic that can tell me that a being that says it loves, leaves humans to suffer for millenia that is justified in such action. That my friend is not logic. Besides pointing out a god as the root of logic is funny since you don't believe the god is constrained by it.

What you're not seeing is you can't take your logic as absolute. First off, all your logic is totally dependent. It's dependent on realities you met in a universe that existed before us. All your logic is formed from this empirical evidence. Second, your logic expands with the expansion of your experience in this universe. That's why science is still growing. The unexplored universe is billions of times larger than the explored universe. That means we should accept what we've learnt today and be open to learning more tomorrow. We cannot explore space for instance, make new discoveries that are different from our current syllabus and reject what we see in space for our current logic, else our logic and science in general will not grow. And it is obvious with all our exploits in science, that we are unable to, with current logic develop a fully accurate model of the universe. We still humbly explore to learn.
In view of this, we can't say if this God doesn't fit our logic, He doesn't exist. We can only say so if there's just no proof of His existence.
So back to square one, in all our inability to fit God into our logic, more important is is there proof of his existence. You and I existing, reasoning and communicating are the proof that there is a God who has all these abilities and even more important is that his abilities supercede ours because we never planned to have these privileges, we just met ourselves with them. You didn't plan to exist by your logic, yet you do. You didn't plan to have cognitive abilities, yet you do.
It's most unscientific to doubt the existence of a God. Almost ALL the founders of modern science knew there was, from Newton, to Hertz to Maxwell, Faraday, Tesla, even down to Einstein. We just have no single basis for atheism.

RealMrNigerD:


What you're not seeing is you can't take your logic as absolute. First off, all your logic is totally dependent. It's dependent on realities you met in a universe that existed before us. All your logic is formed from this empirical evidence. Second, your logic expands with the expansion of your experience in this universe. That's why science is still growing. The unexplored universe is billions of times larger than the explored universe. That means we should accept what we've learnt today and be open to learning more tomorrow. We cannot explore space for instance, make new discoveries that are different from our current syllabus and reject what we see in space for our current logic, else our logic and science in general will not grow. And it is obvious with all our exploits in science, that we are unable to, with current logic develop a fully accurate model of the universe. We still humbly explore to learn.
In view of this, we can't say if this God doesn't fit our logic, He doesn't exist. We can only say so if there's just no proof of His existence.
So back to square one, in all our inability to fit God into our logic, more important is is there proof of his existence. You and I existing, reasoning and communicating are the proof that there is a God who has all these abilities and even more important is that his abilities supercede ours because we never planned to have these privileges, we just met ourselves with them. You didn't plan to exist by your logic, yet you do. You didn't plan to have cognitive abilities, yet you do.
It's most unscientific to doubt the existence of a God. Almost ALL the founders of modern science knew there was, from Newton, to Hertz to Maxwell, Faraday, Tesla, even down to Einstein. We just have no single basis for atheism.

You seem to be making illogical leaps. First you say there is much we don't know so we can't fit god into logic then you turn around and say our ability to reason is proof of god. That makes no sense. If god is able to be described by logic then there is no need to appeal to ignorance which is what you did in the first part . Then you over turn logic with a leap of faith and conjecture that our ability to reason is proof of the god you say cannot be described by logic?

It is most unscientific to conjecture a god without evidence. You don't get to reject something then call it evidence. You reject our logic as incomplete then turn around to call it evidence for god, that is not by any stretch of the imagination the way science works. Nobody gives a rats arse if Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris wake up today and declare they believe in god. They must meet the burden of proof to show/demonstrate the existence of god. Appeals to authority carry no weight here.

solite3:
atheists wish God does not exist.

We wish you could prove your god exists.

LordReed:


We wish you could prove your god exists.

the existence of man is a proof that there is God just as the existence of a robot is a proof that there is a designer.